If they could read our thoughts each and every person would be a terrorist or at least suspicious enough to be locked up for at least something, Now this is us as normal civilians. Where on earth do these interrogators belong to???
I would be proud to be a terrorist against idiots such as this!???
Do people and actions such as this not actually force people to become terrorists???
Difficult questions to say the least - of 1 thing I'm absolutely sure. This is very very wrong!!!!
fuck u america fuck its government fuck fuck who eva suport them and believe they are bringing piece becouse they dont exept killing and torturing ppl
this is why they will burn america down to the ground stupid country thats why the world hates you thats why we despise you and your government you dont believe in freedom you fucking liars im mad as hell watching this just think what terrorist are feeling when they see this child crying for his mother what did you think would happen when your people are exposed then what you made a war with muslims for oil and now they are going to burn you with it you fucking greedy fucking nation fuck bush
first of all "dustyballz33", we didnt elect bush, his brother overturned a supreme court decision for recount. Second, when you speak as violently as you do, you lose all credibility, and yourself, come off as a "terrorist".
This is just the tip of the iceberg. Children as young as 8 and routinely in their teens were raped in front of their parents. Girls & boys raped in front of their fathers and mothers to induce coercion. Women raped & tortured so badly that many women strapped bomb making materials to their chest to be exploded in populated marketplaces in Iraq at the authorization of CIA. These people need to be locked up!!
Screw the memos we need to see the videos. Memos are what you give a secretary!
One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter......while i may not agree with the many forms of radical islam they do have a point in that america is heavy handed when i comes to foreign affairs.. thank goodness Obama is trying to hold out an olive branch and not beating the war drums like Bush.
in my opinion America has started wars in too many countries that arent a threat to the US in any shape or form.... there will always be those who want to attack us from almost every country on earth
I was just saying Christians here in america have a very interesting way of expressing and interpreting how to ask (Christ-like) with the advocation of torture and unneccessary wars, and the taking of innocent lives.
whats up with all these christian right wingers saying waterboarding is ok. I dont see Jesus approving for some reason. Do unto others.... love thy neighbor and such ftw
i may not agree with alot of what Obama is doing but his new approach to foreign policy is refreshing. I am sick of america's heavy handed approach to foreign affairs under Bush.
If only he coughed up on why he was in a hostile country on a faulse passport with weapons in tow all this would have ended with in an hour he'd been back on a plane, first class by the way with a cheque big enough to buy 72 virgins to the UK.
Who the fuck does care about you? Oh, I bet Osama bin Laden cares about you. Oh wait, he is just using you like a pon to kill Americans and yourself. I guess no one does care about you. They are too nice to this terrorist. It makes me sick.
The terrorists are also the ones who bomb, kill, rape, loot, steal, occupy, torture, kidnap, put children in jail, and think they are entitled to go to other countries, kidnap people and deprive them of their freedom, with complete disregard of any kind of law, morals or humanity.
They have rationalized torture, murder, war, they have a rational answer for everything.
"NO Innocent Muslim life".. huh?, ok dude. But guess what boy genius, it's that type of irrational discourse that fuels the hate of "extremists" Muslims who believe infidel invaders lives are guilty before proven innocent and equally worthless.
Sunni or Shia, Persian, Arab or Turk.. whatever... they have been fighting over that land for 1000s of years and have yet to be pacified. Violent rejection of occupiers is practically part of Muslim DNA, so here's an idea.. lets not be occupiers.
Actually, Persians have not invaded another country in more than 200 years. A much better record than the US'.
"Violent rejection of occupiers" is not only a feature of Muslims. It's called "self-deffense". When a burglar enters your home, threatens or harms your family, and will not leave, what would most people do? I don't think asking "please go away" will do, will it?
The occupiers are the starters of the violence. They killed the loved ones of many who now resist them.
"condemn ALL torture"? If it goes against the USAs value (law) of "cruel and unusual punishment", especially to INNOCENT un-convicted people denied lawyers and fair court trials: you bet I do, its un-American.
Uncivilized 3rd world nations, dictators, despots and crackpots like Saddam torture innocent people, we're supposed to be better.
What makes you think "you", whatever that might mean, are "supposed to be better?" What gives you this higher moral ground?
What exactly are "uncivilized 3rd world nations" to you? In my mind, nations that bomb, murder, torture loot other countries, are, by definition, uncivilized.
Some people believe that "we should be better", based on a wrong annalysis of history. The US has always invaded, bombed, killed and tortured, going back at least 200 years.
Torturing innocent people who are denied a lawyer.. what a great example of "American values" eh? What happened to stuff like innocent until proven guilty, and the virtue where civilized people all agreed cruel and unusual punishment is a bad thing?
Our leader isn't smart enough to be civilized...no wonder we're looking like proto-fascists knuckle daggers too dumb for anything but force, violence and intimidation. Like freak'n chimps. Next the CIA will start chucking feces.
To all other countries out there: the next time you capture the nazi dog U.S of ameriKKKa war criminal prisoners, don't kill them so fast. Torture these rednecks little nazi coward yankee dogs using the most painfull method untill they almost die...revive them then repeat the torture again as many time as you can. Torture them just like they torture this 15yr old kid. These nazi redneck yankee ameriKKKan dogs are not human, next time you capture any one of them, torture them... make them pay.
BruceLeeKickYoAss4 sez: "To all other countries out there: the next time you capture the nazi dog U.S of ameriKKKa war criminal prisoners, don't kill them so fast. Torture these rednecks little nazi coward yankee dogs using the most painfull method untill they almost die..."
If Bruce Lee was alive today and heard you proposing to torture ANY person, he would surely kick your ass.
america economically dominates china, politically we dominate NATO, we have military bases all over the world and we just absolutely dealt with afghanistan and iraq
dominate your hass, and this thing I am telling you all those that think they rule over others ar soon to fall and have a taste of their own poison, and I mean all, I am not religious nor a believer of this or that, what I can see, is people who takes advantage of cults to kill and destroy, and people who abuses the power they were given,and by the looks of it it is chine who's starting to dominate the world, they spread like rats, with they cheap stores,
stop dreaming dude, you don't even have a language of your own, you had to borrow from England hahaha, in France, they speak French, in England English, Portugal, Portuguese, Spain spanish, China, Chinese. etc etc, America...you have no language you have to speak the language of England
Actually America is on a fast track to obscurity. Your economy is dying, China will have a larger military in a matter of years, you did you "deal" with Iraq or Afghanistan, Iraq is only slightly more stable for the time being. Hatred for America is at an all time high in most of the world. Your country is now learning the lessons in imperialism that we in Europe learned a few hundred years ago.
And I am someone who _wants_ America to succeed. If America falls apart, Europe will go with it.
Indeed, the United States seems to be falling on hard times, there is no denying that. Still I think there is potential for America to jump back, we still have the most commanding economy and military in the world and if carefully redeployed, each could become more efficent than ever.
I feel Europe's lessons may have been learned much more recently, World War II was definitely the major turning point.
As for China, I still feel that its popularity is exceeded by that of the United States.
Absolutely, there is still a chance. You're right, for the moment America is still in the strongest position, pretty much on all fronts. But time is rapidly running out. I really hope the coming elections, whether it's Obama or McCain, will put America on a more positive track and make Europe pull it's proverbial head out of its ass. I have a feeling that this will have to be a rude awakening for the American (and European) general populations though.
starcatcher888 sez: "... INFACT Most ALL of Islam is BANNED by LAW in the USA. I would never convict ANYONE killing a Muslim on sight ANYWHERE globally! It is ALL self defense in my book!"
So by your own rule book, all Muslims should feel free to kill YOU on sight, in self defense, before you kill all of them in self defense?
Since you want to kill every Muslim on the planet it would be considerate if you clearly identified yourself to them all so that innocent people can stay away from you.
the "we only have a limited amount of time" tactic is a very common interrogation tactic that is used on weaker-willed prisoners. the interrogator, after establishing some degree of trust, implies urgency on his part (saying "i don't have much time" to the prisoner) but in reality the questioning NEVER ENDS. it becomes extremely aggrivating and stressful. that's all we are weeing here.
all i see is a stressed, uncomfortable young man. the interrogators were extremely professional and courteous and in my opinion coundn't have handled themselves better.
Not sure what the uproar is about. I've seen guys in a hell of a lot worse condition by being in their local jail. The kid is saying he's lost his eyes and his feet; and we're to believe he was tortured because he said so?
Use "the google" for population stats. Apparently there are over 6 million muslims in the USA alone. If you really think they all wish to destroy America, then I suggest you start your purge with Muhammad Ali, Shaquille O'Neal and Mike Tyson.
Are you advocating torture as a humiliation/extermination tool or as a way to get intel?
Soufan had the names of a couple of 9/11 hijackers and knew they were in the US. If the CIA had cooperated and told him where these guys were, he would have stopped 9/11. That would have been good, right?
Or do you advocate storming the beaches of Yemen and indiscriminately killed every man, woman and child. And then what? There are 1.5 billion Muslims, world-wide...
RE: "The US Constitution does not cover Muslims and Islam".
You're just farting through your mouth, star. I'll give you a nickel if you can cite the clause. In fact, I'll still give you another nickel if you can find the words "God" or "Christianity" anywhere in our Constitution.
p.s. When SCOTUS recently upheld habeas corpus for detainees, even Scalia agreed that the constitution applies to non-citizens in the sovereign US. He dissented because he doesn't think Guantanamo qualifies.
During the Vietnam war, North Vietnam should have tortured the matherfacking nazi U.S's captured soldier dogs to near death then dumb their filthy bodies down the shiiiit holes. Releasing those nazi war criminal dog prisoners back to nazi U.S was a big mistake.
Star - not sure which of my points your hyperbole refers to, but you should read about the USS Cole investigation. FBI agent Ali Soufan solved the case in hostile territory using, as you say, tea & pillows. In fact, the intel he got was so good, it led him to the trail of a couple of the 9/11 hijackers, who he had traced to the US. Unfortunately, he was stymied when the CIA wouldn't turn over their files. The Cole part is a great read; the New Yorker's write-up was like a Ludlum novel.
The bastard coward nazi DOGS U.S of ameriKKKa still constantly barking about bulllshiiit "human right and democracy"...I just want to shiit in their mouths every time these neo-nazi dogs open their mouths start barking to other countries.
If this guy killed a soldier yes he deserves to be punished but he should get a trial to determine his guilt that's how it works in the real world. Not this phony Bush no trial guilty till proven guilty with out a trial crap.
star - Imo, torturing others puts our captured troops at greater risk.
Re torture: there's 2 types of detainees, those who know something and those who don't. For the 1st group, torture might get you some intel, but maybe you could have gotten it anyway. For the 2nd group, torture is going to elicit a lot of misinformation that will wind up wasting time, money, and possibly lives. Plus Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib have been huge terrorist recruitment tools and have pushed moderate Muslims away.
Search Iraq war crimes and watch an hour or so of the videos. Ask yourself if we're doing the right thing to the people of Iraq. As a matter of fact search Rape, murder, killing, crimes against children in Iraq. Also checks out veterans against the war hear it from the horse's mouth. If the roles were reversed I'd be an insurgent. If you feel any differently about that you're not a good American. You can't come to my country and tell me what to do and kill who ever you want.
"Want a candy Bar?" "Turn the AC in." wow that is some torture alright.
Deanno6969 are you saying all civilian casualties are the result of the US. So no car bombs from Rival sects have killed any civilians? Its easy to blame America but what a lot of people fail to relize there is a Civil war being wages right now in Iraq. He killed One man there for he should be punished. Or maybe we should just hug him and ask him not to do it again. Of coarse he is crying he got caught and wants to go
God how about the VICTIMS family? They are capturing the US solders, torturing them, and decapitated them. How about that time when he was laughing and mocking the US army, threw grenades, and shot at them in public places. He was acting like a hero. Look at him now look like Zero, he is seeking for mercy, and is exaggerating the whole situation hoping that he would somehow benefit from the interrogation, which is not really an interrogation, but more like an interview.
No I'm not saying we killed all of them. You're on youtube watch some of the videos of what we do and how we act over there. How can you say he did it but we're not doing anything wrong. Search Iraq war crimes and watch an hour or so of the videos then you can comment about my posting. Us soldiers talking about rape, murder and setting innocent people up with ak-47 so they are justified instead of charged for murder. If a us soldier did something wrong they'ld get a trial.
God forbid someone you know is captured by any enemy army from this point forward. The treatment of us soldiers will never be the same again and I'm not just talking about this current illegal war I'm talking about forever. Why would any army ever not kill and torturer all P.O.W.s that's what they think we do.
What about the Geneva convention that we're no recognizing. We've killed over 100,000 innocent Iraq civilians. He allegedly killed one man from an enemy army on Afghan soil. All you haters better remember what comes around goes around.
Starcatcher888 you're an idiot racist I bet you even hate your mom. This is wrong white black or Muslim. Torture (water boarding, eclectic shook, betting's and sleep depravation) we should all be ashamed to be apart of it. If your president was any kind of man would have stopped it not ordered it. I'm an American but not to proud of it when it comes to this. You racist keep saying he has no rights under us law. He's being held and tortured buy us.
I was saying that you should maybe get off your own ass and go jumpstart your own religious war on all Muslims.
You can call it "The Crusade!"
Meanwhile, here in America we'll be sure to honor the Constitution handed down to us by our founding fathers and not throw it away every time somebody pisses their pants in terror.
starcatcher888 sez: "Islam is a crime against ALL humanity and merits total extermination!"
That's what Hitler used to say about Jews but it turned out he was a closeted self-loathing homosexual who brought total ruin to his own nation and ended up putting a bullet in his own head, like a coward.
You should look into it. Because it's a historical fact.
starcatcher888 sez: "... When we are done with them set some examples for the Muslims to remember! Terror for Terror! Next American POW that is murdered set 20 Muslim Clerics on fire and send them down the street with the news as to why! ..."
And when the Iraqis follow your example you'll have succeeded in assuring death for 400 more of our own soldiers.
A horrible, excruciating death for 400 more American troops is your next move in creating democracy in the new The Islamic Republic Of Iraq?
writechic wrote: "To all you hayseeds who grew up thinking a broomstick up the butt was just good parenting, this isn't grandpa's farm in Kentucky. There's a protocol to follow with juvenile prisoners, laws ratified by the U.S., and the Bush administration isn't following them. This is illegal. ..."
This administration doesn't give a rat's ass about any laws or the troops either.
The neocons never want us to leave Iraq cause it's a feeding frenzy of US tax dollars and no-bid contracts.
bildoreilly wrote: "Better idea: Let's start with you and your sadistic pals who think our Constitutional ban on "cruel and unusual punishment" should be discarded."
bildoreilly wrote: "So you think that Iraqi's are covered by the US Const.?"
You're an Iraqi? Then you're not bound by our US Constitution but we still are.
Here in America our Constitution forbids torture but a few Americans are shitting in their pants 24/7 and think torturing people will somehow make them safe. Like on TV.
To all you hayseeds who grew up thinking a broomstick up the butt was just good parenting, this isn't grandpa's farm in Kentucky. There's a protocol to follow with juvenile prisoners, laws ratified by the U.S., and the Bush administration isn't following them. This is illegal. And I noticed CNN didn't play the "Help me" plea when I saw the news today.
I'm sorry that the Canadian government allows its citizens to be tortured by deranged sadists in America's illegal death camps. They should all be prosecuted as war criminals.
Torture does NOT work because people will say anything you want them to say if you torture them long enough. It's the tool used by incompetent and lazy interrogators who think that behaving like animals is patriotic.
The comments on this page sicken me. A 15 year old kid, who hasn't even proven guilty yet, has sat in Gitmo for so many years without contact to his family or anything remotely humane. I'm not going to even speak of torture cause you'll probably call me a pussy too; sleep depravation and injury is no big deal for you big shots. What sickens me though is how all you superior Americans only think of is your tax money instead of human rights. Hope something like this happens to one of your kids.
starcatcher -- Forget for a minute that torture doesn't work (it extracts the answer you're looking for, but not necessarily the truth). Are you really saying since other countries torture, so should we? Aren't we supposed to be the good guys? We can't defeat terrorism by becoming less American. Now is the time to stick to our ideals and principles (and the rule of law, btw). America used to be the world's "shining beacon of Freedom and Justice". I look forward to restoring this.
Its easy to jump on the sucky government bandwagon, but why in the hell was a 16 year old Canadian boy in friggin Afghanistan near people throwing grenades at coalition troops?!?!?!
This shows that deep down inside Muslims are cowards and crybabies. they're good at killing civilians, but when it comes time to face a man they break down. That's why Palestinians cry to the U.N. to protect them when Israelis kick their ass.
Islam is a disease. All over the world Muslims are fighting with their neighbors ie... India, Sudan, Thailand, Israel, Kashmir, Xinjiang in Western China, Phillippines.
Are you retarded? Do some homework pal. There were 6 soldiers in the direct firefight with the kid and another militant, not to mention about 50 other military personnel in the vicinity as a result of a major fight that took place about 15-20 minutes before this smaller confrontation.
Exactly, the matter is simple and didn't need all this fuss, I really couldn't get to understand the point of guantanamo ? what does it add? actualy it opens way for criticizing Civilization and returns us hundreds of years back
Do you really want to go through the Bible and pick out violent acts?? Do you want to hold Christianity to the same standards?? What about the Inqusition, the Crusades, the Witch Hunts... Are you really that stupid?
Jesus wouldn't approve of your hatred and fear-mongering. And he would probably smack you.
If the US which considers itself the mother of democracy does this then what should we expect from other dectator countries, this kind of attitude is not acheiving anything but raising hate between nations instead of acting as one universal nation facing disease hunger enviromental and economical disasters for the sake of coming generations
Anyone called Mohamed or Usama or any arabic name is now looked at as if he is a terrorist.
I think we after all these years of human civilization we should all be more mature in judging our beleifs. After all America has enough civilization maturity to conduct a fair trial for those people, if they are condemt as criminals then they should take what they deserve if they are not then they should be released.
In what sense do civilized people just torture people for years with no trials ??!!!
So you hate Muslims and you hate Canadians. You think we should "shut the Canadian border"? Do you realize that the "border" is about 3,000 miles of mostly forests?
I'm taking a wild guess here, but you probably didn't get very good grades in high school, did you? You need a college degree for most jobs, but every idiot thinks they can run the country.
Well, you can't run the country, but at least you can post a thousand times on YouTube. Take care.
He sounds just like any other criminal behind bars claiming how bad it is or how terrible he is being treated. Of course having your freedom taken away is bad, but then you should have thought about that before doing the crime. Your problem...now live with it.
starcatcher888: I was talking about western countries and I don't call torture what I see here, so you can discuss different aspects of the Koran with yourself.
Wow. I thought we could have an intelligent conversation about this. But you are clearly just an irrational racist. There are lots of good Muslims. And you're an idiot.
So how many wrongs make a right? What makes America better is that we don't do crap like this. Well, we used to be better... this garbage only creates more terrorists.
"America" is not better than anyone... You have always done it, at least for 200 years. Read your history books, read about the invasion of the Philippines in 1898, read about Vietnam, read about Panama.
Read about the only time in history when nuclear weapons were used against defenseless civillians.
Read about the "westward expansion", about the slaughter of native populations, like Iron Maiden say in Run to the hills: "raping the women and wasting the men"...
Well, first of all, that fuck last his eye when he threw a grenade at an American soldier and killed him in 2003. All of his wounds were self-inflicted in the explosion. This little 16yo pussy is crying about being tortured at gitmo? Maybe we need a second opinion but this doesn't look like torture to me. His entire family has a history of relations with Al Quieda and deserves everything that he gets.
There are REAL terrorists out there. There are REAL enemies to America. This kid is a schmuck, and it's costing us millions to keep kids like him in secret prisons and question them. What the hell could he possibly tell us?? Why aren't we going after Bin Laden instead of stupid teens?
Real Terrorists? What in the hell do you think "real" terrorists begin as? Canada seems to think that hes a "real" terrorist, they have refused to take the youngest military detained prisoner held by the US into their own custody. How about you tell the family of Sgt. Christopher Speer that Omar isn't a "real" terrorist
We agree that this kid should be punished. But why are we holding him in Gitmo and questioning him?? Toss his ass back to Canada, or toss his ass in jail (or juvie since he's only 16). But why are we spending so much money and time asking him stupid questions? He's not going to lead us to Bin Laden or other Al Qaeda leaders. He's stuck in the system, and we're paying for it. More of our soldiers are in danger because of stupid decisions like this.
"During his last interrogation, according to the Canadian government report, Khadr is shown a picture of his family. He denied knowing anyone shown, but when left alone with it later, he urinated on the photograph."
At 4 minutes that guy sounds like the president played by Peter Sellers in Dr. Strangelove when he says "I do care care about you."
"Well listen, how do you think I feel about it? Can you imagine how I feel about it, Dmitri? Why do you think I'm calling you? Just to say hello? Of course I like to speak to you! Of course I like to say hello! Not now, but anytime, Dmitri. I'm just calling up to tell you something terrible has happened... It's a friendly call."
This kid is supposed to be a dangerous terrorist?? A teen from Canada, stuck in Gitmo, begging to be killed... this is what my taxes are paying for?? Bush's "War on Terror" is a sham.
How about you do your homework before running your mouth? This "teen" from Canada was recruited by Al Quieda and tossed a grenade at Americans in 2003, killing one soldier. His father, along with other members of his family are known to be affiliated with Al Quieda as well. And the people conducting the interrogation are Canadians too.
I've done my homework... A 15 year old confused and angry kid tossed a grenade at an invading, occupying army. The military has laws for dealing with idiots like him. But instead, he's labelled an "enemy combatant", called a "dangerous terrorist", and has been sitting in Gitmo for years being questioned?? What information are we really going to get out of this kid? Why are people like this stuck in secret prisons where they no access to lawyers and the outside world? How does this help the US??
Easily. If you think Gitmo and interrogation via military personnel in a military tribunal costs a lot of money, well think about the money that is going to be spent on trials. Thanks to the almighty Supreme Court, we now have to arrest, try, & convict these sick punks in American courts. So instead of using our military we're using lawyers and judges, and courthouses. Not to mention the millions of criminals here in the USA already going through the system. Talk about deficit & backlog
No, why should we pay? Send him back to Canada, and let Canadian courts take care of it. They have laws to deal with idiots like him. Why are we treating him like a high-level terrorist leader? We should be improving security, not babysitting stupid kids. Our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan need better support, and Gitmo and all our secret prisons are a waste of taxpayer money. It's simple: Question the high-level terrorist leaders, and send the low-level idiots back to their countries.
Fuck AMERICAN SOLDIERs OF SATAN
mr77sean 6 months ago
Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity.
qurra2 1 year ago
@qurra2 goood wordplay dont give me lip give me head
slovakia6669 4 months ago
If they could read our thoughts each and every person would be a terrorist or at least suspicious enough to be locked up for at least something, Now this is us as normal civilians. Where on earth do these interrogators belong to???
I would be proud to be a terrorist against idiots such as this!???
Do people and actions such as this not actually force people to become terrorists???
Difficult questions to say the least - of 1 thing I'm absolutely sure. This is very very wrong!!!!
2JAMMY 1 year ago
the interrogater are canadian here not amaricans
SETSETCIRCLE 1 year ago
so if hes not a terrorist den what is he sopposed to do
sharckky 1 year ago
they took a canadian that fucking pisses me off
slovakia6669 1 year ago
what a whiny little bitch
junkyjuice21 1 year ago
fuck u america fuck its government fuck fuck who eva suport them and believe they are bringing piece becouse they dont exept killing and torturing ppl
SHEKIBBB 2 years ago 2
Did he get tortured in between or something?
TuskarrWarrior 2 years ago
this is why they will burn america down to the ground stupid country thats why the world hates you thats why we despise you and your government you dont believe in freedom you fucking liars im mad as hell watching this just think what terrorist are feeling when they see this child crying for his mother what did you think would happen when your people are exposed then what you made a war with muslims for oil and now they are going to burn you with it you fucking greedy fucking nation fuck bush
dustyballz33 2 years ago 2
first of all "dustyballz33", we didnt elect bush, his brother overturned a supreme court decision for recount. Second, when you speak as violently as you do, you lose all credibility, and yourself, come off as a "terrorist".
bossudude420 2 years ago
This is just the tip of the iceberg. Children as young as 8 and routinely in their teens were raped in front of their parents. Girls & boys raped in front of their fathers and mothers to induce coercion. Women raped & tortured so badly that many women strapped bomb making materials to their chest to be exploded in populated marketplaces in Iraq at the authorization of CIA. These people need to be locked up!!
Screw the memos we need to see the videos. Memos are what you give a secretary!
TruthBlade12 2 years ago
One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter......while i may not agree with the many forms of radical islam they do have a point in that america is heavy handed when i comes to foreign affairs.. thank goodness Obama is trying to hold out an olive branch and not beating the war drums like Bush.
wb8594 2 years ago
in my opinion America has started wars in too many countries that arent a threat to the US in any shape or form.... there will always be those who want to attack us from almost every country on earth
wb8594 2 years ago 2
I was just saying Christians here in america have a very interesting way of expressing and interpreting how to ask (Christ-like) with the advocation of torture and unneccessary wars, and the taking of innocent lives.
wb8594 2 years ago
whats up with all these christian right wingers saying waterboarding is ok. I dont see Jesus approving for some reason. Do unto others.... love thy neighbor and such ftw
wb8594 2 years ago
interrogation is ok, but torture in any form is very-unamerican and un-christian.
wb8594 2 years ago
Torture is un-Christian? Puhlease.
There were slaves in the Bible.
Innize 2 years ago
I agree, i guess we didnt learn a whole lot from WW2
bossudude420 2 years ago
i may not agree with alot of what Obama is doing but his new approach to foreign policy is refreshing. I am sick of america's heavy handed approach to foreign affairs under Bush.
wb8594 2 years ago
If only he coughed up on why he was in a hostile country on a faulse passport with weapons in tow all this would have ended with in an hour he'd been back on a plane, first class by the way with a cheque big enough to buy 72 virgins to the UK.
DARTHMOBIUS 2 years ago
Who the fuck does care about you? Oh, I bet Osama bin Laden cares about you. Oh wait, he is just using you like a pon to kill Americans and yourself. I guess no one does care about you. They are too nice to this terrorist. It makes me sick.
newyork142536 2 years ago
hahahahah thats funny as shit! ahahahahaha
alfredvidal 3 years ago
dude ! Amerika FTW ./
thelastemperor909 3 years ago
The terrorists are also the ones who bomb, kill, rape, loot, steal, occupy, torture, kidnap, put children in jail, and think they are entitled to go to other countries, kidnap people and deprive them of their freedom, with complete disregard of any kind of law, morals or humanity.
They have rationalized torture, murder, war, they have a rational answer for everything.
They are the leading terrorists.
mateluna 3 years ago
"NO Innocent Muslim life".. huh?, ok dude. But guess what boy genius, it's that type of irrational discourse that fuels the hate of "extremists" Muslims who believe infidel invaders lives are guilty before proven innocent and equally worthless.
Sunni or Shia, Persian, Arab or Turk.. whatever... they have been fighting over that land for 1000s of years and have yet to be pacified. Violent rejection of occupiers is practically part of Muslim DNA, so here's an idea.. lets not be occupiers.
Govtflu 3 years ago
Actually, Persians have not invaded another country in more than 200 years. A much better record than the US'.
"Violent rejection of occupiers" is not only a feature of Muslims. It's called "self-deffense". When a burglar enters your home, threatens or harms your family, and will not leave, what would most people do? I don't think asking "please go away" will do, will it?
The occupiers are the starters of the violence. They killed the loved ones of many who now resist them.
mateluna 3 years ago
"condemn ALL torture"? If it goes against the USAs value (law) of "cruel and unusual punishment", especially to INNOCENT un-convicted people denied lawyers and fair court trials: you bet I do, its un-American.
Uncivilized 3rd world nations, dictators, despots and crackpots like Saddam torture innocent people, we're supposed to be better.
Govtflu 3 years ago 2
What makes you think "you", whatever that might mean, are "supposed to be better?" What gives you this higher moral ground?
What exactly are "uncivilized 3rd world nations" to you? In my mind, nations that bomb, murder, torture loot other countries, are, by definition, uncivilized.
Some people believe that "we should be better", based on a wrong annalysis of history. The US has always invaded, bombed, killed and tortured, going back at least 200 years.
mateluna 3 years ago
Torturing innocent people who are denied a lawyer.. what a great example of "American values" eh? What happened to stuff like innocent until proven guilty, and the virtue where civilized people all agreed cruel and unusual punishment is a bad thing?
Our leader isn't smart enough to be civilized...no wonder we're looking like proto-fascists knuckle daggers too dumb for anything but force, violence and intimidation. Like freak'n chimps. Next the CIA will start chucking feces.
Govtflu 3 years ago 4
To all other countries out there: the next time you capture the nazi dog U.S of ameriKKKa war criminal prisoners, don't kill them so fast. Torture these rednecks little nazi coward yankee dogs using the most painfull method untill they almost die...revive them then repeat the torture again as many time as you can. Torture them just like they torture this 15yr old kid. These nazi redneck yankee ameriKKKan dogs are not human, next time you capture any one of them, torture them... make them pay.
BruceLeeKickYoAss4 3 years ago
BruceLeeKickYoAss4 sez: "To all other countries out there: the next time you capture the nazi dog U.S of ameriKKKa war criminal prisoners, don't kill them so fast. Torture these rednecks little nazi coward yankee dogs using the most painfull method untill they almost die..."
If Bruce Lee was alive today and heard you proposing to torture ANY person, he would surely kick your ass.
bildoreilly 3 years ago
I see two things you could be:
1. a bitter american who hates america (probably some bitchy teenager trying to be unique or some stoner living in his basement)
2. some foreign person who hates america, in which case it doesnt matter because america owns your country lol
Albyiscool 3 years ago
america own nothing you stupid moron, vai mas é pro caralho idiota de merda nojento
haryhanne 3 years ago
america economically dominates china, politically we dominate NATO, we have military bases all over the world and we just absolutely dealt with afghanistan and iraq
Albyiscool 3 years ago
dominate your hass, and this thing I am telling you all those that think they rule over others ar soon to fall and have a taste of their own poison, and I mean all, I am not religious nor a believer of this or that, what I can see, is people who takes advantage of cults to kill and destroy, and people who abuses the power they were given,and by the looks of it it is chine who's starting to dominate the world, they spread like rats, with they cheap stores,
haryhanne 3 years ago
stop dreaming dude, you don't even have a language of your own, you had to borrow from England hahaha, in France, they speak French, in England English, Portugal, Portuguese, Spain spanish, China, Chinese. etc etc, America...you have no language you have to speak the language of England
haryhanne 3 years ago
Actually America is on a fast track to obscurity. Your economy is dying, China will have a larger military in a matter of years, you did you "deal" with Iraq or Afghanistan, Iraq is only slightly more stable for the time being. Hatred for America is at an all time high in most of the world. Your country is now learning the lessons in imperialism that we in Europe learned a few hundred years ago.
And I am someone who _wants_ America to succeed. If America falls apart, Europe will go with it.
megamarsvin 3 years ago
Indeed, the United States seems to be falling on hard times, there is no denying that. Still I think there is potential for America to jump back, we still have the most commanding economy and military in the world and if carefully redeployed, each could become more efficent than ever.
I feel Europe's lessons may have been learned much more recently, World War II was definitely the major turning point.
As for China, I still feel that its popularity is exceeded by that of the United States.
Albyiscool 3 years ago
Absolutely, there is still a chance. You're right, for the moment America is still in the strongest position, pretty much on all fronts. But time is rapidly running out. I really hope the coming elections, whether it's Obama or McCain, will put America on a more positive track and make Europe pull it's proverbial head out of its ass. I have a feeling that this will have to be a rude awakening for the American (and European) general populations though.
And you make a good point about WW2 btw.
megamarsvin 3 years ago
Thank you, and I'm sure we can fix it.
Our country faced a similar crossroads during the 1968 election.
Albyiscool 3 years ago
starcatcher888 sez: "... INFACT Most ALL of Islam is BANNED by LAW in the USA. I would never convict ANYONE killing a Muslim on sight ANYWHERE globally! It is ALL self defense in my book!"
So by your own rule book, all Muslims should feel free to kill YOU on sight, in self defense, before you kill all of them in self defense?
Since you want to kill every Muslim on the planet it would be considerate if you clearly identified yourself to them all so that innocent people can stay away from you.
bildoreilly 3 years ago
the "we only have a limited amount of time" tactic is a very common interrogation tactic that is used on weaker-willed prisoners. the interrogator, after establishing some degree of trust, implies urgency on his part (saying "i don't have much time" to the prisoner) but in reality the questioning NEVER ENDS. it becomes extremely aggrivating and stressful. that's all we are weeing here.
pongftw 3 years ago
all i see is a stressed, uncomfortable young man. the interrogators were extremely professional and courteous and in my opinion coundn't have handled themselves better.
pongftw 3 years ago
JukeBox4Dance sez: "God how about the VICTIMS family? They are capturing the US solders, torturing them, and decapitated them. ..."
bildoreilly wrote: "So you're saying it's wrong to do that sort of thing, or not?"
JukeBox4Dance sez: "What! What! bildoreilly!!!! it's wrong to torture our troops. My US troops or your Al-Quda Terrorist troop?"
We agree that torture is immoral and wrong.
But it's sad you think I'm AlQeada and not American because I oppose torture. Our reputation is bad.
bildoreilly 3 years ago
Not sure what the uproar is about. I've seen guys in a hell of a lot worse condition by being in their local jail. The kid is saying he's lost his eyes and his feet; and we're to believe he was tortured because he said so?
ButterflyDragon9 3 years ago
Use "the google" for population stats. Apparently there are over 6 million muslims in the USA alone. If you really think they all wish to destroy America, then I suggest you start your purge with Muhammad Ali, Shaquille O'Neal and Mike Tyson.
cobwebhead 3 years ago
Are you advocating torture as a humiliation/extermination tool or as a way to get intel?
Soufan had the names of a couple of 9/11 hijackers and knew they were in the US. If the CIA had cooperated and told him where these guys were, he would have stopped 9/11. That would have been good, right?
Or do you advocate storming the beaches of Yemen and indiscriminately killed every man, woman and child. And then what? There are 1.5 billion Muslims, world-wide...
cobwebhead 3 years ago
RE: "The US Constitution does not cover Muslims and Islam".
You're just farting through your mouth, star. I'll give you a nickel if you can cite the clause. In fact, I'll still give you another nickel if you can find the words "God" or "Christianity" anywhere in our Constitution.
p.s. When SCOTUS recently upheld habeas corpus for detainees, even Scalia agreed that the constitution applies to non-citizens in the sovereign US. He dissented because he doesn't think Guantanamo qualifies.
cobwebhead 3 years ago 2
During the Vietnam war, North Vietnam should have tortured the matherfacking nazi U.S's captured soldier dogs to near death then dumb their filthy bodies down the shiiiit holes. Releasing those nazi war criminal dog prisoners back to nazi U.S was a big mistake.
BruceLeeKickYoAss4 3 years ago
Hey boy.....are you comfortable in the U.S.? Glad you could make the trip over here. Bitch.
willbond 3 years ago
Star - not sure which of my points your hyperbole refers to, but you should read about the USS Cole investigation. FBI agent Ali Soufan solved the case in hostile territory using, as you say, tea & pillows. In fact, the intel he got was so good, it led him to the trail of a couple of the 9/11 hijackers, who he had traced to the US. Unfortunately, he was stymied when the CIA wouldn't turn over their files. The Cole part is a great read; the New Yorker's write-up was like a Ludlum novel.
cobwebhead 3 years ago
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The bastard coward nazi DOGS U.S of ameriKKKa still constantly barking about bulllshiiit "human right and democracy"...I just want to shiit in their mouths every time these neo-nazi dogs open their mouths start barking to other countries.
BruceLeeKickYoAss4 3 years ago
If this guy killed a soldier yes he deserves to be punished but he should get a trial to determine his guilt that's how it works in the real world. Not this phony Bush no trial guilty till proven guilty with out a trial crap.
deanno6969 3 years ago
star - Imo, torturing others puts our captured troops at greater risk.
Re torture: there's 2 types of detainees, those who know something and those who don't. For the 1st group, torture might get you some intel, but maybe you could have gotten it anyway. For the 2nd group, torture is going to elicit a lot of misinformation that will wind up wasting time, money, and possibly lives. Plus Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib have been huge terrorist recruitment tools and have pushed moderate Muslims away.
cobwebhead 3 years ago
Search Iraq war crimes and watch an hour or so of the videos. Ask yourself if we're doing the right thing to the people of Iraq. As a matter of fact search Rape, murder, killing, crimes against children in Iraq. Also checks out veterans against the war hear it from the horse's mouth. If the roles were reversed I'd be an insurgent. If you feel any differently about that you're not a good American. You can't come to my country and tell me what to do and kill who ever you want.
deanno6969 3 years ago
"Want a candy Bar?" "Turn the AC in." wow that is some torture alright.
Deanno6969 are you saying all civilian casualties are the result of the US. So no car bombs from Rival sects have killed any civilians? Its easy to blame America but what a lot of people fail to relize there is a Civil war being wages right now in Iraq. He killed One man there for he should be punished. Or maybe we should just hug him and ask him not to do it again. Of coarse he is crying he got caught and wants to go
locsphere 3 years ago
God how about the VICTIMS family? They are capturing the US solders, torturing them, and decapitated them. How about that time when he was laughing and mocking the US army, threw grenades, and shot at them in public places. He was acting like a hero. Look at him now look like Zero, he is seeking for mercy, and is exaggerating the whole situation hoping that he would somehow benefit from the interrogation, which is not really an interrogation, but more like an interview.
JukeBox4Dance 3 years ago
JukeBox4Dance sez: "God how about the VICTIMS family? They are capturing the US solders, torturing them, and decapitated them. ..."
So you're saying it's wrong to do that sort of thing, or not?
bildoreilly 3 years ago
bildoreilly What was this question! do you making any sense!
Tell me, since you are so smart, how do you expect Terrorist to be treated like and of course he did ask for it.
Terrorist are murdering people.
JukeBox4Dance 3 years ago
JukeBox4Dance sez: "God how about the VICTIMS family? They are capturing the US solders, torturing them, and decapitated them. ..."
bildoreilly wrote: "So you're saying it's wrong to do that sort of thing, or not?"
JukeBox4Dance sez: "What was this question! do you making any sense!"
My question is right up there. It's after the part that says "bildoreilly wrote: "
bildoreilly 3 years ago
bildoreilly;
Yukkk, what is it? what are you trying to prove! hey something is wrong with you, you are playing mind games with me.
However I did answer every questions too. do not bother to ask me any more.
Please give me a favor and do not reply back to me. Thanks.
JukeBox4Dance 3 years ago
JukeBox4Dance sez: "God how about the VICTIMS family? They are capturing the US solders, torturing them, and decapitated them. ..."
bildoreilly wrote: "So you're saying it's wrong to do that sort of thing, or not?"
JukeBox4Dance sez: "What was this question! do you making any sense!"
JukeBox4Dance sez: "Please give me a favor and do not reply back to me. Thanks."
OK, I suppose I can do you that one favor. Why not. I just wanted determine whether you thought it's wrong to torture our troops.
bildoreilly 3 years ago
What! What! bildoreilly!!!! it's wrong to torture our troops. My US troops or your Al-Quda Terrorist troop?
Are you okay? What kind of person are you? Your either a twister or you do not understand English at all.
I suggest that go back and re- read my comment, if you still do not understand come back and talk to me.
Stop pretending to be so smart, you are acting totally foolish. There is no delay, go back and read it again and understand it well. okay.
JukeBox4Dance 3 years ago
Hey bildoreilly;
And do not forget my troops are in the US and I am supporting them, I was pointing them out as VICTIMS.
Might Your troop Al-Quda is a terrorist get the facts straight.
JukeBox4Dance 3 years ago
No I'm not saying we killed all of them. You're on youtube watch some of the videos of what we do and how we act over there. How can you say he did it but we're not doing anything wrong. Search Iraq war crimes and watch an hour or so of the videos then you can comment about my posting. Us soldiers talking about rape, murder and setting innocent people up with ak-47 so they are justified instead of charged for murder. If a us soldier did something wrong they'ld get a trial.
deanno6969 3 years ago
God forbid someone you know is captured by any enemy army from this point forward. The treatment of us soldiers will never be the same again and I'm not just talking about this current illegal war I'm talking about forever. Why would any army ever not kill and torturer all P.O.W.s that's what they think we do.
deanno6969 3 years ago
What about the Geneva convention that we're no recognizing. We've killed over 100,000 innocent Iraq civilians. He allegedly killed one man from an enemy army on Afghan soil. All you haters better remember what comes around goes around.
deanno6969 3 years ago
Starcatcher888 you're an idiot racist I bet you even hate your mom. This is wrong white black or Muslim. Torture (water boarding, eclectic shook, betting's and sleep depravation) we should all be ashamed to be apart of it. If your president was any kind of man would have stopped it not ordered it. I'm an American but not to proud of it when it comes to this. You racist keep saying he has no rights under us law. He's being held and tortured buy us.
deanno6969 3 years ago
starcatcher888 sez: " ... What were you saying"
I was saying that you should maybe get off your own ass and go jumpstart your own religious war on all Muslims.
You can call it "The Crusade!"
Meanwhile, here in America we'll be sure to honor the Constitution handed down to us by our founding fathers and not throw it away every time somebody pisses their pants in terror.
bildoreilly 3 years ago
starcatcher888 sez: "Islam is a crime against ALL humanity and merits total extermination!"
That's what Hitler used to say about Jews but it turned out he was a closeted self-loathing homosexual who brought total ruin to his own nation and ended up putting a bullet in his own head, like a coward.
You should look into it. Because it's a historical fact.
bildoreilly 3 years ago
starcatcher888 sez: "... When we are done with them set some examples for the Muslims to remember! Terror for Terror! Next American POW that is murdered set 20 Muslim Clerics on fire and send them down the street with the news as to why! ..."
And when the Iraqis follow your example you'll have succeeded in assuring death for 400 more of our own soldiers.
A horrible, excruciating death for 400 more American troops is your next move in creating democracy in the new The Islamic Republic Of Iraq?
bildoreilly 3 years ago
writechic wrote: "To all you hayseeds who grew up thinking a broomstick up the butt was just good parenting, this isn't grandpa's farm in Kentucky. There's a protocol to follow with juvenile prisoners, laws ratified by the U.S., and the Bush administration isn't following them. This is illegal. ..."
This administration doesn't give a rat's ass about any laws or the troops either.
The neocons never want us to leave Iraq cause it's a feeding frenzy of US tax dollars and no-bid contracts.
bildoreilly 3 years ago
why is the news reporting he is saying "help me" he is clearing saying "kill me".
highly disturbing video.
nathang82 3 years ago
starcatcher888 sez: "Now why dont you get your whining liberal ass over to Iraq and tell them not to butcher, torture and murder AMERICAN POWS!?"
But according to you, it's OK to torture POWS.
bildoreilly 3 years ago
bildoreilly wrote: "Better idea: Let's start with you and your sadistic pals who think our Constitutional ban on "cruel and unusual punishment" should be discarded."
bildoreilly wrote: "So you think that Iraqi's are covered by the US Const.?"
You're an Iraqi? Then you're not bound by our US Constitution but we still are.
Here in America our Constitution forbids torture but a few Americans are shitting in their pants 24/7 and think torturing people will somehow make them safe. Like on TV.
bildoreilly 3 years ago
To all you hayseeds who grew up thinking a broomstick up the butt was just good parenting, this isn't grandpa's farm in Kentucky. There's a protocol to follow with juvenile prisoners, laws ratified by the U.S., and the Bush administration isn't following them. This is illegal. And I noticed CNN didn't play the "Help me" plea when I saw the news today.
writechic 3 years ago 3
starcatcher888 sez: "What is not torture in your book? Not letting them order out for Pizza and you paying for it?"
bildoreilly wrote: "Anybody who approves of torture should be tortured. LOL"
starcatcher888 sez: "Excellent: Then Have Muslims Condemn all torture (Including their Mohammed) or face torture!"
Better idea: Let's start with you and your sadistic pals who think our Constitutional ban on "cruel and unusual punishment" should be discarded.
Let other countries deal with their own.
bildoreilly 3 years ago
starcatcher888 sez: "What is not torture in your book? Not letting them order out for Pizza and you paying for it?"
Anybody who approves of torture should be tortured. LOL
bildoreilly 3 years ago
I'm sorry that the Canadian government allows its citizens to be tortured by deranged sadists in America's illegal death camps. They should all be prosecuted as war criminals.
trebby2 3 years ago
Torture does NOT work because people will say anything you want them to say if you torture them long enough. It's the tool used by incompetent and lazy interrogators who think that behaving like animals is patriotic.
trebby2 3 years ago 3
The comments on this page sicken me. A 15 year old kid, who hasn't even proven guilty yet, has sat in Gitmo for so many years without contact to his family or anything remotely humane. I'm not going to even speak of torture cause you'll probably call me a pussy too; sleep depravation and injury is no big deal for you big shots. What sickens me though is how all you superior Americans only think of is your tax money instead of human rights. Hope something like this happens to one of your kids.
lacountess 3 years ago
starcatcher -- Forget for a minute that torture doesn't work (it extracts the answer you're looking for, but not necessarily the truth). Are you really saying since other countries torture, so should we? Aren't we supposed to be the good guys? We can't defeat terrorism by becoming less American. Now is the time to stick to our ideals and principles (and the rule of law, btw). America used to be the world's "shining beacon of Freedom and Justice". I look forward to restoring this.
cobwebhead 3 years ago 3
So we're supposed to give him Ice Cream and send him home to his Mommy? He was old enough to kill for Al Qaeda.
willbond 3 years ago
Its easy to jump on the sucky government bandwagon, but why in the hell was a 16 year old Canadian boy in friggin Afghanistan near people throwing grenades at coalition troops?!?!?!
DntBrnDPig 3 years ago
Yeah too bad that the only person that saw him do it was an Afghan policeman who accused him of the act after the fact.
lamouchemorte 3 years ago
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This shows that deep down inside Muslims are cowards and crybabies. they're good at killing civilians, but when it comes time to face a man they break down. That's why Palestinians cry to the U.N. to protect them when Israelis kick their ass.
Islam is a disease. All over the world Muslims are fighting with their neighbors ie... India, Sudan, Thailand, Israel, Kashmir, Xinjiang in Western China, Phillippines.
Free the world. Down with Islam! Fuck the Quran!
BaruchGoldsteinHero 3 years ago
Are you retarded? Do some homework pal. There were 6 soldiers in the direct firefight with the kid and another militant, not to mention about 50 other military personnel in the vicinity as a result of a major fight that took place about 15-20 minutes before this smaller confrontation.
Zicarias 3 years ago
Al Quieda
Zicarias 3 years ago
Exactly, the matter is simple and didn't need all this fuss, I really couldn't get to understand the point of guantanamo ? what does it add? actualy it opens way for criticizing Civilization and returns us hundreds of years back
EgyptianSaracin 3 years ago 2
Do you really want to go through the Bible and pick out violent acts?? Do you want to hold Christianity to the same standards?? What about the Inqusition, the Crusades, the Witch Hunts... Are you really that stupid?
Jesus wouldn't approve of your hatred and fear-mongering. And he would probably smack you.
barindersharma 3 years ago 2
If the US which considers itself the mother of democracy does this then what should we expect from other dectator countries, this kind of attitude is not acheiving anything but raising hate between nations instead of acting as one universal nation facing disease hunger enviromental and economical disasters for the sake of coming generations
God bless our souls
EgyptianSaracin 3 years ago
Anyone called Mohamed or Usama or any arabic name is now looked at as if he is a terrorist.
I think we after all these years of human civilization we should all be more mature in judging our beleifs. After all America has enough civilization maturity to conduct a fair trial for those people, if they are condemt as criminals then they should take what they deserve if they are not then they should be released.
In what sense do civilized people just torture people for years with no trials ??!!!
EgyptianSaracin 3 years ago
Starcatcher:
So you hate Muslims and you hate Canadians. You think we should "shut the Canadian border"? Do you realize that the "border" is about 3,000 miles of mostly forests?
I'm taking a wild guess here, but you probably didn't get very good grades in high school, did you? You need a college degree for most jobs, but every idiot thinks they can run the country.
Well, you can't run the country, but at least you can post a thousand times on YouTube. Take care.
barindersharma 3 years ago
Definition of terrrorism. anyone know?
If we assume that his young kid really killed American Soldiers on Afghanistany soil, does this make him a terrorist?
Or if he killed civilians he is a terrorist?
Civilians killed in Afghanistan by American troops,Iraq occupied for nothing, does this make Americans terrorists?
After all these years of (the so called) war on terrorism, no one placed one clear definition for terrorism were all or most nations agree.
EgyptianSaracin 3 years ago
He sounds just like any other criminal behind bars claiming how bad it is or how terrible he is being treated. Of course having your freedom taken away is bad, but then you should have thought about that before doing the crime. Your problem...now live with it.
dahoss65 3 years ago
starcatcher888: I was talking about western countries and I don't call torture what I see here, so you can discuss different aspects of the Koran with yourself.
foodope 3 years ago
Now the ones who want people to fear them are the fearful. Justice at last
fsasking11 3 years ago
Hell Ya!!!!!
fsasking11 3 years ago
Starcatcher:
Wow. I thought we could have an intelligent conversation about this. But you are clearly just an irrational racist. There are lots of good Muslims. And you're an idiot.
barindersharma 3 years ago
So how many wrongs make a right? What makes America better is that we don't do crap like this. Well, we used to be better... this garbage only creates more terrorists.
barindersharma 3 years ago
"America" is not better than anyone... You have always done it, at least for 200 years. Read your history books, read about the invasion of the Philippines in 1898, read about Vietnam, read about Panama.
Read about the only time in history when nuclear weapons were used against defenseless civillians.
Read about the "westward expansion", about the slaughter of native populations, like Iron Maiden say in Run to the hills: "raping the women and wasting the men"...
It's all there!!!
mateluna 3 years ago
Well, first of all, that fuck last his eye when he threw a grenade at an American soldier and killed him in 2003. All of his wounds were self-inflicted in the explosion. This little 16yo pussy is crying about being tortured at gitmo? Maybe we need a second opinion but this doesn't look like torture to me. His entire family has a history of relations with Al Quieda and deserves everything that he gets.
Zicarias 3 years ago
There are REAL terrorists out there. There are REAL enemies to America. This kid is a schmuck, and it's costing us millions to keep kids like him in secret prisons and question them. What the hell could he possibly tell us?? Why aren't we going after Bin Laden instead of stupid teens?
barindersharma 3 years ago 3
Real Terrorists? What in the hell do you think "real" terrorists begin as? Canada seems to think that hes a "real" terrorist, they have refused to take the youngest military detained prisoner held by the US into their own custody. How about you tell the family of Sgt. Christopher Speer that Omar isn't a "real" terrorist
Zicarias 3 years ago
We agree that this kid should be punished. But why are we holding him in Gitmo and questioning him?? Toss his ass back to Canada, or toss his ass in jail (or juvie since he's only 16). But why are we spending so much money and time asking him stupid questions? He's not going to lead us to Bin Laden or other Al Qaeda leaders. He's stuck in the system, and we're paying for it. More of our soldiers are in danger because of stupid decisions like this.
barindersharma 3 years ago 2
"During his last interrogation, according to the Canadian government report, Khadr is shown a picture of his family. He denied knowing anyone shown, but when left alone with it later, he urinated on the photograph."
asdffd 3 years ago
At 4 minutes that guy sounds like the president played by Peter Sellers in Dr. Strangelove when he says "I do care care about you."
"Well listen, how do you think I feel about it? Can you imagine how I feel about it, Dmitri? Why do you think I'm calling you? Just to say hello? Of course I like to speak to you! Of course I like to say hello! Not now, but anytime, Dmitri. I'm just calling up to tell you something terrible has happened... It's a friendly call."
asdffd 3 years ago
This kid is supposed to be a dangerous terrorist?? A teen from Canada, stuck in Gitmo, begging to be killed... this is what my taxes are paying for?? Bush's "War on Terror" is a sham.
barindersharma 3 years ago 3
How about you do your homework before running your mouth? This "teen" from Canada was recruited by Al Quieda and tossed a grenade at Americans in 2003, killing one soldier. His father, along with other members of his family are known to be affiliated with Al Quieda as well. And the people conducting the interrogation are Canadians too.
Zicarias 3 years ago
I've done my homework... A 15 year old confused and angry kid tossed a grenade at an invading, occupying army. The military has laws for dealing with idiots like him. But instead, he's labelled an "enemy combatant", called a "dangerous terrorist", and has been sitting in Gitmo for years being questioned?? What information are we really going to get out of this kid? Why are people like this stuck in secret prisons where they no access to lawyers and the outside world? How does this help the US??
barindersharma 3 years ago
Easily. If you think Gitmo and interrogation via military personnel in a military tribunal costs a lot of money, well think about the money that is going to be spent on trials. Thanks to the almighty Supreme Court, we now have to arrest, try, & convict these sick punks in American courts. So instead of using our military we're using lawyers and judges, and courthouses. Not to mention the millions of criminals here in the USA already going through the system. Talk about deficit & backlog
Zicarias 3 years ago
No, why should we pay? Send him back to Canada, and let Canadian courts take care of it. They have laws to deal with idiots like him. Why are we treating him like a high-level terrorist leader? We should be improving security, not babysitting stupid kids. Our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan need better support, and Gitmo and all our secret prisons are a waste of taxpayer money. It's simple: Question the high-level terrorist leaders, and send the low-level idiots back to their countries.
barindersharma 3 years ago
That guy supplied a lot of good information. Not! What a waste of tax dollars to have operations such as these.
Sometimes I think the West is just as bad as the terrorists. I hope the next president bans torture and restores America's honor.
forwardthinker82 3 years ago
AFAIK the only western country going around and torturing people is the US.
foodope 3 years ago