how do we know these pics arent fake, especially since they didnt release them until around 24 hours after they were taken. they were not immediately released like all the others. america lies about every war theyve ever been involved with. why trust them at all when the military is involved? only a moron would trust the american government, which seems to be the case given their educational statistics. neil and buzz were airplane pilots, nothing else. get over it and collapse already america!
@hunchbacked You just can't help it, can you? Obviously you have some deep seated need to spread your moon hoax bullshit in the comments section of every version of this video posted here on YouTube.
It has the same color on the surface as a little deeper.
The wheels may make a print in the lunar dust, but this print will be the same color as the dust on the surface.
When you are close you can see the relief of the tracks, but, when you are far, you see nothing, you can't see the relief of the tracks from this distance.
@hunchbacked Interesting logic. Might be true; IF the images were taken from directly overhead at "high noon"local time (the Sun directly "behind" the sensor). But with any angularity of either, you'd see shadow from the relief. Also the compression of the dust by the mass of the passing wheel alters it's reflectivity. Thank goodness there ISN'T any liquid water...or these tracks from 42 years ago would be neither so pristine nor so obvious.
@hunchbacked Of *course* it doesn't look "natural"! Your idea of what's "natural" is based on a lifetime of living on the earth, with an atmosphere, rain, wind, erosion, life, all those things. The moon is an utterly alien place, and a lot of things are different. That's why it looks so different.
If you consider the photos of the missions serious (which I don't), I'll take an example: Consider the photo AS17-137-2011; we see the rover in the distance, but it is taken closer than the LRO photos.
Can you see the rover tracks as grey lines over a clearer ground?
@hunchbacked Yes you certainly can see 'em. In all of the A-17 photos. [Try AS17-137-20876, or any other.] Likewise in those of prior missions back to A-14 (first one with a wheeled cart, though it wasn't powered). When you find yourself going to extraordinary complexity, or fear of conspiracy, to explain simple phenomena, you're generally barking up the wrong tree. You're totally welcome to to so, of course. But, honestly; they went. All else is self-serving grandiosity.
you can see them as two parallel (not always parallel) lines; between the lines, the ground is clear; when these lines are seen from far, they become invisible, two small to be seen.
On the photos, the lander is very small, and, at the scale of the lander, these lines are much thinner, too thin not to even represent a pixel on the photo.
Moreover, the ground seems too slimy, has the kind of structure it would have on earth and not on the moon.
@hunchbacked You're clearly smart. And a questioning spirit is the very foundation of science. So here's the thing: Your common sense isn't common to the Moon. Your intuition developed on the water-rich, one gravity Earth. The lunar regolith (surface dust) is extremely fine-grained, very sharp and jagged. It sticks to and gets into everything. The Apollo guys commented on this in real time (I heard them). It behaves more like wet cornstarch than any sand you know. Think about this.
@hunchbacked Really? Ever use a telescope with a digital camera? See any stars? Except for the sun, every one of them is far smaller than a pixel, yet you can certainly see them and photograph them.
So, the width of a track left by a tire is theoretically: 35*0.25/0.4=0.93 pixel, so less than a pixel.
Yet, the same tracks appear on the photo with a width of several pixels, I would say something like 10 pixels (difficult to appreciate exactly, but consistently more than one pixel).
These lines would rather correspond with the total width of the rover, like the space between the tracks of the tires was also dark; but it isn't on the photos of the missions!
@hunchbacked We applaud your method. But take it all the way: Consider the grey-scale of a single pixel containing some darkened information from shadows in two sets of rover tracks. Now compare that to the grey-scale of an adjacent pixel which contains no "track" information at all. There's your answer.
I'll make a demonstration with the lander, the rover, and the tracks all correctly scaled, and I'll reduce to the scale we see on the photos to show the problem.
The rover tracks should not be visible, not as consistently visible as what we see on the photos.
@hunchbacked Except that you're wrong, as usual. The undisturbed dust on the lunar surface is a little darker than the dust underneath; that's the effect of millions of years of "space weathering" from constant micrometeroid bombardment.
@alexsworld11 No. There was supposed to be a real Apollo 18, but President Nixon ordered NASA's budget cut to prevent it from flying. The movie is a fun plot, but totally fiction.
To prove a fake landing, they make a fake video after the fake photos are questioned by conspiracy theorists. Maybe in some 10yrs, with better technology, we can find that this video too has been faked!!
Its looks fake to me, lol. If google earth can take much clearer pictures from space to earth, which is alot further distance than the orbiter is to the moon, how come the pictures look like crap? I was dissapointed. I would like to believe we actually went to the moon but this doesnt help. Im just saying, they have better technology to take pictures from of the moon, and they show us this junk. Whoo hoo :(
@kyamicobo No, "they" don't. [They is you, by the way, if you're American, European, Canadian, Russian or Japanese.] Google Earth uses many different image sets, taken over a period of tears from satellites, aircraft and ground vehicles. These images are from one science probe in lunar orbit which hasn't been there very long. Sure, the military intel community has access to orbiting cameras that are probably an order of magnitude or so better. But there are no spy satellites orbiting the Moon.
@VideoFromSpace "They" (NASA) Need to invest in sending some spy satellites to the moon. Cant they afford to send at least one spy satellite to the moon to take some good pictures. I mean, if it really is that important to them they would have by now. But Noooo. Whoo hoo :(
@kyamicobo Well, NASA's not a spy agency. You don't pay "them" to do that. You pay NRO, or CIA, or DHS... And, actually, the NASA image quality is amazing; a bit like finding your parked SUV and show-shoe tracks amid all of Antarctica.
@kyamicobo "Cant they afford to send at least one spy satellite to the moon to take some good pictures. I mean, if it really is that important to them...."
I think you'll find that it just ISN'T that important to NASA that conspiracy theorists believe that Apollo was real. They just don't take those guys seriously - and why would they? Think about it. Apollo was carried out in the full gaze of the world's media. (cont).
Apollo's reality is accepted without question by the world's scientific and academic communities. Meanwhile a relatively small group of "internet warriors" with little or no relevant credentials think that they have spotted a evidence of fakery where the world's experts have not?
@kyamicobo yup classic case of rejective reasoning, a new term i coined for people who will never believe any evidence of the moon landing, thing 100 moves ahead you guys will say the future landings are fake as well.. no evidence will satisfy you you are just sayin new evidence will satisfy you but truth is you are hardened enough to simply relish on the other side of the hoax issue.
What ever! The dust they kicked up was not visible in any of their photos. IE: on the landing feet ect. What did they do clean off the lem before taking pics. BS
@GuyFromCoby0:28 oh, computer generated. I'm sure the rest of the images are computer generated too. Heck, it all looks like a video game. Is that guy talking even a real person? The jig is up NASA!
@zassounotsukushi Explain what? It speaks for itself. Those images are sad. They prove absolutely nothing. We have cameras here on earth that can take a more clear picture. You're telling me that a probe, orbiting the moon can only produce a FIFTEEN MILE HIGH PHOTO? Did you just get your computer 21 hours ago? If you want to believe the lie, great. Don't ridicule others who know 100% that those photos are frauds. We won't ridicule you for your unwavering belief in known liars, thieves and fraud
LRO was not sent to the Moon to image the Apollo sites to prove the moonlandings. Imaging them was just a sideline, a bonus of it's main mission. In fact, it is not even mentioned in a list of some half dozen LRO Mission Objectives.
Those objectives centred around mapping the whole surface (in greater detail than had been done previously) as a precursor to future landings, not in imaging small areas to ultra high res.
@godbluffvdgg The LRO images of the Apollo sites are superb, given the equipment used.
Yes they COULD have aquired much better resolution images IF they had sent a heavy, expensive, miltary spysat grade imaging system all the way to the moon - BUT WHY WOULD THEY?
The mission is done to a budget. Can you imagine the outcry from taxpayers and their representatives if NASA had said they were adding several hundred million $ to the budget just to get cooler pictures of the Apollo sites?
Piss Poor.....
oneblueorange 1 month ago
GREAT!
dansing124 1 month ago
how do we know these pics arent fake, especially since they didnt release them until around 24 hours after they were taken. they were not immediately released like all the others. america lies about every war theyve ever been involved with. why trust them at all when the military is involved? only a moron would trust the american government, which seems to be the case given their educational statistics. neil and buzz were airplane pilots, nothing else. get over it and collapse already america!
MrToiletface 2 months ago
@MrToiletface You sure?
VideoFromSpace 2 months ago
@VideoFromSpace
This is absolutely ridiculous, because neither the lander nor the rover tracks can appear like they do on the photos.
And, oh surprise, if I record the image files on my disk and I check their headers, they all bear the signature of Adobe photoshop.
hunchbacked 6 days ago
@hunchbacked You just can't help it, can you? Obviously you have some deep seated need to spread your moon hoax bullshit in the comments section of every version of this video posted here on YouTube.
GoneToPlaid 6 days ago
@hunchbacked Why can't they. Please explain.
VideoFromSpace 6 days ago
@VideoFromSpace
Because, on the moon, there is no water.
Therefore the lunar dust is uniform.
It has the same color on the surface as a little deeper.
The wheels may make a print in the lunar dust, but this print will be the same color as the dust on the surface.
When you are close you can see the relief of the tracks, but, when you are far, you see nothing, you can't see the relief of the tracks from this distance.
hunchbacked 5 days ago
@hunchbacked Interesting logic. Might be true; IF the images were taken from directly overhead at "high noon"local time (the Sun directly "behind" the sensor). But with any angularity of either, you'd see shadow from the relief. Also the compression of the dust by the mass of the passing wheel alters it's reflectivity. Thank goodness there ISN'T any liquid water...or these tracks from 42 years ago would be neither so pristine nor so obvious.
VideoFromSpace 5 days ago
@VideoFromSpace
Shadow from the relief?
The shaded part is not important, it does not cover the whole track; it is not visible from far.
I could take as a comparison jeep tracks in the sahara.
You can see them close, not far; they don't appear as dark or grey lines.
And, if you take as a reference the photos of the mission, the tracks don't appear that deep (anyway the photos of the missions are BS).
hunchbacked 5 days ago
@VideoFromSpace
And on the photos of the mission, the ground is obviously kind of muddy, it looks irrealistic.
It does not look natural.
hunchbacked 5 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@hunchbacked Of *course* it doesn't look "natural"! Your idea of what's "natural" is based on a lifetime of living on the earth, with an atmosphere, rain, wind, erosion, life, all those things. The moon is an utterly alien place, and a lot of things are different. That's why it looks so different.
ApolloWasReal 4 days ago
@VideoFromSpace
If you consider the photos of the missions serious (which I don't), I'll take an example: Consider the photo AS17-137-2011; we see the rover in the distance, but it is taken closer than the LRO photos.
Can you see the rover tracks as grey lines over a clearer ground?
No, you can't.
Explain me that?
hunchbacked 5 days ago
@hunchbacked Yes you certainly can see 'em. In all of the A-17 photos. [Try AS17-137-20876, or any other.] Likewise in those of prior missions back to A-14 (first one with a wheeled cart, though it wasn't powered). When you find yourself going to extraordinary complexity, or fear of conspiracy, to explain simple phenomena, you're generally barking up the wrong tree. You're totally welcome to to so, of course. But, honestly; they went. All else is self-serving grandiosity.
VideoFromSpace 5 days ago
@VideoFromSpace
you can see them as two parallel (not always parallel) lines; between the lines, the ground is clear; when these lines are seen from far, they become invisible, two small to be seen.
On the photos, the lander is very small, and, at the scale of the lander, these lines are much thinner, too thin not to even represent a pixel on the photo.
Moreover, the ground seems too slimy, has the kind of structure it would have on earth and not on the moon.
hunchbacked 5 days ago
@VideoFromSpace
You really happy to believe in the Apollo BS; personally I can't, it hurts my common sense.
hunchbacked 5 days ago
@hunchbacked You're clearly smart. And a questioning spirit is the very foundation of science. So here's the thing: Your common sense isn't common to the Moon. Your intuition developed on the water-rich, one gravity Earth. The lunar regolith (surface dust) is extremely fine-grained, very sharp and jagged. It sticks to and gets into everything. The Apollo guys commented on this in real time (I heard them). It behaves more like wet cornstarch than any sand you know. Think about this.
VideoFromSpace 5 days ago
@VideoFromSpace
What makes stick on earth is water; this is what causes the adherence.
Without water, there is no adherence.
Whatever, the lines of the tracks have the width of a tire and not of the rover; they are too thin to be seen from that distance.
You can't see something which is smaller than a pixel.
hunchbacked 5 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@hunchbacked Really? Ever use a telescope with a digital camera? See any stars? Except for the sun, every one of them is far smaller than a pixel, yet you can certainly see them and photograph them.
ApolloWasReal 4 days ago
@VideoFromSpace
I have made calculations on a LRO photo the one with the reference M109032389LE
I have taken a window enclosing the whole lander with all its footpads; it was a window 35*33; we'll say 35 pixels.
Between two opposite foodpads, there was 9.4 meters.
The width a a tire was, according to the documentation, 22.96 centimers; we'll say 25 centimeters.
hunchbacked 5 days ago
@VideoFromSpace
So, the width of a track left by a tire is theoretically: 35*0.25/0.4=0.93 pixel, so less than a pixel.
Yet, the same tracks appear on the photo with a width of several pixels, I would say something like 10 pixels (difficult to appreciate exactly, but consistently more than one pixel).
hunchbacked 5 days ago
@VideoFromSpace
These lines would rather correspond with the total width of the rover, like the space between the tracks of the tires was also dark; but it isn't on the photos of the missions!
hunchbacked 5 days ago
@hunchbacked We applaud your method. But take it all the way: Consider the grey-scale of a single pixel containing some darkened information from shadows in two sets of rover tracks. Now compare that to the grey-scale of an adjacent pixel which contains no "track" information at all. There's your answer.
VideoFromSpace 5 days ago
@VideoFromSpace
That would make only one pixel, not several pixels!
hunchbacked 5 days ago
@hunchbacked Think: scatter.
VideoFromSpace 5 days ago
@VideoFromSpace
Scatttering does not explain what we see.
I'll make a demonstration with the lander, the rover, and the tracks all correctly scaled, and I'll reduce to the scale we see on the photos to show the problem.
The rover tracks should not be visible, not as consistently visible as what we see on the photos.
hunchbacked 5 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@hunchbacked Except that you're wrong, as usual. The undisturbed dust on the lunar surface is a little darker than the dust underneath; that's the effect of millions of years of "space weathering" from constant micrometeroid bombardment.
ApolloWasReal 4 days ago
@MrToiletface Did you stop your meds?
MyAccount4TrollingU 1 month ago
Great video. Where you at deadJesus100 et al? Pissing on yourself? Your mom?
superchitownhustler 3 months ago
nice posting amazing to see the landing sites after such a long time
johnredpath 3 months ago
πουτσες blue !!!!!!!
necromantiac666 5 months ago
ws apollo 18 an accual secret mission sent to the moon?
alexsworld11 5 months ago in playlist More videos from VideoFromSpace
@alexsworld11 No. There was supposed to be a real Apollo 18, but President Nixon ordered NASA's budget cut to prevent it from flying. The movie is a fun plot, but totally fiction.
VideoFromSpace 5 months ago
At :44 , the picture looks like Buckwheat.
tryithere 5 months ago
My "jaw also dropped to the ground" due to all of the BS and ROCKS I saw! Sorry dude, you can see NOTHING but rocks!
MrTerrificII 5 months ago
@MrTerrificII Look again.
VideoFromSpace 5 months ago
Is der any video to prove the trajectory of less exposure from Radiation belt for apollo 11 crew??
aerofreakingy 5 months ago
To prove a fake landing, they make a fake video after the fake photos are questioned by conspiracy theorists. Maybe in some 10yrs, with better technology, we can find that this video too has been faked!!
RobinRichardRajan 5 months ago 2
@RobinRichardRajan You're father should have faked it.
tryithere 5 months ago
@tryithere Your father should have faked it.
tryithere 5 months ago
show me one proof its a real moon!!
aerofreakingy 5 months ago
Its looks fake to me, lol. If google earth can take much clearer pictures from space to earth, which is alot further distance than the orbiter is to the moon, how come the pictures look like crap? I was dissapointed. I would like to believe we actually went to the moon but this doesnt help. Im just saying, they have better technology to take pictures from of the moon, and they show us this junk. Whoo hoo :(
kyamicobo 5 months ago 2
@kyamicobo True, we can see a license plate from space, but we cant even see a clear picture of the moon surface. Smells funny to me too.
TheApinator 5 months ago
@TheApinator I though it was the smell on an unwashed tinfoil hat.
dotaonline 5 months ago
@kyamicobo No, "they" don't. [They is you, by the way, if you're American, European, Canadian, Russian or Japanese.] Google Earth uses many different image sets, taken over a period of tears from satellites, aircraft and ground vehicles. These images are from one science probe in lunar orbit which hasn't been there very long. Sure, the military intel community has access to orbiting cameras that are probably an order of magnitude or so better. But there are no spy satellites orbiting the Moon.
VideoFromSpace 5 months ago 11
@VideoFromSpace "They" (NASA) Need to invest in sending some spy satellites to the moon. Cant they afford to send at least one spy satellite to the moon to take some good pictures. I mean, if it really is that important to them they would have by now. But Noooo. Whoo hoo :(
kyamicobo 5 months ago
@kyamicobo Well, NASA's not a spy agency. You don't pay "them" to do that. You pay NRO, or CIA, or DHS... And, actually, the NASA image quality is amazing; a bit like finding your parked SUV and show-shoe tracks amid all of Antarctica.
VideoFromSpace 5 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@kyamicobo "Cant they afford to send at least one spy satellite to the moon to take some good pictures. I mean, if it really is that important to them...."
I think you'll find that it just ISN'T that important to NASA that conspiracy theorists believe that Apollo was real. They just don't take those guys seriously - and why would they? Think about it. Apollo was carried out in the full gaze of the world's media. (cont).
eventcone 5 months ago
@kyamicobo (cont).
Apollo's reality is accepted without question by the world's scientific and academic communities. Meanwhile a relatively small group of "internet warriors" with little or no relevant credentials think that they have spotted a evidence of fakery where the world's experts have not?
eventcone 5 months ago
@eventcone It makes them feel like they are important. Like they are smarter then everybody else but they are just delusional idiots.
tryithere 5 months ago
@kyamicobo yup classic case of rejective reasoning, a new term i coined for people who will never believe any evidence of the moon landing, thing 100 moves ahead you guys will say the future landings are fake as well.. no evidence will satisfy you you are just sayin new evidence will satisfy you but truth is you are hardened enough to simply relish on the other side of the hoax issue.
nakazatoGTR 5 months ago
@kyamicobo Then try this: watch?v=ul87ieOZpaQ
occhamite 5 months ago
@kyamicobo u r the biggest retard on yt, i hope something bad happens 2 u
1234doawee 2 months ago
lets hack nasa
xD
XzZyBiT 5 months ago
@XzZyBiT Please don't. Harness your adolescent energy to better purpose.
VideoFromSpace 5 months ago
What ever! The dust they kicked up was not visible in any of their photos. IE: on the landing feet ect. What did they do clean off the lem before taking pics. BS
shaggietrip 5 months ago
Comment removed
shaggietrip 5 months ago
Pollution on the moon!
Kargoneth 5 months ago
Didnt NASA invent photoshop.
gofigurevideos 5 months ago 3
@gofigurevideos No. Nor did they perform the alien autopsy.
VideoFromSpace 5 months ago 3
@gofigurevideos No.
pt1qard 2 months ago
Now I'm wondering: how are the moon landing conspiracy people going to explain THAT?
zassounotsukushi 5 months ago
@zassounotsukushi Images were taken from NASA, thus they can fake these images.
(lols).
GuyFromCoby 5 months ago
@GuyFromCoby 0:28 oh, computer generated. I'm sure the rest of the images are computer generated too. Heck, it all looks like a video game. Is that guy talking even a real person? The jig is up NASA!
zassounotsukushi 5 months ago
@zassounotsukushi Hahaha +1.
GuyFromCoby 5 months ago
@zassounotsukushi Explain what? It speaks for itself. Those images are sad. They prove absolutely nothing. We have cameras here on earth that can take a more clear picture. You're telling me that a probe, orbiting the moon can only produce a FIFTEEN MILE HIGH PHOTO? Did you just get your computer 21 hours ago? If you want to believe the lie, great. Don't ridicule others who know 100% that those photos are frauds. We won't ridicule you for your unwavering belief in known liars, thieves and fraud
godbluffvdgg 5 months ago
@godbluffvdgg Here's how it is:
LRO was not sent to the Moon to image the Apollo sites to prove the moonlandings. Imaging them was just a sideline, a bonus of it's main mission. In fact, it is not even mentioned in a list of some half dozen LRO Mission Objectives.
Those objectives centred around mapping the whole surface (in greater detail than had been done previously) as a precursor to future landings, not in imaging small areas to ultra high res.
eventcone 5 months ago
@godbluffvdgg The LRO images of the Apollo sites are superb, given the equipment used.
Yes they COULD have aquired much better resolution images IF they had sent a heavy, expensive, miltary spysat grade imaging system all the way to the moon - BUT WHY WOULD THEY?
The mission is done to a budget. Can you imagine the outcry from taxpayers and their representatives if NASA had said they were adding several hundred million $ to the budget just to get cooler pictures of the Apollo sites?
eventcone 5 months ago
first :D
akshaydude1 5 months ago