Scott cut this out because he realised it would break the flow of the movie AND he decided the last shot of Dallas in the tunnel was a classic moment and that the audience would react better if Dallas just plain dissapeared into thin air.
Although he is in fact to be a host.... like the coccooned woman in Aliens, he is biologically deteriorating due to the coccooning process draining his fluids. It suggests this helps the Xenomorph develop quicker... perhaps because of our immune system resisting the initial implantation. By the way it was Scott who cut this scene as the Theatrical Edition is actually his version, and FOX released the "Director's" cut without his permission. He didn't want Dallas reappearing in the end.
This (as well as Aliens) and Pitch Black were the only movies that legitimately scared me as a kid. This scene, albeit a deleted one, just adds to that.
@blueindivdual Great point. The Alien clearly rapes Lambert from the sound she making and her leg seen dangling shes clearly naked and bloody. Some the ideas that were scrapped from this movie appeared in species with Eve running around looking for a suitable subject to mate with. This was meant to be an alien abuse story but was probably decided to play safe. I like it either way. But we I can read between the editing.
@chozology Nah, this was just something I breezed through where Newt was recapping what she went through to some psychiatrist. I think its the first in the series.
Everything about this film is great; it's easily the best and most disturbing. Everything from the Bizarre distress signal to the fossilized Space Jockey is freaky. The windy surface of Archeron in particular scares me.
The Alien was ment to be something different entirely before James Cameron turned them into space bugs. Ridley said the creature was ment to be a hybrid between it's Alien side and host, being human in this case which explains it's form. The Egg morphing method was it's alien way of reproducing, but he also claims that it raped Lambert and possibly got her pregnant which was it's human side. I think this is much better than what came after Aliens & the sequels.
Creepy, yes, but a great scene. My guess would be that if the environment wasn't suitable for a full hive or if there weren't enough facehuggers to match the number of hosts, then those who had been taken by the Aliens would be transformed into the eggs, using both the host's and the Xeno's DNA to produce a new egg. Disgusting, but a reasonably theory.
I found an archive of the Alien comics online. And the one I read suggested that the ALIENS don't leave anything behind. That they would use everything even after you were dead. So bodies would be used to create more eggs and facehuggers. No mating, no queens. Just a biological process of rearranging matter that would be strange and different.
@anygame By any chance was that the comic where the Aliens are fighting the other predatory species on their planet? I never understood why they were human hybrids on some distant world? =/
@superwickedlester The problem with all scifi today is is all follows a neat and predictable pattern. This was originally intended to present something different. But it ended up on the cutting room floor. I loved Star Trek like most scifi buffs but it doesnt mean everything after needs to follow their formula. The Syfy Network on cable is almost unwatchable because they dont know how to push the envelope. Or atleast try something different.
I read the sequence take place after Parker and Lambert death. I think is it true that it brakes the action's flow, but if they shot it they had to have a good reason for Ripley to go down there!
The whole queen thing was an afterthought for the second movie which was not even considered yet. You were supposed to get all you needed from the first movie. Any movie that does 10 million opening weekend in 1979 is gonna command a sequel.
Most people cant think outside the box. Forget life as we know it here on earth and think about a reproductive process that has nothing to do with us. This was meant to be something ALIEN, so its supposed to be foriegn to you. Consider that the salivating is more than just spit. And what if the bite was meant to take something, not just to kill. Perhaps gathering the genetic material it needs to reproduce. Bret was used for material while Dallas was to be the next host. The whole queen thing wa
Brett was put inside an egg.. What would have happened if she let them hang.. The xeno is way too small to lay that size of an egg.. It must have grown in order to lay it... So it must have become a preatorian or something.. Tjeck out the maggots on Breet, apparently they have flies on board as well.
personally i belived that if they had no queen to make eggs,they would turn their victems into eggs untill the time being.since this xeno was the only one on board it was its only option.
This also fuels them being the ''perfect lifeform''
@Soulcastthewolf yeah well it's ridley scott's vision, not yours. "personally" doesn't cut it.
this gives great insight into how they imagined the creature's reproduction cycle. also scott didn't like cameron's half assed military vision. so the queen crap never really happened.
also, bulletcurtain, they're biomechanic creatures, they don't eat. they only survive and kill because they're engineered that way.
@zackhanscom the film was created as an attempt to "re-make" the ideas of the origional comic-books. which had been around far longer than this film. and the lifecycle in the origional comics was queen and egg :D
I have a question for everyone, what do aliens EAT? Presumably they eat the humans, but I can't remember any scenes from any of the movies where you see them eating. Or maybe they get their energy from photosynthesis (jk)?
@MarkFaust Thanks! I guess I never noticed that scene. I wonder if Ridley Scott intended the aliens to eat humans from the beginning, or if he never considered what they eat.
They should've kept this I the movie cos I the second one newt gets taken by the Alien and it only makes sense that ripley knows she's alive if you've seen this scene.
Usually I agree with most cut scenes staying on the cutting room floor. Although this one was damn good, considering the fact that we knew so little about the alien throughout the first movie. This would have made this scene particularly horrifying i.e. "what was it doing to them?" etc. Anyone know why it was removed? Maybe perhaps Scott thought it was too 'much' or too 'gory' for a film based primarily on suspense?
Ridley initially cut this out from the original because he said it made no sense that Ripley, running for her life for the escape pod would go down into the bowel's of the ship.
There was to have been a scene where Parker and Ripley cornered the Alien and it lost it's hand to an airlock door but later grew it back.
Remember reading that Ridley thought of the Alien has having a short lifespan in which it had to reproduce, which is why it was so violent and cold.
Thanks for posting this. I see from previous comments that people are trying to think out the answers... The horror is in not knowing the limitations of the capabilities of the Aliens. Not knowing what they are doing or why. Food or reproduction? Cocooning to use the human bodies for some part of genetic transformation or reproduction... Immobilising people and subjecting them to horrific thing without mercy. It's all to get the imagination going. I think there should have been no more mo
I don't think Dallas was being turned into an egg, I think he was being cocooned as a host for the facehugger that would have come out of the egg Brett was turning into. That's why Brett was killed (for use as raw organic matter) and Dallas was kept alive (as a living host, like the collonists were in Aliens).
Wow, this is pretty terrifying, even more so than the Queen concept introduced in Aliens. I'd be willing to accept both as canon, provided that this method is used by a drone Alien to produce eggs without a Queen, but that means it could modify it's own structure to lay eggs. Yep, this method is definitely, absolutely, scary as all hell. Just look at Dallas' face, he's not dead yet but hardly human anymore.
This film was completely fantastic, however this scene I dislike because to me it doesn't actually make sense. (Why are they changing into eggs?) Also this scene scares the actual shit outta me! :L But I just dislike how it broke up the pacing of Ripley's escape and my failure to understand it. The Original (Not Director's Cut) in my opinion is better. Anyway no arguement intended!
I have seen fan theories in which both reproduction cycles are combined, one being a non regular method and the other being more regular (Queen laying egss).
But to be honest, I would have preferred if this has been the one that was used as it makes the xenomorph only more alien rather than some pissed off ant, bee, or wasp.
@TheDutchGhost Except that Riddley himself mentions certain insects being part of the inspiration for the creature. Specifically insects that lay their eggs in/on host insects so that the larvae hatch and eat the host (not unlike digger and spider wasps). It's in his commentary. So really, they was a certain precedent for them being the universes worst insect...after a fasion...
@GermanChocolateCake I understand your point but I do hope you understand me when when I say that the xenomorph was a great example of the ultimate 'other' before they were given a insect hive structure with a queen, soldiers, workers etc.
They took that otherness and possible non human intelligence away from the creature in Aliens.
@TheDutchGhost I get where you are coming from. It's not unlike actual science where the expectation is that if we ever discover alien life, we should be prepared for the possibility that it will be far different from any frame of reference we have on Earth.
And you hit upon a salient element of horror. The fear of the unknown and perhaps unknowable is one of the fundamental elements of true terror.
@predlycon because at that time in movies women were not strong characters and it was to make you think that dallas would be the main hero and to shock you even more when his character is killed/taken away
my fav part of the movie is wen the dude is chasin after the cat and the cat is like hiiiiissss and the dude turns around and is like shit and the alien eats him
@0prosthetics0 thats the reason it was deleted i've heard that they planned the queen later after they created the film so before the release they deleted the scene that way don't create problems with the yet actual canon...sorry for my english not my main language.
@nijongo It really does not contradict cannon thou, as the drones/warriors gather & cocoon hosts. They probably yanked it when they realized if a sequel was green lighted, they could no longer work it in there as a new plot element.
According to some of the early design notes, the alien organism is digesting the humans and using them as nourishment to grow a living nest and produce more eggs. Its not literally transforming them into eggs, its eating them so it can grow some. It keeps them alive as long as possible to prevent decay.
This is reconcilable with Cameron's alien queen; the nest could eventually produce a queen, or an alien drone could plug itself into the nest to oversee egg production and become a queen.
Goodness, I always thought this scene was always the most stunning scene from the movie, in my opinion. It shows the tough and heroic Dallas in such a vulnerable light and it ties up some loose ends, makes the creature seem that much more terrifying, and simply just does a good job of creating wonderful atmosphere. Very disturbing and entertaining to watch at the same time!
In the absence of the alien queen, the alien makes a cocoon with the prey, so he can eat it latter (2:21 shows brett's head with a bite and maggots in it because of the discomposition), the body takes part of the nest so the corpses are not just lying there, like the space jockey fossilized in the alien ship. That makes more sence to me and t would be a very scary part of the life cycle of the alien, f you cant infect them, eat and cocooned them
They can actually use either Queen or produce by themselves. They can also themselves turn into a queen by simply evolving into different "Ranks". The xenomorphs are a lot like Bees if you think about it.
And you thought having an alien critter coming out of your gut was a bad way to go? Try having your entire being, (physicality, bio-chemistry), slowly transfigured into an alien pod creature. As your blood becomes highly corrosive acid ...legs and a tail will sprout out of your skull, and your brains will become the internal organs of the next face-hugger. I'd be moaning too!!!!
okay, lots of people here seem to think that this conflicts with the queen/hive concept, but let me make it clear to you: the xenomorph (alien) turns organisms into eggs only in the absence of a present queen, basically, this is just the "emergency" or "back up" in case their is no more than one or a few xenomorphs without a queen.
This scene is haunting. However it makes no sense. You are running for your life from an Alien Monster in the last few minutes before your ship self-destructs and you stop to visit the creature's nest and talk to your cocooned fellow crew members? I don't think so. It just doesn't add up.
I feel like Dallas every Saturday at 3 in the morning when I've come home from a massive drunken night out and eaten a bad kebab (with Hommus and Tabbouleh). I wake up a few hours later moaning "Kill me" as I feel the kebab trying to turn me into one of those xenomorph eggs.....In fact if you look closer at the footage, Dallas has a bit of rolled up aluminium foil in his hand with the kebab sticking out!!!!!!
The scene was cut because it was perceived to break the helter skelter tension of Ripley escaping from the ship. Dallas begs to die because he is metamorphisising into an alien egg...in fact you can see Brett has almost changed completeley and looks as though he will become an alien parasite. Clearly the process is agonising for Dallas. Its pretty horrific all round. This scene being cut meant the Queen concept of reproduction could be introduced in Aliens
@miketreacy1 Though it doesn't rule out a queen either. If you see it as a slow but ncessary process drones can engage in to produce a queen, it makes sense. The queen once produced is a more efficient means of egg production. Kind of like the "royal jelly" egg production seen in nature. Slow, but it makes a queen who is faster at making eggs.
@miketreacy1 So what was the original reproduction concept? That 1 alien could turn other livings things into them by cocooning them? Arghh i always get confused with this 1 scene...Hopefully the new Alien movie sheds some light on it.
@jacoblonewolf i guess thats why they scraped this scene. That concept doesnt make much sense lol. Unless every Alien is its own Queen and could lay embryos.
@cyraxis11 i Know that ty. i was wondering what was the aliens original reproduction cycle and origin. Something must have created those eggs on the ship. and exactly what was happening to dallas.
@qu7aker no the alien cocooned the bodies because that is their nature. he didn't realize the queen was on the space jockey's spaceship, he's a drone doing what he's supposed to do. cocoon the bodies 4 eggs but there's no eggs this time.
@hollyheartjohnny But dallas was changing why was he changing if he was just food or suppose to be a host, ripley could have saved him and he wouldnt have been like "kill me"
Why does he want her to kill him rather than just get him the hell out of there? Did the xenomorph somehow impregnate him? I thought only the Queen could do that.
@mambajam I'm guessing it had to do with a limit on how long they were aiming to make the film and this was considered a less important piece. Plus, if what Vebinz and kranktank said is accurate, it conflicts with the events of Aliens (Alien 2).
On the one hand, it makes the Alien even scarier...like someone said, all they need is one Alien to keep their species going...on the other hand, cutting this scene did give us the awesome throwdown between Ripley and the Queen in the sequel ;)
On the one hand, it makes the Alien even scarier...like someone said, all they need is one Alien to keep their species going...on the other hand, cutting this scene dis give the awesome throwdown between Ripley and the Queen in the sequel ;)
@FatetheHedgehog the alien was turning some of its victims into eggs. there's others you can barely see...Brett I think...almost totally converted. Dallas can still talk enough to beg to die. Interestingly, in an abandoned script for Alien 3, there was an airborne virus emitted by the aliens that could infect a human and convert them into some kind of drone hybrid alien, in a way similar to here where they've got a parasitic life form growing eggs out of their bodies.
@kranktank ah, Okay, I couldn't actually tell what was happening, Turning the victims into the eggs, thats actually a really good twist for the series, that would have been decent to have.
@FatetheHedgehog the upside is, it left their life cycle open to other stuff like the queen alien in Aliens. if you haven't seen Alien or Aliens, you really really should. Cuz they're awesome.
Can I ask why they decided to delete this scene? I thought it was a good and frightening concept, or is there something in Aliens that will contradict this? I haven't seen Aliens yet so if there's a spoiler I guess I'd have to find out
to bad we won't be seeing a cast like this anymore. Not in a time every female has to look like a freaking pin up girl. lacking charisma but fu&%able! Sad times.
this prequel better be good, but it's PG-13 just so little kiddies can watch them...then I'm not gonna pay to watch it...what's up with movie productions operations these days...you can't make a porno pg-13, so why make an R-rated franchise concept into a PG-13...it just doesn't make any sense...unless you want to lose all the gore and horror that made it so fun in the first place
@dalecampbl9 tbf i think if this was released today it would be a 12 at the most. It's not that gory compared to Saw and doesn't make you jump as much as the Ring. But little kiddies won't want to watch this as it requires some interesting thoughts and ideas and that's what made it good, not the gore or the horror: the sheer weirdness and how new the concept was.
@evilnerdap Your are right it did not cocoon them, it was turning them into eggs. Look at Brett, he is almost completely turned into an egg. In this movie it never needed food, just reproduction. Although in the original script, it would raid the food storage areas.
What's the point of the intermediate stage, meaning the Alien that we all know and love? I mean, if this is their life-cycle, shouldn't it make more sense for another Facehugger to burst out of the victims chest?
@TheHOYT08 The idea is that the adult alien lays an egg and captures humans to feed to the egg in order for the facehugger to grow inside. The facehugger hatches and then goes on to lay an egg in another host, hatching an adult alien. The lifecylce continues. Much creepier than having a queen, but the queen is still cool.
What I really dont understand is that why didn't they keep both of the concepts- ridley's cocoon mutation and Cameron's queen. I mean they both fit very well into the picture- if the alien is alone/stranded/cut off from the hive then it uses hosts to mutate eggs. When a queen is born then the egg mutation is sized in favour of a mass-producing queen. It makes the alien idea much more threatening in the sense that a single alien is enough to infest a entire area.
@ujbx yeah it does actually it makes more sense ot have one alien with no queen kind of mix match its DNA etc with the human to mutate an egg then hopefully it will either get another alien or a queen FaceHugger so it can reproduce naturally with the Queen
Also, as much as I'm not a fan of James Cameron or his work, I do think the Alien queen idea was a much better. Say what you will about the third and fourth movies, but I love them all to death. This entire franchise has been brilliant. It's a shame that the abomination that is AVP made Ridley Scott lose interest in the Alien prequel he wanted to do.
@ExplodingCarebear What are you blathering about? He didn't lose interest at all. The screenplay is underway as we speak via Damon Lindeloff. It's going to be filmed for sure.
@cretulicabz Really? Nice. Where did you read that? Anyway, I have no doubt that this movie will be made. What I do have doubts about is how good it is going to be. I am keeping my expectations low. I know Ridley has said he is going in a completely new direction with the alien and it won't be looking like anything we have seen before. This could be really good because it will retain that scary surprise at never truly knowing what we are dealing with. Or it could be bad if it's lame.
I'm glad that they decided to cut this scene. Otherwise the scene where the Ripley clone discovers the previous 7 failed clones would've totally retarded, as opposed to epic.
Well, if Kane was infected by a facehugger from an egg, then it is safe to assume that they are, for lack of a better word, oviparous... in a sense. But then again, some species of lizards and fishes change gender when the need arises. And some lizards are capable of reproducing between females: both females fertilize each other. So, it might be just an adaptation from this xenomorph when facing a new environment, since they have such a developed way of reproduction through eggs.
1:13 Looks like the xenomorph on the top left hand corner, showing his teeth... but it turns out to be some sort of pipe or something. If it's done on purpose, it's great. If not, then it's done on purpose anyway 'cos we see the creature everywhere 'cos it can resemble a piece of machinery.
This movie is not dated to me. Cameron's Alien's seems dated being an 80's style action movie and Paul Reiser in his preppy clothes. It's good. But this one is the classic. I do prefer this egg idea WAAAAY better. It's just far more sickeningly scary somehow.
guys, i dont understand, why the alien is able to built a coocon. out of which material???? and there are not any eggs, right? becasue the alien queen has too make the eggs
@Amorstopineed as ridley would say...'yeah, we dunno where the Alien got the material from, who know, his boyfriend maybe.... but we like it. 2, no 3000 commercials - overnight success right? Helllloooooooo'
watch...
Ridley Scott on Legend (also gladiator, american gangster, etc etc) genius
@Amorstopineed James Cameron made up the idea of the queen himself years after this movie so a queen didn't have to be involved here.
Personally I think this idea is a lot scarier and creepier and has an added mystery to it. If it wasn't for pacing issues in the 3rd act then Scott would have used this scene and Cameron's movie would have been very different beacuse he would have had to respect the continuity.
I don't see why both the turning into an egg thing and the concept of an alien queen laying eggs would contradict each other. Since it is supposed to be a perfect organism, maybe in the absence of a queen this is but one alternative for the alien to reproduce.
Turning a human into an egg/facehugger seems incredibly unrealistic. Besides, giving the aliens a Queen makes them come across more like insects with a hive mind, so much more material to work with.
Scott cut this out because he realised it would break the flow of the movie AND he decided the last shot of Dallas in the tunnel was a classic moment and that the audience would react better if Dallas just plain dissapeared into thin air.
colliric 21 minutes ago
@qu7aker
Although he is in fact to be a host.... like the coccooned woman in Aliens, he is biologically deteriorating due to the coccooning process draining his fluids. It suggests this helps the Xenomorph develop quicker... perhaps because of our immune system resisting the initial implantation. By the way it was Scott who cut this scene as the Theatrical Edition is actually his version, and FOX released the "Director's" cut without his permission. He didn't want Dallas reappearing in the end.
colliric 38 minutes ago
This (as well as Aliens) and Pitch Black were the only movies that legitimately scared me as a kid. This scene, albeit a deleted one, just adds to that.
Can't wait for Prometheus.
haltrman93 2 days ago
@blueindivdual Great point. The Alien clearly rapes Lambert from the sound she making and her leg seen dangling shes clearly naked and bloody. Some the ideas that were scrapped from this movie appeared in species with Eve running around looking for a suitable subject to mate with. This was meant to be an alien abuse story but was probably decided to play safe. I like it either way. But we I can read between the editing.
anygame 2 days ago
@chozology Nah, this was just something I breezed through where Newt was recapping what she went through to some psychiatrist. I think its the first in the series.
anygame 2 days ago
Everything about this film is great; it's easily the best and most disturbing. Everything from the Bizarre distress signal to the fossilized Space Jockey is freaky. The windy surface of Archeron in particular scares me.
chozology 2 days ago
The Alien was ment to be something different entirely before James Cameron turned them into space bugs. Ridley said the creature was ment to be a hybrid between it's Alien side and host, being human in this case which explains it's form. The Egg morphing method was it's alien way of reproducing, but he also claims that it raped Lambert and possibly got her pregnant which was it's human side. I think this is much better than what came after Aliens & the sequels.
BlueIndividual 1 week ago
This is more disturbing than the queen lifecycle
Itachi21x 2 weeks ago
This sucks...now I want to no more about this particular part of its reproduction, cannon or not
jokerswarpig 3 weeks ago
Creepy, yes, but a great scene. My guess would be that if the environment wasn't suitable for a full hive or if there weren't enough facehuggers to match the number of hosts, then those who had been taken by the Aliens would be transformed into the eggs, using both the host's and the Xeno's DNA to produce a new egg. Disgusting, but a reasonably theory.
212avez4159 1 month ago
I found an archive of the Alien comics online. And the one I read suggested that the ALIENS don't leave anything behind. That they would use everything even after you were dead. So bodies would be used to create more eggs and facehuggers. No mating, no queens. Just a biological process of rearranging matter that would be strange and different.
anygame 1 month ago
@anygame By any chance was that the comic where the Aliens are fighting the other predatory species on their planet? I never understood why they were human hybrids on some distant world? =/
chozology 2 days ago
@superwickedlester The problem with all scifi today is is all follows a neat and predictable pattern. This was originally intended to present something different. But it ended up on the cutting room floor. I loved Star Trek like most scifi buffs but it doesnt mean everything after needs to follow their formula. The Syfy Network on cable is almost unwatchable because they dont know how to push the envelope. Or atleast try something different.
anygame 1 month ago
I read the sequence take place after Parker and Lambert death. I think is it true that it brakes the action's flow, but if they shot it they had to have a good reason for Ripley to go down there!
Myau76 1 month ago
The whole queen thing was an afterthought for the second movie which was not even considered yet. You were supposed to get all you needed from the first movie. Any movie that does 10 million opening weekend in 1979 is gonna command a sequel.
anygame 1 month ago
Most people cant think outside the box. Forget life as we know it here on earth and think about a reproductive process that has nothing to do with us. This was meant to be something ALIEN, so its supposed to be foriegn to you. Consider that the salivating is more than just spit. And what if the bite was meant to take something, not just to kill. Perhaps gathering the genetic material it needs to reproduce. Bret was used for material while Dallas was to be the next host. The whole queen thing wa
anygame 1 month ago 2
@anygame i totally agree. I´m not completely against the use of the queen but i do think it´s to neat and familiar.
SuperWickedlester 1 month ago
Brett was put inside an egg.. What would have happened if she let them hang.. The xeno is way too small to lay that size of an egg.. It must have grown in order to lay it... So it must have become a preatorian or something.. Tjeck out the maggots on Breet, apparently they have flies on board as well.
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Why does she go down there? Can you explane me?
Myau76 1 month ago
@Myau76 im not sure this scene was used during ripley trying to escape the ship.they left it out as they said it kinda broke the flow of the film.
MMAOpenForum 1 month ago
no means of insult but i'm glad this scene was deleted, i love the queen
Anacondas101 1 month ago
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If the queen was not supposed to exist where did all the eggs on the ship come from? Did the spacejockeys use animal "subjects" to make them?
candycommander 1 month ago
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candycommander 1 month ago
this is one of my favorite movie scenes ever... i hate that it got left out of the film.. is this in the director's cut?
InkySunshine 2 months ago
btw... i just noticed that dallases clothes are fused to his skin if you look, you see the collar of his jacket stuck to his chest.
Soulcastthewolf 2 months ago
personally i belived that if they had no queen to make eggs,they would turn their victems into eggs untill the time being.since this xeno was the only one on board it was its only option.
This also fuels them being the ''perfect lifeform''
Soulcastthewolf 2 months ago
@Soulcastthewolf yeah well it's ridley scott's vision, not yours. "personally" doesn't cut it.
this gives great insight into how they imagined the creature's reproduction cycle. also scott didn't like cameron's half assed military vision. so the queen crap never really happened.
also, bulletcurtain, they're biomechanic creatures, they don't eat. they only survive and kill because they're engineered that way.
zackhanscom 2 months ago
@zackhanscom the film was created as an attempt to "re-make" the ideas of the origional comic-books. which had been around far longer than this film. and the lifecycle in the origional comics was queen and egg :D
Jagethemage 1 month ago
wait how was the alien able to get them like that did he impregnant them cause i thought only queens could make facehuggers to do tht
nawstra578 2 months ago
I have a question for everyone, what do aliens EAT? Presumably they eat the humans, but I can't remember any scenes from any of the movies where you see them eating. Or maybe they get their energy from photosynthesis (jk)?
bulletcurtain 2 months ago
@bulletcurtain In Alien 3 you see that alien eating a dead body.
MarkFaust 2 months ago
@MarkFaust Thanks! I guess I never noticed that scene. I wonder if Ridley Scott intended the aliens to eat humans from the beginning, or if he never considered what they eat.
bulletcurtain 2 months ago
@bulletcurtain they eat meat.
there were multiple times in Alien 3, where the runner was chomping on people
and i think it's Alien resurruction or AVPR where an alien eats someone with there mouth tounge, which is how they eat
Anacondas101 1 month ago
I guess this why the cut it out in Aliens also! This is a geat scence she finds Burke and gives him a grenade
G7X3 2 months ago
They should've kept this I the movie cos I the second one newt gets taken by the Alien and it only makes sense that ripley knows she's alive if you've seen this scene.
bexysboy 2 months ago
Usually I agree with most cut scenes staying on the cutting room floor. Although this one was damn good, considering the fact that we knew so little about the alien throughout the first movie. This would have made this scene particularly horrifying i.e. "what was it doing to them?" etc. Anyone know why it was removed? Maybe perhaps Scott thought it was too 'much' or too 'gory' for a film based primarily on suspense?
PullMyPeeper 2 months ago
lol nvm. just read two comments down. Thx.
PullMyPeeper 2 months ago
@PullMyPeeper
I don't see how he would think it's "too much" after the chestburster scene. :P
candycommander 1 month ago
Killll meee...
Medic: "Later."
Trans4mers8456 2 months ago
Ridley initially cut this out from the original because he said it made no sense that Ripley, running for her life for the escape pod would go down into the bowel's of the ship.
There was to have been a scene where Parker and Ripley cornered the Alien and it lost it's hand to an airlock door but later grew it back.
Remember reading that Ridley thought of the Alien has having a short lifespan in which it had to reproduce, which is why it was so violent and cold.
shathriel 3 months ago
Thanks for posting this. I see from previous comments that people are trying to think out the answers... The horror is in not knowing the limitations of the capabilities of the Aliens. Not knowing what they are doing or why. Food or reproduction? Cocooning to use the human bodies for some part of genetic transformation or reproduction... Immobilising people and subjecting them to horrific thing without mercy. It's all to get the imagination going. I think there should have been no more mo
BEF40 3 months ago
Why was this cut out?
Kirbyguy12345 4 months ago
@Kirbyguy12345 Because the test people found it to be to fucked up to show because it was made back in 1978
QAndJMovies2 3 months ago
I don't think Dallas was being turned into an egg, I think he was being cocooned as a host for the facehugger that would have come out of the egg Brett was turning into. That's why Brett was killed (for use as raw organic matter) and Dallas was kept alive (as a living host, like the collonists were in Aliens).
Ambidextrometer 4 months ago
Wow, this is pretty terrifying, even more so than the Queen concept introduced in Aliens. I'd be willing to accept both as canon, provided that this method is used by a drone Alien to produce eggs without a Queen, but that means it could modify it's own structure to lay eggs. Yep, this method is definitely, absolutely, scary as all hell. Just look at Dallas' face, he's not dead yet but hardly human anymore.
TheElMuffin 4 months ago 7
KILL IT WITH FIRE!
dacel88 5 months ago
This scene reminds me of the women in Duke Nukem 3D. Killlll meeee
OjideaguMusic 5 months ago
@OjideaguMusic
Duke Nukem took it from Aliens movie :)
Hobu123 5 months ago
@Hobu123 Well yeh I figured! ;)
ojideagu 5 months ago
@Hobu123 Well yeh I figured! ;)
ojideagu 5 months ago
@stevecav1138
Tom Skerritt's Callsign was Viper not Jester in Top Gun
Great Balls of Fire
Sicut326 5 months ago
Wonder how the movie Aliens would have looked had this scene been left in? The Alien birth cycle would have left the idea of the queen redundant.
yokai1968 6 months ago
Yee Haa, Jester's dead!
stevecav1138 6 months ago
Prometheus will be a PG 13 movie. Alien was 18
ninelivecat 6 months ago
@ninelivecat
I read the studio wanted it to Pg whilst ridly scott wanted it to be R. lets hope he has his way in the end.
KingoftheGods123 6 months ago
@ninelivecat He's making an R cut... so hopefully that's released too.
GenesisKnights 4 months ago
This film was completely fantastic, however this scene I dislike because to me it doesn't actually make sense. (Why are they changing into eggs?) Also this scene scares the actual shit outta me! :L But I just dislike how it broke up the pacing of Ripley's escape and my failure to understand it. The Original (Not Director's Cut) in my opinion is better. Anyway no arguement intended!
MisterSisterShotgun 6 months ago
I have seen fan theories in which both reproduction cycles are combined, one being a non regular method and the other being more regular (Queen laying egss).
But to be honest, I would have preferred if this has been the one that was used as it makes the xenomorph only more alien rather than some pissed off ant, bee, or wasp.
TheDutchGhost 7 months ago 2
@TheDutchGhost - Seconded.
TheElMuffin 4 months ago
@TheDutchGhost Except that Riddley himself mentions certain insects being part of the inspiration for the creature. Specifically insects that lay their eggs in/on host insects so that the larvae hatch and eat the host (not unlike digger and spider wasps). It's in his commentary. So really, they was a certain precedent for them being the universes worst insect...after a fasion...
GermanChocolateCake 4 months ago
@GermanChocolateCake I understand your point but I do hope you understand me when when I say that the xenomorph was a great example of the ultimate 'other' before they were given a insect hive structure with a queen, soldiers, workers etc.
They took that otherness and possible non human intelligence away from the creature in Aliens.
TheDutchGhost 4 months ago
@TheDutchGhost I get where you are coming from. It's not unlike actual science where the expectation is that if we ever discover alien life, we should be prepared for the possibility that it will be far different from any frame of reference we have on Earth.
And you hit upon a salient element of horror. The fear of the unknown and perhaps unknowable is one of the fundamental elements of true terror.
GermanChocolateCake 4 months ago
@greatmovies2come
What? You don't like Gladiator or KOH?
Jammed9000 7 months ago
Why does Tom Skerritt get topbilling when Dallas gets "killed" off halfway throughout the picture?
predlycon 7 months ago
@predlycon because at that time in movies women were not strong characters and it was to make you think that dallas would be the main hero and to shock you even more when his character is killed/taken away
1878Bernie 7 months ago
I still love the Alien series + Predator, they never get old.. even the new ones coming out look BAD ASS.
369Shahin 7 months ago
@thatamazinggeek - I'm glad they left it out myself.
ChuckyDoll10 7 months ago
my fav part of the movie is wen the dude is chasin after the cat and the cat is like hiiiiissss and the dude turns around and is like shit and the alien eats him
supermidgetakabrian 7 months ago
@supermidgetakabrian what is chasin?
Rob6203 7 months ago
@Rob6203 chasing the cat as in running after
supermidgetakabrian 7 months ago
Why that was cut I don't know...
OlsVicDash 8 months ago
I thought that the Xenomorph could only create eggs if there was a Queen?
0prosthetics0 8 months ago
@0prosthetics0 thats the reason it was deleted i've heard that they planned the queen later after they created the film so before the release they deleted the scene that way don't create problems with the yet actual canon...sorry for my english not my main language.
nijongo 7 months ago
@nijongo It really does not contradict cannon thou, as the drones/warriors gather & cocoon hosts. They probably yanked it when they realized if a sequel was green lighted, they could no longer work it in there as a new plot element.
shadesofbluee 7 months ago
According to some of the early design notes, the alien organism is digesting the humans and using them as nourishment to grow a living nest and produce more eggs. Its not literally transforming them into eggs, its eating them so it can grow some. It keeps them alive as long as possible to prevent decay.
This is reconcilable with Cameron's alien queen; the nest could eventually produce a queen, or an alien drone could plug itself into the nest to oversee egg production and become a queen.
Nyarlathoteplol 8 months ago
Great
920Random 8 months ago
Goodness, I always thought this scene was always the most stunning scene from the movie, in my opinion. It shows the tough and heroic Dallas in such a vulnerable light and it ties up some loose ends, makes the creature seem that much more terrifying, and simply just does a good job of creating wonderful atmosphere. Very disturbing and entertaining to watch at the same time!
I'm curious why this was cut!
Jakerocksteady 9 months ago
lol stupid bitch, can't you see the guy is in agonizing PAIN??!!!
Hunkyfish20 10 months ago
2:15 it looks like an egg
bartas2075 10 months ago
I can guess what this "life cycle" does:
In the absence of the alien queen, the alien makes a cocoon with the prey, so he can eat it latter (2:21 shows brett's head with a bite and maggots in it because of the discomposition), the body takes part of the nest so the corpses are not just lying there, like the space jockey fossilized in the alien ship. That makes more sence to me and t would be a very scary part of the life cycle of the alien, f you cant infect them, eat and cocooned them
fizetr 10 months ago
Its More logical.The Eggs in the storage Room of the alien Ship was the Crew
Legrandez666 10 months ago
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Its More logical.The Eggs in the strorage Room of the alien Ship was the Crew
Legrandez666 10 months ago
Its More logical.The Eggs in the strorag Room of the alien Ship was the Crew
Legrandez666 10 months ago
why would he die? He is not even Face H'ged yet?
etphonehome2915 11 months ago
They can actually use either Queen or produce by themselves. They can also themselves turn into a queen by simply evolving into different "Ranks". The xenomorphs are a lot like Bees if you think about it.
WarOfSalvation 11 months ago
And you thought having an alien critter coming out of your gut was a bad way to go? Try having your entire being, (physicality, bio-chemistry), slowly transfigured into an alien pod creature. As your blood becomes highly corrosive acid ...legs and a tail will sprout out of your skull, and your brains will become the internal organs of the next face-hugger. I'd be moaning too!!!!
CH3CH2OH4U 1 year ago
He was asking for a cup of tea...
BuddhaZenMind 1 year ago 2
He said: be free, and ripley thought he said kill me.
etphonehome2915 11 months ago
*happily slurps her soup throughout the entirety of this scene*
RaWrZzZz 1 year ago 2
okay, lots of people here seem to think that this conflicts with the queen/hive concept, but let me make it clear to you: the xenomorph (alien) turns organisms into eggs only in the absence of a present queen, basically, this is just the "emergency" or "back up" in case their is no more than one or a few xenomorphs without a queen.
glitcheroftime 1 year ago
what does he say?
italianguerrilla 1 year ago
@italianguerrilla He says "Kill me"
WarOfSalvation 11 months ago
A prequel to Alien is dead...Prometheus has now taken over...such a missed opportunity.
truth1nessinc 1 year ago
Ha - never knew this scene existed, but remember it from reading the novelization released concurrently with the movie.
Thanks for posting!
steveb0503 1 year ago
I will never understand why they deleted the sentry guns scene in ALIENS. It is one of the most interesting parts.
Fersomling 1 year ago 2
This scene is haunting. However it makes no sense. You are running for your life from an Alien Monster in the last few minutes before your ship self-destructs and you stop to visit the creature's nest and talk to your cocooned fellow crew members? I don't think so. It just doesn't add up.
spackar 1 year ago
@spackar
Probs why they took it out.
KingoftheGods123 11 months ago
I feel like Dallas every Saturday at 3 in the morning when I've come home from a massive drunken night out and eaten a bad kebab (with Hommus and Tabbouleh). I wake up a few hours later moaning "Kill me" as I feel the kebab trying to turn me into one of those xenomorph eggs.....In fact if you look closer at the footage, Dallas has a bit of rolled up aluminium foil in his hand with the kebab sticking out!!!!!!
FREDDO239170 1 year ago 52
@FREDDO239170
LOL i dig 100%
patjng02 1 year ago
laol! You define me
todzumpanzerfaust 1 year ago
@FREDDO239170 Quit eating bad kebabs lol.
RE4uk 1 year ago
@FREDDO239170 Yeah i can kind of see it!
4everRammstien 6 months ago
The scene was cut because it was perceived to break the helter skelter tension of Ripley escaping from the ship. Dallas begs to die because he is metamorphisising into an alien egg...in fact you can see Brett has almost changed completeley and looks as though he will become an alien parasite. Clearly the process is agonising for Dallas. Its pretty horrific all round. This scene being cut meant the Queen concept of reproduction could be introduced in Aliens
miketreacy1 1 year ago 11
@miketreacy1 Though it doesn't rule out a queen either. If you see it as a slow but ncessary process drones can engage in to produce a queen, it makes sense. The queen once produced is a more efficient means of egg production. Kind of like the "royal jelly" egg production seen in nature. Slow, but it makes a queen who is faster at making eggs.
GermanChocolateCake 4 months ago
@miketreacy1 So what was the original reproduction concept? That 1 alien could turn other livings things into them by cocooning them? Arghh i always get confused with this 1 scene...Hopefully the new Alien movie sheds some light on it.
qu7aker 4 months ago
@qu7aker I think the cocooned would turn into eggs. The corpse would feed the facehugger inside also.
jacoblonewolf 3 months ago
@jacoblonewolf i guess thats why they scraped this scene. That concept doesnt make much sense lol. Unless every Alien is its own Queen and could lay embryos.
qu7aker 3 months ago
@qu7aker
There was never a queen in the original design
cyraxis11 3 months ago
@cyraxis11 i Know that ty. i was wondering what was the aliens original reproduction cycle and origin. Something must have created those eggs on the ship. and exactly what was happening to dallas.
qu7aker 3 months ago
@qu7aker hes was being fucked
carrierform 3 months ago
@qu7aker no the alien cocooned the bodies because that is their nature. he didn't realize the queen was on the space jockey's spaceship, he's a drone doing what he's supposed to do. cocoon the bodies 4 eggs but there's no eggs this time.
hollyheartjohnny 2 months ago
@hollyheartjohnny they were slowly being turned into eggs.
phantomhurricane666 2 months ago
@hollyheartjohnny But dallas was changing why was he changing if he was just food or suppose to be a host, ripley could have saved him and he wouldnt have been like "kill me"
qu7aker 2 months ago
@hollyheartjohnny
This was before the Queen idea came about. They were being turned into eggs.
KingDiamondHead 2 months ago
@jacoblonewolf Or their corpse/brains actually turned into the facehugger and eggs.
WarOfSalvation 3 months ago
Why does he want her to kill him rather than just get him the hell out of there? Did the xenomorph somehow impregnate him? I thought only the Queen could do that.
FlamingBat 1 year ago
@FlamingBat
He wasn't impregnated, he was literally turning into an egg/cacoon.
That's how the creature in this first film did things. The queen/hive cycle was invented for the second movie.
Vebinz 1 year ago
@Vebinz So all those eggs in the chamber of the derelict space ship where Kane went were once people?
FlamingBat 1 year ago
@FlamingBat
I guess. I don't think it was quite thought out.
The creature may use any large organism for the purpose, not just humans.
Vebinz 1 year ago
why would they need to dekete this scene !
mambajam 1 year ago
@mambajam I'm guessing it had to do with a limit on how long they were aiming to make the film and this was considered a less important piece. Plus, if what Vebinz and kranktank said is accurate, it conflicts with the events of Aliens (Alien 2).
FlamingBat 1 year ago
@mambajam so that it didnt fuck with the queens storyline in the second movie.
rollinface697 1 year ago
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On the one hand, it makes the Alien even scarier...like someone said, all they need is one Alien to keep their species going...on the other hand, cutting this scene did give us the awesome throwdown between Ripley and the Queen in the sequel ;)
brinpol 1 year ago
On the one hand, it makes the Alien even scarier...like someone said, all they need is one Alien to keep their species going...on the other hand, cutting this scene dis give the awesome throwdown between Ripley and the Queen in the sequel ;)
brinpol 1 year ago
Im sorry, I just dont get it... I could barely make out what Ripley was saying let alone the dude who was basically weezing What does this all mean?
FatetheHedgehog 1 year ago
@FatetheHedgehog the alien was turning some of its victims into eggs. there's others you can barely see...Brett I think...almost totally converted. Dallas can still talk enough to beg to die. Interestingly, in an abandoned script for Alien 3, there was an airborne virus emitted by the aliens that could infect a human and convert them into some kind of drone hybrid alien, in a way similar to here where they've got a parasitic life form growing eggs out of their bodies.
kranktank 1 year ago
@kranktank ah, Okay, I couldn't actually tell what was happening, Turning the victims into the eggs, thats actually a really good twist for the series, that would have been decent to have.
FatetheHedgehog 1 year ago
@FatetheHedgehog the upside is, it left their life cycle open to other stuff like the queen alien in Aliens. if you haven't seen Alien or Aliens, you really really should. Cuz they're awesome.
kranktank 1 year ago
@kranktank oh i have, Alien Resurrection was the 3rd one i saw, I missed 3 and then went back to see it so I could understand Resurrection
FatetheHedgehog 1 year ago
@FatetheHedgehog I really wish they hadn't played Resurrection as a satire.
kranktank 1 year ago
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kranktank 1 year ago
Can I ask why they decided to delete this scene? I thought it was a good and frightening concept, or is there something in Aliens that will contradict this? I haven't seen Aliens yet so if there's a spoiler I guess I'd have to find out
zulphur21 1 year ago
@zulphur21 they cut it because it slowed the pace of the ending/escape from ship sequence down.
CK2890 1 year ago
this way of repoduction is cool but i prefer the queen method. its much more realistic
TimeDevil747 1 year ago
to bad we won't be seeing a cast like this anymore. Not in a time every female has to look like a freaking pin up girl. lacking charisma but fu&%able! Sad times.
evilnerdap 1 year ago
So it seems that the alien can reproduce in a way if it is alone, a single drone. But obviously a queen would make things much easier...
MrROTCcadet 1 year ago
this prequel better be good, but it's PG-13 just so little kiddies can watch them...then I'm not gonna pay to watch it...what's up with movie productions operations these days...you can't make a porno pg-13, so why make an R-rated franchise concept into a PG-13...it just doesn't make any sense...unless you want to lose all the gore and horror that made it so fun in the first place
dalecampbl9 1 year ago
@dalecampbl9 tbf i think if this was released today it would be a 12 at the most. It's not that gory compared to Saw and doesn't make you jump as much as the Ring. But little kiddies won't want to watch this as it requires some interesting thoughts and ideas and that's what made it good, not the gore or the horror: the sheer weirdness and how new the concept was.
spiffcorgi 1 year ago
I think the alien did notcocoon dallas for any DNA modification or splicing. I guess it was about conserving food.
evilnerdap 1 year ago
@evilnerdap Your are right it did not cocoon them, it was turning them into eggs. Look at Brett, he is almost completely turned into an egg. In this movie it never needed food, just reproduction. Although in the original script, it would raid the food storage areas.
N9olan 1 year ago
@N9olan woe, what a great concept. like it more then the queen-life-cycle. It just adds more to the horror.
evilnerdap 1 year ago
What's the point of the intermediate stage, meaning the Alien that we all know and love? I mean, if this is their life-cycle, shouldn't it make more sense for another Facehugger to burst out of the victims chest?
TheHOYT08 1 year ago
@TheHOYT08 The idea is that the adult alien lays an egg and captures humans to feed to the egg in order for the facehugger to grow inside. The facehugger hatches and then goes on to lay an egg in another host, hatching an adult alien. The lifecylce continues. Much creepier than having a queen, but the queen is still cool.
spiffcorgi 1 year ago
@spiffcorgi Really it captured the humans and turned them into eggs.
N9olan 1 year ago
What I really dont understand is that why didn't they keep both of the concepts- ridley's cocoon mutation and Cameron's queen. I mean they both fit very well into the picture- if the alien is alone/stranded/cut off from the hive then it uses hosts to mutate eggs. When a queen is born then the egg mutation is sized in favour of a mass-producing queen. It makes the alien idea much more threatening in the sense that a single alien is enough to infest a entire area.
ujbx 1 year ago 5
@ujbx yeah it does actually it makes more sense ot have one alien with no queen kind of mix match its DNA etc with the human to mutate an egg then hopefully it will either get another alien or a queen FaceHugger so it can reproduce naturally with the Queen
FearLancer2 1 year ago
2:21 YUCK! What the alien DO to poor Brett?!?!?!
TruemetalandpunkONLY 1 year ago
Also, as much as I'm not a fan of James Cameron or his work, I do think the Alien queen idea was a much better. Say what you will about the third and fourth movies, but I love them all to death. This entire franchise has been brilliant. It's a shame that the abomination that is AVP made Ridley Scott lose interest in the Alien prequel he wanted to do.
ExplodingCarebear 1 year ago 3
@ExplodingCarebear What are you blathering about? He didn't lose interest at all. The screenplay is underway as we speak via Damon Lindeloff. It's going to be filmed for sure.
gaozhi2007 1 year ago
@gaozhi2007 That was before I knew the fact, chill out.
ExplodingCarebear 1 year ago
@gaozhi2007 it's finished,already entered pre-production
cretulicabz 1 year ago
@cretulicabz Really? Nice. Where did you read that? Anyway, I have no doubt that this movie will be made. What I do have doubts about is how good it is going to be. I am keeping my expectations low. I know Ridley has said he is going in a completely new direction with the alien and it won't be looking like anything we have seen before. This could be really good because it will retain that scary surprise at never truly knowing what we are dealing with. Or it could be bad if it's lame.
gaozhi2007 1 year ago
I'm glad that they decided to cut this scene. Otherwise the scene where the Ripley clone discovers the previous 7 failed clones would've totally retarded, as opposed to epic.
ExplodingCarebear 1 year ago
Well, if Kane was infected by a facehugger from an egg, then it is safe to assume that they are, for lack of a better word, oviparous... in a sense. But then again, some species of lizards and fishes change gender when the need arises. And some lizards are capable of reproducing between females: both females fertilize each other. So, it might be just an adaptation from this xenomorph when facing a new environment, since they have such a developed way of reproduction through eggs.
sagan1976 1 year ago
1:13 Looks like the xenomorph on the top left hand corner, showing his teeth... but it turns out to be some sort of pipe or something. If it's done on purpose, it's great. If not, then it's done on purpose anyway 'cos we see the creature everywhere 'cos it can resemble a piece of machinery.
sagan1976 1 year ago
This movie is not dated to me. Cameron's Alien's seems dated being an 80's style action movie and Paul Reiser in his preppy clothes. It's good. But this one is the classic. I do prefer this egg idea WAAAAY better. It's just far more sickeningly scary somehow.
TheLittleDevil 1 year ago
@TheLittleDevil Paul Riser's preppy clothes have built an empire of dweebs, I'll have you know.
gaozhi2007 1 year ago
guys, i dont understand, why the alien is able to built a coocon. out of which material???? and there are not any eggs, right? becasue the alien queen has too make the eggs
Amorstopineed 1 year ago
@Amorstopineed as ridley would say...'yeah, we dunno where the Alien got the material from, who know, his boyfriend maybe.... but we like it. 2, no 3000 commercials - overnight success right? Helllloooooooo'
watch...
Ridley Scott on Legend (also gladiator, american gangster, etc etc) genius
tomes55moon 1 year ago
@Amorstopineed James Cameron made up the idea of the queen himself years after this movie so a queen didn't have to be involved here.
Personally I think this idea is a lot scarier and creepier and has an added mystery to it. If it wasn't for pacing issues in the 3rd act then Scott would have used this scene and Cameron's movie would have been very different beacuse he would have had to respect the continuity.
davidglynn1 1 year ago
this is without doubt the most sceane, no doubte !
finlay230 1 year ago
this is more terrifying.. there's no words to describe it. you can't describe it... it's just....alien.
LeonCzarezers 1 year ago
I don't see why both the turning into an egg thing and the concept of an alien queen laying eggs would contradict each other. Since it is supposed to be a perfect organism, maybe in the absence of a queen this is but one alternative for the alien to reproduce.
NRG4X15QZ 1 year ago 3
what is wrong with him. it almost looks like he's...decomposing whilst still alive.
thedarknesscallingme 1 year ago
That's what should have happened to the biddies in Cocoon. Turned into Brian Dennehy spawn.
bubulovesgrosminet 1 year ago
This is where the idea of contra came to be.
zukodude487987 1 year ago
the queen idea was better
davidsmart29 1 year ago
Turning a human into an egg/facehugger seems incredibly unrealistic. Besides, giving the aliens a Queen makes them come across more like insects with a hive mind, so much more material to work with.
Truth118 1 year ago