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  • wow and the wanna be Marine at 4:55 i believe he has on a set of female chevrons does not have a proper hair cut. is weaing a NCO Belt Buckle when for the rank he is wearing he wouldnt have the eagle globe and anchor emblem jacket does not fit snug. he has way to many medals and ribbons i know gunnery sergeants who barely have that many. id like to meet the fakes and beat there asses

  • I agree with him. I was in afghanistan and when i returned home i was in a bar guy comes up and asks what i do. i said just got out the marines. he said he was in so i asked what unit he said the 82nd. i called him a fake because we dont have an 82 in the marines thats the army. ended up getting into a fight where i busted his brow. dont let these fakes take it from those who went over and never came back

  • I like the one about the marine gysgt, hes just a fat guy whos dressed up at 3:55 how'd nobody see through that?

  • WOW, just wow. All those photos, and not one is a real veteran or soldier? Maybe I'm not understanding something because I'm not American.

  • What a bunch of phonies

  • This type shit makes my asshole burn.....2/47th BCTB..Ft Benning..Sandhill...summer of 2001. Hooah!!! Rangers,lead the way

  • i think the best/most dumb fuck motherfucker is the one at 4:49 wearing army acu's with a navy seal eagle and trident oh and plus the us army patch...what a fuck nut!

  • i love the dude at 3:16 with a pathfinder patch on his forearm, a ranger 75th scroll (not a tab) on his shoulder, and the overseas service bars that are actually service stripes on his right arm. what a douchebag.

  • The dude a 4:55 Is a sorts of fucked up. You don't get that EGA on your belt brass until your an NCO. Not to mention his medals, wings and dive pin. What a schmuck. That shit makes me sick. Get my gd uniform off mf!@

  • Great videos brother. Semper Fi From a Marine vet.

  • Shouldn't legal action be taken with these ass holes. Can't they be locked up? How the fuck do you feel good about wearing things that people have died for to earn the right to wear. And not to mention I don't think the men and women who have died serving us would approve of you doing this. Please respect them, this shit is very serious. You fucking pussies!

  • @blakepenka They can be charged yes.

  • On 4:47, since when that the Army has their own Seal teams???

  • @royaladam They don't. But when a service member changes branches though, some awards/ badges/ medals are transferable and can only be worn as directed by their new branch regulations. This assfuck lieutenant WAS prior navy, but did he not earn the trident...

  • I as a civilian salute you for this. My father served in the Navy on the USS Langley during WW2, my brother Lance was 173rd Air Born Vietnam (65-70) and came home with a ton of fruit salad on his chest. My brother Guy was US Air Force C130 pilot, my brother Glenn was USMC 167th Battalion. I know real GI's and fakes just by the way they speak. Non GI's have no honor and stealing someone else's valor is disgusting and I agree they do need their asses whipped. Keep the videos coming please.

  • Man, these idiots never cease to amaze me. Do these morons not realize that when you are wearing more medals than the total James Stockdale and Audie Murphy earned combined, you are going to look like a fake? These people are such narcissists, they can't stop at lies about military service, they have to make it look like they won a war all by themselves.

  • What I bunch of dickheads!

  • 4:46 i didn't know the NAVY seals were apart of the ARMY now. you are so stupid at least make it believable better yet go take your ignourant ass and get a job.

  • 4:46 trident on army blouse...wow

  • Another thought, can we all get together & find this Barry the Bear then take over an entire course. I'll bring beer.

  • By the way, my wife wants your dog, what's the postage/packing/insurance to the U.K.

  • Another great video exposing in the best possible way more pieces of shit that as you say deserve a beating each & every day.

    Saw one thing that worried me, that being 2 of these fakes wearing law enforcement uniform. Are these fake as well or have they got themselves into these public service positions based on their B.S.

    Another question, the pos at 4.49, is he confused about what branch of the service he is meant to be posing as. I'm a Brit so don't know all your uniforms.

    Keep it up.

  • These people piss me off so bad. All I ever wanted was to be a Marine grunt. I did the hard work to earn the title United States Marine. I loved the challenge and the pride of doing difficult things.

    I'm now a 100% disabled Marine Veteran. I'll have to take medication for the rest of my life. I gave almost everything to wear that uniform so for these pathetic scumbags who haven't done anything thinking they can wear any uniform I would like to have a 'discussion' with them.

  • 4:18 lol does anyone really full 4 that shit

  • what douche bags

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  • @GulfVetSAF::: Have a look at "Was Jesse Ventura and Mr. Rogers Navy SEALs" video I did some time back...

  • @Buds131 Thanks for the clarification.

  • @ 3:02 nice flavor savor dickhead. i hope it saves all the flavors of cocks and asshole you will be eating when your sorry ass is arrested for being a fucking douchebag

  • I agree. They are doin mercedes commercials .army. Were i called them on it veterans day. They pulled them. Wonder if the girl was even army. Real veterans thanks!

  • Look up the actor Brian Dennehy. I used to like him 'till I read that although he did serve in the Marines, he never once saw combat in Vietnam like he claimed in at least one interview.

  • 4:46 (priceless)

  • guy at 3:17 looks like a M.A.S.H rerun 

  • Don has anyone ever told you that you are like chuck norris, not just in the way you look, but I just get this aura about you, like you represent honor courage and commitment, the question I have is why do you think the phonies have increased over time, what could have motivated them to do this, and why?

  • I can look at the way this guy talks and the way he looks tells me that he is the real deal.

  • so if i punch out a military fraud i get a free seal team experience course....... im game! naw just kidding don your the man for this thanks and keep at it!

  • Holy shit biscuts!! SEAL Tridents on Army uniforms? What the fuck? I mean, you don't know which branch of the service you are in? Jeeze. Guess you can't say they have a one-track mind. Hell don't think the train has left the station. Hmmmm.

  • @simmons381 When I was in Kuwait, I saw a couple of attack helo pilots in the ARMY that were former SEALS, wearing the Budweiser on their DCUs.

  • Hmmmmm that's weird haven't seen that

  • Did I see SEAL Tridents on Army uniforms? Holy fucktits.

    -11B with a SEAL Uncle

  • @Buds131 Im not saying this guys are fake or not cause i know some are but I'm just wondering these people been verified as fakes? I just want to shame those who need to be shamed and honor my brothers that have truly served. Cpl M USMC 1/4 0311

  • I am so thankful you are exposing the veteran imposters. I think we owe it to all of us who served to seek them out and expose them. Continue the hunt.

    S Snyder, MSgt USAF, Ret

  • I just want to say did anyone els point out the dumb fucks in this who are wearing Army ACU's, with army name tapes, army unit patches, and also wearing with those rather force recon wings, and or the seal trident. Hahahaha too funny fucking posers

  • @CavRecon3 -Not saying the Army 2LT isn't a fake-because he is (ArmyTimes has an article on him) but I do believe many Navy badges are authorized for wear on the ACU.

  • Don, you seriously need to give that "bear" guy an ass-whooping.

  • I guess the douche at 3:20 didn't know there are no chaplains in the Marines, we use the Navy's.

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  • dude, you are the man!!! please post more. its funny how real veterans dont try to make profit or get tabloid attention for what they've but phonies do because they have no honor or integrity.

  • i love that song <3

  • I gota go find this Barry guy... I want a free course...

  • Hi Buds131, are you sure about the elderly man posing on his car with special (i believe Navy Cross) plates being a fraud?I saw a newspaperarticle about him and it stated that this man was mad about the fraudsters with military awards (state issued) on their plates.By the way I love your videos although I'm Dutch.Take care..

  • I was a Navy Parachute Rigger for 10 years and I have only met a handful of people that actually earned their gold jump wings. Yet, EVERY picture I see of these fake ass veterans they all have them. Makes me wanna drop them out of an airplane with a roll of material under each arm and a sewing machine strapped to their back.

  • I wear a combat shirt my uncle gave me hope that doesnt make me a fake. I have 1 year before I am old enough to be in the army, I can't wait to sign up!

  • Your videos keep me laughing. Posers get on my nerves too! 

  • at 5:13 CW2 , the flash on his beret is what throws people. the beret is suppose to be maroon. and if so , his airborne wings are also suppose to have a flash behind it. representing that he is on jump status.he has quartermaster branch insignia and quartermaster regimental crest but has civil affairs on his collar. so are you civil affairs or quartemaster?

  • at 5:07 what did he claim? he is wearing civilians

  • @corvette200101 Who knows. .I don't know what that patch he's wearing but it's probably some fake shit. I'm sure he wouldn't expose someone on here as a fraud that really wasn't.

  • 4:59 i never saw a lance corporal with that many medals

  • at 4:52 is really the kicker. he is claiming navy seal and EOD,. but is only a buck sergeant with at least 15 years or more of service in a reserve unit. i would have gotten suspicious the instant i saw him

  • 3:58 baxter. one, the SF tab and Ranger tab is only worn on the left side. he has no branch insignia on his collar flaps. he has aviation wings above his EIB. plus most officers do not qualify with a M16 its usally a M9 so they don't wear the expert marksmenship badge.plus it looks like he is wearing a marine good conduct medal. officers don't get GCM's because they are always understood to be in good standing or conduct becoming

  • i wonder what gave away LTC Rivera at 4:38 because his uniform is actually correct? unless he was not a battalion commander. or in the army at all. he is wearing a 1st cavalry division patch. so i would have thought he was a BC in one of the battalions at fort hood. he also is wearing a 101st ABN combat patch so he was either assigned at fort campbell or attached to a unit while deployed. he is wearing a CIB so i would guess he is a infnatry officer. abn jumpmaster and air assault q'd..

  • Shootinstructorcom is no longer in service, Lol

  • Military fakers piss me the hell off! I am 17, went to meps on my 17th, went to basic on june 14th, came back august 25th, and here I am. a 17 year old soldier. Those guys on the other hand, were either jerking off or hanging out with their boyfriends when they were 17.

  • I wear Marine Corp t-shirts ,"Pain Is Weakness Leaving the Body." The reason I wear them is because I earned them doing the pull up challenge . I hope that doesn't make me a fake , but the one thing I did notice is the lack of Coast Guard fakes come on lol ..

  • @sjgiants12 no youre not fake, unless you claim you are or wear their uniform. i havent seen a coastie fake before, guess nobody wants to be them LOL

  • lol I love running into those guys, so fun to pump them full of bs and watch em run with it

  • Beyond the pure jackassery of these disrespectful P.o.S.'s, I ALMOST find it funny that some of them think they are either really clever or us all really dumb. Ribbon stacks all out of order, appearently Recon now has a FAT ASS mother f***er Squad, and this last bit i have no real clue on, but I dont believe the can wear the Trident( dont know if they can go to the school or not, not my lane) but im pretty sure an Army guy isnt going to have a Surface warfare and SEAL Trident. IDIOTS!!!!

  • Of all medals these retards pick the Medal Of Honor to play phony with, wrong beyond belief.

  • LMAOOOOO REAALLY???? REALLYYY????? LOOK AT 3:05 LMAOOOOO REALLY? OH YOU DONT STICK OUT LIKE A SOAR THUMB NOW DO YOU DUMBASS

  • @21AcesFtrSqdn LOL exactly what i was saying. Like a fucking deer in the headlights

  • lol You're mannerisms remind me of Paul Giamatti. :P

  • Epic fail!! Make these fu#k nuts feel like the dicks they are!! Post these fakes pics, and names everywhere!!! Give em hell Sr. Chief, and happy birthday!

  • dude at 3:02 is the worst fake ever lmao.

  • @911sanitarium looks like he orderedc the wrong size lol

  • @911sanitarium

    Your aren't kidding. Man, I laughed my ass off when I saw that one.

  • @911sanitarium

    But I think the guy at 3:49 might have him beat.

  • Truly a wonderful choice of music. Keep up the great work!

  • It's amazing when these dick for brains idiots put this on Facebook... Hiding behind an username 'bad_ass_seal007' or something equally stupid is bad enough but when you start broadcasting this via the internet and putting up fake pics and talking about your "missions".... I'm no SEAL, I'm a Marine, and even I can pick out the fakers a mile away. No Navy SEAL I know actively brags about it on Facebook for one thing. Keep doing what you're doing!

  • WOW, at 4:45, THAT SPITFUCK IS WEARING THE BADGE OF MY BRIGADE'S DIVISION! 42nd ID! WTF!!!!

  • It's funny that fools do stuff like this. I am continued to be amazed at how many just plain stupid folks are in this world. I don't give a flying fuck what folks think about me and what I did in the military. I like what you are doing dude....kick the punks asses.

    Vr,

    Steve Evams Ltc, USA (Retired)

  • As long as they are really navy seals

  • I love these videos! Great job. What is the email to submit a guy I caught pretending to be a seal? Fwi people ...navy seals who switch to the army can wear the trident i

  • @cjmccauley2000 POWNetwork org

  • fail 3:01 the hair style not in this army

  • This has to be some sort of mental disorder. Like the guy who lived or lives in Miami claiming to be "the second Christ" and has or had followers. These people need their own little island.

  • Several years ago I was waiting for the bus on Queens Blvd., NYC and I saw this bloke sporting Navy SEALs belt buckle, a beret with the trident on it, and an armless, buttonless jacket with a golden trident sewn on it. But the worst part was watching him walk around with piss poor crappy trident tattoo on his right arm. This was probably the most cheaply done tattoo I've ever seen, so cheap that it should be condemned as treasonous.

  • The domain shootinstructor.c o m is now up for sale.

  • 4:39 looks pretty legit to me, i wouldnt be able to tell he was fake.... i wish the medals and emblems were uncovered so i could tell

  • Lol 4:18 superimposed head XD

  • 4:46 Wow, U.S. Army Camo with a Navy SEAL trident? Holy shit I would love to fucking pick on that guy.

  • I have a question.( literal im not making fun of you, honest question) Im 16 and i want to be in the marines and possibly do some scout sniper, but im not in the marines now. so is it offensive if i wear marine corps shirts and clothing. Would you or any one else take it offensively.

  • @meandi760 If you're only wearing them because you're proud to and want to show your support, then I don't think that's a problem. It's when there's an intention to deceive others that you are actually in the Marines that you'll get your arse kicked.

  • @meandi760 Not at all man, i wear usmc t shirts alot. and i got a pair of oldschool trouser cammies i bought at a army navy store. and i'm a poole of the Marines. Just don't wear dress blues and stuff like that, or any kind of insignia or medals you have never earned, besides it being very disrespectfull, it is also considered bad luck (my recruiter told me this). Good luck!

  • Yes we get lots of them in Great Britain they have the nickname of Walts

  • Loving the video senior chief. but what id love to see even more is you shooting golf balls off the top of Barry's head. You could call it free shooting tips for a phony.

  • Loving the video senior chief. but what id love to see even more if you shooting golf balls off the top of Barry's head. You could call it free shooting tips for a phony.

  • Hey Don! Love watching these videos, but what was wrong with the guy at 5.18 wearing a SEALS sweat-top? I've got friends in the airborne who've swapped their tops with me (I'm ex-British infantry) and my son is in the Australian infantry (7RAR). If I wear the tops they've given me (I'm fucking proud to), does that make me a poser? And how do you know that guy wasn't in the same situation?

  • @mycal64::: NOBODY is in this video for simply wearing a SEAL Sweat Top, they are in this video because of the endless bullshit they spew and the endless lies they tell. Read the video description, Bro...

  • @Buds131 Ok, got it! Please continue frying the nuts off the lying scumbag. Just one further question tho: what is it about the US that these guys seem to be popping up all over the place? I mean, they've got it down to a fine art form (false ID card, certificates etc). I'm sure it happens, but I've never seen anything like this in the UK or Australia. What's happening over there??

  • @mycal64 what are you like an australian who lived in england who moved to the us and has a son in australia while your in the us? lol

  • @futureranger4life Almost correct. I'm Welsh, emigrated to Australia after my military service (hence the Australian son), and now live in Japan (7 years). Joined the infantry when I was 18 and have had the travel bug ever since. Life is as exciting as you make it.

  • ChromeGhost0219@ why?

  • Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..Yo­u're the greatest

  • would it be acceptable to wear a bdu t-shirt and pants in public with no patches. im not trying to fake i just think their quite comfortable. besides im 14

  • @halo3soap114 you will be put in the same social class as the posers but do it if you want

  • I joked around with the guys at work and told them that for desert storm I was force recon and it was so boring I went to the 2nd gulf war as a navy seal!We all got a big laugh out of it because they all know I fixed jets in the navy/helicopters in the army.But these turds ARE NOT FUNNY!!

  • I wish there was a drought of dumb asses!!

  • @ 5:41 Struhl = D Bag!!!

  • 4:46 U.S. Army with a trident... MOTHER F$#KER. Oh and now this doche at 4:53 with army and navy and A 42 Division Patch, I wore that patch because i was in the 42nd, and thats alot of service stripes to be an E-5 thats in the National Guard. Probably should have put the rank of SGT MAJOR OF THE UNIVERSE something more believable..

  • 4:46 U.S. Army with a trident... MOTHER F$#KER.

  • Keep up the good work. We had a "Former SEAL" who was our Fire Chief for many years until he got busted out and decided it was best to step down and leave the area, oh by the way his "Master's Degree" and "Bachelor's Degree" was from one of those diploma mill's, you know the kind where you pay them X amount of dollars and they give you a nice shinny diploma. His name is Patrick Simpson, and I hear now that he has a job with Homeland Security, I'm sure with his false credential's. Keep it up

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  • please poke these people.its sicking, I know a 32 year old,that claims he was in Vietnam,doing some secret service shit blah,blah ,blah. but the worst part is that his wife backs up the lie.Its .she even lets him knock her son around. for some of the time he says he was a marine he was in jail for shooting his own son.his name is josh humpherys and hers is becca humphreys. this dirt bag went as far to get a big marine tattoo.i cant post a link but anyone that want one let me know. (continued)

  • i know how this man feels , i catch phony marines, fake seals, and rangers on the internet all the time and i hate that shit. i always poke at them till they quit

  • 4:09, this phonie's wearing a female cover!!!!!

  • Dude your Badass, lol

  • Anyone who kills anyone cause the government told them to do so is an idiot :) x

  • @Irene211084 Loser

  • @Subaru255 & a loser, lol :) x

  • @Irene211084 What would you know anyway....

  • I can't stand fake Warrant Officers.

  • Thank you sir for these videos, its about time someone cracks down on these fools.

    Lcpl. Dudek

    A REAL UNITED STATES MARINE!

  • "make shitty comments about them." right on man. ahahah

  • Thanks so much for this video, The army does authorize the wear of naval pins on their uniforms. We have 2 former submariners and a former SWO in my unit, but a trident would be extremely unlikely/rare if there's any at all. If you see a "navy seal" or a "ranger" that's a PT failure- somethings wrong lol

  • i love the guys in marine an army uniforms with bud weiser pins

  • RE: Alleged former USAF command pilot. I have never seen the aiguillette worn on civilian jacket. Ever.

  • lmao love the dude with the SEAL trident on an army BDU uniform and the dude at 5:34 with kuwait ribbon and korea ribbon and vietnam ribbon what a fuckin badass fuckin 3 wars! holy shit lmao and hes a marine recon with a special forces beret goddamn whata beast lmao

  • lmao love the dude with the SEAL trident on an army BDU uniform

  • when i see this shit i think about all the real veterans who are dieing in nursing homes while these guys are parading around, if it where up to me id put theses horse-dicks on house clearing details in iraq and see how long they last, those fuckn chunky gasbags

  • yea my uncle was in the Army for 4 years and in Iraq 2005-2006 and he doesn't talk about it and has nothing in his house that indicates that he was in the Army besides his uniform in his room in the closet

  • most people who i know who were in the military don't talk about their service.

  • DUDE, some of those assholes need to get beat like the people in "police" uniform with their military medals, and you have some LCPL with like 12 or 15 ribbons really!!!!! they need a shooting squad and some of those "soldiers" with Navy Seal Insignia as their CAR

  • DUDE, some of those assholes need to get beat like the people in "police" uniform with their military medals, and you have some LCPL with like 12 or 15 ribbons really!!!!! they need a shooting squad

  • 155 millimeter.... this guy's statements do not match true veteran's... he says a dd214 "doesn't show anything/doesn't mean anything".... also advocates kis NOT joining the military. He represents himself as a veteran, yet despite numerous requests by numerous people for proof, he instead hid his videos claiming vet status and attacks those questioning his legitimacy as "dishonorable".. even though they themselves (myself included) can provide documentation.

  • OUTSTANDING

  • WOW...that is just sick. Makes me wanna puke  They're everywhere happy hunting boys!

  • Bunch of fucktards.  Do it for real or don't claim you did it.

  • I tried out for the SEALS in 1978. HAHAHAHA Ended up with the Marines as a battlefield Corpsman. Best I could do. But it was a helluva ride. Good video. I subscribed. The Army guy with the SEAL Trident on his camos made me spit coffee all over my computer. If I couldn't do it, he can't either. At least I tried. :)

  • HOO YAH CHIEF...Keep kicking those lying assholes.

    We who know , know the real Heros amongst us...

    Seeya

    Dude

  • Just look here on YouTube - 155millimeter claims to be a Vet but is unable to produce a DD214

    My old Veteran Service Officer, Bill Devereaux was former Director with NJDVA - busted for tax evasion by putting himself down for 100% disabled, seems he wasn't the combat wounded 82nd Airborne trooper he claimed to be - turns out he was a payroll clerk who broke his ankle jumping off the back of a truck

  • awww I guess shootinstructor is no longer on the interwebs. maybe he took it down for national security reasons? Or did he move the shooting school to Yemen?

  • The Jim Holben case (@ 5:34) was local to me. This shit-tard was everywhere. He even did honor guard duties with some local veterans groups. It was big news when the media caught up to him.

  • I get aggressive just looking at these faces.

  • It hurts to see some of these jokers sporting the C.I.B(Combat Infantry Badge) There are alot of heros that didn't make back home to wear that shiny medal(and some fools who died chasing it!)Being an infantryman isn't nearly as high speed as a seal or ranger.They give us the ribbons cuz they can't pay us enough for what we sacrifice(Life,limbs,Marriage,­sanity etc...)

  • i don't know my military rank/job tags very well, but i'm pretty sure theres no rainbow job like the guy at 4:51 is wearing.

  • @cloudpaladin yes it's the new york army national gaurd.The give away is the navy seal trident and eagle along with the naval surface warfare badge beneath it.There are former navy in the national gaurd who are authorized to where prior service badges on their current uniform But his placement of the awards are wrong.

  • awkward

  • For example a guy claims to have been a Special Forces sniper in Vietnam who is so badass he took out a NVA colonel then hacked his head off with machete and drank the blood from his skull then kept it as gruesome souvenir on his mantle usually turns out to have merely been a file clerk in the reserve for three years before tricking his way into getting a med discharge over a stubbed toe.

  • loving the SFC at 3:05 who is sporting 101st airborne patches yet the lowest precedence ribbon is a Marine Security Guard ribbon which can only be awarded to members of Marine Corps MSG duty. oh and the douche nozzle sould patch really completes the asshat image.

  • Oh god there are so many of them....

  • epic fail at 4:47

  • @NavySealAirsoft haha SEAl trident on an army uniform.... wtf is he an army whale?

  • What did the phonies do?

    1) Stole a title they did not earn

    2) Dishonored the men who have earned the title

    3) Dishonored the men who put their lives on the line for their team/country

    4) Disrespected the SEALs family members

    They have no honor, no respect, and no loyalty to anyone but their own sorry asses.

  • Your facial expressions are GOLDEN!! 

  • I want to fight Airborne Willie

  • I couldn't make it past Airborne Willie

  • @dasaint66 yes his crap is like ridicously over kill. who mixes civilian pins and patches with awards. these jerks just don't seem to understand real servicemen just don't throw medals and badges and awards all over the place and put crap any where. its looks stupid and unprofessional.

  • at 3:58 the real Major general carmapella is darker complected plus his mexican. i don't who this a-hole. plus he was never a SF officer green beret.

  • at 4:29 i don't what unit that gave him that fouregee but on units with 82'd ABN has it. his ribbons look out of order. he is not a infantry officer so i don't know why he is wearing a infantry blue cord. looks really fat. definetaly not in accordance with AR 600-9.

  • 6:13

    New addition to Dress Blues "Delta" uniform--Wyatt Earp mustache

    lol!

  • 3:55

    you gotta be fucking shitting me

  • ROTF!! @ 3:02

    nice regulation "soul patch" there, bro!

  • I hate fake phony vets...they make me sick!

  • 3:01 Wow...

  • Damn i hate all this phony Marines since im joining next year and going for Force Recon

  • i just posted this on my facebook

  • I wish it was illegal to sell medals...

  • @ 4:45 -a soldier with a Trident.. what the!

  • My son in Afghanistan now and breaking my heart to wait for him to return in February...fuk these clowns they fuk my head up..cowardly bastards.they need be in my shoes for a night or two,then they may see things differently...take care out there.