Made famous by Bob Dylan? Roud Numer One? The most ancient and popular of the twenty thousand? Wow! That's as impressive as the ancient mansions of Beverly Hills. I had no idea that the Fukushima fallout had gotten this bad!
The reason most people prefer this version to all others, though they might not know it is the drums. It's a small touch, but the extra layer of beats combined with the slick guitar work by Jack makes for the best version of Black Jack Davey.
I imagined this was gonna be like the STEELEYE SPAN song of the same title. It's an entirely different song and different tune but I think the lyrics tell somewhat the same story. .
8 people were forsaken by their lady! I like the Carter Family version best, though Woody Guthrie's Gypsy Davy is also very good. The White Stripes version is different, but much better than most of the other folksy versions I've heard. I like some of Dylan's work, but his version is awful by comparison. I'd like to hear Johnny Cash's take on it.
The best thing to do is listen to The Carter family sing it and then listen to Jack, he is simply the smartest music man that ever lived. Sorry to hear about the break-up of the stripes and he even did that with the respect for the band and the fans and Meg.
So we've got another incarnation of this ancient ballad. I suppose any retelling helps preserve it, though what a shame this version is incredibly diabolical!
@seikogoldwatch2009 Actually, as it is originally an old English folk song, I think you'll find Steeleye Span did the best version (though this is surprisingly good).
Ralph Waldo Emerson: "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" ;)
Actually, at every other day I like simple arrangements also. It might be that on those occasions I would now even search for WS (while a full CD of this stuff would be perhaps still too much for me in dose).
Anyways, it seems that, with your help, I have been able to enlarge my musical understanding a little - thanks for all the involved. And I must apologize for my unnecessarily confrontational opening remark.
These two (Jack and Meg) have provided us with amazing music for so long and there's no denying it, I know the concept of "soul" is hard to grasp, but it's not all about soul. They experiment with many different styles but they still keep their own distinct style.They're only two but they work like four.Every album is amazing. I know it's a matter of personal taste, but there really is talent in that band.
And yes, I'm going to buy all the albums I'm still lacking from them.
Ok - they are adequate instrumentalists, but let's face it, with just guitar and drums and not any exceptional vocals any music remains inevitably quite 1-dimensional.
It is especially true with this particular example, which they ruin otherwise also. Compared to the Steeleye Span version - this is miles behind in every possible measure.
The thing is, they don't need a fucking full band to express soul into every one of their songs, and having studio quality vocals and instrumentals don't make your songs much better.
You mean this is not a studio recording? Anyways, I have found them always boring. Good players - but to make the limited set (guitar, drums, vocal) work consistently requires real genius. There is just not much originality in the arrangements - the variations there are, don't surprise - and vocals tend to follow the most obvious modes of expression.
But if you can find soul from them, then more power to you. Perhaps I'm just not talented enough to understand how to listen them.
@halomidgetman I understand that sarcasm or lack of it doesn't communicate well through this media. Seriously, I was not trying to be sarcastic this time.
When you say that they 'express soul in their songs' - I must believe that it is your experience and thus true. I sincerely believe that I have my limitations - also regarding music - and this must be a point where I have met one of my current limits.
Consequently, I guess I have to retract 'every possible measure' from my initial statement.
I think you're shortchanging the White Stripes. I think they've done a truly unique and powerful arrangement of this song.
I think it's up there with Johnny Cash's performance of it on Little House in 1976.
In my opinion, this is a song in which less is more, performance and arrangement-wise. Steeleye Span, which is without dispute a great group, does a version of the song that is a bit overcomplicated for my taste.
@lokisgodhi Heh, in another discussion I'm basically saying just that: 'less is more' - I should make up my mind ;)
Only just realized that this song has a long 'independent' tradition there - so this piece is not a 'rockified' version of the English folk song. It is rock as it should be, on honest American basis.
I also checked other songs and must admit their talent in varying their approach. Still too limited soundscapes to me, but I can now better understand why they are appreciated by many.
@BF2User5 Might i suggest checking their performance from Under Great White Northern Lights. They do it acoustic it's amazing, and it might be something you dig if you fancy folk.
not canadian , but jack has relatives in Nova Scotia...his grandmother is from my home town , sydney mines...he mentions the town in 7 nation army on the Under Great White Northern Lights cd....she was at the 10th anniversary show in Glace Bay nova scotia , i was there too.....UNFORGETABLE night.
@WhiteStripesFann This is NOT a Dylan song. It's a traditional folk song from the 18th century. Dylan just happened to do a version of it too. Perhaps the most famous recorded version done by Steeleye Span
Impeccable taste by White Stripes, as usual , as they mine the American music tradition (e.g. "Conquest" by (dear God) Patti Page). I heard the great Almeda Riddle sing this song almost forty years ago in Chicago, and it still haunts me.
This is totally wicked awesome as the White Stripes always are awesome. I love the gallop sort of beat. Gallop beats are awesome withother songs too like Heart's Barracuda and Ghost Riders in The Sky. I'm practicing my guitar galloping on these three great songs.
I've been to two white stripes concerts and seven bob dylan concerts and I'll happily bUy tickets to see either act again. In fact I have tickets to see Bob on Nov. 7, 2009. I caN'T EFFIN' WAIT!! THANKS FOR POSTING THIS GEM (sotry the caps lock stuck)
this is so good! love it!! does anyone know the origins of the song itself? i have listened to versions by dylan, and also one by steeleye span, and cant discover wether its american folk or british or what.. ? any help would be appreciated! thanks for posting! x
It's on old Appalachian song most likely brought over from England. The first time I heard the song it was done by Almeda Riddle on the CD Songcatcher II: The Tradition That Inspired the Movie.
It's older than that. It's a 17th century folk tale from southern Scotland that has had about 47,000 versions played and recorded since then. To be honest, this is one of my least favorite versions.
It's just a modern version of an old song, just like Dylan played it. Believe me I am a huge Dylan fan, I don't mean that in the sense that I have some greatest hits and Highway 61 and Blood on the Tracks, I have everything the man has made and I like this version, it seems like something Dylan would try to do in the mid 70's with that wicked band. Either way I like it quite a bit.
@toothfairytats Would you say there are similarities with House carpenter? I was just listening to this again and have been listening to the first bootleg series a bit lately and couldn’t help be reminded of house carpenter listening to this. And I gotta agree, Im a huge Dylan fan and not especially a WS fan, but I love this version
I like the Elliott Smith version it sounds more like a lost lover song, but he has some great covers like "they'll never take her love from me" and "all my rowdy friends" and "chelsea girls" but white stripes version sounds good too.
its an old folk song Dylan didn't write it but he did cover it. Im a Dylan crusader, but even I think the white stripes (who I never realy liked much) do a better interpretation of this one.
It's an old ass song, but it wasn't a song in the 18th century, it was a story that evolved from the Greek Tragedies. Then, centuries later, folk picked up the story and it became an ever evolving story for musicians, especially folk singers and story tellers.
"The Gypsy Laddie" (Roud 1, Child 200), also known as "Black Jack Davy" and "The Raggle Taggle Gypsies" among many other titles, is a traditional folk ballad, possibly written about 1720
Made famous by Bob Dylan? Roud Numer One? The most ancient and popular of the twenty thousand? Wow! That's as impressive as the ancient mansions of Beverly Hills. I had no idea that the Fukushima fallout had gotten this bad!
MikeMandaville 23 hours ago
The reason most people prefer this version to all others, though they might not know it is the drums. It's a small touch, but the extra layer of beats combined with the slick guitar work by Jack makes for the best version of Black Jack Davey.
Also, Jack tells the story with the most fire.
broadcastterp 5 months ago 2
I like just have to buy this lp coool
13girly1 5 months ago
Sharliza is a crazier version of Jack Davey! Type in No Go Pogo and you'll see what I mean...
masstsnk 6 months ago
i want a tattoo that says 'i'm in love with black jack davey"
rpetriniful 7 months ago
Needs to be replayed for... the rest of time
rocketloopz 7 months ago
Brill version of a trad song .... needs a violin somewhere though. instead of the guitar solos mayhap....
ronniesoak2003 9 months ago
@ronniesoak2003 Nope
broadcastterp 4 months ago
I imagined this was gonna be like the STEELEYE SPAN song of the same title. It's an entirely different song and different tune but I think the lyrics tell somewhat the same story. .
hopop313 9 months ago
love u bob... love stripes!
VerOcknikstar 10 months ago
8 people were forsaken by their lady! I like the Carter Family version best, though Woody Guthrie's Gypsy Davy is also very good. The White Stripes version is different, but much better than most of the other folksy versions I've heard. I like some of Dylan's work, but his version is awful by comparison. I'd like to hear Johnny Cash's take on it.
pjchmiel 1 year ago
The best thing to do is listen to The Carter family sing it and then listen to Jack, he is simply the smartest music man that ever lived. Sorry to hear about the break-up of the stripes and he even did that with the respect for the band and the fans and Meg.
harkoran 1 year ago 4
aweeeessssooommeee
gamer1330 1 year ago
chadd990, you're a man after my heart.
Instead, don't buy a White Stripes album. Buy them ALL!
JiS01 1 year ago 5
@JiS01
eh, I guess works too!
chadd990 1 year ago 2
So we've got another incarnation of this ancient ballad. I suppose any retelling helps preserve it, though what a shame this version is incredibly diabolical!
davidhamalainen 1 year ago
i played this song at my school guitar concert
jewels396 1 year ago
If you can't add or contribute to a previous version (Dylan), just don't bother, please.
konzwambii 1 year ago
The heart wants what the heart wants.
Newbie0 1 year ago
Johnny Cash did the best version of this song.
seikogoldwatch2009 1 year ago
@seikogoldwatch2009 Actually, as it is originally an old English folk song, I think you'll find Steeleye Span did the best version (though this is surprisingly good).
Profedrybicki 1 year ago
@Profedrybicki pfft. Taj Mahal owns this song.
macchilavel 10 months ago
Ralph Waldo Emerson: "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" ;)
Actually, at every other day I like simple arrangements also. It might be that on those occasions I would now even search for WS (while a full CD of this stuff would be perhaps still too much for me in dose).
Anyways, it seems that, with your help, I have been able to enlarge my musical understanding a little - thanks for all the involved. And I must apologize for my unnecessarily confrontational opening remark.
EneriGiilaan 1 year ago
These two (Jack and Meg) have provided us with amazing music for so long and there's no denying it, I know the concept of "soul" is hard to grasp, but it's not all about soul. They experiment with many different styles but they still keep their own distinct style.They're only two but they work like four.Every album is amazing. I know it's a matter of personal taste, but there really is talent in that band.
And yes, I'm going to buy all the albums I'm still lacking from them.
JacobGrimmFollower 1 year ago
Ok - they are adequate instrumentalists, but let's face it, with just guitar and drums and not any exceptional vocals any music remains inevitably quite 1-dimensional.
It is especially true with this particular example, which they ruin otherwise also. Compared to the Steeleye Span version - this is miles behind in every possible measure.
EneriGiilaan 1 year ago
@EneriGiilaan
The thing is, they don't need a fucking full band to express soul into every one of their songs, and having studio quality vocals and instrumentals don't make your songs much better.
halomidgetman 1 year ago
@halomidgetman
You mean this is not a studio recording? Anyways, I have found them always boring. Good players - but to make the limited set (guitar, drums, vocal) work consistently requires real genius. There is just not much originality in the arrangements - the variations there are, don't surprise - and vocals tend to follow the most obvious modes of expression.
But if you can find soul from them, then more power to you. Perhaps I'm just not talented enough to understand how to listen them.
EneriGiilaan 1 year ago
@EneriGiilaan
Your narcissism and sarcasm aren't appreciated here, or in the music world.
halomidgetman 1 year ago
@halomidgetman I understand that sarcasm or lack of it doesn't communicate well through this media. Seriously, I was not trying to be sarcastic this time.
When you say that they 'express soul in their songs' - I must believe that it is your experience and thus true. I sincerely believe that I have my limitations - also regarding music - and this must be a point where I have met one of my current limits.
Consequently, I guess I have to retract 'every possible measure' from my initial statement.
EneriGiilaan 1 year ago
@EneriGiilaan
I think you're shortchanging the White Stripes. I think they've done a truly unique and powerful arrangement of this song.
I think it's up there with Johnny Cash's performance of it on Little House in 1976.
In my opinion, this is a song in which less is more, performance and arrangement-wise. Steeleye Span, which is without dispute a great group, does a version of the song that is a bit overcomplicated for my taste.
lokisgodhi 1 year ago
@lokisgodhi Heh, in another discussion I'm basically saying just that: 'less is more' - I should make up my mind ;)
Only just realized that this song has a long 'independent' tradition there - so this piece is not a 'rockified' version of the English folk song. It is rock as it should be, on honest American basis.
I also checked other songs and must admit their talent in varying their approach. Still too limited soundscapes to me, but I can now better understand why they are appreciated by many.
EneriGiilaan 1 year ago
@EneriGiilaan
That's okay. As Walt Whitman said, Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
Some days I'm in the mood for simple music and some days I like complicated pieces myself.
lokisgodhi 1 year ago
my names davey! :D lol
pukeonmyshoe2130 1 year ago
Nothing like Bob Dylan I don't like it because this is a folk song and they just turned it upside down and ruined it.
BF2User5 1 year ago
@BF2User5 Might i suggest checking their performance from Under Great White Northern Lights. They do it acoustic it's amazing, and it might be something you dig if you fancy folk.
WookiePUBE 1 year ago
not canadian , but jack has relatives in Nova Scotia...his grandmother is from my home town , sydney mines...he mentions the town in 7 nation army on the Under Great White Northern Lights cd....she was at the 10th anniversary show in Glace Bay nova scotia , i was there too.....UNFORGETABLE night.
blunthog29 1 year ago
The melody kinda reminds me of "I Think I Smell A Rat". Where did you get this magnificent piece of audio?
HaraldNordbo 1 year ago
No disrespect to Bob Dylan, I love his music, but Jack always does a better cover of his songs.
WhiteStripesFann 1 year ago
@WhiteStripesFann This is NOT a Dylan song. It's a traditional folk song from the 18th century. Dylan just happened to do a version of it too. Perhaps the most famous recorded version done by Steeleye Span
igolem 1 year ago
Fantastic
HelterSkelterForum 1 year ago
Bob Dylan and Jack White, two of the greatest people to ever live.
blackmath8 1 year ago
Why does this song only have 36,500 and some odd views? People really don't appreciate good music.
SmooshCakes 1 year ago
@SmooshCakes no, because its not that well known
gamer1330 1 year ago
eat it all!!!!
aquaturtle79 1 year ago
This version is much better, of coarse this is the recording and not a live performance. The audio is excellent, bassey. Are they a Canadian group?
Ezdduf4kuZ 1 year ago
@Ezdduf4kuZ They are from detroit michigan
Grem91 1 year ago
This song isn't that bad. I'm not the biggest White Stripes fan but they definetely have some good stuff.
UnseenChains 1 year ago
If you like this song, put the thump up!
DrDox 1 year ago
The Under Great White Northern Lights version of this song is great too~! Ahh~ White Stripes are amazing.
Pandapple1995 1 year ago
Bad to the bone, Jack.
sdayvee 1 year ago
Awesome...Of course Zune won't let me buy this. Argh...just have to go watch Under Great White Northern Lights again I guess
JtheG4 1 year ago
killer shit man
PsykoToons 1 year ago
im gonna give you kudos mate
you might not have written it but you uploaded it and a couldnt find this version elsewhere
is cool
ramsay97 1 year ago
I love this song!! Such a good cover
JoeyRamone129 1 year ago
This somewhat sounds like a twisted pirate song!
Cuuka 1 year ago
This song is very much my song for my relationship.
ahhh... songs with meanings....
inukboy 1 year ago
oh Jack i love you so
eevlwich 1 year ago 4
which stripes album is this on?
Spacemonkey742 1 year ago
b-side on the Seven Nation Army single
pmo1983 1 year ago
dude thanks i could not find it anywhere thanks again
Spacemonkey742 1 year ago
@Spacemonkey742
MisforMysterys 1 year ago
One JW 's best performances on guitar
stinsonautosales 1 year ago
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my favorite song is NONE! bitch
jmayhse 2 years ago
De mais !Muito Boa
mrnetto0 2 years ago
Impeccable taste by White Stripes, as usual , as they mine the American music tradition (e.g. "Conquest" by (dear God) Patti Page). I heard the great Almeda Riddle sing this song almost forty years ago in Chicago, and it still haunts me.
fanofmozart 2 years ago
where did you get this song? because its not on itunes
PearlslaveRecords 2 years ago
I believe it is on the B-side on the Seven Nation Army single.
radiozero93 2 years ago
you are absolutely correct
specialted1742 2 years ago
@PearlslaveRecords: Stop using iTunes then.
ReverendNillerz 1 year ago
@PearlslaveRecords iTunes is just like any other digital way of listening to music - crap quality and lame. vinyl all the way!
pappasc4 1 year ago
cool
6532MegaPixel 2 years ago
brilliant. ladies and gents, jack's done it again.
lauriepoo86 2 years ago 2
@lauriepoo86 Aren't you forgetting someone?
sagbag12345 1 year ago
This is totally wicked awesome as the White Stripes always are awesome. I love the gallop sort of beat. Gallop beats are awesome withother songs too like Heart's Barracuda and Ghost Riders in The Sky. I'm practicing my guitar galloping on these three great songs.
jdg72289 2 years ago 22
good acid rock track but steeleye span with then young maddy pryor did it better
atfatw 2 years ago
I've been to two white stripes concerts and seven bob dylan concerts and I'll happily bUy tickets to see either act again. In fact I have tickets to see Bob on Nov. 7, 2009. I caN'T EFFIN' WAIT!! THANKS FOR POSTING THIS GEM (sotry the caps lock stuck)
rickthaluddite 2 years ago
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dylan is god beatles r jesus and metallica is judas
assman2287424 2 years ago
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atfatw 2 years ago
fantstic song... anyone know where i can buy it??? it ain't on iTunes, it ain't on the Stripes website....
froggywrecker 2 years ago
try ebay or amazon. sometimes you find rare stuff there.
elbratzo 2 years ago
You can simply use Vdownloader or, YoutubeDownloader..
Anathematic667 2 years ago
Freakin love this song, and The White Stripes.
BoggyCreekFilms 2 years ago
Tadala
UselessLass 2 years ago
Try Steeleye Span...
UselessLass 2 years ago
this is so good! love it!! does anyone know the origins of the song itself? i have listened to versions by dylan, and also one by steeleye span, and cant discover wether its american folk or british or what.. ? any help would be appreciated! thanks for posting! x
kateypie1 2 years ago
It's on old Appalachian song most likely brought over from England. The first time I heard the song it was done by Almeda Riddle on the CD Songcatcher II: The Tradition That Inspired the Movie.
jessesgirl10 2 years ago
thank you for replying, i will look out for the cd! x
kateypie1 2 years ago
It's older than that. It's a 17th century folk tale from southern Scotland that has had about 47,000 versions played and recorded since then. To be honest, this is one of my least favorite versions.
givebeesachance 2 years ago
That's interesting. Do you like the older music?
jessesgirl10 2 years ago
i know, dylans version is the best i think
assman2287424 2 years ago
It's just a modern version of an old song, just like Dylan played it. Believe me I am a huge Dylan fan, I don't mean that in the sense that I have some greatest hits and Highway 61 and Blood on the Tracks, I have everything the man has made and I like this version, it seems like something Dylan would try to do in the mid 70's with that wicked band. Either way I like it quite a bit.
toothfairytats 2 years ago 13
@toothfairytats Would you say there are similarities with House carpenter? I was just listening to this again and have been listening to the first bootleg series a bit lately and couldn’t help be reminded of house carpenter listening to this. And I gotta agree, Im a huge Dylan fan and not especially a WS fan, but I love this version
foiran 6 months ago
No feeling. You have to have feeling! Feeling is what is what music is missing these days...
mypurplelighter 2 years ago
The White Stripes version is a lot more fluid that Dylan's. I want to like Dylan's more but it's just not as strong as this one.
scarlettdear 2 years ago 3
a cute chick, good ol style acid rock beat johnny winter would be proud circa 1969
atfatw 2 years ago
garage rock
AntiMercyDude 2 years ago
I have Mike Seeger's version of this on my iPod. This is the first I've heard this cover...pretty rad.
sml7799 2 years ago
this is a geat song to play =D
skye475 2 years ago 2
im not to bothered where its from its an amazing song and the white stripes did a great cover! :)
BlackJackDaveeeeyyy 2 years ago 2
I love this song. I like the story it tells.
kreepydoll 2 years ago 2
be 16 come sunday !!
This is cool
Dylan's is better
luckytigers8 2 years ago
...folk music has a way of shape shifting....gypsy davy-raggle taggle gypsies-as i roved out-16/17 come sunday
8u993 2 years ago
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Am I the only one that finds it wierd when guys sing from a womens perspective, like in this song and there cover of Jolene
DominoDylan 2 years ago
YES LOL
thecupdidit 2 years ago
this is a really gud song!!!!!!!!! so dont ruin it by ur dumb comments!!!!!!!
sagehorsedancer 2 years ago
I can listen to this all damn day :D
Farelbroz135 2 years ago
I like the Elliott Smith version it sounds more like a lost lover song, but he has some great covers like "they'll never take her love from me" and "all my rowdy friends" and "chelsea girls" but white stripes version sounds good too.
stainypoo 2 years ago
coooool :D
MarkusGre 2 years ago
love this!!
bombbasticluva 2 years ago 3
White Stripes covers are always better than the original!! Cuz TWS is the best music ever
stupreme 2 years ago
I don't want to say anything, but isn't this one of those traditional songs that people don't know who wrote it? I'm sure Bob Dylan didn't write it
Eleanorejustine 2 years ago
its an old folk song Dylan didn't write it but he did cover it. Im a Dylan crusader, but even I think the white stripes (who I never realy liked much) do a better interpretation of this one.
foiran 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure it was by Steeleye Span, a 70's folk revival band.
elegantmotif 2 years ago
Maybe...if you meant 1770's. This is an old ass song.
darkshines0 2 years ago
It's an old ass song, but it wasn't a song in the 18th century, it was a story that evolved from the Greek Tragedies. Then, centuries later, folk picked up the story and it became an ever evolving story for musicians, especially folk singers and story tellers.
ramblesocket 2 years ago
"The Gypsy Laddie" (Roud 1, Child 200), also known as "Black Jack Davy" and "The Raggle Taggle Gypsies" among many other titles, is a traditional folk ballad, possibly written about 1720
DrSword 2 years ago
yeah its possibly going back as early, in balard form, as 1720
foiran 2 years ago
Different song with the same name, i think anyway
Kailystos 2 years ago
they definately sang it ive watched their amazing version. but as with many of their songs its an old folk song given a new breath of life!
kateypie1 2 years ago
Great song. Guitar sound's fantastic.
DrDragon1980 2 years ago 2
i love this song man coool
9794585 2 years ago
gos i love this song
dmilzd 2 years ago
It's one of the b-sides to Seven Nation Army.
SarahGates 2 years ago
What album/EP is this from?
Saulonio 2 years ago
"If you like this song, don't give me any kudos, don't subscribe to me. Buy a White Stripes Album instead."
couldnt be better said...
tws0270 3 years ago 52
very true but were all still here listening for free
jones12a 2 years ago