I agree , you learn it to a point where you have it under your fingers and then make yourself start to apply it. Point is though it takes a little bit to make it sound good where it becomes a part of how you play. If you resolve to chord tones it'll turn out alright. FOr me, the learning curve throughout my playing career has been diatonic scales and chords>learning solos>intervals and arpeggios>adding new scales like the melodic minor and diminished and repeat .
I'd say even at practicing an hour a day, look forward to a couple of years practicing to be able to begin feeling somewhat comfortable adding diminished lines and melodic minor to your pentatonic licks. Once you do though, wow, the doors that opens up. Good lesson, thanks.
@cm0220ster yeah that's true, but i like to think of it more like when you play gigs you try out a line.. and the next gig go a little futher, and so on, cause by actually having to "sound good" on a gig you learn much faster! :) or my point is that it sounds so dull that you havet to practise 2 years before you can use it or whatveer :) :D
what are the notes of this scale? is it an "arpeggio" or a real scale? give me the notes you would play on a G pentatonic please...to mix with a G pentatonic...
on a 12 bar blues in G the scale would be a G diminished Half step - Whole step, so: G Ab Bb B C# D E F (G) . it is an eight note scale, not an arpeggio.
@playgtrcouk For the most part, you always land on a note from the diatonic scale or arpeggio right? I mean, you never land on the Ab Bb or C# on any of the four beats in the measure?
@playgtrcouk Excuse me,but so you play a G blues scale with Ab(the second minor).So there is harmonic minor's sound?Sorry for the english,i'm italian.Ah you are great player.Is a Mix of scales?
@TheBlooderich no, it's not the harmonic minor scale, It's one of the diminished scales. You can see transcription in the 'advanced pentatonic stuff Pt2 - transcription' on my channel. Thank you for your comment!
Thank you SO MUCH!!! As soon as I can play the pentatonic scale from the open E to the 22nd fret of my strat without having to think about where my fingers are, I'm definitely gonna learn this diminished stuff. (I'm really bad with terms and explaining theory but somehow I can still play it) lol. Thanks, this vid is a total gem!
basically you alternate diminished scale, blues scale, major minor pentatonics, but where's the mix?! a common way to alterate the chord, for ex. the dominant with pentatonics, is to use a minor pentatonic half step up the root of chord, that sound similar the altered scale...
it's not easier say to learn the two diminished forms in all position and explain how to use diminished substitution...?
I am not totally sure if I understand what you are trying to say...the mix is in consistent 'phrasing', in creating good musical ideas with the material you have. Hope this is of any help...thank you for watching, and for your comment.
yes, that is one of the ways to look at it harmonically, but here I just wanted to focus on the practical side and what tensions/colors they would add to a basic blues. Thank you for your observation and thanks for watching!
well I guess you're right, its good as a starter expansion for players to get to know.
matter of fact, your video inspired me to go figure what exactly is going on in some scott phrases i've been playing lately, thanks for that and keep on rocking(or bluesing or fusioning whatever :P)
this is all covered in Robben's Blues and Beyond.
beeeastmaster 1 month ago
@beeeastmaster and many other jazz books before his!! I never said I invented anything :) thank you for your comment
playgtrcouk 1 month ago
too bad the backing track is too loud.
TimothyinToronto 5 months ago
I agree , you learn it to a point where you have it under your fingers and then make yourself start to apply it. Point is though it takes a little bit to make it sound good where it becomes a part of how you play. If you resolve to chord tones it'll turn out alright. FOr me, the learning curve throughout my playing career has been diatonic scales and chords>learning solos>intervals and arpeggios>adding new scales like the melodic minor and diminished and repeat .
cm0220ster 1 year ago
don`t forget Jimmy Herring diminished approach also Scofield does that over blues.
OlegVoronin 1 year ago
I'd say even at practicing an hour a day, look forward to a couple of years practicing to be able to begin feeling somewhat comfortable adding diminished lines and melodic minor to your pentatonic licks. Once you do though, wow, the doors that opens up. Good lesson, thanks.
cm0220ster 1 year ago
@cm0220ster yeah that's true, but i like to think of it more like when you play gigs you try out a line.. and the next gig go a little futher, and so on, cause by actually having to "sound good" on a gig you learn much faster! :) or my point is that it sounds so dull that you havet to practise 2 years before you can use it or whatveer :) :D
abcdasddsadcba 1 year ago
Great
eikels 2 years ago
what are the notes of this scale? is it an "arpeggio" or a real scale? give me the notes you would play on a G pentatonic please...to mix with a G pentatonic...
danlovesnan 2 years ago
on a 12 bar blues in G the scale would be a G diminished Half step - Whole step, so: G Ab Bb B C# D E F (G) . it is an eight note scale, not an arpeggio.
playgtrcouk 2 years ago
@playgtrcouk For the most part, you always land on a note from the diatonic scale or arpeggio right? I mean, you never land on the Ab Bb or C# on any of the four beats in the measure?
Noodleztherabbit 1 year ago
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TheBlooderich 6 months ago
@playgtrcouk Excuse me,but so you play a G blues scale with Ab(the second minor).So there is harmonic minor's sound?Sorry for the english,i'm italian.Ah you are great player.Is a Mix of scales?
TheBlooderich 6 months ago
@TheBlooderich no, it's not the harmonic minor scale, It's one of the diminished scales. You can see transcription in the 'advanced pentatonic stuff Pt2 - transcription' on my channel. Thank you for your comment!
playgtrcouk 5 months ago
Any chance of getting a "Part 2" on this same stuff? Love the application of altered dom to pentatonic to blues.
joelg125 2 years ago
I am working on it...it will have the transcription of the solo at the end of this video.
playgtrcouk 2 years ago
Thank you SO MUCH!!! As soon as I can play the pentatonic scale from the open E to the 22nd fret of my strat without having to think about where my fingers are, I'm definitely gonna learn this diminished stuff. (I'm really bad with terms and explaining theory but somehow I can still play it) lol. Thanks, this vid is a total gem!
c32linder 2 years ago
oh thanks, great lesson, finally I know how to take my blues phrasing to the next level :)
texbls 3 years ago
Hi
Can one play the half-whole dim over other than the tonic chord?
jakob0 3 years ago
In theory you can, but I would make sure it does sound musical, and not too mechanical or out of context.
playgtrcouk 3 years ago
This was helpful. Thanks! Your tone's quiet nice as well. That gleaming PRS looks fab.
AmritsarAnarchist 3 years ago 4
Thanks for watching! Believe it or not, I got that PRS quite cheap at a close down sale in Miami...great guitar, indeed.
playgtrcouk 3 years ago
basically you alternate diminished scale, blues scale, major minor pentatonics, but where's the mix?! a common way to alterate the chord, for ex. the dominant with pentatonics, is to use a minor pentatonic half step up the root of chord, that sound similar the altered scale...
it's not easier say to learn the two diminished forms in all position and explain how to use diminished substitution...?
FrancescoBonfanti77 3 years ago
I am not totally sure if I understand what you are trying to say...the mix is in consistent 'phrasing', in creating good musical ideas with the material you have. Hope this is of any help...thank you for watching, and for your comment.
playgtrcouk 3 years ago
WOW what a mighty lesson its gonna take me a while to wrap my head around this type of phrasing!!
Feesharp9er 3 years ago
Thanks for the lesson, I put up a quick video response playing around with this, very useful!
dharma4life 3 years ago
this is good for someone who knew that diminished C# is a chord replacement beforehand. what about those who doesent
kulamdaparim 3 years ago
yes, that is one of the ways to look at it harmonically, but here I just wanted to focus on the practical side and what tensions/colors they would add to a basic blues. Thank you for your observation and thanks for watching!
playgtrcouk 3 years ago
well I guess you're right, its good as a starter expansion for players to get to know.
matter of fact, your video inspired me to go figure what exactly is going on in some scott phrases i've been playing lately, thanks for that and keep on rocking(or bluesing or fusioning whatever :P)
kulamdaparim 3 years ago