The koran: a vain and futile attempt to clothe an otherwise naked and empty philosophy in some semblance of scientific credibility by invoking itself as its own written authority!
wama yaAAlamu taweelahu illa Allahu- no one knows the menaing but Allah and then the verse continues: waalrrasikhoona fee alAAilmi yaqooloona amanna bhi kullun min aaindi rabbina- and those full of knowledge say , we believe therein , all is from our lord. So waht is here difficult so taht you always re re re quest?? Too stupid better play the guitar looool even this you do not know as we can see from the nick, so you are the problem yourself with no knowledge at all telling me I have none loool
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 no you don`t have knowledge, you are a jahil trying to please the kuffar so they accept Islam, now tell me, do you have to kill someone who leave Islam? Say it in public so all your brothers and sisters see how hypocrete you are, trying to please the kuffar.
@Mrguitarsinner 79 @Mrguitarbeginner79 hahaha I am full of knowledge you are not you even did not get the clue point, if you like Islam but what I am saying, do not worry this is the truth and if you admit to like it then you yourself have the problem to believe it loool wow waht a stupid guy here!!!
@Mrguitarbeginner79 I am preatty sad that in compare to you I am an alim ;)) this is fact not sick you have no knowledge about Islam onl Internet hatred of haters, hahaha this is copy paste my dear but no knowledge the madman is you, relatively in compare to you I am an alim, read my word and answers and your stupid Kindergarten questions. This is enought to get it ;)
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 you run AGAIN! coward you can not answer..Rasim, listen, by writing dumbshit and bullshit you do not disprove ONE point. Sure everyone who criticizes Islam is an idiot who copy and paste, read from the internet, an islamophobe...don`t you realize that this crap shows how fanatic and DUMB you are? Why do christians, buddhist, hindus etc accept critics on their faith? Because they do BELIEVE but you do only have shit in your brain.
@Mrguitarbeginner79 why shall I accept stupidity of a madman as critics or why shall I take it serious, show knowledge by questions which can be taken as critics but you only show insults and empty questions and even though I was so polite to answer to you...what do you expect to take a madman as topman ;)) no sorry I am not a pretender nor a liar.
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 blablablabla....of course everyone who says "Karim, I donb`t believe you, you talk shit" is a madman, a stupid an islamophobe etc, I know your cheap game. But believe me, this will backfire on you. well buddy, need to go to bed now. See you tomorow...still I want my EASY ANSWERS.
@Mrguitarbeginner79 read your words , you are knocked down , and only repeat you want answers, no answer can satisfy you in your stupidity only a psychic or mental doctor may help you but not youtube, so go sleep and take a rest after I put the blame on you of being nothing but a failure who tries to write against Islam with ignorance and no understanding respectively no survey in knowledge, sleep is better for you and your nerves.
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 1.) Rahman, listen to me, you muslims are slow, I DO need to repeat myself again and again if I want straight answers of you..Lets test it. My FIRST QUESTION ever: Was Allahs Bible corrupted AGAINST or BY his will? a simple and straight answer Rahman, where`s the problem? I don`t want to hear that the jews or paul corrupted the bible, I know all your theories I want to know if the corruption of the bible happend BY or AGAINST Allahs will.
@Mrguitarbeginner79 so I stop converstaion with you it is deepest insult to abuse the name of god for your Kindergarten, if you want to continue insulting go ahead, I could answer all your questions but why shall I answer to satan's servant who wants to go to hell, you made up your decision, bon voyage!
@SeashoreaTRUTH111.) you are not able to answer thats all. Aren`t you AbdulOmars playing the kindergarden? Claiming that talking ants in your book is a proof for the quran? Aren`t you the ones playing kindergarden by INSULTING the western culture but LIVING in the western world on welfare? how many christian arabs are running from persecution of your islamic countries? GO BACK to your praised islamic countries and if you are a german convert, LEAVE germany, how many germans are leaving..
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 2.) their country because they dislike germany? You are the kindergarden provocating the germans, acting like you are the victims but planting the seed of hate against germans, this is pierre Vogels "wo sagte ich jemals etwas schlimmes? Ich bin ein Friedensaktivist!" he is planting hatred in the hearts of brainless Rasims to prepare them to jihad. Who is the kid now coward?
@Mrguitarbeginner79 my last word to you follow Koran and all what does not contradict the Koran, therefore study the Koran to know what is true and what is false, follow the sunna of the prophet sas, the true one is the one which does not oppose the Koran and follow his sas wisdom and medecine and advises which do not oppose the Koran, pray to god for guidance and forgiveness, Germany showed too much hatred against god's religion and is punished, fear and horror from god to the godless.
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 so germany is to be punished BY ALLAH acc to you? And muslims are there to make the charge against germany ? Germany is a bad country? I KNOW you will NEVER answer- you coward! Keep your koranshit by yourself. We in Germany say Fuck Allah and his koran by drinking alkohol, having free sex, punishing muslims if they force women into the burqa by violence, not allowing pedophilia etc. are Germans now the enemies of Allah who needs to be targeted by jihad? YOUR WORDS, not mine
I can't believe how Christians claim to be all loving and friendly people when they are NOT. All I hear and see is hatred and insults from Christians all over the web. Almost every Islamic video i visit, i would see a Christians insulting Islam and Muslims.
Allah says.
Do you command the people to do good and forget to do so yourselvesBaqarah; 44
@Lewanai21 ok you donkey here im insult you so you be happy but the 1 thing that you dont like to hear is quran insulting jews and christian and calling us son of money's and pigs and your own holy book insulting others you stupid ...
That's where you have got it all wrong. Insult me or call me whatever nasty names you want, it only shows what your religion and parents have taught you. The verses you are talking about are narrations. Jews and Christians have been called "the people of the book" in several chapters of the Quran but little do you guys know. Stop taking verses out of the context and read the whole chapter before you point your fingers at us. You make me laugh.
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 2.) Well lets say a monkey corrupted Allahs bible, just for the sake of argument, I do only want to know if the monkey was Allah`s agent of corruption or enemy of Allah by corrupting the bible., Did you get it now smartRahmanabdul?
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 and thanks for confirming that you are just a kid with a serious mental problem by the statement of claiming to have "knowledge"....no need to argue with you any longer, that statement shows your madness but I know, you haven`t noticed it yet....poor Jamal
@Mrguitarbeginner79 in compare to you a Kindergarten Kid can say it has knowledge and it will be no exaggeration, I feel compassion for sick people in your case my compassion is limited because I feel you yourself want to be sick so I do not want to force you to become sober... la ikraha fee aldeeni
@Mrguitarbeginner79 Oh to answer this: In Islam I am not allowed to kill unless for retaliation or in war defense, even in war I am not allowed to kill hypocrites if they join a party which whom we have peace treaty, so how in times of peace am I allowed to kill apostates- only if the apostate is doing fitna and fight muslims if he is peaceful I even would not know he is a apostate and why killing innocent peaceful people, even in Koran Allah swt gives those the chance to come back to deen.
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 3.) Well, if someone leaves Islam doesn`t he declare war against Allah, his Prophet and the muslim ummah? Doesn`t he say by his action of leaving Islam that Islam is fake? Don`t tell me about peace treaties in Islam, your Prophet was the best of breaking peace treaties, like you are doing now in the german section, now you are looking for reasons that the kuffar are discriminating the muslims, so now you have the reason to declare war to the kuffar don`t you?
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 4.) But as I told you, if we kuffar are so bad and our culture so disgusting, why don`t you take your carpet, Kuran and everything belonging to you and get the hell out of our so bad countries? Our countries guarantee you THIS FREEDOM to leave ASAP. You will never againg hear one bad word of us if you are going to mekkha, build a tent in the desert and then you can have all the prayers you want. My advice Jamalrahman, don`t you EVER think that you are smart as a muslim
There are TONS of myths and legends outside of the quran of talkin animals from the ancient times. Do all those stories proof that the quran is true? The Ant and the Grasshopper from Jean-Baptiste Oudry, is he a rasul allah? YOU Muslims consider this stupid story in the quran a proof, so what about all the stories, legend and myths outside the quran? We do have talking ants in the american indian mythology...stupid muslims
@Mrguitarbeginner79 not 1400 years ago and not before the Koran and not talking ants, as you are a hater of Islam everything in islam is stupid , but believe me it is not Islam, you are indeed ;)
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 isn`t it prooven that Moe stole knowledge from the ancients? DENY IT! be brave Mahmut. Say, no my prophet moe did not stole knowledge from the ancient greeks, babylonians etc. and we`ll have our debate. There are myths of talking ants from the mayan indian even in asia talking birds and ants WAY older than 1400 yrs. Mahmut, but since you are just a Yusuf, I can`t expect anything better than ignorance
@Mrguitarbeginner79 it is you are not using the ratio and I think you have big problems to manage this, why shall Muhammad sas steal knowledge of the ancient and in this ancient knowledges were still mistakes how did he sas know to distinguish bewteen right and wrong so that nothing of the wrong entered the Koran, but you are disbeliever so you do not want to understand and I feel your ignoramce is tremendous, so why shall I convince you, here is more to understand but leave it to you,
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 NO IbrahimTatlisiz, there are many many mistakes in the koran, flat earth, women having sperm in their loins, iron was "sent down" from the heavens, stars are missles against jinns, many contradictions, foolish claims, historical errors etc etc. The Koran is a book of pure idiocy. It is just a very little amount of knowledge and they are ALL proven to be stolen from ancient cultures. You are the stupid believing in shit and you know that....
@Mrguitarbeginner79 I have studied the Koran and a hater like you is just repeating all the stupid arguments on the net, I am not willing to give here a exegesis but I can tell you for sure that there are very good workouts on this misunderstanding and wrong concepts especially resulting from false translation respectively when it comes to scintific notions, in detailed translation the words are not precise and do not reflect the scitific exact meaning, the translators mostly are not scientists
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 1.) you can not even answer if allahs bible is corrupted by or against his will, what exegsis wannabepierrevogel? what good workouts? liars like you or Zakir Nayk or even Harun Yahya? What wrong translation? you can NOT understand the koran acc Sura 3:7 cause you refuse ALL islamic authority explaining the quran such as Bukharry, Muslim, Al jalalayn, Ibn Abbas, I watched your videos you tried to proof that all those scholars are idiots, so what do you want to tell me?
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 2.) you claim to be an alim but you know SHIT. you dare to say that you are the one who understands Koran by logic. Well doesn`t your god say that you can not trust logic comparing to his word? Wasn`t it your god saying that there are things you dislike but in truth good for you and vice versa? you only reflect madness, narcism and other mental problems.
@Mrguitarbeginner79 why shall I answer you what I have already done in other discussions while you are too ignorant and superficial in your thinking to grasp the meaning so I cannot help you, in Sura 3:7 it is pretty clear that there are verses mutashabihatun which taweel only Allah swt knows, for example Allah swt throne no alim can tell you exactly what this is or heaven or hell because Allah swt describes us this as mathalan which means sort of parables explaining with known words the unkown
@Mrguitarignorant79 the light verse explains this clearly Allah swt poses mathalan to human beings which means these known words represent the taweel which only Allah swt does know, this corresponds with the ahadith explaining heavn and hell places which no one ever have seen..so it is logic for everyone that no alim has knowledge even the prophet sas has to say in the Koran that he sas has no knowledge of the unseen, only what Allah swt allows him sas to know so how can in this context 3:7
@MrGuitarstupid79 be understood in a different way emphasizing that even the tafsir of the mutashabihatun verses leads to fitna in which verses where only Allah swt knows the taweel will be made up a single tafsir not allowing any other those do make fitna and the remedy for this- in Koran- ist stated- all comes from our lord and we believe therein. Here the ulema underline that the understanding of the mutashabihatun verse is restricted to the frame of the muhkamatun verses, so the tafsir
@Mrguitarnothingknower79 of the mutashabihatun verses have not to contradict the muhkamatun verses, in this frame the tafsir is allowed and restricted to one as the taweel is only known to Allah swt.
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 NO the verse is funny in the first place, once Allah said the Koran is clear and plain, then he says that only he knows the koran. So why read it in the first place? Then the very verse says how to obtain the true knowledge, by saying we believe (without being critical) and everything is from Allah... So who are those who has the true meaning? you? and all the scholars of Islam are stupid? Unbelievers maybe?
@Mrguitarbeginner79 what a Kindergarten you are! What is difficult to understand that the Koran is pretty clear it has rules and laws and clear descriptions about the hereafter, only a Kindergarten like you does not understand that we have no knowledge of the hereafter but it is described to us in matahlan parables in known words whereas the known
@MrGuitarIgnorant79 word stand as variable for the real meaning behing which we will know at the day of resurrection, what is here difficult to understand, only a stupid beginner like you has no deep understanding. I feel that you have no understanding at all, even a small child can understand we human beings are presented the hereafter as matahlan , how else since we have never seen it it is described to us in know words. Oh dear are you stupid, no logic at all but insultive like a madman lol
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 so are you telling me that the koran ONLY has rules for the hereafter? Did you noticed that you are screwed now? So all the rules that are clear are for this life and those who no one can understand are those for the hereafter? is that what you are trying to say?
@Mrguitarbeginner79 hahahaha I did not say this the Koran explains in 3:7 muhkamatun and mutashabihatun, one category is for this life all laws and the other are the descriptions of the hereafter as mathalan with known words but we can not take it word by word as we not know the meaning behind as no one ever has seen the hereafter, how can you now ask this stupid question??
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 so ONE CATEGORY is for THIS LIFE and the OTHER for the HEREAFTER. Well that Allah uses words only donkeys and NO MUSLIM can understand is not the point of our discussion. The point is that acc to YOUR WORDS, that there is ONE CATEGORY for this life and the OTHER CATEGORY for the hereafter. get the point mahmut? Now, again, which ONE of your categories is clear and which one no muslim can understand cause Allah uses KNOWN words only monkeys can understand?
it can be they do not know all creatures by identifying name since Sulaiman as was given the gift to understand them and also to reach them to communicate with them so could be this knowing by name the creatures surround them could be restricted to those who communicate with them in their language and Sulaiman as was given this gift by god.
they have an organized community and they are able to learn from experience, they can distinguish friend and enemy, they understand the intentions even the unwanted one they can sense the coming appraoching objects, they can use the hill to have a far sight to perceive they can name objects and creatures by name- so menas they can identify and recognize known creatures, subhan Allah- we learn much more about the ants in Koran then science tell us.
the interesting part is that the Quran translates the language of ants to human language which we can understand the sense of their communication correspond sto the human language as translated in Quran. So they adress themselves as being what they see themselves translated to us from the ants language to "ants", this means they know what they are, they have self conscience and name themselves translated to us how we name them, so to know that they adress themselves in their language.
so we learn from Koran they adress themselves, they can warn , they can understand coming dangers and they can name the creatures surround them even know them and their features, they know to hide and to warn and even they understand hostile attack and attack by hasard, they understand their size and that they can be overseen, they understand what they see , for esample being smashed or crushed, they understand to hurry and have a time understanding, they have responsibility to their fellowers
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 There are TONS of myths and legends outside of the quran of talkin animals from the ancient times. Do all those stories proof that the quran is true? The Ant and the Grasshopper from Jean-Baptiste Oudry, is he a rasul allah? YOU Muslims consider this stupid story in the quran a proof, so what about all the stories, legend and myths outside the quran? We do have talking ants in the american indian mythology...stupid muslims
this is just ignorant
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ITS EASY TAKE THE QURAN READ IT AND YOU FIND YOURSELF BROTHER YOU FIND TH TRUTH
Agron25121979 3 months ago
This is the stuff. :):):)
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The koran: a vain and futile attempt to clothe an otherwise naked and empty philosophy in some semblance of scientific credibility by invoking itself as its own written authority!
becharev 5 months ago
Try Deism
johnnink 6 months ago
lol this is stupid
thetimemexican 6 months ago
wama yaAAlamu taweelahu illa Allahu- no one knows the menaing but Allah and then the verse continues: waalrrasikhoona fee alAAilmi yaqooloona amanna bhi kullun min aaindi rabbina- and those full of knowledge say , we believe therein , all is from our lord. So waht is here difficult so taht you always re re re quest?? Too stupid better play the guitar looool even this you do not know as we can see from the nick, so you are the problem yourself with no knowledge at all telling me I have none loool
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 no you don`t have knowledge, you are a jahil trying to please the kuffar so they accept Islam, now tell me, do you have to kill someone who leave Islam? Say it in public so all your brothers and sisters see how hypocrete you are, trying to please the kuffar.
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
@Mrguitarsinner 79 @Mrguitarbeginner79 hahaha I am full of knowledge you are not you even did not get the clue point, if you like Islam but what I am saying, do not worry this is the truth and if you admit to like it then you yourself have the problem to believe it loool wow waht a stupid guy here!!!
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 so you are full of knowledge, thank you for this statement, this shows your real SICKNESS.
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
@Mrguitarbeginner79 I am preatty sad that in compare to you I am an alim ;)) this is fact not sick you have no knowledge about Islam onl Internet hatred of haters, hahaha this is copy paste my dear but no knowledge the madman is you, relatively in compare to you I am an alim, read my word and answers and your stupid Kindergarten questions. This is enought to get it ;)
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 you run AGAIN! coward you can not answer..Rasim, listen, by writing dumbshit and bullshit you do not disprove ONE point. Sure everyone who criticizes Islam is an idiot who copy and paste, read from the internet, an islamophobe...don`t you realize that this crap shows how fanatic and DUMB you are? Why do christians, buddhist, hindus etc accept critics on their faith? Because they do BELIEVE but you do only have shit in your brain.
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
@Mrguitarbeginner79 why shall I accept stupidity of a madman as critics or why shall I take it serious, show knowledge by questions which can be taken as critics but you only show insults and empty questions and even though I was so polite to answer to you...what do you expect to take a madman as topman ;)) no sorry I am not a pretender nor a liar.
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 blablablabla....of course everyone who says "Karim, I donb`t believe you, you talk shit" is a madman, a stupid an islamophobe etc, I know your cheap game. But believe me, this will backfire on you. well buddy, need to go to bed now. See you tomorow...still I want my EASY ANSWERS.
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
@Mrguitarbeginner79 read your words , you are knocked down , and only repeat you want answers, no answer can satisfy you in your stupidity only a psychic or mental doctor may help you but not youtube, so go sleep and take a rest after I put the blame on you of being nothing but a failure who tries to write against Islam with ignorance and no understanding respectively no survey in knowledge, sleep is better for you and your nerves.
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 1.) Rahman, listen to me, you muslims are slow, I DO need to repeat myself again and again if I want straight answers of you..Lets test it. My FIRST QUESTION ever: Was Allahs Bible corrupted AGAINST or BY his will? a simple and straight answer Rahman, where`s the problem? I don`t want to hear that the jews or paul corrupted the bible, I know all your theories I want to know if the corruption of the bible happend BY or AGAINST Allahs will.
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
@Mrguitarbeginner79 so I stop converstaion with you it is deepest insult to abuse the name of god for your Kindergarten, if you want to continue insulting go ahead, I could answer all your questions but why shall I answer to satan's servant who wants to go to hell, you made up your decision, bon voyage!
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
@SeashoreaTRUTH111.) you are not able to answer thats all. Aren`t you AbdulOmars playing the kindergarden? Claiming that talking ants in your book is a proof for the quran? Aren`t you the ones playing kindergarden by INSULTING the western culture but LIVING in the western world on welfare? how many christian arabs are running from persecution of your islamic countries? GO BACK to your praised islamic countries and if you are a german convert, LEAVE germany, how many germans are leaving..
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 2.) their country because they dislike germany? You are the kindergarden provocating the germans, acting like you are the victims but planting the seed of hate against germans, this is pierre Vogels "wo sagte ich jemals etwas schlimmes? Ich bin ein Friedensaktivist!" he is planting hatred in the hearts of brainless Rasims to prepare them to jihad. Who is the kid now coward?
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
@Mrguitarbeginner79 my last word to you follow Koran and all what does not contradict the Koran, therefore study the Koran to know what is true and what is false, follow the sunna of the prophet sas, the true one is the one which does not oppose the Koran and follow his sas wisdom and medecine and advises which do not oppose the Koran, pray to god for guidance and forgiveness, Germany showed too much hatred against god's religion and is punished, fear and horror from god to the godless.
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 so germany is to be punished BY ALLAH acc to you? And muslims are there to make the charge against germany ? Germany is a bad country? I KNOW you will NEVER answer- you coward! Keep your koranshit by yourself. We in Germany say Fuck Allah and his koran by drinking alkohol, having free sex, punishing muslims if they force women into the burqa by violence, not allowing pedophilia etc. are Germans now the enemies of Allah who needs to be targeted by jihad? YOUR WORDS, not mine
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
@Mrguitarbeginner79
I can't believe how Christians claim to be all loving and friendly people when they are NOT. All I hear and see is hatred and insults from Christians all over the web. Almost every Islamic video i visit, i would see a Christians insulting Islam and Muslims.
Allah says.
Do you command the people to do good and forget to do so yourselvesBaqarah; 44
Lewanai21 7 months ago 8
@Lewanai21 ok you donkey here im insult you so you be happy but the 1 thing that you dont like to hear is quran insulting jews and christian and calling us son of money's and pigs and your own holy book insulting others you stupid ...
mybeautifulislam 6 months ago
@mybeautifulislam
That's where you have got it all wrong. Insult me or call me whatever nasty names you want, it only shows what your religion and parents have taught you. The verses you are talking about are narrations. Jews and Christians have been called "the people of the book" in several chapters of the Quran but little do you guys know. Stop taking verses out of the context and read the whole chapter before you point your fingers at us. You make me laugh.
Lewanai21 5 months ago
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 2.) Well lets say a monkey corrupted Allahs bible, just for the sake of argument, I do only want to know if the monkey was Allah`s agent of corruption or enemy of Allah by corrupting the bible., Did you get it now smartRahmanabdul?
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 and thanks for confirming that you are just a kid with a serious mental problem by the statement of claiming to have "knowledge"....no need to argue with you any longer, that statement shows your madness but I know, you haven`t noticed it yet....poor Jamal
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
@Mrguitarbeginner79 in compare to you a Kindergarten Kid can say it has knowledge and it will be no exaggeration, I feel compassion for sick people in your case my compassion is limited because I feel you yourself want to be sick so I do not want to force you to become sober... la ikraha fee aldeeni
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
@Mrguitarbeginner79 Oh to answer this: In Islam I am not allowed to kill unless for retaliation or in war defense, even in war I am not allowed to kill hypocrites if they join a party which whom we have peace treaty, so how in times of peace am I allowed to kill apostates- only if the apostate is doing fitna and fight muslims if he is peaceful I even would not know he is a apostate and why killing innocent peaceful people, even in Koran Allah swt gives those the chance to come back to deen.
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 3.) Well, if someone leaves Islam doesn`t he declare war against Allah, his Prophet and the muslim ummah? Doesn`t he say by his action of leaving Islam that Islam is fake? Don`t tell me about peace treaties in Islam, your Prophet was the best of breaking peace treaties, like you are doing now in the german section, now you are looking for reasons that the kuffar are discriminating the muslims, so now you have the reason to declare war to the kuffar don`t you?
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 4.) But as I told you, if we kuffar are so bad and our culture so disgusting, why don`t you take your carpet, Kuran and everything belonging to you and get the hell out of our so bad countries? Our countries guarantee you THIS FREEDOM to leave ASAP. You will never againg hear one bad word of us if you are going to mekkha, build a tent in the desert and then you can have all the prayers you want. My advice Jamalrahman, don`t you EVER think that you are smart as a muslim
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
There are TONS of myths and legends outside of the quran of talkin animals from the ancient times. Do all those stories proof that the quran is true? The Ant and the Grasshopper from Jean-Baptiste Oudry, is he a rasul allah? YOU Muslims consider this stupid story in the quran a proof, so what about all the stories, legend and myths outside the quran? We do have talking ants in the american indian mythology...stupid muslims
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
@Mrguitarbeginner79 not 1400 years ago and not before the Koran and not talking ants, as you are a hater of Islam everything in islam is stupid , but believe me it is not Islam, you are indeed ;)
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 isn`t it prooven that Moe stole knowledge from the ancients? DENY IT! be brave Mahmut. Say, no my prophet moe did not stole knowledge from the ancient greeks, babylonians etc. and we`ll have our debate. There are myths of talking ants from the mayan indian even in asia talking birds and ants WAY older than 1400 yrs. Mahmut, but since you are just a Yusuf, I can`t expect anything better than ignorance
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
@Mrguitarbeginner79 it is you are not using the ratio and I think you have big problems to manage this, why shall Muhammad sas steal knowledge of the ancient and in this ancient knowledges were still mistakes how did he sas know to distinguish bewteen right and wrong so that nothing of the wrong entered the Koran, but you are disbeliever so you do not want to understand and I feel your ignoramce is tremendous, so why shall I convince you, here is more to understand but leave it to you,
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 NO IbrahimTatlisiz, there are many many mistakes in the koran, flat earth, women having sperm in their loins, iron was "sent down" from the heavens, stars are missles against jinns, many contradictions, foolish claims, historical errors etc etc. The Koran is a book of pure idiocy. It is just a very little amount of knowledge and they are ALL proven to be stolen from ancient cultures. You are the stupid believing in shit and you know that....
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
@Mrguitarbeginner79 I have studied the Koran and a hater like you is just repeating all the stupid arguments on the net, I am not willing to give here a exegesis but I can tell you for sure that there are very good workouts on this misunderstanding and wrong concepts especially resulting from false translation respectively when it comes to scintific notions, in detailed translation the words are not precise and do not reflect the scitific exact meaning, the translators mostly are not scientists
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 1.) you can not even answer if allahs bible is corrupted by or against his will, what exegsis wannabepierrevogel? what good workouts? liars like you or Zakir Nayk or even Harun Yahya? What wrong translation? you can NOT understand the koran acc Sura 3:7 cause you refuse ALL islamic authority explaining the quran such as Bukharry, Muslim, Al jalalayn, Ibn Abbas, I watched your videos you tried to proof that all those scholars are idiots, so what do you want to tell me?
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 2.) you claim to be an alim but you know SHIT. you dare to say that you are the one who understands Koran by logic. Well doesn`t your god say that you can not trust logic comparing to his word? Wasn`t it your god saying that there are things you dislike but in truth good for you and vice versa? you only reflect madness, narcism and other mental problems.
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
@Mrguitarbeginner79 why shall I answer you what I have already done in other discussions while you are too ignorant and superficial in your thinking to grasp the meaning so I cannot help you, in Sura 3:7 it is pretty clear that there are verses mutashabihatun which taweel only Allah swt knows, for example Allah swt throne no alim can tell you exactly what this is or heaven or hell because Allah swt describes us this as mathalan which means sort of parables explaining with known words the unkown
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
@Mrguitarignorant79 the light verse explains this clearly Allah swt poses mathalan to human beings which means these known words represent the taweel which only Allah swt does know, this corresponds with the ahadith explaining heavn and hell places which no one ever have seen..so it is logic for everyone that no alim has knowledge even the prophet sas has to say in the Koran that he sas has no knowledge of the unseen, only what Allah swt allows him sas to know so how can in this context 3:7
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
@MrGuitarstupid79 be understood in a different way emphasizing that even the tafsir of the mutashabihatun verses leads to fitna in which verses where only Allah swt knows the taweel will be made up a single tafsir not allowing any other those do make fitna and the remedy for this- in Koran- ist stated- all comes from our lord and we believe therein. Here the ulema underline that the understanding of the mutashabihatun verse is restricted to the frame of the muhkamatun verses, so the tafsir
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
@Mrguitarnothingknower79 of the mutashabihatun verses have not to contradict the muhkamatun verses, in this frame the tafsir is allowed and restricted to one as the taweel is only known to Allah swt.
This is the right understanding of 3:7
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 NO the verse is funny in the first place, once Allah said the Koran is clear and plain, then he says that only he knows the koran. So why read it in the first place? Then the very verse says how to obtain the true knowledge, by saying we believe (without being critical) and everything is from Allah... So who are those who has the true meaning? you? and all the scholars of Islam are stupid? Unbelievers maybe?
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
@Mrguitarbeginner79 what a Kindergarten you are! What is difficult to understand that the Koran is pretty clear it has rules and laws and clear descriptions about the hereafter, only a Kindergarten like you does not understand that we have no knowledge of the hereafter but it is described to us in matahlan parables in known words whereas the known
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
@MrGuitarIgnorant79 word stand as variable for the real meaning behing which we will know at the day of resurrection, what is here difficult to understand, only a stupid beginner like you has no deep understanding. I feel that you have no understanding at all, even a small child can understand we human beings are presented the hereafter as matahlan , how else since we have never seen it it is described to us in know words. Oh dear are you stupid, no logic at all but insultive like a madman lol
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 so are you telling me that the koran ONLY has rules for the hereafter? Did you noticed that you are screwed now? So all the rules that are clear are for this life and those who no one can understand are those for the hereafter? is that what you are trying to say?
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
@Mrguitarbeginner79 hahahaha I did not say this the Koran explains in 3:7 muhkamatun and mutashabihatun, one category is for this life all laws and the other are the descriptions of the hereafter as mathalan with known words but we can not take it word by word as we not know the meaning behind as no one ever has seen the hereafter, how can you now ask this stupid question??
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 so ONE CATEGORY is for THIS LIFE and the OTHER for the HEREAFTER. Well that Allah uses words only donkeys and NO MUSLIM can understand is not the point of our discussion. The point is that acc to YOUR WORDS, that there is ONE CATEGORY for this life and the OTHER CATEGORY for the hereafter. get the point mahmut? Now, again, which ONE of your categories is clear and which one no muslim can understand cause Allah uses KNOWN words only monkeys can understand?
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
it can be they do not know all creatures by identifying name since Sulaiman as was given the gift to understand them and also to reach them to communicate with them so could be this knowing by name the creatures surround them could be restricted to those who communicate with them in their language and Sulaiman as was given this gift by god.
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
they have an organized community and they are able to learn from experience, they can distinguish friend and enemy, they understand the intentions even the unwanted one they can sense the coming appraoching objects, they can use the hill to have a far sight to perceive they can name objects and creatures by name- so menas they can identify and recognize known creatures, subhan Allah- we learn much more about the ants in Koran then science tell us.
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
the interesting part is that the Quran translates the language of ants to human language which we can understand the sense of their communication correspond sto the human language as translated in Quran. So they adress themselves as being what they see themselves translated to us from the ants language to "ants", this means they know what they are, they have self conscience and name themselves translated to us how we name them, so to know that they adress themselves in their language.
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
so we learn from Koran they adress themselves, they can warn , they can understand coming dangers and they can name the creatures surround them even know them and their features, they know to hide and to warn and even they understand hostile attack and attack by hasard, they understand their size and that they can be overseen, they understand what they see , for esample being smashed or crushed, they understand to hurry and have a time understanding, they have responsibility to their fellowers
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
s super video, genius!!
SeashoreaTRUTH11 8 months ago
@SeashoreaTRUTH11 There are TONS of myths and legends outside of the quran of talkin animals from the ancient times. Do all those stories proof that the quran is true? The Ant and the Grasshopper from Jean-Baptiste Oudry, is he a rasul allah? YOU Muslims consider this stupid story in the quran a proof, so what about all the stories, legend and myths outside the quran? We do have talking ants in the american indian mythology...stupid muslims
Mrguitarbeginner79 8 months ago
Why is Quran being question about it being "lucky" rather than just taking the fact the Quran is the true book from God?
LittleLuckk 1 year ago 3
ALLAHU AKBAR!
Nizarano 1 year ago 2