Wardevil -PlayStation3 exclusive-

[AnnieMouse60]

Studio closure announced today. Sad for all the guys losing their jobs because of chronically bad management.

Funny you mentioning Naughty Dog, I used to work with Rich LeMarchand, their head of design. I like the way they work.

[Kaddasi]

@AnnieMouse60 Well Very sad as you said, yet there must be something that made them to close the company as well as not being financially supported. who knows?

[AnnieMouse60]

@Kaddasi Well several years of massively incompetent management didn't help. The company was bought for a _lot_ of money in 2007, so it shouldn't have been shortage of cash, unless that never actually reached the studio.

[Kaddasi]

@AnnieMouse60 Well who knows I tried to find out about it, yet there is no avoidance of what exactly is happening.

[dotCody]

Was originally going to be released for "Xbox 2"

Changed to a PS3 exclusive in early 2009

Changed to Mutli-platform for PS3 and Xbox 360 in late 2009

Canceled in October 2010

Uncanceled in November 2010 and supposedly set for a "late 2011" release

Yeah, this is shaping up to be a great game [/sarcasm]

[dotCody]

@dotCody

Oh, I forgot to include the name change. It's now called "Project Kane"

[Kaddasi]

@dotCody Well no one exactly knows what's happing with the company it self, but some time I imagine this game developed by Naughty Dog, I'm sure It will be amazing to see all of that running by their engine. Let me know what you think. Cheer mate !

[Sleeky33]

@Kaddasi Not trying to be mean or anything but where did you get Naughty Dog from? there working on uncharted 3

[Kaddasi]

@Sleeky33 I know Naughty Dog working in Uncharted 3, but I was imagining if WarDevil were developed by ND, we would be playing it by now, ND is one of the best games developers for PS3. 

[Sleeky33]

@Kaddasi oh alright. yah I agree ND is my favorite developer. They actually just released the uncharted 3 multiplayer trailer. You should look it up here on youtube cuz it looks really amazing and I also saw the uncharted 3 multiplayer interview when they interviewed one of the nd members and so far its going to be amazing. there adding so much stuff to it its mind blowing.

[Kaddasi]

@Kaddasi Yup looked at last night. See that's what I'm talking about, ND are amazing as well as a great role model for all Games developers. can't wait to see the single player, and what UN3 has to offer.

[Darthdevel]

its not canceled you bobs !

[Defalto]

5 years... What the hell...

[wILLmatic7]

Sucks to work on a project for so long only to have it canceled. Having said that, the art direction and character design in this game is mediocre, at best.

[Rogerdof]

epic fail

[obefiend]

lol canceled!

[Dawn3R]

canceled

[Stubot2]

@Dawn3R That's right. I just heard the news. It's been canceled after 5 years in development.

[Raditz3666]

@Stubot2 thats so bad :S 5 years... thats some time wasted : \

[tomaccogoats]

LOL FAIL

[phi39582]

No more....just reported that the studio developing Wrdevil was shut down today......

[sterling7]

It's undeniably impressive technology; it looks as though we're at long last coming to the point where feats of technical wizardry can make the real-time look approachable to the pre-rendered. This may be a side benefit of keeping the current generation's hardware around a little longer. "Edge" magazine implied that the original tech was engineered around the _first_ gen x-box, believe it or not. Now the question is: can they make a *game* around it?

[Kaddasi]

Well Said, I have no idea but I bet the can, since by now they have seen for sure Uncharted 2.

I wonder when this game will see the light?

[murosteel]

@Kaddasi let's see here... christmas of 2011 >_>

[Vleesball]

id tech 5 is still better .. this is obviously not real time.

atleast i know that the rage trailers are real time since ive seen the 50 minute demo.

[jordancayco]

whats this? a console version of crysis boasting graphical prowess in exchange for a good gameplay?

[BFTiktaalik]

I would say Crysis boasted graphical prowess in exchange for good gameplay :p

[Corey91666]

yeah xD lets see what wardevil brings

[ShadowMoses12]

Says a nub who hasn't played the game.

[Topshotta187]

if its not prerendered.. I can dig it.

[kelvinoalbino]

oops sorry for thumbing you down, I wanted to press on reply. :O

Is not prerendered, 1080p, 60fps - Amazing.

[chobe156]

crappy pre rendered trailer.

[aznwu123]

@bobjimtheawesome

wait......so you're saying its going to be on both consoles...but x360 can't run 1080p as far as i know. But this does look interesting, will be on my lookout list of games to get.

[BROOKIE44529]

definately on both consoles, it's confirmed. they found a way to make the 360 work at 1080. don't have a clue how...

[apple855]

no buddy ...on 360 its 720p ...that is as high as it goes for the 360 ...

[BROOKIE44529]

nope, sorry, but they have found a way. its official. i read it in an official magazine. it's called edge, if you wanna look it up.

[AnnieMouse60]

Sorry to break the news, (and I really mean that, I know people working there), but the demo that edge saw was years old, and pretty much fake.

[Jacper60]

newthec graphics

[Nesoja]

weird looking bastards arent they

[kelvinoalbino]

They are O_O

[dunklersuperheld]

instead of commenting about the 360 or ps3 exclusives... Check this game out. Looks awesome

[MaynardTheWise]

WarDEvil will come to Xbox 360!!! Watch the site of Digi-Guys!

[Kaddasi]

that's not true , and ncorrect info, I think you need to warea per of glasses, WarDevil is a game that was designed as Blu Ray HD movie & a videogame.

That what the site said,,,,

[Cleansation515]

No you are wrong. Digi guys have announced that it's coming for 360 too. if this shit ever gets released that is.

[Kaddasi]

How did you know that?

Do you have connection with them to know their latest news?

Just Prove it if you are right.

In their web site they claim that game is designed as Blu Ray HD movie & a videogame.

[Cleansation515]

I cant link on youtube. Search for wardevil on 360 on google and find ign/gamespot/ other gaming sites that have been in contact with them.

Dont listen to all the pr bullshit (only possible on *insert random console*).

[Kaddasi]

With respect to what you've stated, I know what those sites claimed that info, but still we haven't heard any of that info from Digi Guys. Has any one heard any thing?

All I can say it's a Speculation

and in english, speculation means a message expressing an opinion based on incomplete evidence.

[Cleansation515]

Not only does all gaming sites state it but digi guys are looking for people with 360 experience.

Game looks like shit anyway and all the investors money have been wasted with incompetent staff

[AnnieMouse60]

Incompetent staff. Yeah, one in particular, unfortunately he's the boss.

[Cleansation515]

Haha. Is he on vacation again for the investors money ? :-p

[Kaddasi]

Well , you know, if this game comes to both consoles, then good for the both consoles owners, I have no Idea why this game takes for ever to see the light.

[ratchetsippi]

if that dont look good then nothing next gen will either

[bobjimtheawesome]

According to Tech2 from TGS 09 it will be on both consoles.

Also the Digi-Guys are boasting WarDevil as a title that will deliver 1080p visuals running at a smooth 60FPS.

[dunklersuperheld]

no you're wrong. This was actually planned to be exclusive on the 360, but changed it to ps3 cause it has better handling properties

[AnnieMouse60]

Got a specific link for that?

[Kaddasi]

As Simple as it's, just visit their web site.

[nanoradio]

any word on what the gameplay is about? specifically which genre it is?

[delarge84]

Action-adventure.

[chisox100]

whens this come out?

[Kaddasi]

Untill now no one knows when this game will see the light.

if this game came to life, PS3's owners would live happyly ever after.

[chisox100]

could it have been cancled?

[AnnieMouse60]

No sign of it at E3.

[delarge84]

they showed it on the montage. they can't show all the games they have for ps3 on that press conference.

[delarge84]

this game was showed on the montage on sony's press conference.

[AnnieMouse60]

I must have blinked and missed that. Any new footage or the same old stuff? Anyhow that proves nothing about the state of the project except that Sony still think it's going.

I was really looking for something from Ignition about it.. If it's coming out this year or early next year it would have had more of a fanfare from the publishers. UTV (The investors) thought it was going to be out last year.

The game I'm currently working on is out 2010 and we got 1/3 of Segas stand to ourselves.

[xkillaz18x]

hahaha...this game "looks" kool..i wonder what your character will be?

[phinch1]

This game looks really good, is this a ps3 exclusive or multiplatform? i hope its exclusive please someone get back to me on that

[thrashermario]

exclusive for the trey=ps3 ftw

[drewid88]

I see no game.

[battlestarvfx]

because there isn't one.

[AnnieMouse60]

True.  I remember these sort of arguments all the way back to c64 vs Spectrum. Didn't make any difference to the game quality.

[08CJ09]

stop tying to write clever comments.

[ihamoitc2005]

1) They've been talking about this game for ages and we still haven't seen any gameplay. Wondering if this is real or not.

2) For all you fanboys arguing about things you don't understand, here's the reality. The PS3 is far more powerful than the 360. It can push far more polygons (forget the garbage fed to you by Major Nelson), better textures, better physics, and better AI.

[Croga15]

im not a fanboy and if was goin to be one id be a ps3 fanboy but your wrong.....really wrong

[Kaddasi]

Yes I agree with (ihamoitc2005)

many people say Xbox360 is better, Xbox360 is more like a normal PC, which easy to develop a game for, like Gears Of War 2 it was net big push in the graphic wise but more technical wise in the term of U3 engine, Though the improvement of the engine couldn't push the hardware graphically.

PlayStation 3's Cell CPU achieves 204 GFLOPS

IBM PowerPC triple-core 'Xenon' CPU:115 Gflops

Killzone 2 was a good example of the PS3 power horse.

[AnnieMouse60]

The two systems are very similar, both have good and bad points. For instance the cell should be faster, but too much of it's time is spent compensating for the poor RSX performance, especially the low fill rate. This shows up with possible frame-outs during big particle events.

As for better textures, that 10mb difference is bigger than it sounds because texture compression on the ps3 is less efficient.

Like I said the PS3 should have been far in front, but they're actually very similar.

[mwm433]

and you hav less brain then i thought

[AnnieMouse60]

I'm a games developer and I have development kits for both sat on my desk, and I at least I have enough brain to spell correctly.

I also know that games are about the game , and shouldn't be reduced to a hardware-spec cock waving contest.

[mwm433]

i always write like that and if you can't understand what i just meant then your fucking 12 years old and fucking lying about the development tools.

[AnnieMouse60]

I understood what you meant, and it's "You're" not "your" because it's a contraction of "you are".

[kermitdfrogz]

Annie, are you serious? The Cell doesn't 'compensate' for the RSX at all; when people make crap ports it's because they're overtaxing the RSX instead of dividing the workload up into it's component parts; and that's because they're usually porting the games FROM the 360 and are too lazy to optimize it for Cell/RSX operation. RSX is familiar to programmers, the Cell is not; Although both can run a game, they were put together so the cell can do the math and the rsx can focus on graphics.

[AnnieMouse60]

We lead on the PS3, basically if something works on the PS3 then it'll work on the 360. However having said that cross platform doesn't really work in a "take A and port to B" fashion anymore. The bulk of the code is platform agnostic.

Though you're right, if your platform specific code is badly written then you deserve all you get.

The bottom line is Sony should have made a better choice, the RSX is the bottleneck in the system.

[Zoza15]

For what gamecompany are you working for?, Any Projects for Ps3 in development?...

[iscootscoot]

bullcrap. mgs4 wold be ruined if it was 360

[AnnieMouse60]

Well I guess you're going to get the chance to find out seeing as the next MGS will be cross platform.

[somesoup94]

Yes, and kojima wont even be working on it, he thinks putting it on 360 is a disgrace

[AnnieMouse60]

But not so much of a disgrace that he wouldn't take the cash.

It's HIS studio, it's HIS choice unless he's personally posted somewhere about changing his mind.

[somesoup94]

Sure its his studio, but its not him working on it, he is working on Peacwalker for PSP

[AnnieMouse60]

Yes. But if he was _really_ disgusted he could have said no to the deal.

[somesoup94]

You misunderstood, Hideo is a highly aclaimed develeoper for Konami, Hideo has his on Studio called Kojima studios, Konami made the decision to port it to the 360. Kojima studios is fairly large, and most of it will be working on MGS Rising, but Hideo will be working on Peacewalker only. basicallyy i was trying to say that Hideo doesnt make the major decisions its Konami

[AnnieMouse60]

Well sure, but he still retains copyright I would think, unless it's a really wierd contract they're on.

He still could have blocked the deal if he'd really wanted to.

[gtafan110010]

i think this game could be a good ps3 exclusive, no it not for 360

[DivineroseS01]

this trailer looks interesting...

[hellboy666kiLLer]

power of the ps3, xbox isnt capable  of these graphics

[CrazyDoodo]

the difference between graphics is that xbox is slightly better, BUT ps3 has more processing

this means

xbox = slightly better enemies

ps3 = more and smarter enemies

and dont argue because i aint a fanboy, and ive studied both systems

[CrazyDoodo]

i think ur just being a fanboy

if you knew anything about the architecture of either systems and the processing outputs yuo would understand, i guess not

[CrazyDoodo]

ps3=more of a normal computer

360= more custom hardware (everything goes to GPU not CPU like the ps3, hence it is more specialized, which is why it can keep up with the ps3

killzone, yes has better graphics but its a game that is much newer, and not based on a several year old engine ie unreal, if u recall anything from the old consoles graphics got much better as games continued to come out

[CrazyDoodo]

ie sons of liberty had much better graphics than gta3, and so on, the newer the game the better, and if they could have gotten more out of it why didnt they? why is there no co-op for example? also while the graphics are great the effects seems very lacking - see flamethrower...not the best around

[CrazyDoodo]

xbox is not maxed out, also the development only concerns CPU so graphics arent really affected much at all, and if you didnt know power wise the GPU's in both systems are almost identical

[acefadi6969]

gears 2.. is the best xbox will see

[CrazyDoodo]

cool fanboy you keep thinking that

[Life4Murda]

see red faction- guerrilla

[acefadi6969]

ok if your so fucking smart go look at gears 1 and gears 2 and look at resistence 1 and resistence 2 what the fuck do you see?

[CrazyDoodo]

well lets see finished gears 1 and resistance both at least 3 times...graphics i would say the same, havent hit res 2 yet, but gears 2 is a huge improvement over 1, how ever at the end of the day i dont care about graphics, i dont care about the slightly better textures or shadows of a ps3, or the slightly better models of the 360...i would still rather have starcraft over gears or resistance, if you think everything is about graphics you have alot to learn

[rohangupta300497]

sorry, i was meant to give you thumbs up, but accidently hit thumbs down instead.

[Croga15]

i gave you a thumbs down on purpose;)

[CrazyDoodo]

hmm...thx..i guess?

[Croga15]

Why would you say thanks to that. I was just saying you were wrong to say ps3 is way more pwerful. Ps3 has a better processor i.e it can handle more at once. But the 360 has better ram. Ps3 works out slightly more powerful in the long run and blu-ray helps too

[CrazyDoodo]

didnt say it was way more powerful, and the difference in RAM is only 10mb, ps3 works out better in the long run simply because the CPU is more powerful, and yeah the blu-rya does help

[AnnieMouse60]

Yeah, but the ps3 has that painfully slow cell memory read rate, and the RSX is a bit grim on the poly setup, which does make things more difficult.

A lot depends on the particulars of the engine as well. That's got a huge effect on the quality and frame rate between the two versions of the same game.

[CrazyDoodo]

yeah pretty much..yeah

and i would only assume that an engine built for one console wont work as well on another console

[AnnieMouse60]

These days most engines are cross-platform, with specific low-level sections written for each platform.

If a game is an exclusive that doesn't automatically mean it's written on a platform specific engine. It's a very high risk strategy for a developer these days, the cost of building a game is so high that a duff one can kill a company in one stroke. You spread the risk by reusing as much of the engine as possible between games and platforms.

[AnnieMouse60]

That's one of the reasons I'm sceptical about this "dropped 360 to concentrate on one platform" story. It doesn't make business sense.

There's some other reason they're not telling.

[CrazyDoodo]

better deals with the company's and so on, they have lots of deals going on and someone just looked better

and its not they aint telling, its just no one is looking

and yeah engines are made to be re used like the unreal engine and so on

how ever lots of games are made for only one console, like killzone and stuff or mgs...that stuff aint getting ported any time soon...or ever for that matter

[AnnieMouse60]

Yes but an exclusive game really doesn't automatically mean an exclusive engine.

I've worked on a number of "exclusive" games written in cross-platform or re-used engines between games or sequels, with appropriate changes.

Say an average next-gen game team has a burn rate of something like £250k -£300k a month, ( wages, licenses, offices etc). Your game takes 2 years, that's £6mill -£7 mill.

One cancelled or badly performing game will _kill_ a company. That's why you spread the risk.

[drewid88]

I know why MS dropped them. It's pretty funny, but I'm not saying on a public forum.

[GamMan93]

Can you message me why

[PSjcubic]

this bitch is off the hook

[bud389]

Gamespot, Gamefaqs, N4G, and consolemonster. If it matters at all, it will be called WarDevil: Enigma, which i assume might be a different version of it... Kinda like what they did with FF13 i guess.

[Kaddasi]

WarDevil is remained PlayStation3 exclusive, and hasn't not been announced yet, I don't know which site has this information,, :-)

just lets wait for it.

[283]

Its for Ps3 only, It was supposed to be for both systems but 360 version was cancelled.

[siddo4ty4]

Thanks for posting, but what a crappy trailer

[Guitarfreak15695]

looks like shit

[tsolless]

Honestly it just looks like another game that is promising the world and putting all of their eggs into graphics. Perhaps I'm jaded.

[KingsandmanII]

Hell yeah ps3 exclusive woot woot fuxk xbox

[22freedom33]

looks like an Overlord rip-off but in the future

(not saying its bad because it looks cool and I'm looking forward to the release but i need more footage of the gameplay )

[RiOT03267]

wot is it about?

[delandchick4u]

This 'game' is vaporware and Digi-Guys isn't even a game developer, they make crappy CGI apps.

[Kaddasi]

have you visited psu[dot]com , they conformed it by Digi-guys, it's actually a PS3 games.

yes they do CGI apps too.

[dylanmmc]

If the gameplay is anything in the ball park of Fallout 3 (RPG wise) this is going to be awesome. If this comment makes no sense please delete it because I honestly know very little about this game, just heard it is an upcoming RPG... and im playing Fo3 now so I'm looking for more western RPGs like that

[Kaddasi]

I agree

[nightmarex1]

looks good

[delandchick4u]

This game was canceled. It looks like crap anyway.

[TimeBomb014X]

no it was cancelled for 360

[dylanmmc]

yep thumbs up, its coming to PS3!

[bretert]

oh yes your right, because ps3 games equal shit right? wake up idiot..

[mwm433]

fuck of douchebag who said you have to give us your fagboy3shitty review. hav you seen the gameplay? no so get lost

[ajgio]

resistance 2 kills halo 3

[APOL1000]

interesting .

looks fantastic .

[MegaSuperUberMe]

looks awesome, hopefully it's won't be some kinda Haze2 aka SUCK

[megamunchit2008]

Games are not about cut scenes. It's about gameplay. Cut scenes always look good, then gameplay looks different.

[Kaddasi]

I agree, the CutScenes always look great comparing to actul game.

[mauro125]

That's not always true. Look at mgs4 for instance, the cut scenes look as good as the game play.

[AttackOfTheShower]

Looks fucking kick ass. Glad I have a PS3

[Kaddasi]

You have not seen anything yet, hav you seen Heavy Rain PS3 exclusive, and no next-Gen can be able to handle this game expect the monster PS3. check youtube for it.

[Assassinstrike08]

Does anyone know the release date of this game? or when can I expect to see more from this game?

[Kaddasi]

No Body knows, when this game is going to be released, visit psu[dot]com, they have more info about it.

[uscommander1]

2009 is a safe bet im sure.

[catmando963]

looks like a mix between KOTOR and GOW. maybe a bit of killzone thrown in :)

[Kaddasi]

Ha Ha Ha , maybe who knows, it's to early to predicte buddy. (^_^)

[sajeevanx4]

good game but they really shouldn't include the fatass in the game

[TheCommentingArtist]

looks scary.

[necronia1707]

What's this game about? What sort of game is it? Like is it a shooter or strategy

[Kaddasi]

Shooter, I guess, but still, the game in the prossec.

[K7foeva]

looks like a kick ass game!!

[rweshed]

more to come ps3 baby

[Kaddasi]

yup, I agree

[Kaddasi]

This Is one of My Favorite Anticipated game I'm waiting for.