(2/11) Battlefield II The Battle for Caen World War II

[jgg017]

Hey, that was a Cromwell, not a Churchill.

[JSLegoMaster]

By far the best war documentaries i have ever seen.

what i like most about it is that it isnt made to make 12 year old kids think its "cool" or something, its historical correct and full of details, showing what happend, not more and not less.

[armydudert]

4:57 kitten

[ThugCologne]

where is part one???

[fullmetaljacketman]

(continued) 2nd and 3rd Battles of Monte Cassino; Operation Market Garden (specifically Arnhem); Battle of Ortona; Nethlands Campaign. Is it just coincidence that they faced such tough opposition? I'm inclined to believe it was that, plus Monty's attempts at glory, plus German underestimation of the Americans, that got them into half of those messes.

[fullmetaljacketman]

Is it just me, or were the British + Commonwealth getting most of the hard assigments in WWII. Even after the US showed up, they still had to fight the following: eastern sicily, where they ran into the entire german army while Patton mopped up the Italians in the west and didn't really do anything; Caen vs. 6 Panzer divisions, five of them veteran, plus 4 infantry and two SS Heavy Panzer Battalions (US faced two Panzer and 10 infantry divisions, with no Heavy Panzers)

[Litterboxer529]

My grandpa fought at Caen 

[JohnnyH1982]

Geeezis, are they really showing pictures of Cromwell's and saying they are Churchills?

[LimestoneScot]

If you look at the tank at 7:30 - 7:36, they are describing the hill climbing ability of the Churchill and show a Matilda II.

[KOGR11]

the tank they are calling churchil .. isnt that a cromwell??

[christof139]

@KOGR11, Yes! Cromwells are shown, not Churchills. Sherman's armor was much thicker than 31mm & many Shermans had extra armor added to the right front turret & hull sides, & later models had 'wet ammo storage' that reduced brew-ups/burns to much less than other Allied & German tanks. Long 76mm gun was judged better than the USSR 85mm according to USSR sources, & especially when firng HVAP ammo, & the hort 75mm fired an excellent HE round. Jumbo Shermans had frontal armor thicker than a Tiger I.

[johnster1964]

Is that music part of the original soundtrack? The mix is all wrong, I can hardly hear the narrator

[nbachmann]

Did they really just completely confuse the Churchill and the Cromwell? A professional British documentary got the main British tanks wrong?

[14th20thKRHkickass]

so badly made, so many facts and figures totally wrong, funny thing so far 7:47 he talks about churchill and gives facts and figs yet the picture is clearly that of a cromwell. Wow how have they fucked up so badly/

Shermans armour? 86mm max, 30 minimum the documentary misleads people to believe it was 30 throughout.

[MrWattu]

look the kitty at 4.57

[Bart050384]

Where is part one??

[shatchett0]

Battlefield is a great series. Loved the one they did on Vietnam.

[Highlanderswave83]

Where is part 1?i see that many of this valuable documentarys dont have the part 1 uploaded or they were removed....

[thewalkereffect]

07:40 errm thats a cromwell, not a churchill :s

[Isthisthelongestname]

7.50 - that looks more like a Cromwell, not a Churchill....I'm not 100% sure, the picture is not great!

[14th20thKRHkickass]

@Isthisthelongestname you're right. The picture doesn't need to be great to tell them apart, a black outline would have sufficed, totally different shape. I hate it when big documentaries and particularly books make basic mistakes. I have a large book on WW2 and one picture in particular shows a squad of German SS troops riding on a Panther D yet the book labels it a King Tiger and the troops as Fallschimjager which is evidently not the case

[Bullettube]

Interesting comparison of the commanders. I've always thought that the number one reason for the allied victory was that we had Roosevelt and Churchill and the Germans had Hitler. Despite the egos of our commanders, and maybe because of it, the Allies achieved victory over the tyrant.

[Cosmoline]

04:57--there's a cat lounging next to the Bren gunner in the foxhole!

[marvesmarves]

4:58 WTF, lol

[rainbowsixODST]

hitler was the most stupied person on earth. how could you deny help to your own troops.

[mobilechief]

@rainbowsixODST Megalomaniac all the way, if it was not for him Germany would have one, not so good for the rest of us hu?

[FWDORA9]

I noticed the Title says "Battlefield II", is this a new version of the original series called "Battlefield" and is it available on DVD, thanks for any help.....

[HoustonGD]

Battlefield II is ava. I think at even Target store and can be rented on Netflix. Battlefield I is hard to get.

[QPhilms]

By this time, Germany (which had feared a two front war) was fighting a six front war.

Italy, southern France, northern France, Scandanavia, Russia (which was realistically four fronts on it's own) and the costly Atlantic Ocean submarine battle.

It is no wonder the German generals so often in their memoirs simply wanted to end the war by '44.

If it weren't for the diabolical social ideals of Hitler, you almost got to feel sorry for the fools.

[Harvin87]

Germany #1

[CJBombaYe]

7:05 those are Cromwell tanks, not Churchills.

[CJBombaYe]

7:23 - 7:37 are Churchills. 7:38 shows a Cromwell even though it says Churchill.

[2bn442RCT]

Whomever edits Battlefield II does not know what their doing. Probably someone with a "history degree," and not an expert. I'm no expert on British armor and that clearly is an obvious mistake! Thanks for your input.

[CJBombaYe]

04:56 trigger happy kitty.

[dragonkilla7]

lang lebe unsere heilige Deutschland!

[32silvercoins]

I am a huge fan of the Typhoon sir but I just really like the 47.

Also 3times more 47s were made then Typhoons.

[32silvercoins]

Hey GD, Which aircraft do you think was deadlier, The P47 or the Typhoon ?

Both have earned fame as ground attack aircraft.

[HoustonGD]

Man that's tough. Do some research and get back to me. The Typhoon always gets more credit than the P-47. But I'm not sure.

[32silvercoins]

I know the Typhoon at first had a nasty habit of losing its tail in mid flight due to the vibrations from the Sabre engine. Also the Sabre engine was unreliable as well. Anthor issue was that C02 tended to leak into the cockpit. That could be deadly in midflight.

The 47s main problems was its poor slow speed turning rate and the fact that weighed the same as a freaking house. But I personally consider its eight .50s better then the Typhoons 4 20mms. But thats my own beleifs.

[CJBombaYe]

the p47 had the longest range and best engine of all the fighters, except the me.262 and the Komet.

[CJBombaYe]

oops; I mistook the p47 for the p51.

[antred11]

@CJBombaYe Not true. There were quite a few fighters with better range than the Mustang. Some of the Japanese fighters, for instance. The P-38 too.

[CJBombaYe]

@antred11

you're probably right

[dragonkilla7]

typhoon

[EvilFingers]

@32silvercoins

I would say that the P47 Thunderbolt aka The Jug was better than the Typhoon, because it was more than just 7 Ton Fighter Bomber, it was a Flying Tank and can take more punishment than any Single Seat Fighters during WW2.

[JuanKuzov]

@EvilFingers and i would say your probably american

[EvilFingers]

@JuanKuzov And your Point is what Sherlock?

[JuanKuzov]

@EvilFingers that your fucking biased all americans are its bred into u if its not american it sucks

[EvilFingers]

@JuanKuzov Bias...is thats youre only excuse to post....man, get the fuck outta here!

[JuanKuzov]

@EvilFingers its well known the german tanks crews were more scared of typhoons yet u pick the p47

lol american shit cunt

[EvilFingers]

@JuanKuzov Thats what youre lead to believe, but youre to blind to notice that P51 as well as the P47 both carried the same rockets used with the Typhoons were flying all over Normandy causing the same amount of damage on German Armor...now who is Bias, Sherlock Holmes?

[JuanKuzov]

@EvilFingers Im simply repeating what the german tank crews said, you are speaking with blind american patriotism.

whats all this sherlock holmes makes you look like a prick

[EvilFingers]

@JuanKuzov Again, thats what you are lead to believe and if Im prick why do you bother to respond, ya twit, I can tell you why....youre fuckin bored thats why!

[JuanKuzov]

@EvilFingers go fuck ya mother

[EvilFingers]

@JuanKuzov LOL, typical Dumbfuck response.

[tjhoenecke]

@JuanKuzov That sort of blanket statement alone sort of wreaks of bias and prejudice itself, don't you think...?

[JuanKuzov]

@tjhoenecke nope it came from germans you clown

[tjhoenecke]

@JuanKuzov Your constant use of ad hominems to attack every opinion different from your own only serves to undermine your credibility.

[JuanKuzov]

@tjhoenecke dont be gay

[johngolby]

@32silvercoins My Uncle flew Typhoons in the RAF and always said there was nothing better than the Mustang with Alison engines.I have to add, it was a super cool looking aircraft.

[JuanKuzov]

@32silvercoins the german tank crews were more afraid of typhoons because they usually carried rockets and the 20 mm could actually penetrate some german tanks top armour

[32silvercoins]

Ive seen video of Shermans with 60mm motars attatched to the front and some with the mortar attatched to the turret but those were all in the field jobs.

Ive never heard of a mortar being a factory item.

[HoustonGD]

Whomever presented the videos of the Churchill tank doesn't know what their doing 07:00-07:56

[techygrrlkush]

@HoustonGD I tihnk they got confused because of the turret of the Churchill 7 looks the same as the Cromwell. Looks like at 7.20 - 7.23 Those are actually Churchills (on the beach.) Probably whoever was looking at the graphic was only looking at the turret for stock footage and not paying attention to the tracks/wheels. Fro some reason I think some Brit tanks are goofy looking!

gwen

[TimOvrlrd]

@HoustonGD Your right, those are Cromwells.

[HoustonGD]

The Sherman's armor thickness was 31mm of side armor. This is just typical Sherman bashing!! 06:17

[noblepuker]

@HoustonGD people also forget the sherman was designed in 1941 to fight the Panzer IV...she would've done well.By 1944 she had to duel panzers and tigers.doh !

[CptCann]

@HoustonGD yep right man! On the front it was 50 mm

[TheLordZhufor]

@HoustonGD well at least they didnt say anything about the gun XD

because even the 76mm gun was in performence no comparison for the german pak 40

[HoustonGD]

That clearly is not a "churchill" tank but a Cromwell 07:56

[HoustonGD]

This image of Rommel being some babe in the woods is ridiculous! He was a very shrewd and crafty self-promoter. So successful of his image that it lives to this day.

[sarjil]

2 inch mortar on shermans?

[HoustonGD]

LOL yeah thats funny. What the hell is that!!!

[lbridet]

That is correct, I just measured it on my tin soldier version of the sherman