@myspam512 i was referring to the fact that most if not all MMA fighters look like they fight the dame way no matter what style they say they use, ive never seen any capoeria fighter fight with capoeria and if they do its with week fundamentals and more wrestling then anything else, the fact is many if not all the fighters use either wrestling or boxing in their fighting when it comes down to it, it all looks like one style MMA (which i know is not a style you fuck tard)
@91aztecking well excuse me for falsely thinking that when you said "lame MMA, the worst fighting style ever!" you were referring to MMA as a fighting style, who in the right mind would draw that assumption?
wing chun is awesome and amazing but you dont see it in this vid ha but anyway there quick speed and counter that they have is awesome. i would pick wing chun over anything just to show people that it can stand up to muay thai and all the rest of the martial arts out there.
Wing Chun is a really good martial art, but in this day and age, wing chun by itself is kinda useless, then again depends who you're fighting, MMA is the way to go and Im not saying you should take up muay thai and BJJ, all Im saying is, if you want your bridge to hold up you need several foundations to keep it up instead of one. Im senior level wing chun, 1 year of muay thai and 3 years of Judo and BJJ
man i wish there was one good actual professional fight with good wing chun and muay thai please link one if u know and not cat fights and not any from movies thanks guys!
this is not Wing Chun or even Muay Thai. retarded busters. And to EdHardi3 u r a dumb fag u know that. Wing Chun is not for movie n looks, its real. One of the best Gung Fu. Yep Gung Fu not Kung Fu. MMA dudes can't stand up to it. Never. Wing Chun is a close combat. Check ur source, experience then talk. FAG.
@cheshirepat30 wing chun doesent work by itself like most arts but there are aspects of it that work. anderson silva uses wing chun trapping in some of his fights.
@KayTeamLegit you're comparing a tazer to a baseballbat. Apples to oranges. WC =/= MMA. Also, what happens when someone learns multiple martial arts including Wing Chun? They're still Mixed Martial Artists. I'm one of them. You saying that me, someone who knows wing chun technique and applications of six other styles, is no match for someone who only uses WC? WC is street self defense, protecting your life. MMA can be used that way, but its best for fitness and aggression. VERY different.
jus one this there is no real or fake martial artist.
If you have a passion for fighting and practice fighting and believe it to be a form of self expression. Then you ARE a martial artist if you dont then your not nuff said.
and pride 2nd ufc has the best fighters, (except allistair overeem) but in ufc certain positions you cant knee to the head on the ground, so its more usa wrestling based than true mma, which is conveneint for a country that has wrestling throughout school
(Real) martial artists are smart guys - they avoid actual fighting because they dont want to get beat to a bloody pulp by all the fake martial artists like the guys in this video...the guys who ACTUALLY HAVE THE BALLS TO FIGHT.
(Real) martial artists avoid these guys in the video like the plague because they dont want to get beat by (fake) martial artist.
Those (real) martial artists are (really) smart, arent they!
@MrChumFm It's actually not very hard for somebody with that kind of competition co-ordination to change their thigh kick into something that will smash a knee joint, change that punch in the jaw to a punch in the throat or take that armbar all the way to snap their elbow and despite the rules sooner or later everyone cops one in the nuts, you learn to keep them covered as best you can, just in case.
@BootyBot full contact martial arts tournaments have existed for thousands of years. There were full contact kung fu competitions in china, muy thai in thailand, pancration in greece, and full contact karate tournaments in Japan, and samurai duels to the death. These fights get stopped before anyone gets seriously hurt or killed it was not always that way. If anything this is a step down from how things really were.
@teslic100 martial arts are used in mma lmao. muy thai and bjj are martial arts. just because there are competitions designed around martial arts does not mean they are not using martial arts. using that logic I can go to a karate competition and say none of them are martial artists because they have rules.
its called vale tudo dipshit, tryna get views for when ppl see two different styles of fighting that are more recognized than vale tudo makes you a stupid fuck...a stupid fuck with over a million views so hey, heres 5 cents.
how is this wing chun? a maxim of wing chun is elbows in, without thats most of the techniques are useless, and these guys are swinging haymakers? unless you wanna call it 'bong punch', (which it isn't) this isn't wing chun. it's just guys fighting.
everybody is talking like this is no real fight and they are punching wrong but in reality cagefighting is the closest thing too a real fight and things like tkd and shit just dont work in a real fight and if it does step into the cage and prove it.its not about if you punch perfect its about who wins and still stand at the end.
Gung Fu, if applied correctly, does work in a real fight. Living proof. The average person in a street fight can't fight for shit. therefore any1 with substantial training will usually leave victorious. I don't really like the concepts of tae kwon do but do appreciate their kicks. Im more of a JKD - Jun Fan Gung Fu martial artist. There are three of the many arts and philosophies combined in JKD that I find to be the perfect combination: Muay Thai, Wing Chun and BJJ. JKD 4Life!
@stLJett you could be right, but my comment was too guys that keep saying he punshes like shit ,and ufc guys dont hit proper then i think these guys are world champions that are champions in a style verry close too real fighting.it is not about the style but about the athlete ore person that uses the style .pease.
I agree with KungFuKid, like at 00:33 that's not how we were taught to strike in Taekwondo. Your arm moves straight, with full hip rotation. Sure, there is a hook punch in TKD, but what I see here is more like an arc punch, like a hay bailing punch. Could be boxing, but not really martial arts.
Why do I need to be a soldier, a police officer or a security guard when I can earn much better than these jobs? What you are saying is using martial arts as a weapon to suppress the others and to hurt others. If you understand about our culture, the development of Chinese martial arts and the ethics of martial arts, you'll find that this clip has nothing gotta do with martial arts but rather about just thrashing each other around.
all mma guys are wanna be pretty boys who think there some sort of fighting god. True martial arts masters come in the form of bruce lee, carl gracie and chunk norris... well maybe
@firebladenut cage fighting was bruce lees dream tho and bruce lee is the pretty boy of martial arts not the master or even close to the best just the best on tv so just a little contradiction m8
@firebladenut Bruce lee fought in a predecessor of mma, free style. he fought show fights all over the world against boxers, savatours, other kung fu practitioners etc.
The way they are beating each other to the point of drawing blood, when it is just sparring, that is not a spiritually or morally good use of martial arts. True Wing Chun people would not do this, they must be MMA jocks.
@neutrino78x Martial arts were not intended for spirituality. They were originally intended to teach individuals how to kill other people. Right back to the shaolin monks. "Spirituality" is the laymans term for the psychological metamorphosis that some people experience through their training, it is was a side effect of the training, not its original intent. Morality does not come into it, that is a social construct. These men are athletes, this is a sport.
@ToraJutsu01 "Right back to the shaolin monks. " <--- you do realize that shaolin monks were MONKS, right??? As in, deeply spiritual people??? So why are you claiming that shaolin kung fu was not about spirituality??? try shaolin,org/shaolin/greatest,html (replace the commas with periods)
@neutrino78x No kidding mate and why do you think they learnt martial arts? so they could dance around in pyjamas? NO! So that when they were attacked they could defend themselves. The shaolin became so renouned for their combative prowess that they even stormed castles. Of course they intwined it with there spirituality, but that was a by product, not the original purpose. And guess what, they would have used techniques very similar to mma. cos thats what violence looks like, just more brutal.
@ToraJutsu01 So that when they were attacked they could defend themselves. The shaolin became so renouned for their combative prowess that they even stormed castles. " <--- agree on this part. "Of course they intwined it with there spirituality, but that was a by product, not the original purpose." <--- no I think you have that backwards. Kung Fu was originally a physical expression of Shaolin Buddhism.
@ToraJutsu01 "And guess what, they would have used techniques very similar to mma. " <--- if by this you mean, they would have used both strikes and ground techniques, I agree, but every real martial art has both. (unless you count western combat techniques like western boxing as martial arts. I don't. A western martial art is Jeet Kune Do, invented by the American, Bruce Lee. boxing is just a combat technique.) but martial arts teaches compassion and control so it wouldn't be like this vid.
@neutrino78x What juvenile picture of combat do you have in your mind? stop watching kung fu films and go join the military. Go experience some reality kid. Martial arts only teach compassion and control as a result of reduced levels of violence being prevalent in day to day life, the idea that its better to win without fighting dates back thousands of years, to the author of the art of war, Sun Tzu, who was a taoistic scholar, general, and brutally effective warrior. broaden your mind mate.
@ToraJutsu01 I served on US Navy submarines 1999-2003. Submarine crews are considered elite units. traditional martial arts have always taught compassion and control, if you go to a traditional studio the first fighting method you will be taught is "run away". If what you're talking about came from the studio you went to, it is a bad studio imho. You should always use only the level of violence absolutely necessary to escape, and then walk away.
@neutrino78x I was taught compassion and control in every dojo, by every instructor. But i was also taught that reality does not always allow us to exercise these traits and that if you do need to fight, it will be messy. Cage fighting is one of the best ways to train for real combat, thats why the USMC use something similar to UFC style MMA now. Its not the best, but its good to teach en masse. The above is a sport, its base, masculine and lots of fun. I feel serene after a fight like that.
@ToraJutsu01 "So that when they were attacked they could defend themselves. The shaolin became so renouned for their combative prowess that they even stormed castles. " <-- agree with this part. "Of course they intwined it with there spirituality, but that was a by product, not the original purpose. " <--- no, I think you have that backwards. Shaolin Kung Fu, originally, was a physical application of Shaolin Buddhism. The ultimate form of Shaolin Kung Fu is Buddhist meditation.
damn the activities in this video are unsafe, use head and torso protection FFS!!! it is just sparring, you're not trying to actually kill the person! dang why don't they use protection in MMA???
@neutrino78x the way there not even wearing gloves makes it seem not even like a sport, but i doubt this would have been sparring i think this would have been a real fight, i think its wrong they way there not wearing gloves and it makes look very unproffesional
@jonrulezz- Yes it IS for GAYS, consider 2 big sweaty men rolling around on top of each other, hugging, slipping & grabbing one-an-others bodies, etc, etc
How does not everyone recognizes just how COMPLETELY HOMO MMA is?! It is a well established fact that in the gay community MMA is routinely used as homoerotic stimulation!
I mean, they might as well just get out the Anal-Eze & start fucking each other right up the ASS, film it all as PORN & just call it a day.....
This is the STUPIDEST thing I've ever seen! Is this really supposed to prove something... ANYTHING!?!? - brutal, undisciplined savagery/ NO rules, or art here, just completely GAY waste of time, PERIOD!
@sowhatdude1 I have to agree, and actually that is one of the reasons that made me decide to not to do Jiujitsu, Muay thai,and other competitive martial arts: The chances to get injured are big, especially if your adversary can't control his moves or is a fu***** bad boy trying to hurt everyone >:(
ps.: i'm NOT trying demote these arts, it's just my opinion of why I don't started to do them.
pss.: Congratulations to all serious professionals and students of ALL martial arts :)
@seusgordo ... Well I think YOU are a smart guy- MMA is always a SUCKERS bet! I think pretty much EVERYBODY gets hurt, it just comes down to how badly!
Going through life with knocked out teeth, missing an eye, scarred up- FOR WHAT!?!?
Martial arts, boxing, etc are all great to learn & know for discipline, focus, bodily & mental strength & good health in general.
It's also excellent to know you can protect yourself from a mugger, thief, etc. BUT MMA = STUPID, & that's a straight up FACT!
what sport is strongest between wing tsun vs Muay Thai? I want to know and start in the sport that is dangerous, I have an advantage has weak legs but the upper body fast, sooner walked in boxing for a year ago, which advantage has been in its sport and which should I choose? there is an advantage or disadvantage of anyone? I need something innate that longer legs or anything at to be aligned and have the advantage to any species? answer me privately or post comments
@blaggosphere It depends if you are good enough to keep someone from grappling and slamming you. If a striker...lets say a wing chun expert is fast and strong enough, they can dodge a tackle and attack without being taken down. Now, learning a form of ground-game is a better idea than learning just a striking art though. BJJ+Wing Chun=good.
@blaggosphere Thats only because of this UFC culture. Everyone thinks that this is the way to fight. And so, you have people who get into real street fights, go to the ground. Why, cause they can't fight! And the only way they can control a person is to take them to the ground, which in a REAL self-defense situation, can cause more problems than it prevents. The idea that 90% of all street fights end up on the ground is a cooked up lie and a dangerous assumption.
lofl at blaggispere lol from the beggining of street fights it was like that...its nature..in a fight someone aggressive might not stop hitting u when ur on the ground, mma teaches you to protect yourself the most....so there thats good for all you standing only fighters or talkers to take advantage of...like u said can cause more problems than it prevents but in reality its either his ass or yours!! u chose. im not hating on any sport..just being str8
@4deep81k Oh dude, I agree. It is his ass or yours. I do not disrespect groundfighting. There are plenty of ground techniques taught in Kungfu and Aikido, and other arts. I just don't think it is smart to rely on the groundfighting. Thats all.
Streetfights last about 30 seconds if that. Most are over in 1-3 hits. UFC is a sport, in real life you'll just get your head stampped on if you go down.
All these guys in the UFC and these cage matches that do all this groundfighting, have the WORST hand techniques I've ever seen! I mean come on, and they're professionals? No wonder they get taken to the ground so much. They can't punch worth a damn. Their elbows are out and they are punching like a bunch of schoolyard kids! No power! Oh so there is alittle blood! Boo hooo. It doesn't take much to get cut or have a bloddy lip or gum or nose. Don't mean shit. These guys need help!
@35503550 I'm sure it is hard to train for. But it seems that these guys only train good for groundfighting. Alot of these guys have sloppy hands. By that I mean, their elbows are out when they punch, which greatly reduces power. They are reaching with their punches, which puts their wieght forward, causing them to be off balance. I mean so many little things can change a fighter.
@hartergettobasti Ok, sure, why not. Lets all do shin kicks to the point that by the time we're all 30-35, we die because of blood clots in out legs. Yeah, lets do that! The only thing that Muay Tai is truely good at are the knees and elbows, which are used in Wing Chun and in almost every other martial art too. Why don;t you do some reading and know where I was comming from in the first place.
@KungFuKid1015 we see what hapopens when groundfighting takes over standing fights and dominates so it must be a field one should look into if they are gonna talk about bad hand technique...its a fight look at ur ass and 4get about technique...make sure ur endurance, and everything is in place and dont let the pressure get to your mind or gameplan wont work out....i give respect to any fighter even ufc fighters
@4deep81k Well sure endurance is important. If you can't last one or two rounds, you're screwed. I am just saying these guys could clean up some of their hand techniques, thats all.
@KungFuKid1015 You know what, you should ring them up and offer to teach them, correct their technique, i'm sure they'd be very greatful. Where is your gym located?
@ToraJutsu01 I am not an instructor. But the place I go to is in Blountville TN. We have had some MMA guys come down and work on their hand techniques. One of them, Anthony Boyd, just became pro, or is on his way to becomming pro. He came to the school and had a really good groundgame, but his hands were sloppy, like in here, he would be off balance and would throw haymakers. My instructor cleaned up his hands and now he is state champion. The school's site is on my channel.
@KungFuKid1015 Im surprised this comment has got 12 votes. I understand your point and partially you're right, but fighting in MMA or valetudo isnt the same as fighting in boxing or Muay Thai, a good example would be Kid Yamamoto, look at his stance or the punches he throws in training; You'll see that and just laugh, but this guy knocks you out with his fingertipp. Another good example is Jorge Masvidal, that guy is a genius in stance, look for him on youtube, youll have a lot to learn ! ;)
@KungFuKid1015 Some of the 'technique' problems you see with the hands could also have a lot to do with the dynamic changing when someone's actively resisting and trying their hardest to hit you at the same time? Just my own thought on the matter.
I agree that they have very little hand technique, but at the same time these type of fighters are trained differently than sum1 training in gung fu. these guys are trained to go for the ko or submission. their focus is less on the philosophy and more on battle. Bruce Lee said "do not think of the outcome of a fight", but most of these guys are thinking of that exactly. To Win. Just different thought process, different approach to fighting. Interesting to watch though. JKD 4Life
@Beraf2008 Thats what I've been saying. THis UFC stuff is entertainment. The fighters are slaves to the entertainment and sports industry. Thus being modern day gladiators. Just my opinion.
@Neooneson and out of those 1 million plus views, you were one of them. Dont act like you are better than everybody else. You saw the title of the video and was intrigued to see this "brutality" as you call it and yes brazilian jiu jitsu is a martial art form.
@callmeror Yes, BJJ IS a martial art form. But it is simply Judo renamed, with emphasis on groundfighting. What Neooneson is talking about, and I have to agree with him, is the culture of brutality and death. Just like the Roman empire, watching slaves fight to the death in gladitorial games, these fighters are slaves to the entertainment and sport industry. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out.
@Neooneson Absolutely right! This is just like the Roman Empire. Where slaves to the emperor would be forced to fight. Here, these fighters are slaves to the entertainment and sport industry. Thus being modern day gladiators. It IS a disgrace to martial arts. The attitude, the apparel, the money, the fame....what garbage. Our culture is completely obsessed with death and brutality. This is sickening!. Boxing at least is a decent art, although it too can get messy.
thats the foooooliest thing ever...so stupid ppl...no matter how good you are and how much fights you win...you always and i mean AAALWAYS find your teacher...and its gonna hurt...maybe for the rest of your life...what a waste..better be on crack
dude thats just plain martial arts hurting and getting hurt, if you are a true martial artist you should avoid fighting, unless itll give you like a lot of cash to go on ring : /
wtf is this....this is not even martial arts..there are wing chun or muay thai involved....this is just a brawl between guys who looks rippled...a master in wing chun will break these guys apart regardless how big they are.. wing chun attacks the centerline which disregards how much muscle you have
this is just fucking rats in a jar
rayfushgo 3 days ago
krypkeeper jus shut the fxxk up nd watch the video or get the fxxk outta here
MobbLivin509 2 weeks ago
bla, bla, bla
TheSito72 3 weeks ago
ну и где тут вин чун??? сливать такие видео на хрен
PeterWingChun 1 month ago
oh yeah totally wing chun.... not. just a bunch of meat head brawlers...
louidoggify 2 months ago
you think this is wing tsun?
sad...
MJChang91 2 months ago
lmfao.. this must be a troll vid. xD
dirint 2 months ago
Essa porra deve ser ilegal
Carta46 2 months ago 2
this is a bunch of roided guys with no technique that pays bills for their supplements and studios.
HazeNJuice 3 months ago
BetCris is a redneck jock who can't spell. moron
radiojustus 4 months ago
Simple title correction to this video is '' Vale Tudo ''
cleve101 4 months ago
This is Vale Tudo!!!!! Brazillian MMA whitout globes!!
BluelightningWolf9 5 months ago
Wing Chun? Have you ever seen real wing chun? I have found only 2 videos on youtube with real wing chun figth! Gues who is the winner!
MsFabulousguy 5 months ago
@MsFabulousguy Please!! send me those videos on Personal Message. I'd love to finally se anything that's suposivly "real wing chun"
Dabidabida 3 months ago
this isnt wing chun or muay tai this is just lame MMA, the worst fighting style ever!
91aztecking 5 months ago
@91aztecking first off you spelled THAI wrong you moron,
second off MMA isn't a "fighting style" you tool, it's a term which refers to the integration of Multiple fighting styles.
maybe you should know what the fuck you're talking about before you make ridiculous fraudulent claims like what the "worst fighting style ever" is
otherwise you just come off sounding like a dolt.
myspam512 5 months ago
@myspam512 i was referring to the fact that most if not all MMA fighters look like they fight the dame way no matter what style they say they use, ive never seen any capoeria fighter fight with capoeria and if they do its with week fundamentals and more wrestling then anything else, the fact is many if not all the fighters use either wrestling or boxing in their fighting when it comes down to it, it all looks like one style MMA (which i know is not a style you fuck tard)
91aztecking 5 months ago
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@91aztecking well excuse me for falsely thinking that when you said "lame MMA, the worst fighting style ever!" you were referring to MMA as a fighting style, who in the right mind would draw that assumption?
dude, you're seriously retarded.
myspam512 5 months ago
@91aztecking Who uses capoeira in MMA?
NShomebase 5 months ago
@NShomebase
watch?v=e0KfQE2-ZqA
Califacience 5 months ago
@Califacience An amateur?
NShomebase 5 months ago
wing chun is awesome and amazing but you dont see it in this vid ha but anyway there quick speed and counter that they have is awesome. i would pick wing chun over anything just to show people that it can stand up to muay thai and all the rest of the martial arts out there.
AdvisoryXLBeats 5 months ago
Wing Chun is a really good martial art, but in this day and age, wing chun by itself is kinda useless, then again depends who you're fighting, MMA is the way to go and Im not saying you should take up muay thai and BJJ, all Im saying is, if you want your bridge to hold up you need several foundations to keep it up instead of one. Im senior level wing chun, 1 year of muay thai and 3 years of Judo and BJJ
guns1312 6 months ago
Hhaha, wing chun wishes!
doucher0 6 months ago
R'TARDED!!!!!!!!!!!!
waraloga7x 6 months ago
man i wish there was one good actual professional fight with good wing chun and muay thai please link one if u know and not cat fights and not any from movies thanks guys!
sweetooth216 6 months ago
Check out Shawn Obasi
jorgebeltran 6 months ago
That's no brain
luuthaihung 6 months ago
this is not Wing Chun or even Muay Thai. retarded busters. And to EdHardi3 u r a dumb fag u know that. Wing Chun is not for movie n looks, its real. One of the best Gung Fu. Yep Gung Fu not Kung Fu. MMA dudes can't stand up to it. Never. Wing Chun is a close combat. Check ur source, experience then talk. FAG.
KayTeamLegit 6 months ago
@KayTeamLegit I have never seen any actual evidence that Wing Chun works except for maybe Shawn Obasi.
cheshirepat30 6 months ago
@cheshirepat30 wing chun doesent work by itself like most arts but there are aspects of it that work. anderson silva uses wing chun trapping in some of his fights.
BootyBot 6 months ago
@KayTeamLegit Hhaahaahahahahahaahahahahahahaahahahahahahaaha... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhhHhHhhhhhahahahhhhahaahaaaa!
doucher0 6 months ago
@KayTeamLegit you're comparing a tazer to a baseballbat. Apples to oranges. WC =/= MMA. Also, what happens when someone learns multiple martial arts including Wing Chun? They're still Mixed Martial Artists. I'm one of them. You saying that me, someone who knows wing chun technique and applications of six other styles, is no match for someone who only uses WC? WC is street self defense, protecting your life. MMA can be used that way, but its best for fitness and aggression. VERY different.
CommanderYuan 4 months ago
so...MMA before they had all the rules :P
oakTree1234 6 months ago
this is mixed martial arts i did wing chun but this is not wing chun i hate people do this shit
tyvonable 6 months ago
@tyvonable Ok thats cool but wing chun sucks its only good for the movie Ip man thats all! MMA would CRUSH wing fag chun.
EdHardi3 6 months ago
jus one this there is no real or fake martial artist.
If you have a passion for fighting and practice fighting and believe it to be a form of self expression. Then you ARE a martial artist if you dont then your not nuff said.
HariXretro 7 months ago
The MMA developed years ago, come back to this is the same that we come back to monkeys
alpjits 7 months ago
rio heroes is more true mma than the ufc
and pride 2nd ufc has the best fighters, (except allistair overeem) but in ufc certain positions you cant knee to the head on the ground, so its more usa wrestling based than true mma, which is conveneint for a country that has wrestling throughout school
eyewishwalrus 8 months ago
No (real) martial artist would do this kind of crap.
MrChumFm 8 months ago
@MrChumFm Because they would go to jail for murder.
HybridD91 8 months ago
@HybridD91 totally defeats the art in martial arts.
MrChumFm 8 months ago
@MrChumFm
Exactly.
(Real) martial artists never fight.
(Real) martial artists are smart guys - they avoid actual fighting because they dont want to get beat to a bloody pulp by all the fake martial artists like the guys in this video...the guys who ACTUALLY HAVE THE BALLS TO FIGHT.
(Real) martial artists avoid these guys in the video like the plague because they dont want to get beat by (fake) martial artist.
Those (real) martial artists are (really) smart, arent they!
SkemeKOS 7 months ago
@SkemeKOS this just takes the art out of martial arts. as well, martial artist use it as a self defense, not as a reason to beat someone to a pulp.
MrChumFm 7 months ago
@MrChumFm What do you think self defence is? You defend yourself from a pumelling by pumelling your aggressor.
psychedashell 7 months ago
@psychedashell exactly. but what is this, no kicking balls, no breaking joints? how can you defend yourself like that.
MrChumFm 7 months ago
@MrChumFm It's actually not very hard for somebody with that kind of competition co-ordination to change their thigh kick into something that will smash a knee joint, change that punch in the jaw to a punch in the throat or take that armbar all the way to snap their elbow and despite the rules sooner or later everyone cops one in the nuts, you learn to keep them covered as best you can, just in case.
psychedashell 7 months ago
@MrChumFm
Traditional martial arts take the MARTIAL out of martial arts.
I would rather the art be taken out than martial.
But anyway, youre COMPLETELY wrong.
This does NOT take the ART out of martial arts at all.
Try learning this stuff for yourself and you will prove to yourself that art is a VERY big part of it.
REAL fighting often looks messy to those who dont know what therye looking at.
SkemeKOS 7 months ago
barefist*
KUPHSER 8 months ago
this is mma, barfist. nothing more needs to be said
KUPHSER 8 months ago
mma= mixed martial arts...
they mix everything they see on different martial arts
without undersanding their fighting philosophy
and mix so a bloody salat together witch nobody wanna see...
mma isn´t a kind of martial arts..it´s just brutal bullshit for idiots....
20echris 8 months ago
@20echris
MMA is for REAL fight fans.
If you dont like MMA, then fighting is obviously not your thing.
Maybe you would be better off watching golf?
SkemeKOS 7 months ago
Very little Muoy Tai and no Wing Chun. Looks more like a street brawl.
TheDano1947 8 months ago
Very little Muoy Tai and no Wing Chun
TheDano1947 8 months ago
hapkido＝aikido
It is not Korean culture
niconicoid2 8 months ago
@niconicoid2
hapkido !＝ aikido
MadMAxx765 8 months ago
Two millenniums and these types of "sports" still exsist. Pathetic to say the least.
Beckis88 8 months ago
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Beckis88 8 months ago
isnt this illegal they dont even have hadwraps... theyr killing each other o_o........
tarziq 8 months ago
i like every martial art, but MMA and ValeTudo are no art. Just a dumb western barbarian shit...
MrZer000 9 months ago
@MrZer000 mma is martial arts genius. what do you think mma stands for?
BootyBot 8 months ago
@BootyBot I see you didnt get it... Its about the rules, genious...
MrZer000 8 months ago
@BootyBot full contact martial arts tournaments have existed for thousands of years. There were full contact kung fu competitions in china, muy thai in thailand, pancration in greece, and full contact karate tournaments in Japan, and samurai duels to the death. These fights get stopped before anyone gets seriously hurt or killed it was not always that way. If anything this is a step down from how things really were.
BootyBot 8 months ago
@BootyBot stands for mixed martial arts, though they train for sports conditions
thats why they have rules
which means that the name leads a false statement
teslic100 7 months ago
@teslic100 martial arts are used in mma lmao. muy thai and bjj are martial arts. just because there are competitions designed around martial arts does not mean they are not using martial arts. using that logic I can go to a karate competition and say none of them are martial artists because they have rules.
BootyBot 7 months ago
@BootyBot Mixed Martial Arts, actually
goliath6190 7 months ago
@goliath6190 exactly
BootyBot 7 months ago
@BootyBot MIXED martial arts
liverpoolkidchambers 6 months ago
@liverpoolkidchambers exactly
BootyBot 6 months ago
these fights are against humanity ,damn u all
1324mahyar 9 months ago
its called vale tudo dipshit, tryna get views for when ppl see two different styles of fighting that are more recognized than vale tudo makes you a stupid fuck...a stupid fuck with over a million views so hey, heres 5 cents.
MrGregbint 9 months ago
this is neither wing chun or muay thai you fucking retard. and you spelled "thai" wrong. once again. You're a fucking retard
krypekeeper 9 months ago 70
@krypekeeper fOOOck you! Are you an english teacher? go suck you faggot!
ALESETIMUS 8 months ago
@krypekeeper fuckin´what ??
Slik110 6 months ago
damn, at least wear some finger gloves. what are they, tryin to make a snuff film?
DillonDemas 10 months ago
how is this wing chun? a maxim of wing chun is elbows in, without thats most of the techniques are useless, and these guys are swinging haymakers? unless you wanna call it 'bong punch', (which it isn't) this isn't wing chun. it's just guys fighting.
t1mel1ne 10 months ago
everybody is talking like this is no real fight and they are punching wrong but in reality cagefighting is the closest thing too a real fight and things like tkd and shit just dont work in a real fight and if it does step into the cage and prove it.its not about if you punch perfect its about who wins and still stand at the end.
RuthlessViking1 11 months ago
@RuthlessViking1
Gung Fu, if applied correctly, does work in a real fight. Living proof. The average person in a street fight can't fight for shit. therefore any1 with substantial training will usually leave victorious. I don't really like the concepts of tae kwon do but do appreciate their kicks. Im more of a JKD - Jun Fan Gung Fu martial artist. There are three of the many arts and philosophies combined in JKD that I find to be the perfect combination: Muay Thai, Wing Chun and BJJ. JKD 4Life!
stLJett 10 months ago
@stLJett you could be right, but my comment was too guys that keep saying he punshes like shit ,and ufc guys dont hit proper then i think these guys are world champions that are champions in a style verry close too real fighting.it is not about the style but about the athlete ore person that uses the style .pease.
RuthlessViking1 10 months ago
I agree with KungFuKid, like at 00:33 that's not how we were taught to strike in Taekwondo. Your arm moves straight, with full hip rotation. Sure, there is a hook punch in TKD, but what I see here is more like an arc punch, like a hay bailing punch. Could be boxing, but not really martial arts.
neutrino78x 11 months ago
Why do I need to be a soldier, a police officer or a security guard when I can earn much better than these jobs? What you are saying is using martial arts as a weapon to suppress the others and to hurt others. If you understand about our culture, the development of Chinese martial arts and the ethics of martial arts, you'll find that this clip has nothing gotta do with martial arts but rather about just thrashing each other around.
chansk76 11 months ago
More disgusting than the blood or the violence is the sheer stupidity of the majority of comments on this video.
Martial artists: Violence is violent, get fucking used to it you deluded children.
Pacifists: Lifes a bitch, sometimes, you have to fuck it.
Arm chair warriors: Step into the fucking cage and throw down before you start giving advice to men who are out there doing it.
These comments epitomise stupidity and ignorance. Unfortunately there just isnt enough time to troll you all.
ToraJutsu01 11 months ago
lol they should learn how to punch...they punch as if they don't even have half the power they should have with all that muscle....
evothefool 1 year ago
i saw no wing chun or muay thai in this video
dc5Ace 1 year ago
@dc5Ace i think that the final kick was half muay thai :))
LordMordrag 1 year ago
QUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE LIXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !
bomzaoxxx 1 year ago
Do they get paid to fight, or do they pay to fight?
davidg1024 1 year ago
everyone shut up. theres no wing chun in here too, wtf
takemasu45 1 year ago
all mma guys are wanna be pretty boys who think there some sort of fighting god. True martial arts masters come in the form of bruce lee, carl gracie and chunk norris... well maybe
firebladenut 1 year ago
@firebladenut cage fighting was bruce lees dream tho and bruce lee is the pretty boy of martial arts not the master or even close to the best just the best on tv so just a little contradiction m8
garethio 1 year ago
@firebladenut Bruce lee fought in a predecessor of mma, free style. he fought show fights all over the world against boxers, savatours, other kung fu practitioners etc.
ToraJutsu01 11 months ago
The way they are beating each other to the point of drawing blood, when it is just sparring, that is not a spiritually or morally good use of martial arts. True Wing Chun people would not do this, they must be MMA jocks.
neutrino78x 1 year ago
@neutrino78x And my friend Angus isn't a True Scotsman.
callum828 1 year ago
@neutrino78x Martial arts were not intended for spirituality. They were originally intended to teach individuals how to kill other people. Right back to the shaolin monks. "Spirituality" is the laymans term for the psychological metamorphosis that some people experience through their training, it is was a side effect of the training, not its original intent. Morality does not come into it, that is a social construct. These men are athletes, this is a sport.
ToraJutsu01 11 months ago
@ToraJutsu01 "Right back to the shaolin monks. " <--- you do realize that shaolin monks were MONKS, right??? As in, deeply spiritual people??? So why are you claiming that shaolin kung fu was not about spirituality??? try shaolin,org/shaolin/greatest,html (replace the commas with periods)
neutrino78x 11 months ago
@neutrino78x No kidding mate and why do you think they learnt martial arts? so they could dance around in pyjamas? NO! So that when they were attacked they could defend themselves. The shaolin became so renouned for their combative prowess that they even stormed castles. Of course they intwined it with there spirituality, but that was a by product, not the original purpose. And guess what, they would have used techniques very similar to mma. cos thats what violence looks like, just more brutal.
ToraJutsu01 11 months ago
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@ToraJutsu01 So that when they were attacked they could defend themselves. The shaolin became so renouned for their combative prowess that they even stormed castles. " <--- agree on this part. "Of course they intwined it with there spirituality, but that was a by product, not the original purpose." <--- no I think you have that backwards. Kung Fu was originally a physical expression of Shaolin Buddhism.
neutrino78x 11 months ago
@ToraJutsu01 "And guess what, they would have used techniques very similar to mma. " <--- if by this you mean, they would have used both strikes and ground techniques, I agree, but every real martial art has both. (unless you count western combat techniques like western boxing as martial arts. I don't. A western martial art is Jeet Kune Do, invented by the American, Bruce Lee. boxing is just a combat technique.) but martial arts teaches compassion and control so it wouldn't be like this vid.
neutrino78x 11 months ago
@neutrino78x What juvenile picture of combat do you have in your mind? stop watching kung fu films and go join the military. Go experience some reality kid. Martial arts only teach compassion and control as a result of reduced levels of violence being prevalent in day to day life, the idea that its better to win without fighting dates back thousands of years, to the author of the art of war, Sun Tzu, who was a taoistic scholar, general, and brutally effective warrior. broaden your mind mate.
ToraJutsu01 11 months ago
@ToraJutsu01 I served on US Navy submarines 1999-2003. Submarine crews are considered elite units. traditional martial arts have always taught compassion and control, if you go to a traditional studio the first fighting method you will be taught is "run away". If what you're talking about came from the studio you went to, it is a bad studio imho. You should always use only the level of violence absolutely necessary to escape, and then walk away.
neutrino78x 11 months ago
@neutrino78x I was taught compassion and control in every dojo, by every instructor. But i was also taught that reality does not always allow us to exercise these traits and that if you do need to fight, it will be messy. Cage fighting is one of the best ways to train for real combat, thats why the USMC use something similar to UFC style MMA now. Its not the best, but its good to teach en masse. The above is a sport, its base, masculine and lots of fun. I feel serene after a fight like that.
ToraJutsu01 11 months ago
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@ToraJutsu01 "So that when they were attacked they could defend themselves. The shaolin became so renouned for their combative prowess that they even stormed castles. " <-- agree with this part. "Of course they intwined it with there spirituality, but that was a by product, not the original purpose. " <--- no, I think you have that backwards. Shaolin Kung Fu, originally, was a physical application of Shaolin Buddhism. The ultimate form of Shaolin Kung Fu is Buddhist meditation.
neutrino78x 11 months ago
wing chun? what the fuck they talking about? This is a cockfight, also because those guys probably have less neurons left than a chicken
protobuddha 1 year ago
i thought it was called wing chaun
stickypurps1 1 year ago
i dont see any wing chun or muay thai at all.. just some gay wrestling and punching
stockvangboi 1 year ago
this shit is badass! bare knuckles!!! ouch!!! i guess thats how they do it in Rio
cloud9flynsolo 1 year ago
damn the activities in this video are unsafe, use head and torso protection FFS!!! it is just sparring, you're not trying to actually kill the person! dang why don't they use protection in MMA???
neutrino78x 1 year ago
@neutrino78x the way there not even wearing gloves makes it seem not even like a sport, but i doubt this would have been sparring i think this would have been a real fight, i think its wrong they way there not wearing gloves and it makes look very unproffesional
barryhanlon94 1 year ago
My boy is leakin' lolololol
judutchinski 1 year ago
BJJ. Blow Jobs Jealousy .... so fucken gay
judutchinski 1 year ago
@judutchinski right
zhihuizeng 1 year ago
wing chun? That´s VALETUDO.....
isomack 1 year ago
dig his eye ..and ball he fuckthe up
MOVE32 1 year ago
MMA is for gays.
jonrulezz 1 year ago
@jonrulezz- Yes it IS for GAYS, consider 2 big sweaty men rolling around on top of each other, hugging, slipping & grabbing one-an-others bodies, etc, etc
How does not everyone recognizes just how COMPLETELY HOMO MMA is?! It is a well established fact that in the gay community MMA is routinely used as homoerotic stimulation!
I mean, they might as well just get out the Anal-Eze & start fucking each other right up the ASS, film it all as PORN & just call it a day.....
MMA = HOMO activity!
sowhatdude1 1 year ago
This is the STUPIDEST thing I've ever seen! Is this really supposed to prove something... ANYTHING!?!? - brutal, undisciplined savagery/ NO rules, or art here, just completely GAY waste of time, PERIOD!
sowhatdude1 1 year ago
@sowhatdude1 I have to agree, and actually that is one of the reasons that made me decide to not to do Jiujitsu, Muay thai,and other competitive martial arts: The chances to get injured are big, especially if your adversary can't control his moves or is a fu***** bad boy trying to hurt everyone >:(
ps.: i'm NOT trying demote these arts, it's just my opinion of why I don't started to do them.
pss.: Congratulations to all serious professionals and students of ALL martial arts :)
seusgordo 1 year ago
@seusgordo ... Well I think YOU are a smart guy- MMA is always a SUCKERS bet! I think pretty much EVERYBODY gets hurt, it just comes down to how badly!
Going through life with knocked out teeth, missing an eye, scarred up- FOR WHAT!?!?
Martial arts, boxing, etc are all great to learn & know for discipline, focus, bodily & mental strength & good health in general.
It's also excellent to know you can protect yourself from a mugger, thief, etc. BUT MMA = STUPID, & that's a straight up FACT!
sowhatdude1 1 year ago
what sport is strongest between wing tsun vs Muay Thai? I want to know and start in the sport that is dangerous, I have an advantage has weak legs but the upper body fast, sooner walked in boxing for a year ago, which advantage has been in its sport and which should I choose? there is an advantage or disadvantage of anyone? I need something innate that longer legs or anything at to be aligned and have the advantage to any species? answer me privately or post comments
SafkoTheBest 1 year ago
bullshit mainstream cock fights
EponymousLion 1 year ago
that have ntohin to do with muaythai or wingtsun. thats vale tudo
killercash 1 year ago
The only thing i hate about violence sports is that they think there men cause' they fight.
bf2pwner586 1 year ago
wtf is with cagefighting, its 2 seconds of actual fighting then just becomes 2 guys rolling around together wrapping thier legs around each other.
DrCodeMonkey 1 year ago
@DrCodeMonkey Get in a street fight and see how long the fight lasts standing up.
blaggosphere 1 year ago
@blaggosphere It depends if you are good enough to keep someone from grappling and slamming you. If a striker...lets say a wing chun expert is fast and strong enough, they can dodge a tackle and attack without being taken down. Now, learning a form of ground-game is a better idea than learning just a striking art though. BJJ+Wing Chun=good.
generalsaam 1 year ago
@blaggosphere Thats only because of this UFC culture. Everyone thinks that this is the way to fight. And so, you have people who get into real street fights, go to the ground. Why, cause they can't fight! And the only way they can control a person is to take them to the ground, which in a REAL self-defense situation, can cause more problems than it prevents. The idea that 90% of all street fights end up on the ground is a cooked up lie and a dangerous assumption.
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4deep81k 1 year ago
lofl at blaggispere lol from the beggining of street fights it was like that...its nature..in a fight someone aggressive might not stop hitting u when ur on the ground, mma teaches you to protect yourself the most....so there thats good for all you standing only fighters or talkers to take advantage of...like u said can cause more problems than it prevents but in reality its either his ass or yours!! u chose. im not hating on any sport..just being str8
4deep81k 1 year ago
@4deep81k Oh dude, I agree. It is his ass or yours. I do not disrespect groundfighting. There are plenty of ground techniques taught in Kungfu and Aikido, and other arts. I just don't think it is smart to rely on the groundfighting. Thats all.
KungFuKid1015 1 year ago 2
@KungFuKid1015 yea thats why in mma you train in all fields not just groundfighting....you need all...if your gonna talk about the best way
4deep81k 1 year ago
@KungFuKid1015 gota have a good standup :D well said!
barryhanlon94 1 year ago
Streetfights last about 30 seconds if that. Most are over in 1-3 hits. UFC is a sport, in real life you'll just get your head stampped on if you go down.
DrCodeMonkey 1 year ago
i spent 300 dollars on a 3 min fight yay....
markdaking1 1 year ago
did anyone know another vale tudo competitions like WVC,IVC or rioheroes? :D wanna watch vale tudo instead of todays mma....
alucardseperdalv 1 year ago
In the words of Depeche Mode (UK 80s synth group)
"what makes a man hit another man, help me understand"
Just seems like a way for low intelligent people to make a buck?
PhobiaGuy 1 year ago
All these guys in the UFC and these cage matches that do all this groundfighting, have the WORST hand techniques I've ever seen! I mean come on, and they're professionals? No wonder they get taken to the ground so much. They can't punch worth a damn. Their elbows are out and they are punching like a bunch of schoolyard kids! No power! Oh so there is alittle blood! Boo hooo. It doesn't take much to get cut or have a bloddy lip or gum or nose. Don't mean shit. These guys need help!
KungFuKid1015 1 year ago 20
@KungFuKid1015 Try competing in mma its quite hard to train 4+ disciplines and be great at all of them
35503550 1 year ago
@35503550 I'm sure it is hard to train for. But it seems that these guys only train good for groundfighting. Alot of these guys have sloppy hands. By that I mean, their elbows are out when they punch, which greatly reduces power. They are reaching with their punches, which puts their wieght forward, causing them to be off balance. I mean so many little things can change a fighter.
KungFuKid1015 1 year ago 6
@KungFuKid1015 you're right bro these guy's wouldn't survive on foot
praveenrock5 1 year ago
@KungFuKid1015 FINALLY!!!! Someone who fucking understands and see that this is just guys ground fighting!
Christoff87 9 months ago
@KungFuKid1015 Hey, seems as though you`ve been doing to much Wing Chun!
Go home and do something proper like Muay Thai!
hartergettobasti 1 year ago
@hartergettobasti Ok, sure, why not. Lets all do shin kicks to the point that by the time we're all 30-35, we die because of blood clots in out legs. Yeah, lets do that! The only thing that Muay Tai is truely good at are the knees and elbows, which are used in Wing Chun and in almost every other martial art too. Why don;t you do some reading and know where I was comming from in the first place.
KungFuKid1015 1 year ago
@KungFuKid1015 we see what hapopens when groundfighting takes over standing fights and dominates so it must be a field one should look into if they are gonna talk about bad hand technique...its a fight look at ur ass and 4get about technique...make sure ur endurance, and everything is in place and dont let the pressure get to your mind or gameplan wont work out....i give respect to any fighter even ufc fighters
4deep81k 1 year ago
@4deep81k and i say that cause i dont like the ufc as an organization
4deep81k 1 year ago
@4deep81k Well sure endurance is important. If you can't last one or two rounds, you're screwed. I am just saying these guys could clean up some of their hand techniques, thats all.
KungFuKid1015 1 year ago
@KungFuKid1015 fight one then
cjp0074 1 year ago
@KungFuKid1015 You know what, you should ring them up and offer to teach them, correct their technique, i'm sure they'd be very greatful. Where is your gym located?
ToraJutsu01 11 months ago
@ToraJutsu01 I am not an instructor. But the place I go to is in Blountville TN. We have had some MMA guys come down and work on their hand techniques. One of them, Anthony Boyd, just became pro, or is on his way to becomming pro. He came to the school and had a really good groundgame, but his hands were sloppy, like in here, he would be off balance and would throw haymakers. My instructor cleaned up his hands and now he is state champion. The school's site is on my channel.
KungFuKid1015 11 months ago
@KungFuKid1015 If this doesn't mean shit, then what does mean shit?
kevinchristopher100 11 months ago
@KungFuKid1015 Im surprised this comment has got 12 votes. I understand your point and partially you're right, but fighting in MMA or valetudo isnt the same as fighting in boxing or Muay Thai, a good example would be Kid Yamamoto, look at his stance or the punches he throws in training; You'll see that and just laugh, but this guy knocks you out with his fingertipp. Another good example is Jorge Masvidal, that guy is a genius in stance, look for him on youtube, youll have a lot to learn ! ;)
MOUSEBURNZ 11 months ago
@KungFuKid1015 Some of the 'technique' problems you see with the hands could also have a lot to do with the dynamic changing when someone's actively resisting and trying their hardest to hit you at the same time? Just my own thought on the matter.
LordGosai 11 months ago
@KungFuKid1015 finaly i see someone who not are blind about this type of fight. Sorry my english.
thekapote 11 months ago
@KungFuKid1015 hey bro...this isn't UFC...I'd like to see you take one swing from anderson silva or GSP.
guit4rplay3radam 10 months ago 6
@guit4rplay3radam ANDERSON!!!!!!!
EBB47 9 months ago
@guit4rplay3radam Not to mention Rampage jackson
killermoens 4 months ago
@KungFuKid1015
I agree that they have very little hand technique, but at the same time these type of fighters are trained differently than sum1 training in gung fu. these guys are trained to go for the ko or submission. their focus is less on the philosophy and more on battle. Bruce Lee said "do not think of the outcome of a fight", but most of these guys are thinking of that exactly. To Win. Just different thought process, different approach to fighting. Interesting to watch though. JKD 4Life
stLJett 10 months ago
modern gladiators...
(not meant that i like it)
Beraf2008 1 year ago
@Beraf2008 Thats what I've been saying. THis UFC stuff is entertainment. The fighters are slaves to the entertainment and sports industry. Thus being modern day gladiators. Just my opinion.
KungFuKid1015 11 months ago
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congasious 1 year ago
Enjoy the brain damage you fools get.
Vlad2TKD 1 year ago
this is NHB vale tudo from brasil, fucking brutal
why do people post with such arrogance of throwing in a bunch of Martial Art forms?
bigbootyfiend 1 year ago
this is not wing chun wing chun is a lot cooler and better than this stinking blood divers that stupit mather f ...............ers
lovestarwarsechobase 1 year ago
WHAT_A_DISGRACE_PEOPLE! I dont understand how you human beings can enjoy this brutality and call it martial arts!!
Over one million views? WHAT A DISGRACE
This is not martial arts this is garbage.
Neooneson 1 year ago
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@Neooneson u mad bro?
basketball230230 1 year ago
@Neooneson and out of those 1 million plus views, you were one of them. Dont act like you are better than everybody else. You saw the title of the video and was intrigued to see this "brutality" as you call it and yes brazilian jiu jitsu is a martial art form.
callmeror 1 year ago
@callmeror Yes, BJJ IS a martial art form. But it is simply Judo renamed, with emphasis on groundfighting. What Neooneson is talking about, and I have to agree with him, is the culture of brutality and death. Just like the Roman empire, watching slaves fight to the death in gladitorial games, these fighters are slaves to the entertainment and sport industry. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out.
KungFuKid1015 11 months ago
@Neooneson Absolutely right! This is just like the Roman Empire. Where slaves to the emperor would be forced to fight. Here, these fighters are slaves to the entertainment and sport industry. Thus being modern day gladiators. It IS a disgrace to martial arts. The attitude, the apparel, the money, the fame....what garbage. Our culture is completely obsessed with death and brutality. This is sickening!. Boxing at least is a decent art, although it too can get messy.
KungFuKid1015 11 months ago
thats the foooooliest thing ever...so stupid ppl...no matter how good you are and how much fights you win...you always and i mean AAALWAYS find your teacher...and its gonna hurt...maybe for the rest of your life...what a waste..better be on crack
ItsFatBigNGreek 1 year ago
These fights should be banned!
MegaSmud 1 year ago
WHERE IS MUAY THAI AS YOU TITLE ? THIS IS NOT MUAY THAI ?
gregus766 1 year ago
better to don't talk about wing chun in this kind of videos , that's insult it
chefgua 1 year ago 29
better to don't talk about wing chun in this kind of videos
chefgua 1 year ago
dude thats just plain martial arts hurting and getting hurt, if you are a true martial artist you should avoid fighting, unless itll give you like a lot of cash to go on ring : /
gwidao123 1 year ago
wtf is this....this is not even martial arts..there are wing chun or muay thai involved....this is just a brawl between guys who looks rippled...a master in wing chun will break these guys apart regardless how big they are.. wing chun attacks the centerline which disregards how much muscle you have
TREXZ 1 year ago