I also find that there is a lot of apathy a lot of people (of all ages) I have been asking don't even know about the proposed site in Alberta and when asked what their opinion is don't have one and they give the wonderful answer "I don't know enough to have an opinion"
I'm no expert,but I have done some research yes and all research is impartial or slanted or both in some way so yah I'm sure I have been privy to both.
I am very interested in looking at your sources if you would be willing to share them. (< that is not written with sarcasm,but the intent to learn)
Now I am sure that there have been improvements. I would hope there has been as nuclear power has been existence for a long time,but I don't think Canada needs #27. I just don't .
Also of course you are going to be for nuclear, you are as you say working in the nuclear industry. That itself presents more bias to me than me being anti- nuclear. Not many are going to choose to work somewhere that knowlingly supports enviromental devastation just to promote capitalism. (nuclear..tar sands...selling electricity to other places)
Alberta assumes all risk to lose money it doesn't make sense.
As I have said I am a critical thinker and question all information I am presented with. So yes, there is perhaps some bias by the fact that I am in the industry, I acknowledge that. But do I say that nuclear is safe because I work in nuclear, or do I work in nuclear because I believe it is safe? It's the latter, and all the information I've seen so far has led me to believe this. Who is getting significant or unsafe doses above background radiation?
Well I assume it would be the same reason I can assume that you are male Dave :)
(unless of course you are moonlighting in which case your secret is safe with me)
Fallacies: I know illogical forms of reasoning when I see them! I will rewatch these videos(when I have time in the next couple of days) and I will point out exactly what I have an issue with.
If you do know illogical forms of reasoning then you will notice plenty in Dr. Caldicott's arguments because they are rife with them. I've taken a critical thinking course in undergrad and I still remember it enough to point out just a few of the "techniques" of fallacy-ridden persuasion she uses: Appeal to fear, appeal to pity, straw-man arguments, to name a few.
I completly agree with that and I was a little annoyed watching her as well. There has to be a way to share knowledge and truth without being completly full of shit.
Hats off to me for doing exactly what the gender stereotype says I'll do, reacting emotionally instead of logically.
It just really made me angry. Everything this guy says, all his examples are giant fallacies that only people who don't really care about the issue would let slide,but I don't find he properly addresses anything and with all fairness he can't address peoples concerns and tell them the truth at the same time, so there you go.
Gender stereotype? How would I know if you are male or female by a Youtube name?
Anyway, the reason why what he says makes you angry is because you disagree with him and are anti-nuclear. How do you know that his examples are fallacies? Have you done research? If so, was it impartial or slanted? These are the things we must consider. I consider myself reasonably well informed as I work in the nuclear industry. Even still, I think critically about all the information I am presented with...
... Sure, the nuclear industry isn't perfect, but what industry is? The point is, that over time, it improves. But it never will if it fizzles out. I find that the more people know about it, the more rational they become and the less concerned they are. This is not apathy or complacence.
Consider the folks who live in Bruce county. So many work at the Bruce Power reactors, yet they aren't concerned about some local catastrophe. They work in the plant and are exposed to the safety culture.
I also find that there is a lot of apathy a lot of people (of all ages) I have been asking don't even know about the proposed site in Alberta and when asked what their opinion is don't have one and they give the wonderful answer "I don't know enough to have an opinion"
That is apathy!
megszoo 2 years ago
It's true. It is sad.
daves345 2 years ago
I'm no expert,but I have done some research yes and all research is impartial or slanted or both in some way so yah I'm sure I have been privy to both.
I am very interested in looking at your sources if you would be willing to share them. (< that is not written with sarcasm,but the intent to learn)
Now I am sure that there have been improvements. I would hope there has been as nuclear power has been existence for a long time,but I don't think Canada needs #27. I just don't .
megszoo 2 years ago
Also of course you are going to be for nuclear, you are as you say working in the nuclear industry. That itself presents more bias to me than me being anti- nuclear. Not many are going to choose to work somewhere that knowlingly supports enviromental devastation just to promote capitalism. (nuclear..tar sands...selling electricity to other places)
Alberta assumes all risk to lose money it doesn't make sense.
megszoo 2 years ago
As I have said I am a critical thinker and question all information I am presented with. So yes, there is perhaps some bias by the fact that I am in the industry, I acknowledge that. But do I say that nuclear is safe because I work in nuclear, or do I work in nuclear because I believe it is safe? It's the latter, and all the information I've seen so far has led me to believe this. Who is getting significant or unsafe doses above background radiation?
daves345 2 years ago
Well I assume it would be the same reason I can assume that you are male Dave :)
(unless of course you are moonlighting in which case your secret is safe with me)
Fallacies: I know illogical forms of reasoning when I see them! I will rewatch these videos(when I have time in the next couple of days) and I will point out exactly what I have an issue with.
megszoo 2 years ago
If you do know illogical forms of reasoning then you will notice plenty in Dr. Caldicott's arguments because they are rife with them. I've taken a critical thinking course in undergrad and I still remember it enough to point out just a few of the "techniques" of fallacy-ridden persuasion she uses: Appeal to fear, appeal to pity, straw-man arguments, to name a few.
daves345 2 years ago
I completly agree with that and I was a little annoyed watching her as well. There has to be a way to share knowledge and truth without being completly full of shit.
megszoo 2 years ago
this guy is douchebag (ffffttttttt air going out,air going out)
megszoo 2 years ago
What an intelligent, adult comment to add to this intellectual debate. Hats off to you.
daves345 2 years ago
I knew it was too good to be true!
Hats off to me for doing exactly what the gender stereotype says I'll do, reacting emotionally instead of logically.
It just really made me angry. Everything this guy says, all his examples are giant fallacies that only people who don't really care about the issue would let slide,but I don't find he properly addresses anything and with all fairness he can't address peoples concerns and tell them the truth at the same time, so there you go.
megszoo 2 years ago
Gender stereotype? How would I know if you are male or female by a Youtube name?
Anyway, the reason why what he says makes you angry is because you disagree with him and are anti-nuclear. How do you know that his examples are fallacies? Have you done research? If so, was it impartial or slanted? These are the things we must consider. I consider myself reasonably well informed as I work in the nuclear industry. Even still, I think critically about all the information I am presented with...
daves345 2 years ago
... Sure, the nuclear industry isn't perfect, but what industry is? The point is, that over time, it improves. But it never will if it fizzles out. I find that the more people know about it, the more rational they become and the less concerned they are. This is not apathy or complacence.
Consider the folks who live in Bruce county. So many work at the Bruce Power reactors, yet they aren't concerned about some local catastrophe. They work in the plant and are exposed to the safety culture.
daves345 2 years ago