I see this board has been taken over by religious nutjobs who thinks humanity is good for earth. How about all you religious nutjobs go and die off somewhere. I swear hitler should have won WW2, less religious assholes preaching about how live is something more than a waste of time
I don't know what is better: life or death. It is beyond the epistemic horizon, that's for sure. I have a feeling that they are holding onto a third-person "it" God. How else can they produce their exhalation and awe? They would not feel so privileged in many other conditions.
Dawkins seems rather un-empathetic when he claims "you're lucky you were even born" "stop complaining" etc. Life for some people is miserable and a struggle. Sure, I agree life is awesome and for me a spectacular mystery, but to think we should all be thanking our lucky stars is a bit ignorant. Maybe he chose the wrong words for this interview, but think of those who are persecuted, tortured, murdered. Any number of horrible things can happen and do happen to humans. Life at times can be harsh
@sAeZCrVM Dawkins is telling those who think they have a miserable existence to stop whining, and realize how lucky you are to be alive, because it is so incredibly improbable, and so much better than never being alive.
@InsaneFameNYC what's the point of being alive if we're just going to die? Wouldn't it be better if we were never created in the first place? No war, no suffering, no harming mother earth, nothing bad would happen
All have sinned and greatly offended the holy God of the bible. The just punishment is death then Hell. that's not God's will. He became a man Jesus Christ and suffered and died on the cross paying for the law you broke in His lifes blood. now He can legally dismiss your case. You must repent turn from sin and trust alone in the finished work of Jesus Christ for your eternal salvation
Dawkins' "selfish gene" (1976) is very imaginative and I sincerely recommend it. At least check out the excerpt in "The Mind's I" found in pdf form online. Our bad idea was letting him stay on stage to masturbate for 35 years after writing it. Is there really any point to this conversation beyond these two windbags huffing about the assumed superiority of their worldview/religion? 'Yes. Let me read you some poetry so that you may admire me. Oh, I happen to have some Keats with me...'
Dawkins and co understand a lot of the reasons for existence. What they don't get is that there is nothing science or spirituality can offer to comfort or answer the average person other than a "Sky Daddy". They are both, especially Dawkins, extremely ignorant and arrogant of the fact that the average working class person cannot COMPREHEND what the hell they are talking about.
@gerhitchman Speaking of the Universe, I say the same thing both of these men said in this video..... Hallelujah! Look up the term... Peace my friend. Seek the light of Christ my friend and forget about people like this. They will lead you nowhere.
Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given to the profane masses is another useful idiot for Jesuit machinations-C.O.
Jesuitical: pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system to suit their Evo-Hoax agenda to discredit the Bible. They cant have a Satanic society of 'Do as Thou Wilt' if people still follow the Bible
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It's easy to love life when it is long (by our standards) and comfortable, but if you live in sub-saharan africa etc, you will choose religion. It's not true but it is necessary. Let's work to make religion un-necessary.
@1empathy Exactly. I love Dawkins as much as the next atheist but I find it uncharacteristically naive of him to say that every living human should just suck it up. I don't know if it makes me a defeatist but I'd honestly rather not exist than experience the misery that a large segment of our species deals with every day.
@1empathy You were talking about how pepole who live in shitty circumstances choose relgion as an escape i agree. I think you should check out the movie zeitgeist moving foward.
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People should be aborted when they are born. This is a stupid, meaningless, horrible world and a horrible planet. The fact that evolution can occur in this universe makes it the worst of all worlds in the multiverse. Our understanding of the universe will always fall short of a total comprehension. The human species has eliminated countless other species and wreaks environmental damage on a global level. The wars waged by humans are beyond anything any other species has ever achieved.
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All that they say is true and I agree with every word of it, but even so I cannot rid myself of the fear of death.
We cannot comprehend the absence of conciousness because comprehension implies conciousness. How can everything disappear, without me even knowing...how can I cease to feel or think anything at all ?
If you've ever undergone total anesthesia or fainted at some point in your life you know that time stops and in a brief instant you are awake again. What happens before you wake is what death really is : nothingness.
Imagine the same thing, but stretched out to infinity. You won't even know what happened, you won't ever wake up again, formulate any thought or feel anything.
Although I won't ever renounce my atheism, this incomprehensible loss frightens me.
@plExEFile I'm sorry you feel that way. Why not make it sound cheerful though? Why do you feel that we should be upset that we're not infinite and surrounded by magic and immortality?
why do you feel the urge to make claims of things that we are ever so far from even beginning to comprehend?
we do not understand how our own minds operate...we have no clue, as to what experience is. sure, chemicals flow, and neurons fire, but how does that translate into the universe we see? the life we have?
we don't know. i wish all of you would shut up, and drop the arrogance of claiming to know whether or not i am finite...or whether or not creation has purpose.
@Tartersauce101 I don't think we're on the same page here. We're starting to get an idea as to how our minds operate, for example, we understand that thoughts are the result of billions of neurons firing nerve impulses down their axons to the synapse of the next neuron. I don't belief life is the result of magic or any deity; we do not truly know with 100% accuracy how we got here and how life works, but I think it's childish to say that an imaginary friend did it.
"we have no clue, as to what experience is. sure, chemicals flow, and neurons fire, but how does that translate into the universe we see? the life we have?"
your response:
"we understand that thoughts are the result of billions of neurons firing nerve impulses down their axons to the synapse of the next neuron"
@Tartersauce101 Check out the connectome project and then reiterate your comment about us not understanding our minds. I love when people think science and knowledge are static things... its like if they didn't learn it when they went to school, it must not be true. Our resolution of functional brain scanning is doubling just as fast as integrated circuits (Moore's Law).
@Tartersauce101 you better STFU. Dawkins has stated once and for all that the mind creates everything. So STFU and listen to dawkins, the atheists' god
@Tartersauce101 you sound more like a religious nutjob than anything. Too bad hitler didn't just kill all the jews. we wouldn't have this middle east issue
@Truth118 We are surrounded by magic, but as you denounce it, you'll never see it. This is what I find funny about people who believe science is the be all, end all. To me, it seems that so many ignore the miracle that is existence. It so often is rationalized to the point where life seems meaningless, and where human beings are unfortunate spectators in a universe that cares nothing for them. "The Big Bang" became us, and I think that must make some statement about us.
@Cuddrow So I have to believe in it to see it? That's kind of unbelievable. I too believe our meager existence to be a "miracle"; I mean, what are the odds of you even being born? I'm not positive, but it seems that we, more or less, have the same view of existence.
@Truth118 I'd say that everything coming from nothing is pretty magical, and with that in mind, looking for magic makes sense. I think that the self-organizing and preservative qualities of the universe grants us every reason to be positive, and out of this process of emergence comes the ability for the universe to enjoy itself through self-consciousness. You sir, are a miracle, you are a god, and you are possibly the most advanced thing that science has ever observed. I say: revel in it!
Don't worry about anything folks. Just get on with your life. Don't worry about the things that are not in your control. Explore your own capabilities. Be good to people - they're part of your environment after all, which in turn affects you. Cooperate - live to better the whole, not the self - actually that's the best way to better the self too. Try to learn things. Keep an open mind. And don't waste any time worrying about death. We are one and infinite.
2:48 had to stop it again. Both of them said something this time. So, being dead for billions and billions of years before he was born was no problem. How does he know this? He may have suffered immeasurable pain for each and every second, but just lost the memory of that suffering sometime before birth. Or it may have been pleasurable. He just doesn't know.
Had to stop this at 2:27 to make a quick comment. So Dawkins tells us that life is good because it is so improbable. But it's improbable that one would get ditched by their lover, mugged, told they have cancer, step on a nail, get struck by lightning and run over by a car all on their birthday - would that be good?
@InsaneFameNYC Because I put the time code into my comment to avoid the need to type in everything he said, which would have made it more difficult for me to fit in the rest of what I wanted to say. If you listen to what he says around and just before 2:27 in the video you'll see that the gist of what he was saying was that we should be grateful for being alive because life is so improbable. Hope that clears things up for you. Have a nice day now and take it easy buddy :-)
@1simonmatthews Unless youre claiming that not being alive is better than life, its pretty clear the "gist" of what Dawkins said is we are lucky to be alive because life is improbable. Clearer now?
@InsaneFameNYC Well actually, the gist of what he said was that we should stop moaning because we're lucky to be here because life is so improbable. But it's also improbable that I get struck by lightining 10 times, and if that did happen, and I was still alive, I'd certainly moan a bit lol haha
@1simonmatthews I see why you're confused, you're able to understand getting hit with lighting is worse than not getting hit with lightning, but not to understand being alive is better than never being alive. Dawkins and his generally audience is.
@InsaneFameNYC I think you are the one who is confused. The fact is, some people have a terrible existence. Non-existence would be a better option for some. It may be a fact that Dawkins has a nice existence, and maybe you too, I don't know, but that doesn't mean existence is nice for all. Dawkins and yourself can't understand that.
@1simonmatthews The whole point that you keep missing is Dawkins is telling those who think they have a terrible existence to stop whining, and realize how lucky you are to be alive, because it is so incredibly improbable, and so much better than never being alive. The ignorance of those people sicken Dawkins and Dennet. And most of their audience, including me :-)
@InsaneFameNYC And the ignorance (and arrogance to assume that their opinion is the right one) of Dawkins and people like you sickens me to be honest. Fair enough for people who complain over insignificant things, but there are those whose lives are a living nightmare. You may live in your own little happy bubble, oblivious to the nightmare that some are living through, but that doesn't mean that all is good in this world. It's simply ignorant to think that.
@InsaneFameNYC Haha, right back at ya my friend! By the way, I don't whinge about my life, I'm just aware that there are those who do suffer and don't ignore this fact. I'm having a whale of a time because nothing matters at all and nothing bothers me and I don't worry about a thing. Stay happy in your bubble dude ;-)
@InsaneFameNYC Now what was the alternative again? Something that Dawkins said lasted for billions and billions of years without giving him a problem. Hmm, I'm starting to think I'd prefer that than having to listen to your rose-tinted and frankly inane reasoning for much longer lol. But I tell you what, go and spread your views to the people dying in the middle east, then come back to me and tell me how you got on. If you're views are right then you should do well. I wish you good luck.
(quote by Dawnkins continued from below comment) "If there ever is a time of plenty, this very fact will automatically lead to an increase in the population until the natural state of starvation and misery is restored. In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice."
“The total amount of suffering per year in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation. During the minute that it takes me to compose this sentence, thousands of animals are being eaten alive, many others are running for their lives, whimpering with fear, others are slowly being devoured from within by rasping parasites, thousands of all kinds are dying of starvation, thirst, and disease. It must be so." (continued in next comment)
We were born into thought by a place not created by thought, were conditioned by it/nature. Quarks,subatomic particles too stars and planets all conditioned to work so harmoniously in agreement. Are brains so wrapped up in thought we can miss the hidden perception that thought is not number one, it's the illusion, call it whatever beyond thought, nature, life whatever we are all created by it so like it or not we are it's children.Thats my thoughts + Say bye to good/bad segregating religion's (:
I liked what Dawkins said for the most part about life and death, but I thought Dawkins was WAY too judgemental with regards to people being sad their lives would end (probably without considering all the circumstances that would produce such sorrow). Dawkins is a wonderfully eloquent and intelligent man, but he lacks a small amount of tact. Good vid overall, though.
The process, while I'm an atheist but am also a nihilist. The process is anything but beautiful or good. Very strange to hear this coming from these two, the comos and evolution is a horrible, cold, and judgmental place. While I respect both of these guys, the sheer fact we are as intelligent as we are is a testament of the horribleness nature was to our ancestors.
@codester1111 I am very interested when nihilists talk about how cold and horrible existence is as it seems a very odd position to hold to in consideration to their axiology (or lack thereof).
It seems odd in light of the implications of your nihilism that you would call evolution "horrible" simply because it sounds so much like a value-judgement. I'd be interested in hearing how you can reconcile living a meaningless existence and yet at the same time prescribe certain values to it.
@SentinelConvergence First let me say a person cannot be a nihilist in my opinion. I look at it more as a world explanation that anything we feel is vain, worthless, and totally void of any meaning in and of itself. Evolution "blessed" me with feelings and to me when confronted with nihilism causes me to say what I did. So confronting the fact we are in a nihilistic universe and extreme objective thinking sort of causes a plurality of feeling within to make that value judgment.
improbable is wrong. inevitable is more like it... even more so now that we have these amazing theories of infinite multiverses & quantum theory. With infinite multiverses we can already say that everything that can happen, will happen many, many, many, many times over. K Thanks. (..And I like Dawkins)
hahaha i have to agree with your comment. It was probably just inevitable considering what we know about quantum theory. If the universe keeps expanding for an eternity it may eventually undergo a phase shift and transform into new universes. if this is true, then maybe this process of making new universes is endless and we will just keep waking up in new realities. It's a little bit like reincarnation, only it takes a very long time, like trillions and trillions of eons....
Why does Dawkins keep yammering on about improbability. Everything is improbable. The exact arrangement of bacteria on a shit is improbable. Who cares?!
Scientific light illuminating what happened before our births, the history of the great cosmos and earth's geology, does not show how human beings will survive. As far as social behaviour's history goes, consider the effect of historical religion on who married whom, and therefore on offspring. Did a thousand years of breeding under the auspices of a dominant Christian system affect human biology - potential, intellect, psychology - & with that social & educational expectations like science?
@GoldenMoonIB lol...I was looking for someone else who commented on that term..I was about to do that myself....funny! Its a great term and I'm not even an atheist.
Many atheists seem to derive comfort from the notion of vanishing upon death in a manner akin to how believers derive comfort from the notion of going to an angelic paradise. Both imply a form of "eternal rest". I think one reason why an alternative such as reincarnation can make atheists uncomfortable is because it implies that eternal rest may not be in the cards. Btw, even Carl Sagan wrote in his last book that evidence for reincarnation was intriguing enough to deserve more research.
@squamish4244 not everyone is the same. I'm pretty sure there are atheists out there who don't share that belief and why does there need to be an answer for everything?
@GoldenMoonIB Of course atheists come in all shapes and sizes. I realize that. But if there is evidence for something current science cannot explain, we should not dismiss it out of hand. In 1900 most scientists believed we had the universe all figured out, and then along came quantum physics and general relativity within five years of one another and the scientific paradigm was turned on its head forever. Who's to say it won't happen again?
Science is not a religion. But if you want to call it one, go ahead.
Ok, now what? Science is still constantly changing and growing to reflect reality. It still requires no faith. It still buries and utterly negates your religion and is in no way similar.
"But science is a religion!" you cry. Fine; call it one if you must. It changes nothing.
They face not only death with a much fuller experience and perspective than you, but life as well. We all someday stand where they do now, and beyond. Something tells me you won't stand there anywhere near as gracefully.
It really makes no sense... people like you who come and listen to these wonderful, intelligent people just so you can find a user comment to reply to with unrelated insults at the speakers in the video. Find a video of two interesting people talking about life and death? Reply by calling them ignorant bigots!
Gotta love these two...I love Dennet for his kindness he doesn't need to raise his voice to make his point and Dawkins...I wish I had him as a teacher. So much can be learned from the great human minds
Wow... visionaries are the elite intellectuals of our modern age and some day they will be a great loss to humanity. I sincerely hope/pray ;) their legacy lives for eternity.
Science is not religion. Science is a system of gathering factual information about the world around us. While the religious and non religious rely on science, one does not worship scientists as deities nor pray to them. It would in fact be contradictory to what science is.
Atheism is not a religion, though it is tied to religion by it's very logic. It uses open discussion, logic, and intelligent discourse to attempt to determine the nature of things devoid of deity causation and faith.
The reason there are always debates on religion is because people desperately want their to be a God. Without God their is no objective purpose to life and anything is permitted. I notice most atheists are very unhealthy and take lots of pharmaceutical drugs since they think the human body is not well designed. Daniel Denett is very fat and toxic no offense.
the whole universe from the microcosmos up to the macrocosmos, plants, solar systems, EVERYTING existing, is wired and beeing kept together by highly intelligent laws. Intelligent laws require respective intelligent or creative entity. Only a perfect SELFISH IGNORANT can ignore such fundamental basics like 1+1=2
Dawkins & co apostles of the vacuum should be able to give an answer what higher sense life shall have in his ont-time-life theory taken from the clouds, or stop to make the ignorants
How can he claim to have been dead for millions or billions of years before coming to life? there are thens of thousends of pre-life-experiences many of them by children which document they have lived as another person to another time, often just few decennies back and which could be perfectly tracked, so who is doing such kind of claims like Dawkins is just perfectly IGORING endless evidence which says the exact contrary of thim.
I think that it is great that Mr. Dawkins has made a name for himself. Dawkins takes this condescending attitude to Americans - And it is because of people like Dawkins that England has fallen so far behind in world standing. I think that he has Little Man Syndrome - trying to compensate for insignificant stature. Yes "it is a privelege to live here" he says. What he is doing is prejudicing the world according to his own privelege.
@planetnews i think they are talking about the discoveries of science, not the science itself, the fact that we are literally star dust and related to every other organism on this planet can make you feel "spiritual", aslong as it doesn't block his science then it doesn't matter, just like ken millers dumbass beleif in the christian god doesn't stop him from doing good science
Science and religion/spirituality need to be seperate. As long as the latter does not make claims (such as saying evolution is false) that goes against the former and vice versa, there should be no problems. I say this as a deist.
@metaldude82 well, while doing science you should keep out spirituality and religion but getting spiritual feelings from science is not bad, its when people start applying spirituality to science and saying when they disagree that science must be wrong, thats where the problems come from and deists are cool, i just dont like people who think they got a special place in life while children are starving to death, that urks me
@planetnews I think scientific understanding is a GREAT substitute for religion when it comes to finding meaning, comfort + a sense of spirituality in our lives in the face of the tangible fear and uncertainty that can accompany our unique-to-species conception of our own deaths.
To me, the understandings that they talk about here are spiritually comforting in the same way religious beliefs can be, and in fact seem more liberating and free of dysfunctionality than religious alternatives.
@MultiFisherofmen Science is not a religion. Atheism is, you're just another Judeo universalist who's belief are in direct confrontation with sane and rational thoughts. F.Y.I YHWH created science!
@RichBrIs Also, don't forget the fact that it's TRUE either. That is the most profound comfort for me, knowing the truth; even if it doesn't construct the world as I might "like it to be."
I see this board has been taken over by religious nutjobs who thinks humanity is good for earth. How about all you religious nutjobs go and die off somewhere. I swear hitler should have won WW2, less religious assholes preaching about how live is something more than a waste of time
DStrike0083 1 week ago
We're the universe experiencing itself *_*
mmvaliant 4 weeks ago
@mmvaliant True
TheMidwestsk8ter 3 weeks ago
@mmvaliant "we're a way for the cosmos to know itself" - carl sagan :)))
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I don't know what is better: life or death. It is beyond the epistemic horizon, that's for sure. I have a feeling that they are holding onto a third-person "it" God. How else can they produce their exhalation and awe? They would not feel so privileged in many other conditions.
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"you're not just kind of thanking your "sky-daddy"". oh my gosh i couldn't stop laughing.
flyonUF0 1 month ago
Dawkins seems rather un-empathetic when he claims "you're lucky you were even born" "stop complaining" etc. Life for some people is miserable and a struggle. Sure, I agree life is awesome and for me a spectacular mystery, but to think we should all be thanking our lucky stars is a bit ignorant. Maybe he chose the wrong words for this interview, but think of those who are persecuted, tortured, murdered. Any number of horrible things can happen and do happen to humans. Life at times can be harsh
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@sAeZCrVM Dawkins is telling those who think they have a miserable existence to stop whining, and realize how lucky you are to be alive, because it is so incredibly improbable, and so much better than never being alive.
InsaneFameNYC 1 month ago
@InsaneFameNYC what's the point of being alive if we're just going to die? Wouldn't it be better if we were never created in the first place? No war, no suffering, no harming mother earth, nothing bad would happen
DStrike0083 1 week ago
@DStrike0083 So kill yourself if you think death > life :D
InsaneFameNYC 1 week ago
@InsaneFameNYC and if you think humans are somehow special, you must be a religious nutjob
DStrike0083 1 week ago
@DStrike0083 You're still confused. My life is special, that is why I choose life. You think your life is not special: Die. :)
InsaneFameNYC 1 week ago
@InsaneFameNYC special? You sound religious. A true atheist would see it as something to waste time before dying
DStrike0083 1 week ago
@DStrike0083 Spend time, waste time, enjoy time, its all better then the alternative. Now back to the subject, why aren't you dead yet?
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All have sinned and greatly offended the holy God of the bible. The just punishment is death then Hell. that's not God's will. He became a man Jesus Christ and suffered and died on the cross paying for the law you broke in His lifes blood. now He can legally dismiss your case. You must repent turn from sin and trust alone in the finished work of Jesus Christ for your eternal salvation
mamainmancj 1 month ago
What book is Dawkins reading out of?
thejack1212 2 months ago
I could totally love the idea of Dawkins reading to me at bedtime!!!
Strictlypointless 2 months ago 4
Dawkins' "selfish gene" (1976) is very imaginative and I sincerely recommend it. At least check out the excerpt in "The Mind's I" found in pdf form online. Our bad idea was letting him stay on stage to masturbate for 35 years after writing it. Is there really any point to this conversation beyond these two windbags huffing about the assumed superiority of their worldview/religion? 'Yes. Let me read you some poetry so that you may admire me. Oh, I happen to have some Keats with me...'
pronchik 2 months ago
Dawkins and co understand a lot of the reasons for existence. What they don't get is that there is nothing science or spirituality can offer to comfort or answer the average person other than a "Sky Daddy". They are both, especially Dawkins, extremely ignorant and arrogant of the fact that the average working class person cannot COMPREHEND what the hell they are talking about.
JamesGod08 2 months ago
Dawkins: What is youre opinion on the marvelous topic of life and death?
Dennet: Holy shit, you're a brit!
werderdiablo 2 months ago
These two geniuses don't have any idea that they are praising God.
imax1971 2 months ago
@imax1971 Oh, shut the fuck up.
gerhitchman 1 month ago
@gerhitchman Speaking of the Universe, I say the same thing both of these men said in this video..... Hallelujah! Look up the term... Peace my friend. Seek the light of Christ my friend and forget about people like this. They will lead you nowhere.
imax1971 1 month ago
convulsive little bastard
VreeFisions 2 months ago
These guys are having a pointless conversation.
Snotra 3 months ago
@Snotra yet the most interesting
dawtchins 2 months ago
Lol, sky daddy
bb330708 3 months ago
1:38 lol dawkins looks like a tiny man at this angle.
ShookOnesTO 3 months ago
I try to portray myself as somewhat of an intellectual but whenever Richard Dawkins speaks I have to scream FUCK YEAH!!!
He is awe inspiring. It would be an honor to meat him.
amers963 3 months ago
Richard Dawkins: Yea, what about that?
cheatdath 4 months ago
I think the medication that you are taking made you say something that is the complete opposite of what you meant to say.
Wordlaw12 4 months ago
These guys are great the way they put these matters of life and death. They make you feel good about everything.
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Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given to the profane masses is another useful idiot for Jesuit machinations-C.O.
Jesuitical: pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system to suit their Evo-Hoax agenda to discredit the Bible. They cant have a Satanic society of 'Do as Thou Wilt' if people still follow the Bible
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It's easy to love life when it is long (by our standards) and comfortable, but if you live in sub-saharan africa etc, you will choose religion. It's not true but it is necessary. Let's work to make religion un-necessary.
1empathy 6 months ago 37
@1empathy best thing said on here
MrDannie88 5 months ago
@1empathy
Fantastic point
hailbopp 4 months ago
@1empathy No, I prefer to keep them ignorant and desperate.
WarmongerWW3 4 months ago
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1empathy 4 months ago
@1empathy Exactly. I love Dawkins as much as the next atheist but I find it uncharacteristically naive of him to say that every living human should just suck it up. I don't know if it makes me a defeatist but I'd honestly rather not exist than experience the misery that a large segment of our species deals with every day.
SirFrancealot 2 months ago
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TheMidwestsk8ter 3 weeks ago
@TheMidwestsk8ter not sure of your point here (you are very brief) can you enlarge on that? do you disagree with me?
1empathy 2 weeks ago
@1empathy You were talking about how pepole who live in shitty circumstances choose relgion as an escape i agree. I think you should check out the movie zeitgeist moving foward.
TheMidwestsk8ter 2 weeks ago
@1empathy Agreed. It's a luxury to not need those delusions to live a fulfilling life
THX10538 2 weeks ago
@1empathy is that why you promote drone bombing children in pakistan and iraq?
DStrike0083 1 week ago
@DStrike0083 I don't promote that.
1empathy 1 week ago
@1empathy I promote a nuclear holocaust. If you disagree, you're a relgious nutjob
DStrike0083 1 week ago
@ideasforfeeling
look, when your parents made you their genome could combine in a few million ways so you are quite fortunate that you are here and you are you
zatoTWO 6 months ago
Let us take a moment to mourn the loss of Mr Dawkin's fallen sperm brothers, and thank them for allowing little Richard to champion the egg and form the future.
RPSM101 6 months ago
@RPSM101 lol classic
InsaneFameNYC 6 months ago
"hallelujah".
and then he went back inside to fuck the missus.
hard.
natmanprime 6 months ago
If god didn't exist it would be necessary to invent him.
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TheServiceWeb 6 months ago
Stop moaning.
thegafferlives 6 months ago
People should be aborted when they are born. This is a stupid, meaningless, horrible world and a horrible planet. The fact that evolution can occur in this universe makes it the worst of all worlds in the multiverse. Our understanding of the universe will always fall short of a total comprehension. The human species has eliminated countless other species and wreaks environmental damage on a global level. The wars waged by humans are beyond anything any other species has ever achieved.
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TheServiceWeb 6 months ago
All that they say is true and I agree with every word of it, but even so I cannot rid myself of the fear of death.
We cannot comprehend the absence of conciousness because comprehension implies conciousness. How can everything disappear, without me even knowing...how can I cease to feel or think anything at all ?
TheUnchainedMind 7 months ago
@TheUnchainedMind
If you've ever undergone total anesthesia or fainted at some point in your life you know that time stops and in a brief instant you are awake again. What happens before you wake is what death really is : nothingness.
Imagine the same thing, but stretched out to infinity. You won't even know what happened, you won't ever wake up again, formulate any thought or feel anything.
Although I won't ever renounce my atheism, this incomprehensible loss frightens me.
TheUnchainedMind 7 months ago
The amazing quote Dawkins reads at the end... Where is it from?
webtvmaster 7 months ago
Wow so they understand how it all happened!!!
God is the Universe. That makes sense.
jjvescovi11 7 months ago
This discussion is awful. Atheist, you are from nothing for nothing. Don't try and make it sound cheerful.
plExEFile 7 months ago
@plExEFile I'm sorry you feel that way. Why not make it sound cheerful though? Why do you feel that we should be upset that we're not infinite and surrounded by magic and immortality?
Truth118 7 months ago
@Truth118
why do you feel the urge to make claims of things that we are ever so far from even beginning to comprehend?
we do not understand how our own minds operate...we have no clue, as to what experience is. sure, chemicals flow, and neurons fire, but how does that translate into the universe we see? the life we have?
we don't know. i wish all of you would shut up, and drop the arrogance of claiming to know whether or not i am finite...or whether or not creation has purpose.
Tartersauce101 7 months ago 4
@Tartersauce101 I don't think we're on the same page here. We're starting to get an idea as to how our minds operate, for example, we understand that thoughts are the result of billions of neurons firing nerve impulses down their axons to the synapse of the next neuron. I don't belief life is the result of magic or any deity; we do not truly know with 100% accuracy how we got here and how life works, but I think it's childish to say that an imaginary friend did it.
Truth118 7 months ago
@Truth118
from my post:
"we have no clue, as to what experience is. sure, chemicals flow, and neurons fire, but how does that translate into the universe we see? the life we have?"
your response:
"we understand that thoughts are the result of billions of neurons firing nerve impulses down their axons to the synapse of the next neuron"
i think you kinda missed the point :)
Tartersauce101 6 months ago
@Tartersauce101 Crumbs - so well put...
fishybishbash 6 months ago
@Tartersauce101 Check out the connectome project and then reiterate your comment about us not understanding our minds. I love when people think science and knowledge are static things... its like if they didn't learn it when they went to school, it must not be true. Our resolution of functional brain scanning is doubling just as fast as integrated circuits (Moore's Law).
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@Tartersauce101 At the end of the day there are people with the answers. And it's those secrets that keep the wheel of the world spinning
bodybuildinguide 1 month ago
@Tartersauce101 you better STFU. Dawkins has stated once and for all that the mind creates everything. So STFU and listen to dawkins, the atheists' god
DStrike0083 1 week ago
@DStrike0083
haha, of course how silly of me to question anything!
also 0083 was a classic anime :)
Tartersauce101 1 week ago
@Tartersauce101 you sound more like a religious nutjob than anything. Too bad hitler didn't just kill all the jews. we wouldn't have this middle east issue
DStrike0083 1 week ago
@DStrike0083
Awww, you're a troll?!
Son, I am disappoint.
Eat shit and die.
Tartersauce101 1 week ago
@Tartersauce101 what's the matter reliigous nutjob? Angry that you'll soon die and nothing good will occur except you destroying the planet? How sad
DStrike0083 1 week ago
@Truth118 We are surrounded by magic, but as you denounce it, you'll never see it. This is what I find funny about people who believe science is the be all, end all. To me, it seems that so many ignore the miracle that is existence. It so often is rationalized to the point where life seems meaningless, and where human beings are unfortunate spectators in a universe that cares nothing for them. "The Big Bang" became us, and I think that must make some statement about us.
Cuddrow 6 months ago
@Cuddrow So I have to believe in it to see it? That's kind of unbelievable. I too believe our meager existence to be a "miracle"; I mean, what are the odds of you even being born? I'm not positive, but it seems that we, more or less, have the same view of existence.
Truth118 6 months ago
@Truth118 I'd say that everything coming from nothing is pretty magical, and with that in mind, looking for magic makes sense. I think that the self-organizing and preservative qualities of the universe grants us every reason to be positive, and out of this process of emergence comes the ability for the universe to enjoy itself through self-consciousness. You sir, are a miracle, you are a god, and you are possibly the most advanced thing that science has ever observed. I say: revel in it!
Cuddrow 6 months ago
The day Richard Dawkins met Father Christmas.
NightmareCinemaChild 7 months ago
Don't worry about anything folks. Just get on with your life. Don't worry about the things that are not in your control. Explore your own capabilities. Be good to people - they're part of your environment after all, which in turn affects you. Cooperate - live to better the whole, not the self - actually that's the best way to better the self too. Try to learn things. Keep an open mind. And don't waste any time worrying about death. We are one and infinite.
1simonmatthews 7 months ago
2:48 had to stop it again. Both of them said something this time. So, being dead for billions and billions of years before he was born was no problem. How does he know this? He may have suffered immeasurable pain for each and every second, but just lost the memory of that suffering sometime before birth. Or it may have been pleasurable. He just doesn't know.
1simonmatthews 7 months ago
Had to stop this at 2:27 to make a quick comment. So Dawkins tells us that life is good because it is so improbable. But it's improbable that one would get ditched by their lover, mugged, told they have cancer, step on a nail, get struck by lightning and run over by a car all on their birthday - would that be good?
1simonmatthews 7 months ago
@1simonmatthews Not good because it's improbable. It's good AND it's improbable, which is why we should appreciate it.
InsaneFameNYC 7 months ago
@InsaneFameNYC That's not what he said though.
1simonmatthews 7 months ago
@1simonmatthews So why don't you just quote him, buddy.
InsaneFameNYC 7 months ago
@InsaneFameNYC Because I put the time code into my comment to avoid the need to type in everything he said, which would have made it more difficult for me to fit in the rest of what I wanted to say. If you listen to what he says around and just before 2:27 in the video you'll see that the gist of what he was saying was that we should be grateful for being alive because life is so improbable. Hope that clears things up for you. Have a nice day now and take it easy buddy :-)
1simonmatthews 7 months ago
@1simonmatthews Unless youre claiming that not being alive is better than life, its pretty clear the "gist" of what Dawkins said is we are lucky to be alive because life is improbable. Clearer now?
InsaneFameNYC 7 months ago
@InsaneFameNYC Well actually, the gist of what he said was that we should stop moaning because we're lucky to be here because life is so improbable. But it's also improbable that I get struck by lightining 10 times, and if that did happen, and I was still alive, I'd certainly moan a bit lol haha
1simonmatthews 7 months ago
@1simonmatthews I see why you're confused, you're able to understand getting hit with lighting is worse than not getting hit with lightning, but not to understand being alive is better than never being alive. Dawkins and his generally audience is.
InsaneFameNYC 7 months ago
@InsaneFameNYC I think you are the one who is confused. The fact is, some people have a terrible existence. Non-existence would be a better option for some. It may be a fact that Dawkins has a nice existence, and maybe you too, I don't know, but that doesn't mean existence is nice for all. Dawkins and yourself can't understand that.
1simonmatthews 7 months ago
@1simonmatthews The whole point that you keep missing is Dawkins is telling those who think they have a terrible existence to stop whining, and realize how lucky you are to be alive, because it is so incredibly improbable, and so much better than never being alive. The ignorance of those people sicken Dawkins and Dennet. And most of their audience, including me :-)
InsaneFameNYC 7 months ago
@InsaneFameNYC And the ignorance (and arrogance to assume that their opinion is the right one) of Dawkins and people like you sickens me to be honest. Fair enough for people who complain over insignificant things, but there are those whose lives are a living nightmare. You may live in your own little happy bubble, oblivious to the nightmare that some are living through, but that doesn't mean that all is good in this world. It's simply ignorant to think that.
1simonmatthews 7 months ago
@1simonmatthews And now I will quote Dawkins: "Stop whingeing!"
InsaneFameNYC 7 months ago
@InsaneFameNYC Haha, right back at ya my friend! By the way, I don't whinge about my life, I'm just aware that there are those who do suffer and don't ignore this fact. I'm having a whale of a time because nothing matters at all and nothing bothers me and I don't worry about a thing. Stay happy in your bubble dude ;-)
1simonmatthews 7 months ago
@1simonmatthews Animals "suffer" too, you don't see them bitching.
InsaneFameNYC 7 months ago
@InsaneFameNYC Haha you obviously haven't met my African Grey have you? She don't quit whinging!
1simonmatthews 7 months ago
@1simonmatthews Try feeding her, maybe she can teach you why life is better than its alternative.
InsaneFameNYC 7 months ago
@InsaneFameNYC Now what was the alternative again? Something that Dawkins said lasted for billions and billions of years without giving him a problem. Hmm, I'm starting to think I'd prefer that than having to listen to your rose-tinted and frankly inane reasoning for much longer lol. But I tell you what, go and spread your views to the people dying in the middle east, then come back to me and tell me how you got on. If you're views are right then you should do well. I wish you good luck.
1simonmatthews 7 months ago
@1simonmatthews This video can play anywhere in the world, they can all learn to "stop wingeing!" on their own.
InsaneFameNYC 7 months ago
@InsaneFameNYC That's just as well then, because if they were forced to listen to you, I think that would push them over the edge.
1simonmatthews 7 months ago
Two high priests of the Darwinian lot proving that their belief system is a relligon and not true science.
1cor14 8 months ago
I pity the religious people whose god(s) are so weak that they require the help of internet trolls to keep them alive.
BlameRepublicans 8 months ago
@DawkinsForWeAreMany Amazing what you can hear when you really want to hear it. The voice of God, for instance.
Buffoon1980 8 months ago
@DawkinsForWeAreMany what depression ?
hawkertruffelsnout 8 months ago
(quote by Dawnkins continued from below comment) "If there ever is a time of plenty, this very fact will automatically lead to an increase in the population until the natural state of starvation and misery is restored. In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice."
zacmienieorg 8 months ago
Let me quote Richard Dawkins himself:
“The total amount of suffering per year in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation. During the minute that it takes me to compose this sentence, thousands of animals are being eaten alive, many others are running for their lives, whimpering with fear, others are slowly being devoured from within by rasping parasites, thousands of all kinds are dying of starvation, thirst, and disease. It must be so." (continued in next comment)
zacmienieorg 8 months ago
We were born into thought by a place not created by thought, were conditioned by it/nature. Quarks,subatomic particles too stars and planets all conditioned to work so harmoniously in agreement. Are brains so wrapped up in thought we can miss the hidden perception that thought is not number one, it's the illusion, call it whatever beyond thought, nature, life whatever we are all created by it so like it or not we are it's children.Thats my thoughts + Say bye to good/bad segregating religion's (:
useruseruser111 8 months ago
I liked what Dawkins said for the most part about life and death, but I thought Dawkins was WAY too judgemental with regards to people being sad their lives would end (probably without considering all the circumstances that would produce such sorrow). Dawkins is a wonderfully eloquent and intelligent man, but he lacks a small amount of tact. Good vid overall, though.
Jaybird196 9 months ago
The process, while I'm an atheist but am also a nihilist. The process is anything but beautiful or good. Very strange to hear this coming from these two, the comos and evolution is a horrible, cold, and judgmental place. While I respect both of these guys, the sheer fact we are as intelligent as we are is a testament of the horribleness nature was to our ancestors.
codester1111 9 months ago
@codester1111 I am very interested when nihilists talk about how cold and horrible existence is as it seems a very odd position to hold to in consideration to their axiology (or lack thereof).
It seems odd in light of the implications of your nihilism that you would call evolution "horrible" simply because it sounds so much like a value-judgement. I'd be interested in hearing how you can reconcile living a meaningless existence and yet at the same time prescribe certain values to it.
SentinelConvergence 9 months ago
@SentinelConvergence First let me say a person cannot be a nihilist in my opinion. I look at it more as a world explanation that anything we feel is vain, worthless, and totally void of any meaning in and of itself. Evolution "blessed" me with feelings and to me when confronted with nihilism causes me to say what I did. So confronting the fact we are in a nihilistic universe and extreme objective thinking sort of causes a plurality of feeling within to make that value judgment.
codester1111 9 months ago
improbable is wrong. inevitable is more like it... even more so now that we have these amazing theories of infinite multiverses & quantum theory. With infinite multiverses we can already say that everything that can happen, will happen many, many, many, many times over. K Thanks. (..And I like Dawkins)
acrolicious 9 months ago
@acrolicious
hahaha i have to agree with your comment. It was probably just inevitable considering what we know about quantum theory. If the universe keeps expanding for an eternity it may eventually undergo a phase shift and transform into new universes. if this is true, then maybe this process of making new universes is endless and we will just keep waking up in new realities. It's a little bit like reincarnation, only it takes a very long time, like trillions and trillions of eons....
braveheart2013 9 months ago
Why does Dawkins keep yammering on about improbability. Everything is improbable. The exact arrangement of bacteria on a shit is improbable. Who cares?!
CambridgeHeights 9 months ago
Who says we do not marvel in our thankfulness? :)
Jesusknowsyou1 9 months ago
Scientific light illuminating what happened before our births, the history of the great cosmos and earth's geology, does not show how human beings will survive. As far as social behaviour's history goes, consider the effect of historical religion on who married whom, and therefore on offspring. Did a thousand years of breeding under the auspices of a dominant Christian system affect human biology - potential, intellect, psychology - & with that social & educational expectations like science?
youbigtubership 10 months ago
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youbigtubership 10 months ago
Aleluya!!! ....what is the name of the Author of the book that Dawkins is reading?
ser88vaz 10 months ago
6:40 holy shyt his shoulders are bigger than his body :O lol
GoldenMoonIB 11 months ago
skydaddy, i'm going to use that term from now on <3
GoldenMoonIB 11 months ago
@GoldenMoonIB lol...I was looking for someone else who commented on that term..I was about to do that myself....funny! Its a great term and I'm not even an atheist.
cymbeli 10 months ago
i feel sad for these guys and the reality they'll come to know when there about to die.
quagmire444 11 months ago
@quagmire444 I feel worse for you knowing you are living and believing a lie.
MrTheBrent 11 months ago 8
@MrTheBrent agree to disagree
quagmire444 11 months ago
@quagmire444 well i think no one really knows now do they, unless they are god?
GoldenMoonIB 11 months ago
@GoldenMoonIB touche my friend, touche.
quagmire444 11 months ago
Many atheists seem to derive comfort from the notion of vanishing upon death in a manner akin to how believers derive comfort from the notion of going to an angelic paradise. Both imply a form of "eternal rest". I think one reason why an alternative such as reincarnation can make atheists uncomfortable is because it implies that eternal rest may not be in the cards. Btw, even Carl Sagan wrote in his last book that evidence for reincarnation was intriguing enough to deserve more research.
squamish4244 11 months ago
@squamish4244 not everyone is the same. I'm pretty sure there are atheists out there who don't share that belief and why does there need to be an answer for everything?
GoldenMoonIB 11 months ago
@GoldenMoonIB Of course atheists come in all shapes and sizes. I realize that. But if there is evidence for something current science cannot explain, we should not dismiss it out of hand. In 1900 most scientists believed we had the universe all figured out, and then along came quantum physics and general relativity within five years of one another and the scientific paradigm was turned on its head forever. Who's to say it won't happen again?
squamish4244 11 months ago
@MultiFisherofmen
Science is not a religion. But if you want to call it one, go ahead.
Ok, now what? Science is still constantly changing and growing to reflect reality. It still requires no faith. It still buries and utterly negates your religion and is in no way similar.
"But science is a religion!" you cry. Fine; call it one if you must. It changes nothing.
taicleis 11 months ago
@PhotonUponLight
Do they sound like they need death 'solved'?
They face not only death with a much fuller experience and perspective than you, but life as well. We all someday stand where they do now, and beyond. Something tells me you won't stand there anywhere near as gracefully.
taicleis 11 months ago
@soldatheero
It really makes no sense... people like you who come and listen to these wonderful, intelligent people just so you can find a user comment to reply to with unrelated insults at the speakers in the video. Find a video of two interesting people talking about life and death? Reply by calling them ignorant bigots!
Go away. Your criticism is baseless and hateful.
taicleis 11 months ago
Gotta love these two...I love Dennet for his kindness he doesn't need to raise his voice to make his point and Dawkins...I wish I had him as a teacher. So much can be learned from the great human minds
neianna 11 months ago
@kick08ful haha yes sure intellectual biggots like these, ignorant of their ignorance are todays visionaries. Buddies packing LOL's!!!
soldatheero 1 year ago
Wow... visionaries are the elite intellectuals of our modern age and some day they will be a great loss to humanity. I sincerely hope/pray ;) their legacy lives for eternity.
kick08ful 1 year ago
Skydaddy, haha...
mrrem98 1 year ago
Science is not religion. Science is a system of gathering factual information about the world around us. While the religious and non religious rely on science, one does not worship scientists as deities nor pray to them. It would in fact be contradictory to what science is.
Atheism is not a religion, though it is tied to religion by it's very logic. It uses open discussion, logic, and intelligent discourse to attempt to determine the nature of things devoid of deity causation and faith.
achromat666 1 year ago
Look at these weak humans.. they are old and gonna face death soon..
No science is not gonna solve old age and death.. still arrogance with that grey hair
PhotonUponLight 1 year ago
Everyone want to be a big thinker. The wold however will be better when there will be coming the big DOERS
megatown 1 year ago
Richard is so cute, comforting Dennet with science, thats a true friend!
JollSSteR 1 year ago
The reason there are always debates on religion is because people desperately want their to be a God. Without God their is no objective purpose to life and anything is permitted. I notice most atheists are very unhealthy and take lots of pharmaceutical drugs since they think the human body is not well designed. Daniel Denett is very fat and toxic no offense.
7TJBarba 1 year ago
the whole universe from the microcosmos up to the macrocosmos, plants, solar systems, EVERYTING existing, is wired and beeing kept together by highly intelligent laws. Intelligent laws require respective intelligent or creative entity. Only a perfect SELFISH IGNORANT can ignore such fundamental basics like 1+1=2
Dawkins & co apostles of the vacuum should be able to give an answer what higher sense life shall have in his ont-time-life theory taken from the clouds, or stop to make the ignorants
megatown 1 year ago
What are your spiritual views?
metaldude82 1 year ago
How can he claim to have been dead for millions or billions of years before coming to life? there are thens of thousends of pre-life-experiences many of them by children which document they have lived as another person to another time, often just few decennies back and which could be perfectly tracked, so who is doing such kind of claims like Dawkins is just perfectly IGORING endless evidence which says the exact contrary of thim.
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megatown 1 year ago
Halleluja, boys!
mimzywhimzy 1 year ago
I think that it is great that Mr. Dawkins has made a name for himself. Dawkins takes this condescending attitude to Americans - And it is because of people like Dawkins that England has fallen so far behind in world standing. I think that he has Little Man Syndrome - trying to compensate for insignificant stature. Yes "it is a privelege to live here" he says. What he is doing is prejudicing the world according to his own privelege.
RayL1983 1 year ago
@planetnews i think they are talking about the discoveries of science, not the science itself, the fact that we are literally star dust and related to every other organism on this planet can make you feel "spiritual", aslong as it doesn't block his science then it doesn't matter, just like ken millers dumbass beleif in the christian god doesn't stop him from doing good science
blazereef 1 year ago
Science and religion/spirituality need to be seperate. As long as the latter does not make claims (such as saying evolution is false) that goes against the former and vice versa, there should be no problems. I say this as a deist.
metaldude82 1 year ago
@metaldude82 well, while doing science you should keep out spirituality and religion but getting spiritual feelings from science is not bad, its when people start applying spirituality to science and saying when they disagree that science must be wrong, thats where the problems come from and deists are cool, i just dont like people who think they got a special place in life while children are starving to death, that urks me
blazereef 1 year ago
Thanks for the words of wisdom. I am sorry I did not reply sooner. How about we ALL have a special place in life?
metaldude82 1 year ago
Jacque Fresco sould join this conversation.=)
Peace out..
The Venus Project
FranciscoKGuerreiro 1 year ago
@FranciscoKGuerreiro the venus project, is that some kind of gay thing?
AnonymousElektron 1 year ago
@FranciscoKGuerreiro i wont let u gays tempt me again
AnonymousElektron 1 year ago
@planetnews I think scientific understanding is a GREAT substitute for religion when it comes to finding meaning, comfort + a sense of spirituality in our lives in the face of the tangible fear and uncertainty that can accompany our unique-to-species conception of our own deaths.
To me, the understandings that they talk about here are spiritually comforting in the same way religious beliefs can be, and in fact seem more liberating and free of dysfunctionality than religious alternatives.
RichBrIs 1 year ago 15
@RichBrIs lol i just watched this video dawkins is a fag
AnonymousElektron 1 year ago
@RichBrIs Yes, Science in this day in age is most definitely a religion no matter how much these guys hate to admit it.
MultiFisherofmen 1 year ago
@MultiFisherofmen Science is not a religion. Atheism is, you're just another Judeo universalist who's belief are in direct confrontation with sane and rational thoughts. F.Y.I YHWH created science!
TheLoneWolf258 1 year ago
@RichBrIs Also, don't forget the fact that it's TRUE either. That is the most profound comfort for me, knowing the truth; even if it doesn't construct the world as I might "like it to be."
ZachRose88 7 months ago
@RichBrIs You mean, eugenics speak? How disgusting!
faro0485 7 months ago