By the way, the reason I even listened to it was partly to see if you were using Pro-Tools but mostly because my band's name was Thin White Line. We have a video posted here now called, "Strange Glances".
@RedVynil I took a class on ProTools a few years ago in a studio built specifically for ProTools. (Amazingly, even though it was one of the most well-known computer schools (CMU), they lost EVERYONE'S class project!!) Shortly after that, I bought a copy of Magix Audio Cleaner and have using that ever since to edit music. It's slightly similar to ProTools, but is only two channels. I've still been able to do some incredible edits on it.
@chuckawobbly Two tracks. Normally, I just work in one, but if I want to crossfade or do special edits or even have two sounds running side by side, I can split into two tracks. I can also split it into two channel stereo then split that into two tracks! I can usually find ways to do what I want to do even with only two tracks!
25 years ago, I recorded a piece using only my synth and two 2-track recording decks, neither had simul-sync! But I was able to record 9 channels on a 2-track tape!
I am that new-age guy where I cannot do anything with less than 24 tracks. I can't even record drums with less than 12! And I usually take up 4-8 (mics) when tracking guitars. 32 tracks vocal harmonies, 4 (mics) acoustics. But I D.I bass, haha.
@chuckawobbly I used to intern running sound at a local venue for mostly smaller international acts, they probably couldn't fill an arena, but had an international fan base. I would usually give the trap cymbals and each drum their own mic and have 2 overheads. Part of this comes from me having a 12-piece set and CONSTANTLY running into sound men that only had 3 to 5 drum mics!! This REALLY sucks because I have ALWAYS had two bass drums and they'd only have 1 bass mic!!...if I was LUCKY!!!!
I was talking about live drum miking to my live sound lecturer just last week, he has miked up an entire kit of three toms, kick snare, hats crash and ryde with just three mics. One of the kick, and two omni-mics in some configuration (I forget which one) that worked to pick the snare and toms up. Small venues you don't really need overheads, unless its a large place with like 200+ people,
@chuckawobbly The Graffiti was a big room. I ran sound there for Joydrop, Julian Lennon, Johnny Winter, and Todd Rundgren. The 1st time EVER even ATTEMPTED to run lights was for Adran Belew!! It used to be a car showroom of some sort.
Yeah, you can mic an entire set, depending on what equipment you're using, with 2 or 3 mics. One of the 1st times recorded in a pro studio, I used the house drums, a large set, 2 basses, & they used 3 mics! 2 overheads & a PZM on the wall. A bit muddy, but good.
I think the keyboard and one of the acoustic guitars is a touch out of tune, too. Nice song, though. Did you slow the bass down to get that deeper sound? It's pretty cool! Personally, as a drummer, I'd use a different cymbal sound, too. It's too harsh, sharp and crass sounding. Plus, it's way over-used. I have at least 6 cymbals in my set, so I hit different ones instead of the same one all the time, except for songs like, "We're Not Animals" and, "Another Day In The Compound", that need it.
don't let me get ya down, but something is way out of tune and your timing needs to be honed. other than that, I like your style. Simple yet effective.
It's the bass, its a crappy cheap bass that got handed down to me well over 10 years ago. I have recently redone the bass with new strings on it, its a huge improvement, but I cbf uploading it.
Sound cunning, mysterious ... I like it !
RailenT 1 year ago
@RailenT
Thanks man! I am not a huge fan of the bass though.
chuckawobbly 1 year ago
That's not a keyboard with the guitar at 1:40??
By the way, the reason I even listened to it was partly to see if you were using Pro-Tools but mostly because my band's name was Thin White Line. We have a video posted here now called, "Strange Glances".
RedVynil 1 year ago
@RedVynil
yeah no keys, all acoustic guitars. I can't play piano anyway.
I'm glad you like it though! I do use Pro Tools, I have other programs but I prefer pro tools cause I figure it's industry pushed.
chuckawobbly 1 year ago
@RedVynil I took a class on ProTools a few years ago in a studio built specifically for ProTools. (Amazingly, even though it was one of the most well-known computer schools (CMU), they lost EVERYONE'S class project!!) Shortly after that, I bought a copy of Magix Audio Cleaner and have using that ever since to edit music. It's slightly similar to ProTools, but is only two channels. I've still been able to do some incredible edits on it.
RedVynil 1 year ago
@RedVynil
Two channels? Or two tracks?
My college primarily uses pro tools as well, however apart from the basics I am pretty much self taught.
chuckawobbly 1 year ago
@chuckawobbly Two tracks. Normally, I just work in one, but if I want to crossfade or do special edits or even have two sounds running side by side, I can split into two tracks. I can also split it into two channel stereo then split that into two tracks! I can usually find ways to do what I want to do even with only two tracks!
25 years ago, I recorded a piece using only my synth and two 2-track recording decks, neither had simul-sync! But I was able to record 9 channels on a 2-track tape!
RedVynil 1 year ago
@RedVynil
ha! not bad, not bad!
I am that new-age guy where I cannot do anything with less than 24 tracks. I can't even record drums with less than 12! And I usually take up 4-8 (mics) when tracking guitars. 32 tracks vocal harmonies, 4 (mics) acoustics. But I D.I bass, haha.
chuckawobbly 1 year ago
@chuckawobbly I used to intern running sound at a local venue for mostly smaller international acts, they probably couldn't fill an arena, but had an international fan base. I would usually give the trap cymbals and each drum their own mic and have 2 overheads. Part of this comes from me having a 12-piece set and CONSTANTLY running into sound men that only had 3 to 5 drum mics!! This REALLY sucks because I have ALWAYS had two bass drums and they'd only have 1 bass mic!!...if I was LUCKY!!!!
RedVynil 1 year ago
@RedVynil
I was talking about live drum miking to my live sound lecturer just last week, he has miked up an entire kit of three toms, kick snare, hats crash and ryde with just three mics. One of the kick, and two omni-mics in some configuration (I forget which one) that worked to pick the snare and toms up. Small venues you don't really need overheads, unless its a large place with like 200+ people,
chuckawobbly 1 year ago
@chuckawobbly The Graffiti was a big room. I ran sound there for Joydrop, Julian Lennon, Johnny Winter, and Todd Rundgren. The 1st time EVER even ATTEMPTED to run lights was for Adran Belew!! It used to be a car showroom of some sort.
Yeah, you can mic an entire set, depending on what equipment you're using, with 2 or 3 mics. One of the 1st times recorded in a pro studio, I used the house drums, a large set, 2 basses, & they used 3 mics! 2 overheads & a PZM on the wall. A bit muddy, but good.
RedVynil 1 year ago
I think the keyboard and one of the acoustic guitars is a touch out of tune, too. Nice song, though. Did you slow the bass down to get that deeper sound? It's pretty cool! Personally, as a drummer, I'd use a different cymbal sound, too. It's too harsh, sharp and crass sounding. Plus, it's way over-used. I have at least 6 cymbals in my set, so I hit different ones instead of the same one all the time, except for songs like, "We're Not Animals" and, "Another Day In The Compound", that need it.
RedVynil 1 year ago
don't let me get ya down, but something is way out of tune and your timing needs to be honed. other than that, I like your style. Simple yet effective.
jtmagicman25 2 years ago
It's the bass, its a crappy cheap bass that got handed down to me well over 10 years ago. I have recently redone the bass with new strings on it, its a huge improvement, but I cbf uploading it.
chuckawobbly 2 years ago