From "The New Bill Cosby Show" (1972). I saw this when it was first broadcast and this is the first time I have seen this since. I remember this, because the opening dancers/singers sang "Hooray for Captain Spaulding". Usually the show started with the theme and one of the dancers saying something like, "...and here he is, William H. (and the "H" stands for Hamhocks) Cosby! Not the greatest of shows, but at least we got Cosby and a bit more Groucho. Thanks!
TV Party.com claims it was sceduled opposite of Monday Night Football but since that is only for a few months, I can't see why that would have been the main reason.
Given the amount of Jim Crow imagery found in the Marx Brothers' films ("Who dat man," anyone?), it's amazing that Cosby would want to see past all that for the humor. Gotta give Mr. Jell-O Kodak Pepsi some props.
Yes, in 1972, the Cos was all bent out of shape by some stray movie routines from 1929 & 1930. Seriously, it's not as if Groucho were part of "Amos and Andy" or "Mack & Moran." It wasn't the main part of the Marx's shtick by any means. If you had a time machine and went back to that era, you'd find that that sort of minstrel imagery was fairly common in a lot of media.
I disagree with the commentary over this interview. Nobody could say for sure if Groucho did or did not respect Cosby. If I had to give an analysis I'd say this, Groucho was obviously having fun and was consistent with his style of humor which incorporates insults. If Groucho had no respect, he would have laid it on much heavier and seemed impatient to leave but he did not and he actually enjoyed himself the whole time.
@Flinklehurst The bearded commentator is a great TV Producer, George Schlatter. He produced Rowan and Martins Laugh-In for one. Check out wikipedia for more info
I don't think more should be read into the respect or lack of between either of these two giants in the field of comedy than can be appreciated from a cursory viewing of this clip. If anything, I would like to think Groucho had respect for a black comedian working clean and reaching mainstream America, as Cosby would have had reverence for a legend who graced his presence and still was nearly as funny in his 80's as he was in his prime at half that age.
I surprised by the amount of people who think that this was a competition between the two performers. It was a BIT! Groucho wouldn't have been on the show if Cosby didn't invite him. Groucho wouldn't accepted I he didn't like Cosby. BOTH are great perfomers. They have both made the world laugh. There's room for them both in comic history. The bigots that seem compelled to throw in racist crap however, will probably forgotten like yesterday's toilet flush.
Groucho after his radio show should have gone off into a happy retirement. Seeing him as dopey as this is disappointing. Apparently it was his dippy assistant's idea to do these shows in his old age.
@jpw111784 You didn't answere my question, and my comment was more in line with hairstyles of the seventies. If you ever get a chance watch the naked gun movies in particular during a flash back to the seventies O.J. Simpson has such a large perm on his head he cannot get through a door :-)
@GilbertSmith Yeah SOME of it was worked out but some of it was probably ad lib, Groucho was known for Ad lib, in the movies, at least the first few it was all figured out during shows that were basically ad-lib
Bill Cosby idolized Groucho Marx to the point of eventually morphing into a black version of Groucho. He even did the remake of "You Bet Your Life." Well Bill, you have excellent taste in your choice of the type of man to copy.
Not sure why it says "last show". This was in 1973, but Groucho also made a comedy appearance with George Burns on a Bob Hope Special in 1976. lol Groucho just pummeled Cosby in this clip, hilarious.
Is this video from any documental or something like that?/ ¿Podrían decirme si este video pertenece a algun documental o algo parecido? / Podrieu dir-me si aquest video és d'algún documental o alguna cosa pareguda? Gràcies
@changaleona21 vaya da la casualidad de que no soy catalana, y lo que he hablado ni siquiera era catalán. Aunque ya veo que lo diga en el idioma que lo diga, nadie se digna a contestar a mi pregunta.
@BehindYourEyes7 ¿Catalán? A ver, el vídeo está en inglés, y está subtitulado en español, hasta ahí todo bien... ¿pero qué pinta el catalán aquí? Dios, vaya tela con los fanáticos nacionalistas catalufos.
Does anyone else beside me realize that Bill Cosby and Groucho Marx are doing a Vaudeville routine? Cosby is the straight man, and Groucho is the funny man. Cosby greets Groucho as "doctor" as in Doctor Hackenbush. It's a vaudeville routine folks. Groucho looks at Cosby with respect. I can see that. Groucho said that a funny man needs a great straight man and that's what's going on here. Look at the nature of the questions. "Life after death" etc. All asked to set Groucho up for the punch line.
@Lockemeister Im happy there is people like you, i asked that same because i look weird the way they acted but i couldnt believe what the commentator of the documentary was saying neither, your version clears completely my doubts about thet interview . Thanks a lot
I don't think the commentator knows what he is talking about. Obviously this routine between Cosby and Groucho was mostly worked out beforehand. The way they greeted each other, a la "The Cocoanuts" was obviously worked out beforehand. Groucho seems to like and respect Bill Cosby. If he didn't why would he bother to go on his show in the first place. The way Cosby ontroduced Groucho as the characters, that's how Groucho acted. He was in character. It's a rehearsed routine. DUH!
@Lockemeister I was thinking...what if Fatty McCorpus literally meant "Groucho"? In other words, Julius Henry liked Bill Cosby, but "Groucho" wasn't supposed to, as part of the act. And so we're just misreading what McCorpus meant?
@LouisLambert That's a good idea, but I don't think so. Julius Henry Marx was known as Groucho Marx since the 1920's. He was known as Groucho Marx on his TV show, and apparently his Oscar is made out to Groucho Marx. Everyone world wide knew him as Groucho Marx and that's the name he went by.
@Lockemeister I'm sure it wasnt entirely rehearsed. Groucho is best when left to his own device. Sure they talked. probably even brainstormed. but the best Groucho is the Groucho your not expecting. I'll bet any amount of money Dr. Cosby enjoyed every moment of that interview.
@Lockemeister He didn't say that Groucho didn't like Cosby, but that he didn't respect Cosby. Groucho was well known for having little respect for anyone, and he got his best laughs when he was tearing some poor victim to shreds with his wisecracks. I think he may have quite liked Bill (I still do), but I also think that Bill knew exactly what he was in for when he had Groucho on the show.
@Lockemeister right after the "serious doubts ...before death" line when Groucho says the way we're going now look at Cosby's face; proof your right, at least the respect thing. Groucho seems at his best when he does what he does because thats what he is doing when he does those things.
@Lockemeister Absolutely, Lockemeister. I agree. If Groucho didn't like Cosby, he wouldn't have done the show. And how could ANYBODY not love Bill Cosby? Put downs were Groucho's shtick, as every fan knows. But groucho wouldn't have wasted words being funny with anybody he didn't truly like.
@Lockemeister I don't think they necessarily worked the whole thing out. These are two master comedians - they could very well have said "let's go out there and play." I do agree that the commentator's full of it, though.
@Lockemeister Yes, I agree that it was obviously rehearsed. In fact, if you watch Groucho's eyes he is reading from a cue card on a few occasions. He was almost 83 here (it was 1973) and had already had his first stroke so he was not as quick on his feet. Unfortunately for Cosby fans however it was indeed written in one of Groucho's biographies that he did not care for Cosby. Let me add that IMHO George Schlatter's comments were not only disrespectful, but also unfunny and totally inaccurate.
I was reading the biography of Groucho, "Hello, I must be going" It was really funny, the introduction was written by Bill Cosby, there was also included a conversation between Cosby and Groucho it was really funny
This show is from 1973. It wasn't the last appearance by Groucho. He made an appearance to accept an honorary Academy Award in 1974, a brief appearance in the Bob Hope TV special "Joys" in 1976, and a remote appearance in "CBS Salutes Lucy" in December of 1976.
I have read that Groucho Marx didn't like Bill Cosby. Has anyone else heard about this? I have also read that Groucho was annoyed that Cosby had a better brand of cigars when he appeared on this show.
@LTopomcFly You are correct. the commentator has no clue. If Groucho really disliked Cosby, he wouldn't bother to go on his show. This looks like a Vaudeville routine. How they greeted each other. Cosby calls Groucho "doctor". Then Cosby assumes the role of a straight man and Groucho does the punch lines.
If this is 1973, I can remember a night a year or two before this, where Cos was guest-hosting the Tonight Show, and Groucho was a guest. They both did The Walk, and then, later during the conversation, Cos asked, "Am I a good comic?" And Groucho said, "I think you're a damn fine comic."
In which case it wasn't his last appearance. He was on an awful Bob Hope special called "Joys," a takeoff on "Jaws." I remember it, it managed to be both bad and sad.
Year?
ConfusedSponge 4 days ago
bill cosby at gd pysique.,he is hot!
rajinirulez 2 weeks ago
Groucho gots dat don't give a fuck swag.
tschrempvideo 4 weeks ago 3
Two guys who showed you can be funny without cursing or being vulgar.
leafyutube 1 month ago 4
Wow. 2 legends!
yryriza 1 month ago
From "The New Bill Cosby Show" (1972). I saw this when it was first broadcast and this is the first time I have seen this since. I remember this, because the opening dancers/singers sang "Hooray for Captain Spaulding". Usually the show started with the theme and one of the dancers saying something like, "...and here he is, William H. (and the "H" stands for Hamhocks) Cosby! Not the greatest of shows, but at least we got Cosby and a bit more Groucho. Thanks!
gilgamess 2 months ago
@gilgamess I wonder why it failed?
TV Party.com claims it was sceduled opposite of Monday Night Football but since that is only for a few months, I can't see why that would have been the main reason.
MIKECNW 1 week ago
Given the amount of Jim Crow imagery found in the Marx Brothers' films ("Who dat man," anyone?), it's amazing that Cosby would want to see past all that for the humor. Gotta give Mr. Jell-O Kodak Pepsi some props.
purvicide 2 months ago
@purvicide
Yes, in 1972, the Cos was all bent out of shape by some stray movie routines from 1929 & 1930. Seriously, it's not as if Groucho were part of "Amos and Andy" or "Mack & Moran." It wasn't the main part of the Marx's shtick by any means. If you had a time machine and went back to that era, you'd find that that sort of minstrel imagery was fairly common in a lot of media.
felixjazzage 2 months ago
I disagree with the commentary over this interview. Nobody could say for sure if Groucho did or did not respect Cosby. If I had to give an analysis I'd say this, Groucho was obviously having fun and was consistent with his style of humor which incorporates insults. If Groucho had no respect, he would have laid it on much heavier and seemed impatient to leave but he did not and he actually enjoyed himself the whole time.
stevenmiles 3 months ago
That bearded commentator sure as heck had nothing interesting to say. Guess it's hard to blame him given the people he was interrupting.
Flinklehurst 3 months ago
@Flinklehurst The bearded commentator is a great TV Producer, George Schlatter. He produced Rowan and Martins Laugh-In for one. Check out wikipedia for more info
kp710 3 months ago
Still one of the most quotable comedians of all time. "I had a wonderful time, but this wasn't it!"
DaithiDublin 3 months ago
2 of some of the greatest comedians who ever took breath.
I admire and respect Bill Cosby and Groucho Marx <3
CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN 3 months ago
Cosby looked up to Groucho so that's why this is such a great interview it's like meeting your inspiration.
the44118 4 months ago
dear god is that cosby?
w3stwood 6 months ago
"Glad to see ya! You look, uh...have a sit down."
JJgamer93 6 months ago
This is not Groucho's last TV appearance. His final was on the Bob Hope Special, with George Burns.
JLogic72 8 months ago 8
is this unscripted?
PapGripDezi 9 months ago
I don't think more should be read into the respect or lack of between either of these two giants in the field of comedy than can be appreciated from a cursory viewing of this clip. If anything, I would like to think Groucho had respect for a black comedian working clean and reaching mainstream America, as Cosby would have had reverence for a legend who graced his presence and still was nearly as funny in his 80's as he was in his prime at half that age.
fullbag50 10 months ago
I surprised by the amount of people who think that this was a competition between the two performers. It was a BIT! Groucho wouldn't have been on the show if Cosby didn't invite him. Groucho wouldn't accepted I he didn't like Cosby. BOTH are great perfomers. They have both made the world laugh. There's room for them both in comic history. The bigots that seem compelled to throw in racist crap however, will probably forgotten like yesterday's toilet flush.
strato46 10 months ago
Groucho really outclassed Cosby by a mile!!
cleancab 11 months ago
Groucho after his radio show should have gone off into a happy retirement. Seeing him as dopey as this is disappointing. Apparently it was his dippy assistant's idea to do these shows in his old age.
flimpkin4 11 months ago
Dr. Hack-in-a-puss
blizzardballz 11 months ago
What's that black guy got on his head?
sosadman1 11 months ago
@sosadman1 LOL - you little coward sitting behind your computer screen. Say that to a black guy in real life, dare you..
jpw111784 7 months ago
@jpw111784 You didn't answere my question, and my comment was more in line with hairstyles of the seventies. If you ever get a chance watch the naked gun movies in particular during a flash back to the seventies O.J. Simpson has such a large perm on his head he cannot get through a door :-)
sosadman1 7 months ago
@sosadman1 i was wrong i guess. sorry.
jpw111784 7 months ago
What year this was made?
maciekur 11 months ago
Groucho Marx was just so funny naturally. He was great that way. That's just the way he was.
ridewave444 11 months ago
@GilbertSmith Yeah SOME of it was worked out but some of it was probably ad lib, Groucho was known for Ad lib, in the movies, at least the first few it was all figured out during shows that were basically ad-lib
ClassicalSorrow 1 year ago
Groucho hated Bill Cosby
bluejay02920 1 year ago
Does anyone know how old Groucho is on this show, or what year this show was? Thanks.
Variated 1 year ago
@Variated Wikipedia says that he appeared with Cosby in '73, which would make him 83.
AbuAvital 1 year ago
@AbuAvital Ok thanks. Groucho looks very good for 83 years old :o
Variated 1 year ago
Bill Cosby idolized Groucho Marx to the point of eventually morphing into a black version of Groucho. He even did the remake of "You Bet Your Life." Well Bill, you have excellent taste in your choice of the type of man to copy.
JeffGR4 1 year ago
the analysis is boring - it's groucho we want to hear
claudelebel55 1 year ago
Not sure why it says "last show". This was in 1973, but Groucho also made a comedy appearance with George Burns on a Bob Hope Special in 1976. lol Groucho just pummeled Cosby in this clip, hilarious.
filmidioten 1 year ago
back in my day..
smirov 1 year ago
weres the jello
randomguy209 1 year ago
Is this video from any documental or something like that?/ ¿Podrían decirme si este video pertenece a algun documental o algo parecido? / Podrieu dir-me si aquest video és d'algún documental o alguna cosa pareguda? Gràcies
BehindYourEyes7 1 year ago
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changaleona21 4 months ago
@changaleona21 vaya da la casualidad de que no soy catalana, y lo que he hablado ni siquiera era catalán. Aunque ya veo que lo diga en el idioma que lo diga, nadie se digna a contestar a mi pregunta.
BehindYourEyes7 4 months ago
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@BehindYourEyes7 ¿Catalán? A ver, el vídeo está en inglés, y está subtitulado en español, hasta ahí todo bien... ¿pero qué pinta el catalán aquí? Dios, vaya tela con los fanáticos nacionalistas catalufos.
changaleona21 4 months ago
I think its a sign of how good Groucho was when he leaves Bill Cosby speechless, it typifies him.
Tkred1 1 year ago
Wow! Groucho was great and sharp even up until the end.
AveIvy 1 year ago
So, is that other guy Bill Cosby?
LisaSimpsonRules1st 1 year ago
bills afro was righteous
Praseodymium59 1 year ago 2
gooooooood bill is sooooo lame go groucho :D
Blackjesus3 1 year ago
is that a very young bill cosby?
pinkyellowblackred 1 year ago
@pinkyellowblackred Yes, Cosby was in his mid 30's at the time
TomBarristerX 1 year ago
@TomBarristerX thats so wierd
pinkyellowblackred 1 year ago
"You'd come right after Nixon." "And so would I if had a chance."
maddymud 1 year ago
Then he died
alajuk 1 year ago
If only there wasn't the commentator babbling
calideson 1 year ago 4
Does anyone else beside me realize that Bill Cosby and Groucho Marx are doing a Vaudeville routine? Cosby is the straight man, and Groucho is the funny man. Cosby greets Groucho as "doctor" as in Doctor Hackenbush. It's a vaudeville routine folks. Groucho looks at Cosby with respect. I can see that. Groucho said that a funny man needs a great straight man and that's what's going on here. Look at the nature of the questions. "Life after death" etc. All asked to set Groucho up for the punch line.
Lockemeister 1 year ago 5
@Lockemeister Im happy there is people like you, i asked that same because i look weird the way they acted but i couldnt believe what the commentator of the documentary was saying neither, your version clears completely my doubts about thet interview . Thanks a lot
pistoleta 1 year ago
I don't think the commentator knows what he is talking about. Obviously this routine between Cosby and Groucho was mostly worked out beforehand. The way they greeted each other, a la "The Cocoanuts" was obviously worked out beforehand. Groucho seems to like and respect Bill Cosby. If he didn't why would he bother to go on his show in the first place. The way Cosby ontroduced Groucho as the characters, that's how Groucho acted. He was in character. It's a rehearsed routine. DUH!
Lockemeister 1 year ago 33
@Lockemeister I'm with you on that, as well. My eyes and ears were not taking in what the commentator enjoyed saying.
LouisLambert 1 year ago
@Lockemeister I was thinking...what if Fatty McCorpus literally meant "Groucho"? In other words, Julius Henry liked Bill Cosby, but "Groucho" wasn't supposed to, as part of the act. And so we're just misreading what McCorpus meant?
LouisLambert 1 year ago
@LouisLambert That's a good idea, but I don't think so. Julius Henry Marx was known as Groucho Marx since the 1920's. He was known as Groucho Marx on his TV show, and apparently his Oscar is made out to Groucho Marx. Everyone world wide knew him as Groucho Marx and that's the name he went by.
Lockemeister 1 year ago
@Lockemeister I wondered....
Cheers! ^_^ /
LouisLambert 1 year ago
@Lockemeister I'm sure it wasnt entirely rehearsed. Groucho is best when left to his own device. Sure they talked. probably even brainstormed. but the best Groucho is the Groucho your not expecting. I'll bet any amount of money Dr. Cosby enjoyed every moment of that interview.
blizzardballz 1 year ago
@Lockemeister He didn't say that Groucho didn't like Cosby, but that he didn't respect Cosby. Groucho was well known for having little respect for anyone, and he got his best laughs when he was tearing some poor victim to shreds with his wisecracks. I think he may have quite liked Bill (I still do), but I also think that Bill knew exactly what he was in for when he had Groucho on the show.
NewhamMatt 1 year ago
@Lockemeister right after the "serious doubts ...before death" line when Groucho says the way we're going now look at Cosby's face; proof your right, at least the respect thing. Groucho seems at his best when he does what he does because thats what he is doing when he does those things.
blizzardballz 11 months ago
@Lockemeister Absolutely, Lockemeister. I agree. If Groucho didn't like Cosby, he wouldn't have done the show. And how could ANYBODY not love Bill Cosby? Put downs were Groucho's shtick, as every fan knows. But groucho wouldn't have wasted words being funny with anybody he didn't truly like.
bvscfanatic 5 months ago
@Lockemeister... a sign of disrespect
bohemianpressure 3 months ago
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dfrioli 3 months ago
@Lockemeister I don't think they necessarily worked the whole thing out. These are two master comedians - they could very well have said "let's go out there and play." I do agree that the commentator's full of it, though.
dfrioli 3 months ago
@Lockemeister Yes, I agree that it was obviously rehearsed. In fact, if you watch Groucho's eyes he is reading from a cue card on a few occasions. He was almost 83 here (it was 1973) and had already had his first stroke so he was not as quick on his feet. Unfortunately for Cosby fans however it was indeed written in one of Groucho's biographies that he did not care for Cosby. Let me add that IMHO George Schlatter's comments were not only disrespectful, but also unfunny and totally inaccurate.
TheTubePortal 2 months ago
I was reading the biography of Groucho, "Hello, I must be going" It was really funny, the introduction was written by Bill Cosby, there was also included a conversation between Cosby and Groucho it was really funny
JeffZHigs1 1 year ago
@JeffZHigs1 Best bio I've ever read on a comedian and the best in the biz.
dagwood39 1 year ago
Listen to his interview with Dick Cavett (If you haven't already) in which he talks about Irving Thalberg - I could listen to Groucho all day.
Amazing though, in this video he is quite old. However he still could easily outwit Cosby who is significantly younger.
Cosby: "Where would you put me in terms of comedians?"
Marx: "You'd come straight after Nixon....(Laughter) and so would I if I had a chance"
danutcase66 1 year ago
This show is from 1973. It wasn't the last appearance by Groucho. He made an appearance to accept an honorary Academy Award in 1974, a brief appearance in the Bob Hope TV special "Joys" in 1976, and a remote appearance in "CBS Salutes Lucy" in December of 1976.
TomBarristerX 1 year ago
the best comedian, groucho, meets the worst comedian ever...cosby.
cirosuperiore 1 year ago
At least whats his face was respectfull to groucho, These days you would have had sharpton calling him an old white racist.
conservanazi 1 year ago
Coincidentally, Cosby tried to revive "You Bet Your Life" in 1992. It bombed, lasting only three episodes.
bobjfs 2 years ago
Too bad we have to wade through yet
another "I knew Groucho" commentator
instead of getting MORE of the SHOW!
I saw this one back then and it was
GOOD, and there was MORE OF IT!
4freespeech 2 years ago 7
I have read that Groucho Marx didn't like Bill Cosby. Has anyone else heard about this? I have also read that Groucho was annoyed that Cosby had a better brand of cigars when he appeared on this show.
MIKESOWELL 2 years ago
From what i see in this video, they had great chemistry between them, and Groucho seems to really like the kid, in his misanthropic way.
EvenEvenOdd 2 years ago 4
No. They were good friends, knew eachother's families, invited eachother over. Cosby wrote about their friendship in the book "I Must Be Going"
LTopomcFly 2 years ago 3
@LTopomcFly You are correct. the commentator has no clue. If Groucho really disliked Cosby, he wouldn't bother to go on his show. This looks like a Vaudeville routine. How they greeted each other. Cosby calls Groucho "doctor". Then Cosby assumes the role of a straight man and Groucho does the punch lines.
Lockemeister 1 year ago 2
The Cigar thing is mentioned in this clip.
paultheeggman 1 year ago
If this is 1973, I can remember a night a year or two before this, where Cos was guest-hosting the Tonight Show, and Groucho was a guest. They both did The Walk, and then, later during the conversation, Cos asked, "Am I a good comic?" And Groucho said, "I think you're a damn fine comic."
Big applause from the audience.
tuxguys 2 years ago
Even in his very last appearance, he was as sharp and funny as ever. "Assuming you ARE a comedian..."
GilbertSmith 2 years ago 41
his last tv appearance was on the bob hope show a few years after this.
BANNJAXX187 1 year ago
The best thing about this is the spanish over dub and subtitles. Makes life worth living... before death that is.
jxderosa 2 years ago
Ah, I remember this, and Cos blows it with the name "J. Cleaver Loophole," as it was actually "J. Cheever Loophole." Blame it on the writers....
LiquidGardener 2 years ago 4
I was 4 years old when I saw this. First time I saw Groucho on TV.
911Shaman 2 years ago 3
holy shit is that bill cosby?
great tho
DarthClam 2 years ago
So this is.. 1975?
ragemanchoo82 2 years ago
1973
vhsorbeta35 2 years ago
In which case it wasn't his last appearance. He was on an awful Bob Hope special called "Joys," a takeoff on "Jaws." I remember it, it managed to be both bad and sad.
dukemantee2 2 years ago
I don't know that special but based on your warning I hope never to see it. However we can then both agree that this video is mistitled.
vhsorbeta35 2 years ago
I agree. That "special" sucked big time. And poor Groucho, confined to a wheelchair and barely able to speak.
torchkit 2 years ago