im homeschooled and teaching myself geometry and this was a great help!! i really understood it, especially because you did a hands on example(trout). the ending was my favorite part though!:) GREAT JOB!!
@44eelz, as far as I know, not much has changed between 1800 and 2010, unless there is a time machine I am unaware of. There is evidence for evolution and evidence for creation, but that is all science can do is provide evidence. Science cannot prove evolution or creation by God. Instead of being a question to ponder, many turn evolution into a disease of learning by dogmatically insisting on "the fact of evolution".
Why would I say "no"? Well, it is definitely not because of my superior ability to look into the past and know everything that has ever happened, but it is because of the faith God gave me to trust His word as true.
The syllogism you ask for is essentially found in Hebrews 11:3. It is faith in His word that is the ultimate reason I believe life was created and did not evolve. Secondary reasons include scientific evidence, and the unreasonable idea that life "just happened".
mmm... sorry. I'm not a Christian, nor am I a thiest for that matter. I guess I found your post a bit awkward. While you delivered a reasonable presentation on syllogisms, it seem contrary (even illogical) to end with a faith based conclusion that quotes a verse from the Bible, no less.
Do you at least find it a little ironic that the roots of rhetoric and logic are essentially non-religious?
When you say "His" word... we (you and your audience, that is) haven't agreed on this premise.
You have some good questions. Think about what a syllogism is. It starts with a major premise. One major premise is "all animals evolved", while another is "all animals were created". You can make valid arguments from both, but valid arguments don't always equal truth. Belief in either one is faith based, and God gave me a gift of faith (Eph. 2:8-9) to trust that He is not lying when He says He created.
Why do you find it ironic that the Greeks did a lot of work with rhetoric and logic?
To say the Greeks did a lot of work with rhetoric is a bit of an understatement. The irony I was noting was in how you use the tools of reason to justify faith. I doubt Socrates would ever let Eph. 2:8-9 pass for truth without scrutiny.
'Valid arguments don't always equal truth'. I agree. However, what does equal truth?
I would assert that truth is predicated upon evidence. Do you not feel there is enough evidence to support evolution?
From what major premise can you derive that God is male?
My message was not to use the tools of reason to justify faith, but to show that believing in creation or evolution is a faith based decision, and not based on evidence. You can develop logical arguments for both, but believing either one requires faith, either faith in man's reasoning alone, or faith in God's word. Did you read Eph. 2:8-9? It talks about faith being a gift from God, and not something we earn.
So do you not believe there are any self-evident truths, only evidence-based ones?
Created?
MichaelHejazi 8 months ago
@MichaelHejazi Not Created?
ichthmus153 8 months ago
Great job!
Jaysen1976 1 year ago
im homeschooled and teaching myself geometry and this was a great help!! i really understood it, especially because you did a hands on example(trout). the ending was my favorite part though!:) GREAT JOB!!
MariahMusic711 1 year ago
@MariahMusic711 Glad you liked the ending!
ichthmus153 1 year ago
this rely helps
Petlovedurian 1 year ago
@44eelz , aww, come on, the ending is a great point too!
ichthmus153 1 year ago
@ichthmus153 ... its 2010, maybe it would have been a great ending in 1800
but props for the diagram info
44eelz 1 year ago
@44eelz, as far as I know, not much has changed between 1800 and 2010, unless there is a time machine I am unaware of. There is evidence for evolution and evidence for creation, but that is all science can do is provide evidence. Science cannot prove evolution or creation by God. Instead of being a question to ponder, many turn evolution into a disease of learning by dogmatically insisting on "the fact of evolution".
ichthmus153 1 year ago
??? Why would you say 'no'? What syllogism would you use to link the framing of the world around the word of god?
massrootsive 2 years ago
Why would I say "no"? Well, it is definitely not because of my superior ability to look into the past and know everything that has ever happened, but it is because of the faith God gave me to trust His word as true.
The syllogism you ask for is essentially found in Hebrews 11:3. It is faith in His word that is the ultimate reason I believe life was created and did not evolve. Secondary reasons include scientific evidence, and the unreasonable idea that life "just happened".
ichthmus153 2 years ago
mmm... sorry. I'm not a Christian, nor am I a thiest for that matter. I guess I found your post a bit awkward. While you delivered a reasonable presentation on syllogisms, it seem contrary (even illogical) to end with a faith based conclusion that quotes a verse from the Bible, no less.
Do you at least find it a little ironic that the roots of rhetoric and logic are essentially non-religious?
When you say "His" word... we (you and your audience, that is) haven't agreed on this premise.
massrootsive 2 years ago
You have some good questions. Think about what a syllogism is. It starts with a major premise. One major premise is "all animals evolved", while another is "all animals were created". You can make valid arguments from both, but valid arguments don't always equal truth. Belief in either one is faith based, and God gave me a gift of faith (Eph. 2:8-9) to trust that He is not lying when He says He created.
Why do you find it ironic that the Greeks did a lot of work with rhetoric and logic?
ichthmus153 2 years ago
To say the Greeks did a lot of work with rhetoric is a bit of an understatement. The irony I was noting was in how you use the tools of reason to justify faith. I doubt Socrates would ever let Eph. 2:8-9 pass for truth without scrutiny.
'Valid arguments don't always equal truth'. I agree. However, what does equal truth?
I would assert that truth is predicated upon evidence. Do you not feel there is enough evidence to support evolution?
From what major premise can you derive that God is male?
massrootsive 2 years ago
My message was not to use the tools of reason to justify faith, but to show that believing in creation or evolution is a faith based decision, and not based on evidence. You can develop logical arguments for both, but believing either one requires faith, either faith in man's reasoning alone, or faith in God's word. Did you read Eph. 2:8-9? It talks about faith being a gift from God, and not something we earn.
So do you not believe there are any self-evident truths, only evidence-based ones?
ichthmus153 2 years ago
Very Helpful Thanks
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Sgant2nd 2 years ago