Could Your House Burn While The Fire Truck Turns?

[GP9railfan]

That city needs to invest in a snow melting machine if it's that big a problem.

[robertgift]

RESTRICT VEHICLES FROM PARKING NEAR INTERSECTIONS - NOT THENTIRE SIDE OF STREETS.

Then fire apparatus can make the turns and traverse the streets.

At the beginning of this video, the engineer (firetruck driver) should trust his guide and turn the wheel as guide directs.

The truck had more room that the engineer did not perceive.

Had he steered left a few more inches, would he have been able to complete his turn?

[highcountrytimber]

Get a smaller apparatus.

[digger2087]

I'm on a volunteer fd in Canada and our trucks cover 100 square kms and we don't even have one truck that big! But how ever we do have 4 plus a pick up with just tools which goes out first. As of for streets we get more snow up here and never had an issue with parking or losing lanes to snow l!!!! Looks like they need to think about there snow removel plain!!!!

[ntfd125]

I don't see Cleveland, New York, or Buffalo having a problem like this. Maybe the city needs to find a better way to handle snow removal.

[carryclass]

looks like a house with a garage is more of a necessity than a luxury

[Crazyfogfighter]

simple Fix, don't buy super big fat firetrucks with basically no equipment!

In europe we don't have such problems very frequently, though our streets are much smaller.

But still we carry more personnel, more equipment and our trucks are probably half-size of american ones

[ntfd125]

@Crazyfogfighter Our apparatus are built to meet our needs. I also highly doubt your truck company (Aerial) carries more than ours.

[Crazyfogfighter]

@ntfd125 We don't have Truckies, our Ladders are only staffed by 1-3 FF, they basically carry the ladder, a jump pad and and some small tools and hoses.

All of the equipment, for fires, MVA, rescues and ventilation (a tactic we only use very rarely) are on ONE pumper, which weight around 60% of One of your Engines.

And the crew is 6-9, not 4-6 Members.

The trucks are smaller, shorter, lighter and carry more.

Okay, we have less powerful pumps a not that much hoses, but a lot more tools.

[ntfd125]

@Crazyfogfighter Of course your engines will carry more. You don't have nearly the same size tank or pump. The new engines can carry 4-8 firefighters but most departments run 4 or 3 and sometimes 2. Our truck companies are larger because they carry a large compliment of tools from salvage covers to k-12's and MVA equipment. As I said our apparatus are built to meet our needs.

[Crazyfogfighter]

@ntfd125 we usually carry around 250-300 gallons of water, our pumps can do 500 gmp at 175 psi.

Of course you have different needs, and due to the pretty bad hydrant system and the higher buildings you need stronger pumps and more water, but the trucks are still totally oversized and overweight due to the loss of americans to build efficient vehicles.

[ntfd125]

@Crazyfogfighter Our engines hold 750-1000 gallons and flow around 1500gpm. It would be impossible for us to use a vehicle of your size. We wouldn't be able to carry a quarter of the amount of hose we do now. I would like to see us try to use one of your engines and do the same job we do now.

[Crazyfogfighter]

@ntfd125 as I said, you would probably need more, but look a the rig in this video, why the heck would you need 750-1000 gallons within city limits? A several kilometers of hose?!

We do carry less water and hose, but more equipment at all here, because we have plenty, not only 2-3 Engines at a house fire.

Most (rural) american FDs are understaffed, so the try to compensate it with bigger rig, it doesn't work to good obviously.

[ntfd125]

@Crazyfogfighter There isn't 1000 gallons. Trucks only carry around 300 gallons. Why so much hose? What happens if you get a dead plug or you need a secondary water supply or even third. Most truck companies do not carry supply line but we carry multiple extension ladders ranging from 20ft to 40ft which requires the longer body. Plus the amount of equipment it carries we need more compartments.

[fireman98826]

do what San Francisco did, build your firetrucks smaller to suit your streets. duh

[RMRNetwork]

If it was in action, it would of rammed right threw the cars.

[EnjoyFirefighting]

"compact" and "maneuverable" - two words you can't use together with "US Fire Trucks" in one sentence, except you say NOT compact/maneuverable.

Seriously even as it might be strange for american FD, they should also have smaller trucks. Just look at the Rosenbauer AT 3 generation: /watch?v=Qesl9jhu57I

that's the size where we can go on any normal street and still carry everything we need

[marcelrotgans]

i think those fire trucks look pretty cool but they are way to big to fit in a small street like that

[ghostdevill]

Try some european firetrucks because american firetrucks are to big and don,t know the meaning of the word compact!!!

[skateskool100]

Heres a tip. SEND A SMALLER TRUCK!!!

[joek0617]

@skateskool100 they don't make smaller ladders that carry the right equipment that they need

[birdsboro7]

@joek0617 yes they do im a jr ff at 2 fire companys and on of them has a ladder that can fit anywhere

[joek0617]

@birdsboro7 really? it carry the same amount of equip?... besides the streets here, what with the snow, can barely fit a truck going straight, let alone turning

[birdsboro7]

@joek0617 yea everything u need not all the bs stuff they people think is cool

[CTFD13]

@skateskool100 so you would rather not have a dedicated truck, that is assigned the tasks of search and rescue and ventilation, and have special equipment on that truck for those purposes, come to the scene. thats smart. so what do you do if you need the 100' ladder? kinda hard to tell them not to come when everyone has their jobs to do.

[skateskool100]

@CTFD13 With the snow buildup, i ment they should send a utility unit.

[EnjoyFirefighting]

@CTFD13 well our three ladders are 100ft. and are much (!) more compact. Each of them carry power generators, ventilators and some smaller tools, all the other equipment is on the Engines (they allways arrive on scene at the same time) which are btw. also more compact. And I can tell you sth about small streets: the historic center of my city is 2000 years old, and at that time the Romans didn't really think of that there might be big trucks in the future :)

[PhysicsTowerTeam]

You know, fire trucks don't always respond to house fires. Only a fraction are,

[wannabenj]

Hey,try doing what this unlucky firefighter is attempting to do.Driving a fire truck is tremendously difficult.Worse yet getting it in the house.The doors are so narrow you have to butter the truck up to get it in.That is the toughest job there is.Give credit.

[ManGlock2011]

WOW!! I totaly understand why mpls declares parking bans for snow fall. THANK YOU!!! for showing me why.

[daltondaddy16]

your voice is like nails on a chalk board

[joemagliari]

i see what they're trying to get to the community .....but thats why most cities like nyc got tillers.

[SPCLPONY]

I can't say for all of the streets, but I agree with fdjcengine2, this street looks like there would be room for a diagonal parking area facing the park. Asking people to not park near the corners wouldn't be acceptable. The car owners would be forced to park on another street that probably has the same problem.

[Crazyfogfighter]

i dont know. here in germany we have smaller streets, smaller trucks, but the size of the ladder ist the same, and we harly have problems!

[biggunn94]

you cant have smaller trucks!!!! fire trucks are to expensive already!! these trucks are over 7 to 8 feet wide, any smaller you want have the gear that you need to fight fires!!!

[EnjoyFirefighting]

@biggunn94 well it IS possible to fit everything you need also in smaller trucks. Otherwise we wouldn't be able to fight fires in a 2000 year old city center with narrow streets. And in bi cities like Munich, the Fire Department just bought 58 new engines, smaller engines than the ones they used before, and alle the things still fit in

[alpha18412]

No offense but with a voice like your's you should avoid narrating videos.

[flyboymd82]

Uhm. In most Cities like the one I live in, its illegal to park a car within 40 feet of an intersection year round. REAL DIFFICULT CONCEPT HUH??

Guess those 'highly educated liberals'(LOL) in MN can't figure that one out!

[trmptplyr100]

That is a sweet looking fire truck.

[tannalv]

"prolonged cold" - it's because of the global warming. The global warming is to blame for the cold weather and long winters.

[gamefreak1000000]

@tannalv LOL I didn't know people still believe in that B.S. I call this Global Cooling xD

[freeridemtb2]

simple fix, paint the curbs red a certain number of feet from each corner. Some cities already do this.

[EnjoyFirefighting]

@freeridemtb2 in Germany there's a law that you aren't allowed to park in a 5 meters range from a intersection, if you have a big vehicle (like bus, delivery truck) that might block the other drivers view to the other roads, you aren't allowed to park in a 10 meters range. Reason is simply traffic safety and of course also that big fire engines could make their way

[Bbfishman]

@freeridemtb2 simple fix??? theres snow covering the curbs, wat good is that gunna be

[Africanisse]

@freeridemtb2

or get some smaller trucks :)

[lawdog2008]

@freeridemtb2 yeah they could do that, but do you happen to see all that white stuff on the curbs, do you have x-ray vision? Cause I sure as hell don't and I am sure they don't either.

[bartsch04]

are you going to paint over snow you dumb ass!

[gjn00100]

@freeridemtb2 you cant see paint when snow is on top of it

[Badchoicesmade]

@freeridemtb2 you won't be able to see it when there's snow, and you won't have the problem if there isn't snow

[fdjcengine2]

There are places where the streets are narrow all year . A good example would be chinatown in Manhatten. They use Tillers in areas like that. As far as the parking problem goes, Enforce a 100 ft parking zone from the corners & strictly enforce it. The other thing they could do is the side people can park on, make it diagnal parking to fit more cars on 1 side.

[joek0617]

@fdjcengine2 that would defeat the whole purpose, normally, the streat is wider, but the snowbanks make it pretty narrow

[lorimneal]

what these fools should do is melt the snow like they do at the malls and the airport and let the water run into the sewer. Gee-zus!

[Teenagefreedomfightr]

The salt wrecks roads and especially cars.

[lorimneal]

honey, salt is still used on the roads regardless! the airport and the malls use hot water to melt the snow. that is what I was proposing the City do instead of jacking up the parking.

[Teenagefreedomfightr]

I'm not certain what the common practice is in Minneapolis, but here they salt every time it snows and car panels rust up in a matter of a couple years and the roads get "frost heaves" from the constant melting and refreezing of ice.

[Gutsyndicate]

This is both good and bad. First of all it's bad because parking will be scarce and ppl will be killing each other over parking, soon you will see shooting and fights over parking. second it's good because I live in Minneapolis and I drive a bus, and I know what they are talking about. you got two cars parked on sides, and two cars trying to pass each other, it's impossible. they should build wider streets next time, or build underground or parking ramps.

[Teenagefreedomfightr]

No offense but you guys should probably see how we do it in Mass. Although we may not have the same cold weather we definitely get plenty of snow. Here if your car is hit by an emergency vehicle they'll say sorry and will cover it but the simple fact is they had to save lives.

[kyle3089]

@Teenagefreedomfightr but who wants to hit a car and damage your apparatus even to get to the call? its gonna piss the guy you hit off. its gonna piss you guys off becayse you just destroyed the bumper on the front of your brand new truck and its gonna really piss the city off for having to repair not only your fire truck but the dudes car too

[Teenagefreedomfightr]

I guess you've never driven In Massachusetts lol. The fire truck's don't get damaged and it's not like they go around hitting every car, but when they have to save a life they do what needs to be done.

[51ENGINE51]

Really? thats interesting, to bad that would never work in fucking liberalist california

[Teenagefreedomfightr]

Uh... Massachusetts is quite liberal, probably more so than California. Although that doesn't have any relevance here.

PS The word is liberal.

[51ENGINE51]

i dont think so CALI is super liberal

[68Engine68]

@Teenagefreedomfightr How we do it in MA? We dont ram cars with our rigs, like kyle said they try to avoid damaging rigs, yes accidents happen but usualy even in an emergency they try to not ram shit and get their rig taken away to the shops for repairs which start to be costly very fast. And for frost heaves thats when water gets under the road and freezes and then thaws not surface water.