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  • Many Christian's who think of America as founded upon Christianity usually present the Declaration of Independence as "proof" of a Christian America. The reason appears obvious: the Declaration mentions God. (You may notice that some Christians avoid the Constitution, with its absence of God.) However, the Declaration of Independence does not represent any law of the United States. It came before the establishment of our lawful government (the Constitution).

  • Yes, most of our founding fathers practiced Christianity too, but they also respected the rights of other religionists, and also held to deism and Freemasonry tenets rather than to Christianity. The United States Constitution serves as the law of the land for America and indicates the intent of our Founding Fathers. The Constitution forms a secular document, and nowhere does it appeal to God, Christianity, Jesus, or any supreme being.

  • First of all, the U.S. is NOT founded upon Christianity, and it is NOT a Christian nation. You have to open your eyes. Let me put you straight.

  • Answer Vanillasm's question, don't just fricking ignore it

  • When your kid says why are there two men kissing? You say because they are happy- They finally have been accepted and loved by our country. When your child says daddy why does my friend have 2 mommies? You say because son, he has two mommies that love him. You have a mommy and a daddy, it might be different but you both have 2 parents that love you very much. If you don't what will you say when your child says: daddy why do people want to kill me for being gay? What will you say then?

  • I am not against gays...I am against SIN...

  • @iamredyforhim "Sin" doesn't exist.

  • I have nothing against gays. I am a hetero and my gay friends has proven to me that they can be very good people. The whole accepting gays, however, is an issue. Just because i dont have a prob with gay individuals doesnt mean the person next to me does not. Because heteros dont accept gays doesnt mean that they are ignorant, no....the dont HAVE to accept the gay community if they dont want to.

  • what do you mean?

  • NO ONE can say "God made me this way" regardless of you being gay or an alcoholic. God did not make you or me, nor anyone else with anytype of evil whatsoever!

    It would be aweful IF we had a God that would purposly create us to be born with evil.

    Genetics have proven that alcoholism runs in families BUT God did not make me an alcoholic, even though I loved being drunk. Did my father effect me biologically? Don't know BUT I still chose to drink. God delivered me AND HE WILL DO THE SAME FOR YOU

  • "God did not make you or me, nor anyone else with anytype of evil whatsoever!"

    You are already wrong...

  • @ktoddweaver You obviously have never read the Bible in your whole entire life.

  • DOnt you have better things to do with your time than to be persecuting innocent people? Let God take care of Gay people...He's quite capable of doing it on His own without your help.

    HE IS GOD AFTER ALL !!!

    Why don't you devote your time to helping those suffering with cancer or the poor? Would be more constructive !

  • @Tiffanynicolina "He's quite capable of doing it on His own without your help."

    Yes, for we ALL know that God has been a BIG part of this world and has helped us out -so- much...

    Praise Him!

  • God never said "gay is wrong" and nor did Jesus. therefore u have already failed!

  • ARE YOU KIDDING? It's an abomination to God! He clearly states so in His Word, that men with men and woman with woman is wrong PLUS: -Sexual Immorality (covers it all) -Aldulters -Fornicatiors -Sodomites -Beastology The list goes on...even to: -Drunkards -Theifs -Idolitry -Selfish ambitions -Envy -Murder's And the list goes on in the NEW TESTAMENT. It's not JUST ONE particular sin, God hates all sin. And it is very clear that those who continue to habitually practice these is wrong
  • ... that doesnt mean that God said it was wrong...

  • "which I also have told you in time past, that those who PRACTICE such things will not inherit the kingdom of God" - Gal 5:16-22

    That is just one place, there are other direct scriptures, but I won't do it for argument sake.

  • PRACTICE? homosexuality isnt JUST about the practice... it is everything else BUT the practice. do you mean the sex alone? or do u mean as a loving bonding long term relationship becus the same heart felt love a man can feel for a woman is EXACTLY the same as two individuals of the same sex! no different! they dont choose to be this way! so y do u hate them so much. it really disgusts me. Jesus wouldnt have been happy plus the bible, the TRUE bible, doesnt codemn homosexuality.

  • The bible does SO condemn homosexuality a n d any and all other abnormal kinds of sex - your statements sound defensive and those who defend, defend guilt .. whenever you stand before Jesus after your last hour on earth has rung, trust me ! he will in no uncertain terms MAKE YOU KNOW his "feelings" speak conviction on homosexuality and rebuttal is not an option, get over it ! As many ways you want to slice this, it is STILL BALONEY and baloney it is .... alright ? ENOUGH ALREADY !

  • lol... homosexuality isnt condemned in the bible.... u arent making any good points.

  • @contracheck2 Isn`t Killing someone a Sin when i last checked it?Kill someone just for being gay?(i amhetero)Sorry but that is evil!

  • 1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders

  • "lol" ???? Feeble mind is amused. eh ?

  • I am not "making any good points" by quoting what the word of God says on homosexuality ? and you do ?

  • @sadguyfoundout1 But that prevents the Birth of a Child though.Gay people can`t make kids!

  • The fact his kids saw two guys kissing and celebrating their marriage makes it less likely that his kids will grow up as hateful homophobes. I bet he'd kiss his wife in public & consider that "his right". Sad people can't think for themselves. This guy reminds me of Muslim fundamentalists who kill innocent people while screaming "God is Great!"

  • I SAID IT PERFECTLY CLEAR IN THE VIDEO..I AM NOT RACIST, OR A BIGOT TOWARD ANY GROUP, WHATSOEVER..

    NOR AM I NOT POINTING FINGERS OR JUDGING HOMOSEXUALS AT ALL! ONLY GOD CAN DO THAT.

    THE POINT OF THIS VIDEO IS TO SHOW OUR NATION IS TURNING AWAY FROM GOD, DEVOURING OUR CHRISTIAN MORALS AND VALUES, WHICH THIS NATION WAS FOUNDED UPON BY OUR ANCESTORS AND FORFATHERS!

    The true Christian morals and values were and still are good. So good the United States used to live by them at one time...

  • individuals turn from god, not entire nations.our country was designed to be a secular constitutional republic,NOT A THEOCRACY. morals and values are from within,not from without. they can't be legislated into law.ever heard of free will??!

  • NOR A DEMOCRACY!!!!!

  • @Choice4Christ

    yes the United States was founded on christian morals and beliefs, ya like 200 years ago. are you saying we shouldnt have moved foward as a society?

    this country was also founded on slavery and surppressing women.

  • @Choice4Christ ...Let God take care of it, he really doesnt need our help in "showing our nation" anything. If hes God, hes very capable of doing it himself. As Christians, lets not forget that our "Christian Morals and Values" are not so Christian when we point fingers at those who are different. Also, lets not forget this is NOT a Christian nation. We are a melting pot of MANY religions and cultures and ALL should be respected equally

  • God loves you and he loves me.

    God created homosexuals. God Loves homosexuals . God does NOT make mistakes.

    Tell your 6 year old child two men are kissing because God created homosexuals in the world. Tell your 6 year old child God loves homosexuals because He created them. It's very easy !

    Praise Jesus...Praise His Holy Name.

  • @Tiffanynicolina "God does NOT make mistakes."

    LOL, yes. It's clear that he doesn't make mistakes, because if he does, something might happen, like the whole world being covered under water, killing every single living thing on this planet.

    Oh, wait....

  • I believe it is Romans chapter 1 in the bible.

  • The continual habitual ongoing practice of homosexuality is what God says is wrong. It is no greater than being a drunkard..or a their...God says that it is wrong to contually habitually practice being drunk, is wrong..

    The God of the Christian values are being stripped away right before your eyes, and so many people are blind to the fact, because they would rather please man, rather than please God!

    God does not want anyone to perish but have everlasting life. He will help anyone who asks!

  • ever read how the grinch stole christmas. then i suggest do it. you might learn more from dr zeuss then from king james

  • @Choice4Christ "what God says is wrong."

    So how many non-believers have you killed, lately?

  • @Choice4Christ ..Homosexuality is just fine so relax ! God ccreated gay people for a reason and you are not to say such bigoted things. NOW BEHAVE YOURSELF and start making videos that will help the world not condemn poor people who are different and already have a difficult life because people like you persecute them. Not go about your business and contribute to worthwhile causes not being cruel to gays. Have a good day!

  • Thank you for letting me know. I'll tell my husband that we have to sell our 120k doublewide and get divorced. We will turn our entire lives upside down and live alone the rest of our lives, unhappy, and pitiful because the bible says so.Again thanks for clearing that up because we really do care what the bible says about our family.

  • Make no mistake here

    It is very clear that President Obama not only PROMOTES homosexuality but has gone to the extreme of giving one specific group more rights than any other group IN HISTORY and now Obama would like to ease us into adapting to homosexuality as if it were a alternative lifestyle or something

    Your right about the bible and the God of Christianity tells us that the continual habitual practice of homosexuality is wrong God is very clear This is no different than being a drunkard

  • Make no mistake, the homosexual community has labeled Christians as the enemy.You will never accept us and you will always block our right to marry therefore we WILL destroy your religion. You can absolutely count on it. The ones at the highest offices of our government are for us and AGAINST the church.Mathew Shepard act is only the beginning.The days of little meak faggot are over, we also can take up arms, make no mistake about it. The leader of the strongest military on Earth is for us!

  • I don't care who you go to, or how HIGH your govermental support is, or WHO is in office..because

    NO ONE IS HIGHER THAN THE TRUE and LIVING GOD - JESUS CHRIST!

    Besides your missing the whole point of this video because you must feel condemned or something..

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  • being gay simply is. you can deny,refute,smother etc. but it still comes down to bible-thumpers denying reality,and hiding behind bibles to justify ignorance about simple human biology. and denying that they are a part of nature as opposed to being apart from nature

  • Yeah, isn't funny how alcoholism has been PROVEN to run genetically in familys....but what about a man with a man, and a woman with a woman, possible 'gay genetics genes'...no

    There is NO PROOF no matter how hard scientist try, not one single person can say God made me this way. God made you in His image did He not? Do you think God is gay, a theif, drunkard? It's what you first choose to do, and pretty soon what you chose to do becomes what you do and who you are...

  • that is the intellectually easy and lazy answer. god this and god that. don't you folks ever get tired of hiding your bigotry under gods skirts. and don't you folks ever wonder how god REALLY feels about bigots who hide under his skirts. and the alcoholic comment was just typical of the bigoted man who looks with disgust at the fact that men can love men and women can love women, not them. and it challenges set patterns of conformity.conformity that benefitted straight men only

  • You know, God said He would send out a strong delusion in these days, for those who choose to accept the lie, and that man will worship creation instead of the Creator, and

    giving up their natural use for un-natrual use, and having no remorse And man will have a form of godleness, but its power is denied, man will be lovers of pleasure, rather than lovers of God.

    God is very patient, but Be carefull what you say, and choose, because eventually God may give you over to a debased mind...

  • ROMANS Chapter 1

  • @Choice4Christ "President Obama not only PROMOTES homosexuality but has gone to the extreme of giving one specific group more rights than any other group"

    GOOD! Homosexuals deserve those rights!

    "Obama would like to ease us into adapting to homosexuality as if it were a alternative lifestyle or something"

    Homosexuality is being more and more accepted -every day-. Get over it. There will be a time in life where no one will think twice about two guys kissing on the street.

  • @Choice4Christ

    How is one's love for another like that of being a drunkard?? There are many Christ centred gay relationships.

    The Bible does not condemn homosexuality. Read it within the context and read the greek. It does not anywhere condemn loving relationships between people of the same sex.

  • Yes, if you really wanted to get out of that lifestyle and do what is pleasing to God. Think about it, if you say "God made me this way" that would be outright evil, and it is impossible for God have any sort of evil. Although we ALL are in the same boat..which is being born into this sinful nature and world. However God is so full of love that if you really truely wanted be attracted to the oppositte sex, He will do it. He promises us that

    How far does it go, beasteolgy? It's all your choice

  • @ktoddweaver "God is so full of love"

    Yes, for we all know, that when he commands us to kill homosexuals, non-believers, disobedient children, to kill a whole town but keep the women to rape later, we all know that he is SO full of love... PRAISE HIM!

  • What do you mean a child can't say 'mom' or dad'? I'm fairly sure that isn't true. Furthermore, president Obama is not a Muslim - he's christian not that it would matte to me if he wasn't.

    The argument being made by the president isn't that you should be made to change your beliefs. You have first amendment rights to religion and speech. What he is arguing is that same sex couples should be treated equally under civil law.

  • Yeah, watch the video when Obama visited Turkey, were he openly tells everyone that he is a Muslim.

    Obama said he was a Christain during the elections, but know we all now he lied, because he has already openly said that he believes in the Islamic religion and is a muslim.

    You should google and watch the video where Obama spoke in Turkey..

  • america is not a christocentric country. and your islamophobic comment doesn't make you much of a constitutionalist,or much of a christian either

  • His whole agenda is one sided, and how in the world does he expect us to sit back and be so easily transformed into accepting what fits his agenda or goal.

    Obama EVEN talking to other church members shows me that he doesn't care to much about defiling or corrupting our churches in this country!!

  • I hear you there! Just wait until one day Obama might announce that same sex marriage is legal in every state, nationwide.

    I don't see how Obama could want or hope to persuade Americans into something that may be against what I believe or even stand for..??

  • Or perhaps he could make all marriages illegal then you couldn't be married either?

  • @DontHaveToWorry "don't see how Obama could want or hope to persuade Americans into something that may be against what I believe or even stand for..??"

    FUCK your idiotic beliefs. They hold NO valid argument when it comes to giving people their RIGHTS.

  • I guess 72% of us must have "old attitudes" - according to Obama's standards.

  • How in the world we can have a president that would want to, or hope to persuade anybody to accept homosexuality - regardless of our morals and beliefs, is beyond me.

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