Ex-CIA Agent Wayne Simmons: Waterboarding Is Not Torture!

[kyler187]

Shortly after sept 11th 2001, would most American give a rats ass if the terrorists responsible would be waterboarded by our government to get information ensuring our safety? Some people need to wake up, and realize that we're facing a real threat to our safety. They are more concerned about civil liberties to enemy combatants than they are with protecting America.

[rmccay88]

@kyler187

You have been completely sucked in by the fear mongering propaganda of the Neocons. The CIA even admits they drastically exaggerated the extent of more attacks after 9/11. We are facing a real threat, and it's from our own government.

[kyler187]

@rmccay88 I think its hillarious to say that I'm fear mongering, when you are spreading fear that our own government is out to get us. And if you believe that the terrorist threat is exaggerated, then take a look at the recent terrorist attacks by radical islam in the past year or so. (Ft hood shooting, underwear bomber, time squar bomber, etc). If you believe that the terrorist threat isn't out there, then you are completely niave.

[rmccay88]

@kyler187

What you and other Neoconservatives don't understand is that it is our invasion, occupation and nation building in foreign countries that has jeopardized our safety and makes us more vulnerable for future attacks. You can't occupy other countries and kill tens or hundreds of thousands of people and not expect that to cause hatred around the region and world. When the world views the United States as a bigger threat to world peace than Iran, it is time to change your foreign policy.

[kyler187]

@rmccay88 Yes doing what typical leftists do, which is blame America for every problem in the world. And claim that we deserve everything we get. And any country that finds us a bigger threat than Iran, are a nation of fucking idiots.

[rmccay88]

@kyler187

You are right, I am a Constitutional Conservative so that makes me a ''left wing loon" I suppose. You really should analyze with a more open mind what I said because I use to think the exact same thing about us being over their that you do now. Until l realized how flawed my position was. Have a good day sir.

[AceofDimonds0]

waterboarding may have gotten a lot of needed information and saved alot of lives.

however it is still torture and it is still morally wrong and illegal.

[studentdebts]

Some terrorists only understand torture because that is what Muhammad would have done to you in their place.

[josephortizgarcia]

Well it's crazy how when confronted with truth, you whites ignore what's in your faces. Waterboarding is a crime, yet when we do it, it's okay. Please help me with this logic.

[josephortizgarcia]

I've heard somewhere we executed Japanese soldier for waterboarding our soldier. Is this true?

[ronpaul2008rocks]

Hey, eaglewillfly, if you want to live in a country where citizens cannot complain about government torture, you should move to China or Saudi Arabia or Egypt or someplace like that. You will find many like minded in the government.

[TekLok]

again its still torture, you need to use some logic.

[Rycon973]

I got waterboarded to feel what it was like. Its hell. You don't think you're drowning, you are being drowned. It is definitely torture. But don't take my word for it. Try it yourself. The stuff you need is lying in your garage. When I started spitting the water into the towel and it came right back in, I started to go nuts. Its torture and America does not torture.

[zadiyan]

Im sorry dude but its not that bad. I went through it during SERE training and to be niaeve enough to really believe that America does not torture is like you believing your girlfriend when she tells you that your dick is the biggest she has ever seen. the people who keep america safe does whatever it takes. as it should be.

[Greywyn7]

Imagine it being done 180 times and not knowing when it will end, you retard.

You felt safe as a baby.

[AceofDimonds0]

ya like you were waterboarded just like harended iraqi war criminals, ill believe that. no

and when another country is doing the same thing to us to keep themselves safe, you would be outraged and say they are being unfair.

[threepeice]

Most of these morons don't realize that only 3 people were water-boarded back in 2002.

This is a political hot potato is all, grats Obama on having no class or respect for our country.

[Greywyn7]

Yeah, and I only murdered three people, its totally OK.

[TobyTheCatFTW]

yea...and they killed 4000 troops, its totally ok, they deserve rights

[Greywyn7]

Our standards apply to everyone, even dirty ragheads.

Torturing them just fuels the fire.

[LiberalshateAmerica]

greywyn7- TELLING EVERYONE we torture them may fuel the fire but I guess they didnt need torture as a excuse when they blew up the USS Cole or the Kobar towers or bombed the American embassys in Africa. 2 bombing on the WTC 3,000 dead American civilans and NO TOURTURE IN SIGHT! Stop with the Taliban talking points, its doesnt work.

[Greywyn7]

They already hated us, we're only making them hate us more.

[LiberalshateAmerica]

Greywyn- I thought invading Iraq created more terrorist also? So much for THAT theory huh? obama left the door open to waterboard if HE wants to, obama will not shut down GITMO, obama is sending MORE troops to war, obama is killing civilians. I thought he was for change? Looks like he lied to you.

[Greywyn7]

Looks like he did.

But you're delusional if you think your choice wouldn't have.

[AceofDimonds0]

by your comment im thinking you didnt vote for obama?

the war in iraq is not obamas fault, and its not like we can just move all of our troops out of iraq.

change thats time, obama has been in office one year. be patient.

[AceofDimonds0]

oh only 3 people?

it doesnt matter how many people are being waterboarded its still wrong

plus only three we know about its not like our government is going to tell us that they are breaking the law.

no waterboarding!

[threepeice]

No shit asshole it is called sarcasm!

Ever heard of it?

Fucking retarded people responding to 10 month old comments, not only is it out of context and retarded as fuck, you're just plain inept.

[Gerts4th]

Our own servicemen & servicewomen have to go through waterboarding in their training- I've heard it from these Military heroes mouths! So we aren't torturing our own Military members.

The MSM Leftist thugs are anti-military, pro- terrorist (for whatever reason) and they try to make our side (the pro-protection of America side) look bad.

This stunt by Brian Ross & the Leftist thugs at ABCNews today (4/30/09) of outting the waterboarding psychologists personal info. will endanger lives!

[Cherrybbyy]

During waterboarding your completely safe, it only effects psychologically during the act (you think your drowning). Its not like their cutting fingers off pouring bleach and acid on them, or taking electric saws and cutting into skin..this isnt extreme tourture. Whereas in Iraq prisoners of war have their heads cut off, they show no mercy. All we are trying to do is get information, the terrorist is safe and unmutilated

[fashioncraver]

Millions of innocent lives @stake v.s 1 cold blooded terriorist.soo...he should live & we should die? do you think they want to "talk it out?" No. They are radicals & extremists! how wud u feel to live in a country that allows bombing to occur- would u live there? feeling unsafe everyday b/c ohh we dont want 2 be mean 2 ONE person who doesn't give a crap about u or ur family when in the end we cud save MILLIONS! what kind of country allows that? if it were ur family about 2 b bombed u wud care!

[fashioncraver]

if its 2 protect america do it-they wont use it on kids come on!Its 4 safety!if a bomb was going 2 land would u want 2 b protected or r u just gonna chill there waiting 4 it 2 come? A child touches the stove & gets burned-a kid cutting skewl gets in trouble. a person who kills shud go 2 jail & b punished-a person who wants 2 kill millions shud b tortured in order 2 get facts if they r not willing 2say anything.Theres concenquences in life a terriorst shouldnt b treated kindlydo they care about u

[TekLok]

How do you justify imprisoning a suspect without having any solid evidence, and thus torturing them to gain information or a confession? How do you trust what they say? If its not torture would you allow it in your US justice system, or in your schools as part of detention? Why can't anyone provide any evidence of this method being successful? Also what the fuck is wrong with all of you?

[Mystapitt]

convincing 2 of the 9/11 plotters that they are drowning is not torture.

[way0fpain99]

First off, I don't think waterboarding (W.B.) really torture. It makes people think they're drowning. Nobody has ever died or even had any long lasting effects (other than maybe psychological, but if you're a terrorist, you already have psychological problems). If this W.B. makes them give up information that we can use to thwart terrorist attacks and save civilian lives, I don't see anything wrong with it. It's our president's job to keep us safe, and if that means we gotta W.B. than so be it.

[killahbri]

Word, this guy is right. Shame on you people that gave him thumbs down. When we were kids we held our breaths underwater. Whats the differance? It's psychological..........PERIOD.

[ericmiami21]

If the point of destroying the tapes was to protect the identities of CIA agents, as stated by Andrew Napolitano, why couldn't they just blur out the agent's faces in the video instead? They do it all the time on COPS...

[covertone81]

This makes me sick. I can't even watch the whole thing.

[NKA23]

Ohhh, it ain´t torture ?

Why don´t teachers use it on first graders if somebody wrote stuff like "Timmy is gay" on the blackboard ?

Maybe you could even use it on psychics to solve all unsolved murder cases....

/sarcasm

[ronpaul2008rocks]

Um, let's see. A government siezes people without any due process of law, places them in camps where they have no rights and tortures them. Hmmm, ... What does that sound like? Maybe, ... FASCISM????

Here's the logic: We must be fascists or we won't have freedom. What an oxymoron!

[taxidriver2929]

This guy is an idiot. The Judge is right again. You know there are so many alternative means like the drug he mentioned and playing loud music and crap. Those methods alone could get us all the info we want. Also liberalshateamerica...what a name...where exactly did you get that number?

[ponyboy316]

Could huh? COULD? Not WOULD, but COULD. DIFFERENCE. Learn how the two are seperated and then come back and play with the big boys. Trial and Error is for single-celled organisms, not humans.

[ancestralyuba]

Why spend time on loud music and drugs that may or may not work, when you can get the info you're after in a matter of minutes?

[ancestralyuba]

I can understand the fear of abuse of this practice, but it's not like we are cutting-off limbs.

Personally, I don't care if the tapes are gone. If they ended-up in the hands of this Congress, the tapes would be on the Internet in a matter of minutes for use by the enemy.

The waterboarding has saved American lives.

[ponyboy316]

Prove it. You can't so stop making childish assumptions that have no way of being proven, you fucking child.

[ancestralyuba]

I am not a "fucking child."

[bvb720]

I agree. Why show the enemy anything we are doing.

[LiberalshateAmerica]

bvb720

You have to understand that there are terrorist supporters on youtube trying to change the minds of Americans. I see many of them on here all day long. Just google ponyboy316 to see all the different blogs she/he is on giving the terrorists position!

[LiberalshateAmerica]

3 minutes 3 terrorists being waterboarded and over 2,000 Americans are alive today becuase of this. SOUNDS LIKE A DEAL TO ME!

[ponyboy316]

2000 alive from dorwning three people? Explain please. In detail. With sources. With quotes if possible and make sure all your FACTS are in order because I will go through each of them. FYI- Opinions and thoughts are not facts, they are just in your head.

[LiberalshateAmerica]

pony

Im not going to do your homework for you,Listen from 3:55 on, But then again if it doesnt fit your sorry terrorist lovin ass then you wont believe it. Ok,ok I will give you a break, watch the prev. video with Michael Scheuer. BTW 3 people didnt "drown" No harm came to your terrorist friends!

[LiberalshateAmerica]

ponyboy

One other thing The United States Bill of Rights does not cover terrorists or its canadian allies.