i think you haters are crazy because Adam Lambert killed that song. I think you all miss the point that he isn't trying to copy Freddie, but instead is honoring him, by NOT doing a COPY CAT version. The band ASKED HIM to join THEM & LOVED the performance and HAVE ASKED HIM TO JOIN THEM AGAIN IN THE FUTURE. Also, don't discard the fact that Adam only had a very short time of preperation for this LIVE performance and stilled killed it. Lighten up and appreciate it for what it was.
There's no haters here, just objective music fans (who like both singers). This video was made in response to Glamberts attacking my subscribers/Queen fans. I never once said Adam was copying Freddie (and actually defended him against that). Adam's performance wasn't up to his usual standards (he's done WAY better performances)!
Adam Lambert is getting his career off the ground and doing extremely well. Straight out of idol, touring then doing his own Glamnation worldwide tour 116 concerts!!! AND in the mean time recorded debut Album in 2months collaborating w the best in the biz. Here's the thing."Queen" INVITED Adam to perform on EMA's no ONE ELSE! then they raved over Adam's performance so much so they invited him to perform with them again soon. Are U going to dispute their choice? GET REAL! ADAM DID FREDDY PROUD!
Well, I certainly wasn't raving about the performance: Adam was hitting notes in the wrong key, and wavered off notes from time to time. I'm not taking away from Adam at all (nor disputing his success), but he HAS done much better performances than the EMA stuff. Check out stuff from Fantasy Springs 2010: If Adam sang like THAT on the EMAs, I would like the performance so much more.
I do wish Adam the best whenever he works with Brian/Roger.
That point is irrelevant. As long as there are fans on both sides of the coin, there's always going to be debates about singers covering other singer's material. If Freddie was alive and did a Adam Lambert cover, I would critique it (not SLAM it as you put it), since I'm a fan of both Freddie and Adam. Adam's performance wasn't that great (tons of pitchy notes), so yes, it's going to get called out on.
If Queen thought that Adam was going to "butcher" the songs, why would they bother to ask him to perform? Did you guys even hear the compliments that were given to Adam by the two greatest Queen band members?
Well, obviously not! I heard the compliments, and both Queen members (especially Brian), are very nice guys when it comes to critiquing their music being covered. Some people liked Adam's performance (including Brian/Roger), some people didn't!
I personally think Freddie was the greatest band member!
That's why I like Adam: He's being HIMSELF. I like the guy and I think he's a fantastic singer. The Queen performance didn't do him justice--I've heard MANY performances better than that.
These vids would be useful for a Raphael Donadieu debate
Raphael Donadieu sings The Show Must - watch?v=Wc7fWMIIzhw His Somebody audition watch?v=p7dEfLFfpFU
Edited Somebody 2 Comparison with Raphael Martel and Freddie
watch?v=PNz1Jx2TEMw
Raphael reminds me of inventiveness in Freddie , Did you ever hear freddie sing the variation Raphael uses? i think its unique but very very Fred arrengment idea stlye
seeing as you have discussed Adam and Finsley and Mullen , i eagerly request a serious roundtable opinion on the prospect of Raphael Donadieu singing queen as he may i am sure enter the european arm of the queen extrvaganza when Roger gets round to it.
For discussion there are two exomplaes worth listening to that give you a broad idea of the kind of performer he is regarding performance of Queen Live- from the idea of -could he perform queen live and and what songs could he manage ?
by the way on one part of the debate you went off topic and started talking about john deacon singing- have you got proof it really is him singing on radio gaga?
You know Queen used to make group decisions, and at the time some fans complained about them but in retrospect they as a total democratic decision making band , made the right choices on direction vdeos etcetc, but now i think roger on his own without freddie john and brians? input has not made the right one- a girl in queen? no way will it work and it contradicts rogers stated aim on Qextrav to offer a real alternative to the amateur tributes.
i was aganist the whole idea of look alikes to be honest or even sound alikes , because someone could sound alike but not be able to give live as is my fear with marc martel , so the raphael gusto piaf type giving it all i think trumped marc martel studio laid backness, but seeing as they picked a look alike sound alike i think they should use it and go all the way and totaly recreate specific period queen concert eras- the plan is a offical QEXTRAV in / for every country.
guys turning up as themselves with a girl singer with them as will be the case for the queen extrvaganza first tour WILL NOT BE A COMPETITION aganist the unofficial period queen tributes that try to give the audiance that freddie as freddie experience.
Roger T said he wants to combat them but he will fail if he does not go the whole hog and recreate as i have said below.
It is not impossible to find someone who can get away with LYCRA and sing Queen WITH GUSTO AND JUSTICE, it will just take careful choosing and time and practice.
i dont think raphael could do lycra but could definitly do leather.
and seeing Queen themselves would be directing it so to speak
and the money etc they have
wow it realy would be the ULTIMATE TRIBUTES and you could relive or live for the first time , get a real taste (hoepfully) of what queen live in various periods (ALL) WAS LIKE.
my dream was for this Qextrav tribute thing for them to re create classic queen period concerts
I hoped Raphael (and he still may) could be freddie 79 paris, that they could recreate almost exaCTty the lighting COSTUME set list etc of the very concerts you do your debates on.
And marc i think suites freddie 86 magic tour era the family freindly queen as i call it.
wouldnt that be what a tribute should be, i mean the official queen backed tributes?
The objection here seems to be that Adam didn't perform these songs in exactly the way that Freddie did the, "He didn't do his homework, he doesn't have the phrasing" I think that misses the point. They admit that Freddie wasn't always clean in pitch when he performed,excusing it for Freddie but trashing Adam rare missed pitch. It all comes down to style - Adam didn't try to perform it as an exact karaoke duplicate of Freddie. "Debaters" claim objectivity, but arguments are subjective as hell.
I think the real point is not how perfectly the singning is , its more about style and mood capturing the shade of the songs lyricial intent, capturing the mood using both the melody and words, saying each word with an emphasis that is right to convey the overall impression the song was made to give in the first place.
I think the real point is not how perfectly the singing is done , its more about style and mood capturing the shade of the songs lyricial intent, capturing the mood using both the melody and words, saying each word with an emphasis that is right to convey the overall impression the song was made to give in the first place.
@DILLONSONG I think Freddie's interpretation has a plaintive air. Adam's, to me, is more defiant in nature. Different to be sure, but not an invalid approach to the lyrical intent.
@dairberner Adam sounds not like hes using the charactor freddie was in the song, adam sounds like he is singing about a slime ball glitzy vegas showbizzy type
by the style he sings in, what adam brings to the song - it deosnt give that overall feeling of soeone real hurting desperate in pain yet strong and resolute in the face of real despair overcoming with determination not to give up.
Adam glamourises it with a fake hollywoodness that is hollw brash glitzy and yet fake.
@DILLONSONG I get that his interpretation is not one you prefer, He didn't sing them the same way Freddie did, instead, he put his own interpretation on them. You don't like it, that's fair, though slime ball glitzy vegas showbizzy is a bit harsh & lessens the 'objectivity' of your viewpoint to that of a purist. Freddie was incredible, but not infallible. Neither is Adam, but given the nature of the show, the medley, and his own personal style, Adam gave, in my opinion, a powerful performance.
@dairberner Yeh its sounds harsh but i was only using it as a way to describe the vibe he gives off when he sings it. No im not a purist really as Raphals version is true too the mood of it but with an explosive extreme finale a real rocking it up which i like .
Not purist just not purile -ist
whoops another dig at Adam's version sorry. but he makes me react by his version in thus manner. i dont like it, like you say.
Adam Lambert didn't do his homework though: All he did, was do his oversinging/wailing style over the songs (TSMGO was awful). Adam's live pitch isn't the best (and it shows on the performance).
It's not about replicating Freddie, it's about "knowing" how to interpret a song.
@Gregsynthbootlegs do you have an example of Freddie singing TSMGO live I can listen to? I actually listened to studio version overlaid w/ adam's, & maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but Adam's pitch is pretty clean other than final sustained & 1 run, & as you/one of your cohorts said, Freddie missed a few notes singing live himself.
Didn't do his homework? That's not likely, given his approach to covers. He doesn't interpret the way you think he should - that's a fair criticism, but subjective.
Freddie didn't do any live performances after 1988 (suffering from Aids), so the only way to compare is to take someone's live version, and then play Freddie's studio version.
Adam was pretty off key on his version: He was hitting Eb5s (instead of D5s) in spots, which don't fit in the key, and would often "waver" off notes when sustaining them. Adam sounds great covering over songs (his Led Zeppelin stuff is great), but he doesn't sound good covering Queen.
@Gregsynthbootlegs yeah, I did that comparison, and don't hear the off key you hear. Not productive line to pursue. I think his vibrato sounded adrenaline induced, and was broader than I'm used to hearing in his live performances. Did decrease how clean the notes were, but we'll just have to agree to disagree on "pretty off key"
I've got absolute pitch (it's a curse), and it makes me hear everything! Even slightly off notes bother me (though I can turn "off" the absolute pitch and enjoy live performances--don't worry)! Yes, Freddie had his share of bad notes/pitch live (avoid the Japan 1979 stuff WITH YOUR LIFE)!!!
The reason why I did this bit, was to indirectly respond to fanboys/fangirls (they get so mad if you bring up Adam's mistakes) for attacking my subscribers for their opinions! Don't worry, you're cool!
To me personally, Adam voice sounds like any other Pop/Rock voice out there. It's very bland and emotionless to me. The only difference is that (I give credit here) Adam has really good technical abilities. Regardless, I find his voice boring. Freddie might not be as technically advanced as AL, but Freddie's ability to show emotion in his vocals, AND the fact that Freddie's EXACT voice sound has never been replicated (compared to people like Elvis).
I agree with everything you said except saying that adam is more technically advanced
he's not technically anything, he is stylised to un-originality as are all mediocre singers they allmay aswell be vocal impersonators because all they ever do is copy the latest singing style fad that is making money for the recording industry.
freddie was true to himself and totaly original thats why you like him, and so is Raphael that why i like him.
Maia is mother mercury and the silver cup is featured as the neon sign above freddie and brian and roger and john's head in the video to princes of the universe
I just studied indepth the lyric to "dont lose you head" hoping for some deep revelation i could use to connect more, but i found nothing other than its just full of good advice.
And Persues (Raphael) aswell as mercury ofcourse can fly
I believe Raphael to be one of the foretold coming princes in the future of us all, after all he infact according to one version of greek mythology is the one who gave mercury the gift of a winged helmet qwhile mercury lent persus his winged shows
to kill gorgon- that leads me to dont lose your head
Plus the lyric of princes of the universe is about if you read it my way- speaks of the coming offspring of freddie the king who is the symbolic father of the princes to come
he even graphically displays what he meant by sword in the video
yes its all nonsense but it all fits perfectly down to people say ive had my day
a reference to artifical insemination coming and girls and even a hiv test before the sperm was given
DID YOU KNOW that in the queen princes of the universe video, Freddie and the band have the very symbol of mother mercury and son aboe their heads?
This ofcourse relates to another queen song where freddie speaks of mother mercury , which in turn contains the reference to his saling the seas from mars to mercury, which in itself as i have discovred relates to marc martel as his name means "sent from mars"
Plus the lyric of princes of the universe is about if you read it my way-
One thing of a sad note but non the less interesting that struck me recently was the realisation that queens most famous song has attached to it queens most famous group logo or photo, which like the song lyric depicts freddie dead , the classic Bohemian Rhapsody group photo depicts Freddie alone in the classic death pose, yet the rest of the band still alive surrounding him.
I dont know if you are interested in this angle or if there is any , but do you know of any queen conspiracy theories or the like?
I was just thinking maybe someone else knows some to do with songs and queen myth /history in general , could be the source of another kind of debate or initiation if you will into secret lore . For sure it seems there is some strange cosmic trickster called coincidence playing around with marc martel and raphael donaadieu recent introduction to the queen universe
people also can take these two things from queen when they come away from the music theatricality emotion and rock
Adam sadly just has no point of reference other than some hollywood broadway style crap and that is why he fails to emote convince or impress because his musical points of reference are too fake to swallow up a song like the show must go on and deliver anything remotely authentic while Raphael has and does.
There were many facets to Freddie , both personailty wise and performance wise VOCALLY, this has been said many times before, but it is crucial to peoples understanding of what and who freddie sounded like.
Adam Lamberts point of reference is from an american rock and broadway point of view, that is his reference when he thinks of freddies vocal.
Marc martels is from an admitted limited studio album perception of sound of voice.
Raphael's is far deeper and shares an actual creative flair similar to Freddies himself that can disect a song a melody and interpret it in a stlye that i think is reminsicent of the choices freddie himself might have made if performing a song like show must go on LIVE.
Adam is thinking of freddie performing the great pretender and visually at that, he then associates that with American showbizz TORCH SONGS and references Broadway style dramatic vocals to accompany what he is perceiving and HAY PRESTO produces a Gene Pitney version of THE show must go on, complete with warbling tremelo voice for added dramatism, like a bad taste over the top VEGAS SHOW like a SOOOOOO emotional and heartfelt OSCAR SPEECH THAT MAKES YOU WANT TO DIE!
ON the other hand Raphael is thinking about how freddie would have performed show must go on live, and Raphael has the ability and the insight to make it manifest.
I know in my gut this is the reason i am so tuned in and addicted to what Raphael is doing with his voice in all the music he does , i sense A Freddie CREATIVENESS that pleases my soul when i hear the finished product.. That is my analyisis of whats going on with Adam, Marc and Raphael and my incite into why i like Raphael's singing so much
i was under the impression you were ignoring me on purpose seeing as i posted raphaels video to you and got no reply and posted it everywhere on your comments pages and still you didnt reply.
Listening to audience vids...he did sound on pitch...Jimmi Hendrix greatest performance was playing the SSB, not following the original melody because he made it his own. Adam takes songs and makes them his own.
He was off key on the audience videos (like hitting wrong notes on songs and wavering off sustained notes). There's a difference between making the song your own (what Hendrix did), and overdoing the vocals (what Adam did).
Did Adam sign up to imitate Freddy or was he called 1 week before the performance by Queen to sing with them as a performer in his own right....nameless or course....Great that Greg can be the great imitation that everyone is looking for...
Im totaly tired of you puting Adam Lambert in same sentence as Freddie,he is good but not that good what you think,please stop arguing and remember goats arent legends!
This is fantastic. Greg and TSS killer have made very interesting points on this matter. Adam lambert's range as a singer is pretty good however as previously mentioned, the tonality of the songs completely changes when hitting and wailling wrong notes. I personally don't want to hear anyone else sing queen songs besides Freddie anyway, especially superficial "artists" today.
I personally prefer Freddie on his own material (lol--who doesn't?), but there are some singers that sing his material well! I think Elton John did a credible job on Bo Rhap and The Show Must Go On, and George Michael does great renditions!
@Alexander87oclock Calling Lambert a "superficial artist" dismissively makes me laugh! One day you will eat those words. His "range as a singer" is FAR above "pretty good" and even THESE Queen guys/fans recognize that.I've been around a LONG TIME..seen 'em come & go. Lambert is HERE TO STAY. Greg and TSS HAVE made "interesting points"....But no more than a few others. People tend to agree with the point that supports their preconceived opinions.
@queenrosered Obviously, it's called confirmation biased if your familiar with it! But even then, from the very origins of of any legendary artist such as MJ, Queen, Elvis, Zeppelin, Mozart, Beethoven ect. All of them have made significant contributions to music in the early stages of their careers, those are the artists who "STAY." You say he's "HERE TO STAY?" I can grantee you in this year and many more to come he will give no significant contribution to music, at all.
The voting is OVER & it is OFFICIAL. Adam Lambert beat ALL the people who have EVER sung with Queen (since Freddie) with over 93% of the votes. All the technical analysis, griping& pontificating etc..in the world won't change the FACT that the MAJORITY of Queen AND Lambert fans think he's a PERFECT fit. MORE IMPORTANT, MAY & TAYLOR think so.;D And I know U try to be objective Greg..but it just isn't HUMANLY POSSIBLE.Admit it, U R HUMAN, as am I.Thanks! ;D (I know U don't delete comments)
Of course I'm human! Many fans do like Lambert and Queen (it's right in front of my face), and I DO love Adam (just not on the performance I saw). I'll give Adam another chance (if he does do more work with Queen). I trust Brian and Roger on this!
@queenrosered he is a perfect fit for girl bands not a band Queen, plus there is no Queen without Freddie and no one cant beat hes legend ,only Freddie is better than Freddie ;)
@Gregsynthbootlegs Yes indeed, Freddie IS a legend! But we know that doesn't happen overnight.25 to 40 years from now...people could very well be saying the same about Lambert.I won't be around to hear it but MY GHOST will! Hahahaaa! ;D U rock Greg!
@TheMrMouth OK Mr...you had VERY LITTLE credibility to begin with..this remark wiped even that out.He is a MAN.Just as Freddie, Elton and Rob Halford are MEN.
And you've hit the real crux of the matter..He's NOT FREDDIE! Freddie, is DEAD. As in NOT COMING BACK! Got that?? Adam wasn't trying to BE Freddie or BEAT Freddie...he was fucking ASKED by May and Taylor to HONOR him! What part of THAT do you NOT comprehend? (while thinking of a response, don't forget to breathe) *rolls eyes*
@queenrosered attacking,insulting me for being real is just a primitive life form that you really are, but hey im not going on your level,look at me ,am i angry ;), stay safe and be good girl.
@TheMrMouth Ha! There's nothing "safe" about me...the word's not in my vocabulary.As for attacking you....get out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat.Your feeble attempts to demean and mock Mr. Lambert's talent are truly cringe-worthy.The authors/contributors of this video have acknowledged his talent and wouldn't resort to the childish behavior you exhibit.So give it a rest, Gremlin.Finally...why assume I'm FEMALE? Or "young"? Ohhh, right..not the sharpest knife, etc... ;D
@queenrosered Im going slightly mad but i have somebody to love and you can only attack me for being myself,Im the champion here and you are rushing headlong but there must be more to life than this so god bless you and i only have one vision, to see you all trolls dead on time! ;)
@genome38 I agree mostly with you, genome.But actually...the original poster, has TRIED (most of the time) to be fair/objective to/about Lambert.But he's SUCH a fan of Queen & of Freddie in particular, that it's like asking a father to judge a beauty contest OBJECTIVELY, when his own daughter is a contestant. IMPOSSIBLE!
The official Queen website has a poll that ends tomorrow for who did the best Q+ collab ever. Lambert now has OVER 93% of votes.(Sorry Greg, U guys R off base on this,IMO)
@queenrosered Well, thanks for replying to my DELETED comment. This guy is so insecure he has deleted my comments, yet he over-comments on his own video. What I see here is a campaign to try to label Adam as a "pitchy" singer. He has been beating this drum now for two weeks.All during Idol, Idol tour, Adam's promo & GN tour, and the VERY long original Adam thread on DDD, and the "new" one up to now, this never was an issue. But, Adam sang with Queen, and people liked it, and he cannot stand it.
I don't delete comments. I got a reply from "queenrosered" and saw her comment below. She linked your name into it, but I never saw your comment on the video. I don't even know what your original comment said--but queenrose agreed with it. I don't delete comments
And quite frankly, you don't seem to understand a few things. There's no campaign to label anybody anything. This was a REQUEST by my SUBSCRIBERS for me to make this video (since they were attacked by fanboys of Adam).
As far as pitchy, yes--Adam WAS pitchy on the songs, but that's not slamming Lambert. That's simply being objective. If you follow my channel, I've made plenty of observations on Freddie's live performances and I can tell you just about anything about them (notes, phrasing, vocal problems, etc). The problem is that Adam's fans see any criticism towards Adam's music/performance as the worst thing ever--and will hunt you down (and sometimes block you off his videos). I allow all opinions on here.
As far as the insecurity thing, I don't think I'm insecure: I never delete comments, anyone can voice their opinions, etc. Quite frankly, you seem to be pretty insecure yourself (hiding your channel from people, and your general negative attitude towards people).
@genome38 While I have seen a few "pitchy" comments here & there genome...again, not ALL "experts" agree there either. An OPERA EXPERT, Angelina Kalahari has quite a few DETAILED breakdowns of Adam's various performances on Sound Bath..Google them & listen. She has performed for the Royal Family by Royal command & also TEACHES music. I trust HER analysis best.She goes deeper into his technique also. ENJOY! ;D
@Gregsynthbootlegs Awwww, C'Mon Greg! You don't even know those, LOL! I'm KIDDING of course! Angelina, as an actual opera singer herself AND a music instructor goes onto some depth about his breathing, phrasing, emoting, register switches and blending, as well as resonance and tone.She only flew from the UK to hear him LIVE in New Orleans after several friends mentioned how awesome his vocals were and she watched many YouTubes (ie: Brigadoon, Is Anybody Listening) and (cont)
@Gregsynthbootlegs (cont) went to TWO more live concerts before jetting back to UK.There, she has kept up with his live performances, as she did a "review" Of "Outlaws of Love" too. I know that you respect his talent but we disagree about him being as pitchy as you allege.Is he EVER off-pitch? Ha! Of course, as they ALL are live at times.But not as off and not as often as you seem to think..IMHO. I'd rate his overall pitch as above average in his tier, even if not the BEST. ;D
Listen to my opinion as you all say you respect opinions.Adam Lambert doesnt have beautifull voice,it doesnt fit in Queen songs,its iritating with vibrato and he allways over singing. Think what you think but i dont like that kind of voices and screams, Ian Gillan in his early days could make a high note that Adam could only dreamed and Gillan is known for his screams(better than A.L), that doesnt make him better than Freddie or Bruce Dickinson, etc.. High notes doesnt deliver best singers?!
I agree that he doesn't fit well with Queen's material! He does have a tendency to oversing/over-do the vocals on some of his cover versions (which depending on the song, either works or doesn't work), and his vibrato is pretty un-controlled at times.
I also agree that range doesn't determine the best singers!
@Gregsynthbootlegs Again Greg, the WAY he chooses to utilize his vibrato is part and parcel of how HE interprets a song.It's also VERY controlled.For example.. listen to the many versions of "Mad World"...you'll hear it used VERY effectively on the word "nervous" when he sings " I was very NERVOUS" Freddie had very little vibrato. You're used to it.It's also part of Adam's technique/training. I love it myself. I'd say his vibrato is more like Orbison's.Different songs tho. ;D
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DILLONSONG 21 hours ago
i think you haters are crazy because Adam Lambert killed that song. I think you all miss the point that he isn't trying to copy Freddie, but instead is honoring him, by NOT doing a COPY CAT version. The band ASKED HIM to join THEM & LOVED the performance and HAVE ASKED HIM TO JOIN THEM AGAIN IN THE FUTURE. Also, don't discard the fact that Adam only had a very short time of preperation for this LIVE performance and stilled killed it. Lighten up and appreciate it for what it was.
supertrw 1 month ago 2
There's no haters here, just objective music fans (who like both singers). This video was made in response to Glamberts attacking my subscribers/Queen fans. I never once said Adam was copying Freddie (and actually defended him against that). Adam's performance wasn't up to his usual standards (he's done WAY better performances)!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
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qssmeds 1 week ago
I agree: If that can happen, imagine the performance (a million times better than this)!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 week ago
@supertrw you are right he killed the song cos there is no life in the song singed by Adam!
TheMrMouth 1 week ago
Yep! Yelling and off key singing = Killing the song!
:)
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 week ago
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MinionoftheDarkLord 1 month ago
Well if it's off key, then it is a disgrace (compared with the original version)!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
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FreddieMercury1994 1 month ago
I agree with that!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
It was a fucking awful show.
Zebonka 1 month ago
ZEBONKA! You are the MAN!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
Adam Lambert is getting his career off the ground and doing extremely well. Straight out of idol, touring then doing his own Glamnation worldwide tour 116 concerts!!! AND in the mean time recorded debut Album in 2months collaborating w the best in the biz. Here's the thing."Queen" INVITED Adam to perform on EMA's no ONE ELSE! then they raved over Adam's performance so much so they invited him to perform with them again soon. Are U going to dispute their choice? GET REAL! ADAM DID FREDDY PROUD!
mpcam09 1 month ago
Well, I certainly wasn't raving about the performance: Adam was hitting notes in the wrong key, and wavered off notes from time to time. I'm not taking away from Adam at all (nor disputing his success), but he HAS done much better performances than the EMA stuff. Check out stuff from Fantasy Springs 2010: If Adam sang like THAT on the EMAs, I would like the performance so much more.
I do wish Adam the best whenever he works with Brian/Roger.
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
All you are doing is slamming Adam! Can you guys please sing the songs for me so I can critique you?
BlareLevoirFan 1 month ago
That point is irrelevant. As long as there are fans on both sides of the coin, there's always going to be debates about singers covering other singer's material. If Freddie was alive and did a Adam Lambert cover, I would critique it (not SLAM it as you put it), since I'm a fan of both Freddie and Adam. Adam's performance wasn't that great (tons of pitchy notes), so yes, it's going to get called out on.
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
If Queen thought that Adam was going to "butcher" the songs, why would they bother to ask him to perform? Did you guys even hear the compliments that were given to Adam by the two greatest Queen band members?
BlareLevoirFan 1 month ago
Well, obviously not! I heard the compliments, and both Queen members (especially Brian), are very nice guys when it comes to critiquing their music being covered. Some people liked Adam's performance (including Brian/Roger), some people didn't!
I personally think Freddie was the greatest band member!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
Adam is not trying to be the next Freddy Mercury nor is trying to replace him on Queen!
BlareLevoirFan 1 month ago
That's why I like Adam: He's being HIMSELF. I like the guy and I think he's a fantastic singer. The Queen performance didn't do him justice--I've heard MANY performances better than that.
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
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thebiggestqueenfan 1 month ago
LOL
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
Thanks for the comments so far! I've seen some excellent comments from both sides of the argument!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
Greg
These vids would be useful for a Raphael Donadieu debate
Raphael Donadieu sings The Show Must - watch?v=Wc7fWMIIzhw His Somebody audition watch?v=p7dEfLFfpFU
Edited Somebody 2 Comparison with Raphael Martel and Freddie
watch?v=PNz1Jx2TEMw
Raphael reminds me of inventiveness in Freddie , Did you ever hear freddie sing the variation Raphael uses? i think its unique but very very Fred arrengment idea stlye
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
Greg,
seeing as you have discussed Adam and Finsley and Mullen , i eagerly request a serious roundtable opinion on the prospect of Raphael Donadieu singing queen as he may i am sure enter the european arm of the queen extrvaganza when Roger gets round to it.
For discussion there are two exomplaes worth listening to that give you a broad idea of the kind of performer he is regarding performance of Queen Live- from the idea of -could he perform queen live and and what songs could he manage ?
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
by the way on one part of the debate you went off topic and started talking about john deacon singing- have you got proof it really is him singing on radio gaga?
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
What i find amazing is that Raphael can get away with sining my makeup maybe be flaking but my smile still stays on
seeing as hes the only one as far as i am aware who doesnt wear it and isnt gay who has sung it . YOU FREDDIE GOT ELTON JOHN THEN ADAM
Then Raphael Donadieu
for a seemingly straight man to convincingly sing that line IS GENIOUS.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
Even though Freddie was Gay he knew when to be a man and when to camp it up with class unlike ADAM
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
The only girls in Any of the queen extrvaganza tours should be naked on bicycles of anythingggggggg and thats that.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
You know Queen used to make group decisions, and at the time some fans complained about them but in retrospect they as a total democratic decision making band , made the right choices on direction vdeos etcetc, but now i think roger on his own without freddie john and brians? input has not made the right one- a girl in queen? no way will it work and it contradicts rogers stated aim on Qextrav to offer a real alternative to the amateur tributes.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
i was aganist the whole idea of look alikes to be honest or even sound alikes , because someone could sound alike but not be able to give live as is my fear with marc martel , so the raphael gusto piaf type giving it all i think trumped marc martel studio laid backness, but seeing as they picked a look alike sound alike i think they should use it and go all the way and totaly recreate specific period queen concert eras- the plan is a offical QEXTRAV in / for every country.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
guys turning up as themselves with a girl singer with them as will be the case for the queen extrvaganza first tour WILL NOT BE A COMPETITION aganist the unofficial period queen tributes that try to give the audiance that freddie as freddie experience.
Roger T said he wants to combat them but he will fail if he does not go the whole hog and recreate as i have said below.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
It is not impossible to find someone who can get away with LYCRA and sing Queen WITH GUSTO AND JUSTICE, it will just take careful choosing and time and practice.
i dont think raphael could do lycra but could definitly do leather.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
It would be the closest thing to a time machine
and seeing Queen themselves would be directing it so to speak
and the money etc they have
wow it realy would be the ULTIMATE TRIBUTES and you could relive or live for the first time , get a real taste (hoepfully) of what queen live in various periods (ALL) WAS LIKE.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
That authentic recreation wouldnt be theater in any way it just would be set in that time totally
and IT WOULD BE 79
you would choose which freddie you want to see which queen concert you want to see.
GET IT?
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
on that concert design and look etc-
my dream was for this Qextrav tribute thing for them to re create classic queen period concerts
I hoped Raphael (and he still may) could be freddie 79 paris, that they could recreate almost exaCTty the lighting COSTUME set list etc of the very concerts you do your debates on.
And marc i think suites freddie 86 magic tour era the family freindly queen as i call it.
wouldnt that be what a tribute should be, i mean the official queen backed tributes?
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
all this puts me in mind of another grumble i have about design today
Do you think the overall design of concernts sets and costume lighting etc has become very samish and uninteresting today?
i mean take the last queen apearences without freddie
there is something very unamiginative about the whole look today and not just with queen.
its a bit like movies today and the use of digital everywhere its like technology has cause the loss of real artistic creativeness .
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
The objection here seems to be that Adam didn't perform these songs in exactly the way that Freddie did the, "He didn't do his homework, he doesn't have the phrasing" I think that misses the point. They admit that Freddie wasn't always clean in pitch when he performed,excusing it for Freddie but trashing Adam rare missed pitch. It all comes down to style - Adam didn't try to perform it as an exact karaoke duplicate of Freddie. "Debaters" claim objectivity, but arguments are subjective as hell.
dairberner 1 month ago
@dairberner
I think the real point is not how perfectly the singning is , its more about style and mood capturing the shade of the songs lyricial intent, capturing the mood using both the melody and words, saying each word with an emphasis that is right to convey the overall impression the song was made to give in the first place.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
@dairberner
I think the real point is not how perfectly the singing is done , its more about style and mood capturing the shade of the songs lyricial intent, capturing the mood using both the melody and words, saying each word with an emphasis that is right to convey the overall impression the song was made to give in the first place.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
@DILLONSONG I think Freddie's interpretation has a plaintive air. Adam's, to me, is more defiant in nature. Different to be sure, but not an invalid approach to the lyrical intent.
dairberner 1 month ago
@dairberner yeh he only understand camp bitch stlye girl
you go get me girl
PUKE!
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
@DILLONSONG ah, you're one of those. OK then, no use discussing this with you.
dairberner 1 month ago
@dairberner
Whats "one of those?'
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
@dairberner Adam sounds not like hes using the charactor freddie was in the song, adam sounds like he is singing about a slime ball glitzy vegas showbizzy type
by the style he sings in, what adam brings to the song - it deosnt give that overall feeling of soeone real hurting desperate in pain yet strong and resolute in the face of real despair overcoming with determination not to give up.
Adam glamourises it with a fake hollywoodness that is hollw brash glitzy and yet fake.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
@DILLONSONG I get that his interpretation is not one you prefer, He didn't sing them the same way Freddie did, instead, he put his own interpretation on them. You don't like it, that's fair, though slime ball glitzy vegas showbizzy is a bit harsh & lessens the 'objectivity' of your viewpoint to that of a purist. Freddie was incredible, but not infallible. Neither is Adam, but given the nature of the show, the medley, and his own personal style, Adam gave, in my opinion, a powerful performance.
dairberner 1 month ago
@dairberner Yeh its sounds harsh but i was only using it as a way to describe the vibe he gives off when he sings it. No im not a purist really as Raphals version is true too the mood of it but with an explosive extreme finale a real rocking it up which i like .
Not purist just not purile -ist
whoops another dig at Adam's version sorry. but he makes me react by his version in thus manner. i dont like it, like you say.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
Adam Lambert didn't do his homework though: All he did, was do his oversinging/wailing style over the songs (TSMGO was awful). Adam's live pitch isn't the best (and it shows on the performance).
It's not about replicating Freddie, it's about "knowing" how to interpret a song.
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
@Gregsynthbootlegs do you have an example of Freddie singing TSMGO live I can listen to? I actually listened to studio version overlaid w/ adam's, & maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but Adam's pitch is pretty clean other than final sustained & 1 run, & as you/one of your cohorts said, Freddie missed a few notes singing live himself.
Didn't do his homework? That's not likely, given his approach to covers. He doesn't interpret the way you think he should - that's a fair criticism, but subjective.
dairberner 1 month ago
Freddie didn't do any live performances after 1988 (suffering from Aids), so the only way to compare is to take someone's live version, and then play Freddie's studio version.
Adam was pretty off key on his version: He was hitting Eb5s (instead of D5s) in spots, which don't fit in the key, and would often "waver" off notes when sustaining them. Adam sounds great covering over songs (his Led Zeppelin stuff is great), but he doesn't sound good covering Queen.
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
@Gregsynthbootlegs yeah, I did that comparison, and don't hear the off key you hear. Not productive line to pursue. I think his vibrato sounded adrenaline induced, and was broader than I'm used to hearing in his live performances. Did decrease how clean the notes were, but we'll just have to agree to disagree on "pretty off key"
dairberner 1 month ago
I've got absolute pitch (it's a curse), and it makes me hear everything! Even slightly off notes bother me (though I can turn "off" the absolute pitch and enjoy live performances--don't worry)! Yes, Freddie had his share of bad notes/pitch live (avoid the Japan 1979 stuff WITH YOUR LIFE)!!!
The reason why I did this bit, was to indirectly respond to fanboys/fangirls (they get so mad if you bring up Adam's mistakes) for attacking my subscribers for their opinions! Don't worry, you're cool!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
@dairberner
""I think his vibrato sounded adrenaline induced"'
Lol never heard anything so funny in my life
he got an attack of the campy vibrato and couldnt contain it!!
ROFL
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
@Gregsynthbootlegs
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DILLONSONG 1 month ago
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@Gregsynthbootlegs
yes!
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
I see many interesting points being made!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
chrisys93
ROBOTS are technologically advanced
it doesnt mean really anything MUCH where ART is concerned
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
@DILLONSONG Yes, good point
chrisys93 1 month ago
To me personally, Adam voice sounds like any other Pop/Rock voice out there. It's very bland and emotionless to me. The only difference is that (I give credit here) Adam has really good technical abilities. Regardless, I find his voice boring. Freddie might not be as technically advanced as AL, but Freddie's ability to show emotion in his vocals, AND the fact that Freddie's EXACT voice sound has never been replicated (compared to people like Elvis).
chrisys93 1 month ago
@chrisys93
I agree with everything you said except saying that adam is more technically advanced
he's not technically anything, he is stylised to un-originality as are all mediocre singers they allmay aswell be vocal impersonators because all they ever do is copy the latest singing style fad that is making money for the recording industry.
freddie was true to himself and totaly original thats why you like him, and so is Raphael that why i like him.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
Maia is mother mercury and the silver cup is featured as the neon sign above freddie and brian and roger and john's head in the video to princes of the universe
phew! - just incase you got confused.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
I just studied indepth the lyric to "dont lose you head" hoping for some deep revelation i could use to connect more, but i found nothing other than its just full of good advice.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
SILVER CUP -
Mercury and Maia[10] inside a silver cup dedicated by the freedman P. Aelius Eutychus (late 2nd century AD), from a Gallo-Roman religious site
look up wiki/Maia
Hermes greek for is mercury
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
shoes* im dislexic, i think.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
And Persues (Raphael) aswell as mercury ofcourse can fly
I believe Raphael to be one of the foretold coming princes in the future of us all, after all he infact according to one version of greek mythology is the one who gave mercury the gift of a winged helmet qwhile mercury lent persus his winged shows
to kill gorgon- that leads me to dont lose your head
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
Plus the lyric of princes of the universe is about if you read it my way- speaks of the coming offspring of freddie the king who is the symbolic father of the princes to come
he even graphically displays what he meant by sword in the video
yes its all nonsense but it all fits perfectly down to people say ive had my day
a reference to artifical insemination coming and girls and even a hiv test before the sperm was given
then we go straight to the outre-come
Here we are born to kings ..
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
another tidbit
DID YOU KNOW that in the queen princes of the universe video, Freddie and the band have the very symbol of mother mercury and son aboe their heads?
This ofcourse relates to another queen song where freddie speaks of mother mercury , which in turn contains the reference to his saling the seas from mars to mercury, which in itself as i have discovred relates to marc martel as his name means "sent from mars"
Plus the lyric of princes of the universe is about if you read it my way-
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
One thing of a sad note but non the less interesting that struck me recently was the realisation that queens most famous song has attached to it queens most famous group logo or photo, which like the song lyric depicts freddie dead , the classic Bohemian Rhapsody group photo depicts Freddie alone in the classic death pose, yet the rest of the band still alive surrounding him.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
I dont know if you are interested in this angle or if there is any , but do you know of any queen conspiracy theories or the like?
I was just thinking maybe someone else knows some to do with songs and queen myth /history in general , could be the source of another kind of debate or initiation if you will into secret lore . For sure it seems there is some strange cosmic trickster called coincidence playing around with marc martel and raphael donaadieu recent introduction to the queen universe
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
check out my martel raphael
Astonishing coincidence or destiny?
parts 1 and 2 in new series
watch?v=ZhmlgSlHck4
watch?v=5W7CFAPl3Vc
i think i found something very wierd its spookyi dont blieve it but it would be a great publicity tool
whats in thos vodeos is only the tip of the iceberg
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
anyway i hope to chat with you more but i have someone here so got to go
i am so glad Raphael has your ears, I BELIEVE YOU ARE VERY INFUENTIAL
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
I'll catch you later!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
just now
yes right now
my last two queen box sets have arrived wow now i hawe them all!!
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
Nice! Now, you can hear some awesome music!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
people also can take these two things from queen when they come away from the music theatricality emotion and rock
Adam sadly just has no point of reference other than some hollywood broadway style crap and that is why he fails to emote convince or impress because his musical points of reference are too fake to swallow up a song like the show must go on and deliver anything remotely authentic while Raphael has and does.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
I agree. Lambert didn't really show emotion on his renditions!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
SINGERS CAN INTERPRETATE EMOTIONAL SONGS TWO WAYS by warbling overly dramatic fake sounding shzmult like Adam did
or with intense roaring rock vocal like Raphael did
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
Yes!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
And before anyone responds with some hollow comment such as i dont know the first thing about music etc
My answer IS THIS
I KNOW WHAT I LIKE AND I LIKE WHAT I KNOW
My TASTE is my own AND I LIKE WHAT I TASTE
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
I agree with you. Everybody has their own taste!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
@Gregsynthbootlegs
yes true but some peoples are attrocious
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
I can agree with that statement!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
There were many facets to Freddie , both personailty wise and performance wise VOCALLY, this has been said many times before, but it is crucial to peoples understanding of what and who freddie sounded like.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
I agree!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
Adam Lamberts point of reference is from an american rock and broadway point of view, that is his reference when he thinks of freddies vocal.
Marc martels is from an admitted limited studio album perception of sound of voice.
Raphael's is far deeper and shares an actual creative flair similar to Freddies himself that can disect a song a melody and interpret it in a stlye that i think is reminsicent of the choices freddie himself might have made if performing a song like show must go on LIVE.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
Good comment!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
Adam is thinking of freddie performing the great pretender and visually at that, he then associates that with American showbizz TORCH SONGS and references Broadway style dramatic vocals to accompany what he is perceiving and HAY PRESTO produces a Gene Pitney version of THE show must go on, complete with warbling tremelo voice for added dramatism, like a bad taste over the top VEGAS SHOW like a SOOOOOO emotional and heartfelt OSCAR SPEECH THAT MAKES YOU WANT TO DIE!
LITERALLY die!
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
Haha! Your comments are great!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
IN other words HE SZHMUltZEZ IT TO DEATH !!!!
TO OBLIVION!!!
AND SQUIRTS IT ALL OVER COVERED IN A CHEAP
FAKE GOOHEY SUBSTANCE
UNRECOGNIZABLE TO its orginal intent!
Elton John did something very similar also.
COULD BE THE FAKE AMERICAN ACCENT LEAVES A BAD TASTE WHO KNOWS?
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
I actually think Elton did well on the song, but not Adam!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
@Gregsynthbootlegs
you mean at the tribute? i thought it was crap
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
Well there's some versions from 1992 and the 1998-1999 tour that were better than the tribute version!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
ON the other hand Raphael is thinking about how freddie would have performed show must go on live, and Raphael has the ability and the insight to make it manifest.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
Yes!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
@Gregsynthbootlegs
So then my famous greg synth the expert on freddie mercury at last i can ask you!!! what do you think of marc martel and raphael donadieu?
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
I like Marc Martel, and I think Raphael is brilliant!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
@Gregsynthbootlegs
so you like martel but think raphael has some thing MORE other than soundalike? BECAUSE THATS WHAT I THINK i think he HAS IT
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
Raphael puts his own spin on it, but he DELIVERS the song well!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
I know in my gut this is the reason i am so tuned in and addicted to what Raphael is doing with his voice in all the music he does , i sense A Freddie CREATIVENESS that pleases my soul when i hear the finished product.. That is my analyisis of whats going on with Adam, Marc and Raphael and my incite into why i like Raphael's singing so much
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
Very interesting comment!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
@Gregsynthbootlegs
You mean to say you agree with me?
i was under the impression you were ignoring me on purpose seeing as i posted raphaels video to you and got no reply and posted it everywhere on your comments pages and still you didnt reply.
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
I was not on the computer then! Plus you commented like 40 times--so I had to read them all!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
Adam lambert has no original style at all he just a szhmatlzy american broadway singer he made a mockery of SMGO
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
I agree that he didn't do well!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
IGNORE ADAM LAMBERT DONT EVEN DISCUSS HIM HES CRAP
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
haha!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
Raphael Donadieu no vibrato
the best ever cover of any queen song
the only one who actually makes my spine tingle like freddie did
watch?v=Wc7fWMIIzhw
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
I'll watch that!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
adam lambert belongs on braodway the mas a star!!
but he does not belong anywhare near queen
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
I agree with you!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
QUEEN EXTRAVAGANZA - Rise of the Heroes
Astonishing coincidence or destiny?
parts 1 and 2 in new series
watch?v=ZhmlgSlHck4
watch?v=5W7CFAPl3Vc
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
Nice links!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
Just to clarify a little, I was only speaking of TSMGO, not the rest...didn't like what he did with the melodies or the vibrato.
outlawbooster 1 month ago
I agree!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
Listening to audience vids...he did sound on pitch...Jimmi Hendrix greatest performance was playing the SSB, not following the original melody because he made it his own. Adam takes songs and makes them his own.
outlawbooster 1 month ago
He was off key on the audience videos (like hitting wrong notes on songs and wavering off sustained notes). There's a difference between making the song your own (what Hendrix did), and overdoing the vocals (what Adam did).
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago 2
Did Adam sign up to imitate Freddy or was he called 1 week before the performance by Queen to sing with them as a performer in his own right....nameless or course....Great that Greg can be the great imitation that everyone is looking for...
outlawbooster 1 month ago
That has nothing to do with it: It's about sounding good, and delivering the song well.
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
@Gregsynthbootlegs wtf. I have no idea what point he was trying to make lol
chrisys93 1 month ago
@Gregsynthbootlegs
YOU TASTE IS APPUALING HOW ON EARTH CAN SOMEONE WHO IS CRAZY ABOUT SUCH A VOICE AS FREDDIE MERCURY'S POSSIBLY GET ALL GIGGLY ABOUT ADAM LAMBERT?
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
I'm not giggly about Adam! haha
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
greg!!! lets move on to uploads, im tired of this topic. Bring on paris/pheonix reuploads
chrisys93 1 month ago
I'll upload more!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
@chrisys93
The pheonix is rising and i hope it will rise in paris soon
DILLONSONG 1 month ago
Im totaly tired of you puting Adam Lambert in same sentence as Freddie,he is good but not that good what you think,please stop arguing and remember goats arent legends!
TheMrMouth 1 month ago
@TheMrMouth pardon me, whailling(sorry for my engish dears)
"Do you have a mesagge for stations in Mexico:Nooo. Why not? Cos i dont give a shit"
Legends dont fall from a tree- remember that all young people,im sorry for all yours lack of aknowledge
TheMrMouth 1 month ago
Greg this is getting better and better ,this Adam fans are so crazy that im just laughing loool ahahhaahha
TheMrMouth 1 month ago
Well, it gives me something to do besides upload shows!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
This is fantastic. Greg and TSS killer have made very interesting points on this matter. Adam lambert's range as a singer is pretty good however as previously mentioned, the tonality of the songs completely changes when hitting and wailling wrong notes. I personally don't want to hear anyone else sing queen songs besides Freddie anyway, especially superficial "artists" today.
Alexander87oclock 1 month ago
I personally prefer Freddie on his own material (lol--who doesn't?), but there are some singers that sing his material well! I think Elton John did a credible job on Bo Rhap and The Show Must Go On, and George Michael does great renditions!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
@Alexander87oclock Calling Lambert a "superficial artist" dismissively makes me laugh! One day you will eat those words. His "range as a singer" is FAR above "pretty good" and even THESE Queen guys/fans recognize that.I've been around a LONG TIME..seen 'em come & go. Lambert is HERE TO STAY. Greg and TSS HAVE made "interesting points"....But no more than a few others. People tend to agree with the point that supports their preconceived opinions.
queenrosered 1 month ago
@queenrosered Obviously, it's called confirmation biased if your familiar with it! But even then, from the very origins of of any legendary artist such as MJ, Queen, Elvis, Zeppelin, Mozart, Beethoven ect. All of them have made significant contributions to music in the early stages of their careers, those are the artists who "STAY." You say he's "HERE TO STAY?" I can grantee you in this year and many more to come he will give no significant contribution to music, at all.
Alexander87oclock 1 month ago
God, people. Stop the fucking arguing.
GoodGuitarSolos 1 month ago
:D
Well, the comments are entertaining!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
@Gregsynthbootlegs AGREE! ;D
queenrosered 1 month ago
@GoodGuitarSolos It isn't always "arguing" Solos.....we are "debating"...so don't FRET...(lol, get it? fret?)
While you're here...Vaughn, Vai, Bonamassa,Malmsteen, Clapton or Hendrix?? And why? ;D (or add your own if not here)
queenrosered 1 month ago
@queenrosered Certain people are getting too upset here.
Vai, I love his style the most out of those names.
GoodGuitarSolos 1 month ago
The voting is OVER & it is OFFICIAL. Adam Lambert beat ALL the people who have EVER sung with Queen (since Freddie) with over 93% of the votes. All the technical analysis, griping& pontificating etc..in the world won't change the FACT that the MAJORITY of Queen AND Lambert fans think he's a PERFECT fit. MORE IMPORTANT, MAY & TAYLOR think so.;D And I know U try to be objective Greg..but it just isn't HUMANLY POSSIBLE.Admit it, U R HUMAN, as am I.Thanks! ;D (I know U don't delete comments)
queenrosered 1 month ago
Of course I'm human! Many fans do like Lambert and Queen (it's right in front of my face), and I DO love Adam (just not on the performance I saw). I'll give Adam another chance (if he does do more work with Queen). I trust Brian and Roger on this!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
@queenrosered he is a perfect fit for girl bands not a band Queen, plus there is no Queen without Freddie and no one cant beat hes legend ,only Freddie is better than Freddie ;)
TheMrMouth 1 month ago
Freddie Mercury is a legend!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
@Gregsynthbootlegs Yes indeed, Freddie IS a legend! But we know that doesn't happen overnight.25 to 40 years from now...people could very well be saying the same about Lambert.I won't be around to hear it but MY GHOST will! Hahahaaa! ;D U rock Greg!
queenrosered 1 month ago
Well, he's got the voice to become a legend, now we need some classic Lambert tracks!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
@TheMrMouth OK Mr...you had VERY LITTLE credibility to begin with..this remark wiped even that out.He is a MAN.Just as Freddie, Elton and Rob Halford are MEN.
And you've hit the real crux of the matter..He's NOT FREDDIE! Freddie, is DEAD. As in NOT COMING BACK! Got that?? Adam wasn't trying to BE Freddie or BEAT Freddie...he was fucking ASKED by May and Taylor to HONOR him! What part of THAT do you NOT comprehend? (while thinking of a response, don't forget to breathe) *rolls eyes*
queenrosered 1 month ago
@queenrosered attacking,insulting me for being real is just a primitive life form that you really are, but hey im not going on your level,look at me ,am i angry ;), stay safe and be good girl.
TheMrMouth 1 month ago
@TheMrMouth Ha! There's nothing "safe" about me...the word's not in my vocabulary.As for attacking you....get out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat.Your feeble attempts to demean and mock Mr. Lambert's talent are truly cringe-worthy.The authors/contributors of this video have acknowledged his talent and wouldn't resort to the childish behavior you exhibit.So give it a rest, Gremlin.Finally...why assume I'm FEMALE? Or "young"? Ohhh, right..not the sharpest knife, etc... ;D
queenrosered 1 month ago
@queenrosered Im going slightly mad but i have somebody to love and you can only attack me for being myself,Im the champion here and you are rushing headlong but there must be more to life than this so god bless you and i only have one vision, to see you all trolls dead on time! ;)
TheMrMouth 1 month ago
I think greg and tss have touched too sensitive nerves. I enjoy these comments. haha
chrisys93 1 month ago
Only the fanboys are sensitive! Imagine if I did a video about Japan 1979!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
6 people hit's the wrong botton
ROBINAMK5 1 month ago
LOL.
Nah, it's fine!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
@genome38 I agree mostly with you, genome.But actually...the original poster, has TRIED (most of the time) to be fair/objective to/about Lambert.But he's SUCH a fan of Queen & of Freddie in particular, that it's like asking a father to judge a beauty contest OBJECTIVELY, when his own daughter is a contestant. IMPOSSIBLE!
The official Queen website has a poll that ends tomorrow for who did the best Q+ collab ever. Lambert now has OVER 93% of votes.(Sorry Greg, U guys R off base on this,IMO)
queenrosered 1 month ago
If people vote for this, that's perfectly fine. I'm not against Lambert doing performances with Queen! I just didn't like THIS performance!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
@queenrosered Well, thanks for replying to my DELETED comment. This guy is so insecure he has deleted my comments, yet he over-comments on his own video. What I see here is a campaign to try to label Adam as a "pitchy" singer. He has been beating this drum now for two weeks.All during Idol, Idol tour, Adam's promo & GN tour, and the VERY long original Adam thread on DDD, and the "new" one up to now, this never was an issue. But, Adam sang with Queen, and people liked it, and he cannot stand it.
genome38 1 month ago
I don't delete comments. I got a reply from "queenrosered" and saw her comment below. She linked your name into it, but I never saw your comment on the video. I don't even know what your original comment said--but queenrose agreed with it. I don't delete comments
And quite frankly, you don't seem to understand a few things. There's no campaign to label anybody anything. This was a REQUEST by my SUBSCRIBERS for me to make this video (since they were attacked by fanboys of Adam).
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
As far as pitchy, yes--Adam WAS pitchy on the songs, but that's not slamming Lambert. That's simply being objective. If you follow my channel, I've made plenty of observations on Freddie's live performances and I can tell you just about anything about them (notes, phrasing, vocal problems, etc). The problem is that Adam's fans see any criticism towards Adam's music/performance as the worst thing ever--and will hunt you down (and sometimes block you off his videos). I allow all opinions on here.
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
As far as the insecurity thing, I don't think I'm insecure: I never delete comments, anyone can voice their opinions, etc. Quite frankly, you seem to be pretty insecure yourself (hiding your channel from people, and your general negative attitude towards people).
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
@genome38 While I have seen a few "pitchy" comments here & there genome...again, not ALL "experts" agree there either. An OPERA EXPERT, Angelina Kalahari has quite a few DETAILED breakdowns of Adam's various performances on Sound Bath..Google them & listen. She has performed for the Royal Family by Royal command & also TEACHES music. I trust HER analysis best.She goes deeper into his technique also. ENJOY! ;D
queenrosered 1 month ago
I don't know anything about Adam's technique (other than being superb), so I'm an open book. All I know is notes and pitch!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
@Gregsynthbootlegs Awwww, C'Mon Greg! You don't even know those, LOL! I'm KIDDING of course! Angelina, as an actual opera singer herself AND a music instructor goes onto some depth about his breathing, phrasing, emoting, register switches and blending, as well as resonance and tone.She only flew from the UK to hear him LIVE in New Orleans after several friends mentioned how awesome his vocals were and she watched many YouTubes (ie: Brigadoon, Is Anybody Listening) and (cont)
queenrosered 1 month ago
@Gregsynthbootlegs (cont) went to TWO more live concerts before jetting back to UK.There, she has kept up with his live performances, as she did a "review" Of "Outlaws of Love" too. I know that you respect his talent but we disagree about him being as pitchy as you allege.Is he EVER off-pitch? Ha! Of course, as they ALL are live at times.But not as off and not as often as you seem to think..IMHO. I'd rate his overall pitch as above average in his tier, even if not the BEST. ;D
queenrosered 1 month ago
Of course he's not pitchy on EVERY performance! On some of his performances, his pitch gets off, but on others, it's pretty spot on.
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 month ago
I'm loving the debates/comments so far! Keep it up!
Gregsynthbootlegs 2 months ago
Listen to my opinion as you all say you respect opinions.Adam Lambert doesnt have beautifull voice,it doesnt fit in Queen songs,its iritating with vibrato and he allways over singing. Think what you think but i dont like that kind of voices and screams, Ian Gillan in his early days could make a high note that Adam could only dreamed and Gillan is known for his screams(better than A.L), that doesnt make him better than Freddie or Bruce Dickinson, etc.. High notes doesnt deliver best singers?!
TheMrMouth 2 months ago
I agree that he doesn't fit well with Queen's material! He does have a tendency to oversing/over-do the vocals on some of his cover versions (which depending on the song, either works or doesn't work), and his vibrato is pretty un-controlled at times.
I also agree that range doesn't determine the best singers!
Gregsynthbootlegs 2 months ago
@Gregsynthbootlegs Again Greg, the WAY he chooses to utilize his vibrato is part and parcel of how HE interprets a song.It's also VERY controlled.For example.. listen to the many versions of "Mad World"...you'll hear it used VERY effectively on the word "nervous" when he sings " I was very NERVOUS" Freddie had very little vibrato. You're used to it.It's also part of Adam's technique/training. I love it myself. I'd say his vibrato is more like Orbison's.Different songs tho. ;D
queenrosered 1 month ago
@queenrosered Why should we watch Mad World ,or your Adam Lambert, im going to se real rock music and singers not goats.. ;)
TheMrMouth 1 month ago