I remembered when this song came out, I was a kid. I found it strange that this murder and such a horrible one I might say was never solved. I would think that there would be epitus in solving it owing to the savage nature of the crime? One would only then think that perhap some people were covering up certain facts of the case so not test relations? The base is no longer there so why not re-open the case? I am very curious to know what really happened.
and yes from recollection one could see the road she worked on from that school. if she was in fct put into a van then they took her away and killed her and brought her back. Because I think her body was found very close to where she worked at the base. Such a shame someone could murder a person and get away completely free.
it doesn't necessaryily follow that the killer was off the base though although I can see why people would say this. The crime seems one of hate and I wonder if in fact the killer would not have had a grudge against her. Hence maybe being from Antigua and knowing her - not to say that someeone from the base could also have had a grudge. I know the hotel training school and yes it overlooked her spot.
Am I right in thinking Obstinate's sister was the middle-aged prostitute who worked the US base? I thought a witness saw her being bundled into a van by two guys and the van came from the navy base?
@geldo5 her head was severed from her body. The government never did much by way of investigation. I think this was because she was a prostitute. I remember that Scotland yard was called in. Where did you hear about this van ?
@OriginalJoseyWales Hi OJW. The witness was a guy who worked as a night watchman at the Hotel Management college, which overlooked the area where she used to work. He is supposed to have told the police that he saw a 'light skinned (black) man' and another guy bundle her into the back of a van on the night of the killing. He allegedly said the men looked as if they were off the base.
@OriginalJoseyWales The talk in the ex-pat community was that the killer had to be someone from off-island because what Antiguan would cut her head and hands off to prevent her being identified? No local man would waste time at a murder scene when he knew the body would be identified simply because there were hardly any murders on the island at that time.
The poor woman worked the base, was murdered just outside...you can see why people thought the killer was a US serviceman.
Undoubtedly, the best ever! Better vocals and lyrical arrangement than shortshirt and swallow. The government really needs to honour this man before he died!
I remembered when this song came out, I was a kid. I found it strange that this murder and such a horrible one I might say was never solved. I would think that there would be epitus in solving it owing to the savage nature of the crime? One would only then think that perhap some people were covering up certain facts of the case so not test relations? The base is no longer there so why not re-open the case? I am very curious to know what really happened.
Metopera1 4 months ago
what year did this happen.
beeniegirl25 10 months ago
and yes from recollection one could see the road she worked on from that school. if she was in fct put into a van then they took her away and killed her and brought her back. Because I think her body was found very close to where she worked at the base. Such a shame someone could murder a person and get away completely free.
OriginalJoseyWales 1 year ago
it doesn't necessaryily follow that the killer was off the base though although I can see why people would say this. The crime seems one of hate and I wonder if in fact the killer would not have had a grudge against her. Hence maybe being from Antigua and knowing her - not to say that someeone from the base could also have had a grudge. I know the hotel training school and yes it overlooked her spot.
OriginalJoseyWales 1 year ago
yes geldo5 there was talk about the prostitute thing but killers were never found.
dadlipete 1 year ago
Am I right in thinking Obstinate's sister was the middle-aged prostitute who worked the US base? I thought a witness saw her being bundled into a van by two guys and the van came from the navy base?
Did they never find her killers?
geldo5 1 year ago
@geldo5 her head was severed from her body. The government never did much by way of investigation. I think this was because she was a prostitute. I remember that Scotland yard was called in. Where did you hear about this van ?
OriginalJoseyWales 1 year ago
@OriginalJoseyWales Hi OJW. The witness was a guy who worked as a night watchman at the Hotel Management college, which overlooked the area where she used to work. He is supposed to have told the police that he saw a 'light skinned (black) man' and another guy bundle her into the back of a van on the night of the killing. He allegedly said the men looked as if they were off the base.
geldo5 1 year ago
@OriginalJoseyWales The talk in the ex-pat community was that the killer had to be someone from off-island because what Antiguan would cut her head and hands off to prevent her being identified? No local man would waste time at a murder scene when he knew the body would be identified simply because there were hardly any murders on the island at that time.
The poor woman worked the base, was murdered just outside...you can see why people thought the killer was a US serviceman.
geldo5 1 year ago
@geldo5 I wish there was a way to find out.
OriginalJoseyWales 1 year ago
As a person who grew up in the neighborhood of King Obstinate in our native greenbay it always sad to see what he went through.
this song is well put together and put me back way in the good old days.
dadlipete 1 year ago
i agree with you Renraim this song is great
danteharris268 1 year ago
Undoubtedly, the best ever! Better vocals and lyrical arrangement than shortshirt and swallow. The government really needs to honour this man before he died!
Renraim 1 year ago
So sad though. I always wanted to know what happened to his sister and what became of it.
msviswan 1 year ago
Antigua's Greatest .....I know many will disagree and say Short Shirt or Swallow but Obsti is my favorite.
panojama 1 year ago