The taxes collected in the special service tax district should have always stayed in the areas it was collected. There are several "general fund" projects that have been created with no thought of the north side residents. The wolf creek amphitheater is a prime example. Some of the general fund expenditures should make some of the north side taxpayers a little upset. I would challenge anyone that reads this to look a few of the high dollar general fund items up.
The taxes lost from these cities forming was from the "special tax district" This tax is collected from the citizens of all the unincorporated areas of the county. It is meant to pay for police, fire, roads, and all other government provided services. This is the tax that Fulton County lost from these areas. The money that was collected for this area was being shipped to south Fulton. This was not the only answer, but it is a solution to a problem that has been ongoing for years.
I support Sandy Spr. I am sick of black dems always looking at what the racial component of something is. I am black and support outsourcing. Yes it comes with problems,but its worth a try.
@swedenowns1 When you grow up in a subjugated minority group, provided with few positive role models, in the poor part of town, where you have little access to resources like books and decent food, the odds of your escaping poverty and crime are SEVERELY reduced. Look up Jane Elliott's blue eyes/brown eyes experiment -- when normally bright & happy children are placed in a subordinate group they underperform IMMEDIATELY, not in a week or a year.
@swedenowns1 The countries in Africa are "like that" (I'm assuming you're not referring to the African countries that are actually doing well, like Botswana, because, no doubt, you've never heard of those) because of colonialism, neo-colonialism, poverty, ethnic nationalism, and AIDS.
American Evangelical assholes going over there to spread their ignorance and homophobia isn't helping the continent much either.
@Wilsontheterrible No, I think you're mistaking the motto of Wall Street and every major corporation getting huge public subsidies at the same time they're making record profits.
@zammmerjammer You mean the government backed corporations that should have been left to liquidate? Cut subsidies, privatize, and decentralize. Sandy Springs is a success but it's only one step in what needs to be a much larger effort to get away from government dependency and put responsibility back on the shoulders of individuals.
@Wilsontheterrible Right. Because corporations are such shining examples of "taking responsibility" when they fuck up, as they regularly do. Wildly profitable corporations should not be getting tax breaks and public subsidies when they behave with ZERO responsibility.
Corporations only have accountability to their shareholders and to the bottom line, not the citizens of the communities in which they operate. When they actually operate a community itself to whom are they responsible?
@zammmerjammer Governments taken responsibility out of the equation. Its created an environment that befits those that match its interests and the results are pseudo-governmental corporations like Fannie and Freddie that have wrecked the system for everybody. Corporations, under normal market conditions, obey the laws of supply, demand, and interest and exist at the whim of the consumer. Thanks to the free money provided by the Fed and the bailouts from DC the rules that should reign dont exist.
Throughout this video, the people are complaining about tax revenues from other people not being present to fund THEIR needs and wants. That is an entitlement mentality if I've ever seen one. Why should someone else's income have to pay the bill for their family and yours? No one has an inherent right to someone else's money poor or otherwise. I do blame the Fulton government for not putting in place the economic climate for growth. Also the Federal Government for their broken education system.
@LibertarianINT "Entitlement"? You're talking about the rich and their belief that only their needs should be met and to hell with everyone else, right?
If you live in a community and everyone does, who benefits from starving the poor and the sick? Everyone benefits from living in a society where all have access to good education and health services. It's not "entitlement" -- it's justice. All people help build a society, why shouldn't all have access to the benefits?
So... Governments soul purpose is suppose to be charity? This whole video reeks of "we want other peoples money" rhetoric. I watched this with an open mind, sorry, I'm not convinced. It didn't even address the real nugget in this story: cost savings between a traditionally managed city vs one that has it's services contracted out.
@scrappmutt2 That's the same thing I was thinking. The video insinuates that racism made the cities incorporate because they did not want to fund the poor black population through tax charity. Why in the world should they have to fund other people with their tax money in the first place? This video can only reach those who believe the poor are entitled to the fruits of someone else's labor.
@LibertarianINT A fair tax code isn't "charity". And "entitled to the fruits of someone else's labour"? Yeah, that perfectly describes upper-management and CEOs who give themselves million-dollar bonuses while cutting the jobs of their own workforce.
Sadly, you seem to be under the illusion that poor people don't work as hard as rich people, when the opposite is true.
The poor areas in Fulton County are government operated. If the government can and will do the best for the citizens, it would not be so. Is it truly racism? Is it not just a coincidence, or, a correlation that the well off areas adopt free market principles while the poorer areas don't? Detroit has been under progressive rule and has only gotten progressively worse. It's about time problems stopped being chalked up to racism. If I blamed everything on racism, I'd have no drive.
Al Jazeera, you are such pitiful people. Trying to incite the very, very, very small percentage of US people that are freeloaders and America haters.
If you really cared about Islam you would spend your time and energy trying to improve your own people's lives. The US is so generous to Islam it pours billions of dollars a year into your countries. But your ruling elite class just lines it's own pockets. That is where you need to focus your hate.
@Tougemaster06 thats not exactly true. what is true is that, excepting countries that we currently occupy, the largest beneficiary of US foreign 'aid' is by far israel
As I continue to look to our government, the bank crisis,homeland security (cough) and other examples of capitalism, privatisation run amok with the divide between social classes becoming chasms it is no longer the fear of "Big Government" that concerns me as they answer to the people. as long as we demand transparency we have a safety net of sorts.In privatisation oligarchy will not only be our future, corrupt enterprise will be free to hide behind a constitutional right to privacy .Alarming!
I personally think it's time to thin the herd anyway,if rich people want their own town let them,they deserve it,poor people are just a cancer on society anyways.
Rich people want to separate themselves from poor, and they are 100% correct. It's their right. And what is the reaction of black representatives shown in the clip? They threaten that if whites stop giving them money for free, there will be more violence. That's the reaction of people who are accustomed to donations and can't earn themselves! They shouldn't get a penny from residents of cities such as Sandy Springs!
One of the most interest things I saw. I just have a question. Isn't this idea of privitized cities, conflicting with the fact enterprises search for profit, and in some public services this is not possible, or the earnings are not remarkable?
@2204Alpha Why stop at fire and police? Those can be privatized just as well, imagine how great the police would behave if they could actually lose their job, and not get "paid vacation" when they shoot someone.
it's funny and disgusting that they chose to do this in the black belt of the US.(black belt means the part of the country that has the highest black people in the population). theres going to be a revolt!!!!! its only a matter of time!!!!!!
This report is like "sour grapes". It bothers the reporter that the people of Sandy Springs have "a sense of calm". We have to share the misery! They should be ashamed of themselves for what they have achieved. "They just got it too good! It ain't right!" LOL
The whole report lacks any presentation of the facts. Can we hear some hard numbers on the amount of revenue "loss" by Fulton County. Why doesn't Fulton County hire this private company to run their services. Maybe they could then afford to hire back the firemen who were laid off. Al Jazeera sounds like it's run by a bunch of liberal racist robin hoods who go around counting black and white heads. Everything is about race now, who cares about reason or facts?
It's not a matter of "Getting along." It's a matter of systematic inequality and repression for both poor blacks and whites, as well as other ethnic groups.
Notice that the only person in the video who mentions anything about race is the reporter. Also, if you look up the demographics of sandy springs, the city is 12% black, meaning that one out of every eight people in sandy springs is black. This is not an issue of racial segregation.
The company doesn't own anything. They are paid by the government to come in and provide a service. If the company doesn't do its job, the city quits buying from them and the company is gone.
Great idea!I'm going to privatize my kid nurturing: I will be substituted part time for a low paid efficient father that will teach my kid her first words.I'm sure it will work just fine
u have some imagination,please Privatization is not the answer to every problem in city management. Maybe there are other solutions:have you thought of collective decisions on spending?Would it be impossible for a neighborhood of 2.000 people to decide over how to spend the money in their community?
If you've decided that would be the best arrangement for you and your child then why not? I mean isn't that what nannies are for?
And what you're referring to is pretty much what is happening here, the people of the community of sandy springs got together and decided that ch2m is more competent at providing public services than the county. Capitalism is not anti-communitarianism.
@blueskycomplex seems like a good idea the only problem is for those employed as contract workers. lower wages, lack of insurance possibly (waiting to see how the new bill changes that) and a lack of permanent structure like you standard local government.
I am a contractor, i work abroad. they sell the same pitch to clients where ever i go. same issues always arise, no system is perfect.
if i was the president i would put high import/export tax on them not to mention disqualifying US's tax money going to the company (privet contractors)
in 6-8 month the privet contractor will be fucked up
the idea of privatizing services is great, but what the government is doing is handing over the running of services to a monopoly. this is even worse than the government running it, as the monopoly is profit motivated. i.e. the monopoly will increase prices without you being able to do anything.
i don't see whats wrong, i don't get people who are trying to play the race card( am black). people out of sandy springs are probably just jealous. South Fulton should get a corporation to run it too. there is no need to cry like babies because someone does not want to give you there money, try making your own.
the danger is what happens when corporations get too much power, the army is already 40% private what next. privatise the presidency. the future looks dark.
U know I don't see anything wrong either. I don't make enough to lvie here but you know what, there are so many openy segragated Black American from the rest of the world so there are a number of black only places for ppl to call and see if those organizations will assist them. There are so many minority only and this is crazy, i know fro a fact plenty of lighter skinned ppl are there and as poor!
And then i look at whats going on Job cuts , companies liquidating .shops closing , but Massive 16 story buildings are being built , cranes everywhere >FOR WHAT REASON ?
We need to vote out the Republicans and Democrats. Hemp and the constitution can put everyone on common ground. The NWO is dividing everyone for profit. Send the constitution to Washington!
To watch this video and read the comments, I have come to my own conclusion as a employee of a Municipal government. My opinion is from a employee and citizens point of view. As an employee living in a city that I work. I take more pride in what I do. I want to make sure that my city is taken care of. That my neighbors are happy. I think privitation of City government is politicians being selfish and citizens not thinking about their city as a whole.
I live in Sandy Springs, therefore i am a rich white affluent racist that is trying to re-segregate Atlanta. This is the biggest bunch of bull on the internet. there are plenty of blacks in sandy springs. We have run down apartments we have gang violence we have crime we have graffiti on our buildings. If sandy springs wanted to shut out underpriveliged non-whites then they would shut down the marta station
to the people at talking from 7:15 on, if they can't pay for themselves, they don't deserve the money from sandy springs. they sound like they are saying we can't provide for ourselves, so send us money. then they play the race, disabled, etc cards to try to gain sympathy. typical uneducated, democratic rhetoric. this is a microcosm of the entire country!
By the way, the video clips for "trickle down" were excellent and made the whole thing worth watching. I'm sure these hacks searched far and wide for a water feature made of black marble, but sadly came up empty-handed.
It would have been a nice gesture for Emma Darnell to build one of her government senior citizens' centers in Sandy Springs rather than all in South Fulton. She never gave a damn about North Fulton -- except about their money.
South Fulton County has 6 cities in it, ever heard of East Point, College Park, Union City, Fairburn, Chattahoochee Hill Country??? All of these are cities in south Fulton county with their own police, fire, city governments just like north Fulton county now has. North Fulton was tired of paying for everyone else in the county so they created Sandy Springs, Milton, and Johns Creek and this is their right.
The City of Sandy Springs is a lawfully elected city with mayor and counsil members, municipal court, police, fire, roads dept. etc. Its the best thing thats happened to this area.
Its a joke to say Sandy Springs is a community of gated neighborhoods. Sandy Springs has a gang problem, armed robberies, drug dealers, low income apartments, etc. This is part of the reason they have their own police force, fulton county just wasnt doing their job.
What a joke this "news report" is. Trying to stir up racial warfare. Fulton County is the most currupt in Georgia and probably top 10 or 20 in the US. Fulton Co. has so many socialist welfare handout programs and elected official padding their pockets that they needed someone to pay for it so they taxed the hell out of North Fulton. North Fulton communities saw massive tax increases every year with less county services. Do the research. Read Atlas Shrugged and look at America
Ask Mussolini; Corporation+Government= FASCISM!!! WAKE UP! And we have people freaking out about Democrtic Socialism??? i want my freakin country back!! NOW!!
Yes, Mussolini said: "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."
And Abraham Lincoln also warned: "I see in the near future a crisis. . . . Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people, until wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the republic is destroyed.
At 13:10 the journalists says something like "two starkly different visions". What bullshit. It's one vision. You want a comparison look somewhere else in the world for a region to compare with. Earlier he says "two dreams". Its the same damn dream.
I think you should be getting the point that these things happen and that you need to move on if that means moving to a different place or having to penny pinch then so be it. It may be more difficult for several years but it will get better and not stay permanent. Sure some kids may struggle with their academeics but guess what that happends. Sure people may no longer be able to afford housing in their area, guess what that happends, move to a different area.
"Privatization" is simply placing ALL control of the "masses" into the hands of the wealthy.
They have been working on this for many many years.
Using tax free "social foundations" (think tanks designed to harness & direct our colleges, universities, media and social "trends"), the transnationalist investors/bankers have decided to take away our Constitutional "rights" through absorbtion. (Wars aren't working for them.)
Once the subjugation is complete the "little people" will be dead meat.
Don't beg for THEIR money - organize yourselves and make YOUR community better (by any means necessary) with or without them - make your OWN money (that is what an OWNER does)...
By letting ONE private corporation run your entire city you are opening a pandora's box (mark my words)...
What a lot of nerve that so called interviewer calling the prodominently white town selfish and greedy. There living there lives. What about the envyist and unproductive blacks down there? Privatised cities like Sandy Spring is not reason why blacks down there are struggling. Detriot, New Orleans, Chicago, etc have a majority black population and they still live in crime ridden areas without the excuse of Privatisation. So tell me another one.
that fuckin white dude is a douchebag... ive always talked about we need to succeed from the union... but not for selfish racist fascist like views.....
This is the dream and aim of the Republican Party: the Balkanization of America, along racial and economic lines. Absolutely disgusting. They're not even "conservative" anymore -- they are regressive.
so now corporations control the city? hmmm, socialism yum. If they wanted to leave a county, then sure do it, but government should not be a business. Business models do not serve people well, they serve profit well.
You have a misguided idea of what socialism is. In a socialist society, the corporation doesn't run government, but the government runs the corporation.
dude, avi lewis had to go because he was rejected by the canadian audience. Take a look at the people wo stay on at CBC, they are top notch interviewers. Go look up some of the interviews lewis conducted while at CBC.. for example his richard dawkins interview.
It's a disgrace. That avi lewis is on the same channel with someone like say, riz khan is a joke.
Well juxtaposed with Riz, they just do different types of things. I'd say if it weren't for Avi there wouldn't have been near as much coverage on a lot of the things he covered, and it's not just him, but the projects he gets involved in on AJE. I could start listing them off, but I think they're obvious, this is a tremendously important show.
But you're just wrong about what happened. Avi Lewis got fed up with the CBC. He couldn't deal with it anymore.
But it is interesting to me that Al-Jazeera performs a much better job at reporting and informing the public than CNN, MSNBC, Faux News, or any other of the major American news outlets are doing. Imagine that: news reported in a more objective manner and discussions about news topics rather than yelling and demeaning guests with opposing views.
True. it does, but I am starting to notice the arab slant. I can be cogniscent of the unbelievable venal and brutal US foreign policy in the mid east without have to embrace their OTHER Abrahamist Islamic worldview. same-disgusting-same-disgusting.
Oh I dunno. I am intolerant toward all religion and superstitious belief. I am not selecting any particular group. All the Abrahamists; Muslims, Christians and Jews share a brutal, insane barbaric ignorant 'iron age' view of the world. The only thing that's changed in me lately, is I no longer have the politically correct tolerance for 'moderates.' Moderate religion is insidious and has been a giant obstacle to humanity.
Avi Lewis's wife, Naomi Klein, was the keynote speaker of "Alliance of Concerned Jewish Canadians (ACJC) - look up "Don't Act Normal" on Youtube for proof.
Avi is the son of two Jewish parents who married the daughter of two Jewish parents. I presume that some of the people who moved over from the BBC to Aljazeera are Christian. I think this answers your question.
Remember that CEO who said the city was like a blank slate - NK talks about that both in video and in her book The Shock Doctrine.
Thank you for taking my question as a a...question! And Thanks for your kind reply. some people thought my query was my statement! They of course labelled me anti-Semitic. Since more than 95% of the jews in Israel and 90% of the jews worldwide are 'Ashkenazik' jews and therby not Semitic, even if I was against them as a whole that would not make me anti-Semitic. I find corporate privatisation more scary and disgusting than religion. The future wars will be wars of privatisation.
Why is it that a foreign news source was the only one that reported this story. This country is screwed. Things are going to have to get a lot worse before it gets better. They say america is the land of the individual. It is also the land of the jerk.
Because it isn't news, considering this has been done before in the history of this country of USA, you know those coal mining towns....they basically owned every single thing in the town, the schools, the businesses, the supplies for those business. So this country is screwed because of a city like this?
Exactly, this has been done before and it didn't bring down the USA, so no one in the USA really cares because its not really a threat to its society.
We don't know whether anyone cares or not because no one is being told.
Harper misrepresenting Obama's position on NAFTA (ie NAFTA-gate) would not have been a big deal if no one in the US cares about mass plant closures. If a plant leaves (or goes under) then no one has jobs. If a company which owns the city leaves (or goes under) no electricity, running water, schools, police etc. If it happens all across America at once - it is a threat.
Search youtube for Lou Dobbs Jack Layton some time.
The real reason why no one really cares is because that status is not permanent. The average american spends 6-9months in poverty in their life time. If a mass plant closes people will be concerned but they also know that in the future another business is going to move in, it might take several months to years but the point being is that it isn't permanent state. If a company owns a city and leaves or goes under guess what that means, everyone moves to a different location.
That was the philosophy behind the sub-prime lending scandal where people pay reasonable rates for two years and then the mortgage goes up more than they can afford - that no one really cares if a few people can't pay their mortgages - they go bankrupt, they recover and then eventually buy that house.
Chrysler closes, Wal-Mart moves in. One will never be able to pay those high rents working at Wal-Mart - safe affordable housing disappears and you have no safe place to call home. (cont)
You have working folk losing the homes they can afford to those building new homes they can't afford. If this happens across the country, they will eventually have no affordable place to live. When this happens elsewhere, you see families who grew up with electricity and in door plumbing eventually not having those things and literacy rates going down - making it harder for their children to move up. You then get people figuring that working doesn't pay and crime goes up.
lol dude this isn't a domino affect. Not every business is suddendly going to fall. I doubt that about no affordable homes considering how much housing prices have dropped.Its a buyers market right now. Guess what buddy you don't need electricity and plumbing to learn, how do you think people became literate back in the 1700's? Dude this isn't the end of the world calm down.You do realize that if enough people go unemployed or if their salaries lower enough inflation actually reverses itself.
And whose fault was it for taking those mortgages and not knowing about the rate hikes? Ya that happends when you get a lower paying job you can't afford things like you used to. get used to it.
Maybe since Stephane Dion is retiring, he has time to write a Clarity Act for Mortgages. If you don't understand the Mortgage contract, you are forced to depend on those who do.
Government policy influences when a large number of people can no longer afford the lifestyle where you can comfortably raise a family without sacrificing necessities.
In my opinion, a child having books to call their own is a necessity. So is a computer in this day and age if you think of it.
I wasn't thinking about crime, but a door with a decent lock would be nice. I am talking more along the lines of a place which doesn't threaten your physical health. When homes in your economic bracket are slim pickings, what you choose may not be safe to live in. Lack of plumbing in cities tends to lead to plagues historically.
When one works, one shouldn't have to live in a tent, and some working people do that because they can't afford the rents. No room for a lot of books.
Very interesting. I'm still unsure how less privileged communities can survive if the wealth is concentrated in privileged areas. It seems if privitasation and deregulation become the norm across the country, there will be a starker contrast between the poor and the rich. There will be no middle class, just rich and poor. Maybe I'm wrong... Really insightful video though.
It's called economic mobility, without access to the basic services such as a safe environment, education and health, people won't have the environment to better themselves. A class society, and I would say not good for a free capitalist country. Also to the person who said the poor should go look for jobs instead of complaining, you will soon see sweatshops within America, the poor being taken advantange and given the bare minimum for existence will live right next to the rich.
The taxes collected in the special service tax district should have always stayed in the areas it was collected. There are several "general fund" projects that have been created with no thought of the north side residents. The wolf creek amphitheater is a prime example. Some of the general fund expenditures should make some of the north side taxpayers a little upset. I would challenge anyone that reads this to look a few of the high dollar general fund items up.
eddie1481 3 months ago
The taxes lost from these cities forming was from the "special tax district" This tax is collected from the citizens of all the unincorporated areas of the county. It is meant to pay for police, fire, roads, and all other government provided services. This is the tax that Fulton County lost from these areas. The money that was collected for this area was being shipped to south Fulton. This was not the only answer, but it is a solution to a problem that has been ongoing for years.
eddie1481 3 months ago
I support Sandy Spr. I am sick of black dems always looking at what the racial component of something is. I am black and support outsourcing. Yes it comes with problems,but its worth a try.
biblefarce 5 months ago
They won't privatize police because they are still very worried what could happen. Maybe in time....after years of this model working.
mrbigtruth34 7 months ago
Someone expalin how it is always the black who are the poor? are the blacks more stupid then whites and dont study, get good grades, good jobs...
swedenowns1 8 months ago
@swedenowns1 Um, do you know anything about the history of the USA? Like, anything at all...?
zammmerjammer 7 months ago
@zammmerjammer The blacks were opressed and all that but is that a reason why blacks children of today are stupid
Its not that they go to poor schools, is that few of them get good grades no matter where thy study
Blacks are worse, just look at africa and domnt tell me all the countries in africa are like that because of slavery
swedenowns1 7 months ago
@swedenowns1 When you grow up in a subjugated minority group, provided with few positive role models, in the poor part of town, where you have little access to resources like books and decent food, the odds of your escaping poverty and crime are SEVERELY reduced. Look up Jane Elliott's blue eyes/brown eyes experiment -- when normally bright & happy children are placed in a subordinate group they underperform IMMEDIATELY, not in a week or a year.
zammmerjammer 7 months ago
@swedenowns1 The countries in Africa are "like that" (I'm assuming you're not referring to the African countries that are actually doing well, like Botswana, because, no doubt, you've never heard of those) because of colonialism, neo-colonialism, poverty, ethnic nationalism, and AIDS.
American Evangelical assholes going over there to spread their ignorance and homophobia isn't helping the continent much either.
zammmerjammer 7 months ago
Ah, good old al-jizz-ear-a propaganda for the stupid.
arkivx1 9 months ago
South Fulton's arguement basically boils down to "We deserve your money."
Wilsontheterrible 9 months ago
@Wilsontheterrible No, I think you're mistaking the motto of Wall Street and every major corporation getting huge public subsidies at the same time they're making record profits.
zammmerjammer 7 months ago
@zammmerjammer You mean the government backed corporations that should have been left to liquidate? Cut subsidies, privatize, and decentralize. Sandy Springs is a success but it's only one step in what needs to be a much larger effort to get away from government dependency and put responsibility back on the shoulders of individuals.
Wilsontheterrible 7 months ago
@Wilsontheterrible Right. Because corporations are such shining examples of "taking responsibility" when they fuck up, as they regularly do. Wildly profitable corporations should not be getting tax breaks and public subsidies when they behave with ZERO responsibility.
Corporations only have accountability to their shareholders and to the bottom line, not the citizens of the communities in which they operate. When they actually operate a community itself to whom are they responsible?
zammmerjammer 7 months ago
@zammmerjammer Governments taken responsibility out of the equation. Its created an environment that befits those that match its interests and the results are pseudo-governmental corporations like Fannie and Freddie that have wrecked the system for everybody. Corporations, under normal market conditions, obey the laws of supply, demand, and interest and exist at the whim of the consumer. Thanks to the free money provided by the Fed and the bailouts from DC the rules that should reign dont exist.
Wilsontheterrible 7 months ago
Throughout this video, the people are complaining about tax revenues from other people not being present to fund THEIR needs and wants. That is an entitlement mentality if I've ever seen one. Why should someone else's income have to pay the bill for their family and yours? No one has an inherent right to someone else's money poor or otherwise. I do blame the Fulton government for not putting in place the economic climate for growth. Also the Federal Government for their broken education system.
LibertarianINT 9 months ago 2
@LibertarianINT "Entitlement"? You're talking about the rich and their belief that only their needs should be met and to hell with everyone else, right?
If you live in a community and everyone does, who benefits from starving the poor and the sick? Everyone benefits from living in a society where all have access to good education and health services. It's not "entitlement" -- it's justice. All people help build a society, why shouldn't all have access to the benefits?
zammmerjammer 7 months ago
So... Governments soul purpose is suppose to be charity? This whole video reeks of "we want other peoples money" rhetoric. I watched this with an open mind, sorry, I'm not convinced. It didn't even address the real nugget in this story: cost savings between a traditionally managed city vs one that has it's services contracted out.
scrappmutt2 9 months ago 2
@scrappmutt2 That's the same thing I was thinking. The video insinuates that racism made the cities incorporate because they did not want to fund the poor black population through tax charity. Why in the world should they have to fund other people with their tax money in the first place? This video can only reach those who believe the poor are entitled to the fruits of someone else's labor.
LibertarianINT 9 months ago 2
@LibertarianINT A fair tax code isn't "charity". And "entitled to the fruits of someone else's labour"? Yeah, that perfectly describes upper-management and CEOs who give themselves million-dollar bonuses while cutting the jobs of their own workforce.
Sadly, you seem to be under the illusion that poor people don't work as hard as rich people, when the opposite is true.
zammmerjammer 7 months ago
The poor areas in Fulton County are government operated. If the government can and will do the best for the citizens, it would not be so. Is it truly racism? Is it not just a coincidence, or, a correlation that the well off areas adopt free market principles while the poorer areas don't? Detroit has been under progressive rule and has only gotten progressively worse. It's about time problems stopped being chalked up to racism. If I blamed everything on racism, I'd have no drive.
LibertarianINT 9 months ago 4
the only wrong thing about this neighborhood is that their populated by whites/ republicans
erik4727 11 months ago
@erik4727 Class is compounded by race. Race is the appearance, capital is the essence.
Tougemaster06 11 months ago
@Tougemaster06 Doesnt make me wrong
erik4727 11 months ago
I would be interested to see the difference in costs for mantaining the community when you add in all the fees and tempory employees.
SRT480 11 months ago
Al Jazeera, you are such pitiful people. Trying to incite the very, very, very small percentage of US people that are freeloaders and America haters.
If you really cared about Islam you would spend your time and energy trying to improve your own people's lives. The US is so generous to Islam it pours billions of dollars a year into your countries. But your ruling elite class just lines it's own pockets. That is where you need to focus your hate.
2ARights 11 months ago
@2ARights The majority of US foreign aid goes to Israel.
Tougemaster06 11 months ago
@Tougemaster06 thats not exactly true. what is true is that, excepting countries that we currently occupy, the largest beneficiary of US foreign 'aid' is by far israel
Serduun 10 months ago
As I continue to look to our government, the bank crisis,homeland security (cough) and other examples of capitalism, privatisation run amok with the divide between social classes becoming chasms it is no longer the fear of "Big Government" that concerns me as they answer to the people. as long as we demand transparency we have a safety net of sorts.In privatisation oligarchy will not only be our future, corrupt enterprise will be free to hide behind a constitutional right to privacy .Alarming!
krysteane 11 months ago
I wish I was rich :(
rrrjjjmmm100 1 year ago
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I personally think it's time to thin the herd anyway,if rich people want their own town let them,they deserve it,poor people are just a cancer on society anyways.
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rrrjjjmmm100 1 year ago
welcome to the capocracy- a society simply run off profit
dancthegr 1 year ago
Oh okay. But, the rich are always making the lower and middle classes look like idiots.
shadowgirl9891 1 year ago 2
wow. its like the chartered countries at the beggining of the dawn of the US.
Entiestess 1 year ago
So, the companies are taking money from the low-paying citizens to make new communites for whites. That's messed up!
shadowgirl9891 1 year ago
@shadowgirl9891 low paying citizens don't pay much if any taxes at all.
AllTheSame711 1 year ago
Scary time!!!
Auntkekebaby 1 year ago
If it was the people of the area providing these services it would almost be communism.
Freshhhhh1982 1 year ago
I like the idea.
falcon010216 1 year ago
You see who these guys come crying to when everything goes pear shaped, all good and well till their dollar gets squeezed.
MasterShakeMajor 1 year ago
Rich people want to separate themselves from poor, and they are 100% correct. It's their right. And what is the reaction of black representatives shown in the clip? They threaten that if whites stop giving them money for free, there will be more violence. That's the reaction of people who are accustomed to donations and can't earn themselves! They shouldn't get a penny from residents of cities such as Sandy Springs!
eee333eee3 1 year ago 3
@eee333eee3
I agree, but not so strongly. They are more like, in my assessment, 90% correct.
Entiestess 1 year ago
Eeeeem,i smell civil class war in USA.15 years from now
estorpai 1 year ago
can you say islamic propaganda??
dandan121000 2 years ago 2
USA is poor man,runned by criminals,former slave masters(illuminatti)
estorpai 1 year ago
@estorpai Communism is run by crooks, terrorists, paedophiles, assassins and the illuminatti
Rocketeer1001 1 year ago 3
One of the most interest things I saw. I just have a question. Isn't this idea of privitized cities, conflicting with the fact enterprises search for profit, and in some public services this is not possible, or the earnings are not remarkable?
mablus 2 years ago
Funny how Sandy Springs has saved millions by doing this, this reported thinks government is the answer to everything.
This city also has a large Hispanic population, this isnt some white mecca, it borders the City of Atlanta.
The citizens of this city WANT privatized services (with the exception of police and fire).
This is a good idea and its obviously worked.
2204Alpha 2 years ago 7
@2204Alpha
> The citizens of this city WANT privatized services (with the exception of police and fire).
Why make any exception?
garouHH 8 months ago
@2204Alpha Why stop at fire and police? Those can be privatized just as well, imagine how great the police would behave if they could actually lose their job, and not get "paid vacation" when they shoot someone.
CNCAddict 3 months ago
it's funny and disgusting that they chose to do this in the black belt of the US.(black belt means the part of the country that has the highest black people in the population). theres going to be a revolt!!!!! its only a matter of time!!!!!!
davinG11 2 years ago
This report is like "sour grapes". It bothers the reporter that the people of Sandy Springs have "a sense of calm". We have to share the misery! They should be ashamed of themselves for what they have achieved. "They just got it too good! It ain't right!" LOL
buellm21200 2 years ago 2
The whole report lacks any presentation of the facts. Can we hear some hard numbers on the amount of revenue "loss" by Fulton County. Why doesn't Fulton County hire this private company to run their services. Maybe they could then afford to hire back the firemen who were laid off. Al Jazeera sounds like it's run by a bunch of liberal racist robin hoods who go around counting black and white heads. Everything is about race now, who cares about reason or facts?
ftsmallwood 2 years ago 4
wow. legalized tax evasion, that's brilliant. why haven't the rich jumped on this?
k0jak37 2 years ago
why does america have such a problem with race even after obama waas elected i mean can you guys not just get along!
LecceDiPane 2 years ago
It's not a matter of "Getting along." It's a matter of systematic inequality and repression for both poor blacks and whites, as well as other ethnic groups.
ManoftheBeret 2 years ago 2
Notice that the only person in the video who mentions anything about race is the reporter. Also, if you look up the demographics of sandy springs, the city is 12% black, meaning that one out of every eight people in sandy springs is black. This is not an issue of racial segregation.
blueskycomplex 2 years ago
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snowmanZER0 2 years ago
The company doesn't own anything. They are paid by the government to come in and provide a service. If the company doesn't do its job, the city quits buying from them and the company is gone.
Have some imagination.
blueskycomplex 2 years ago 4
Great idea!I'm going to privatize my kid nurturing: I will be substituted part time for a low paid efficient father that will teach my kid her first words.I'm sure it will work just fine
u have some imagination,please Privatization is not the answer to every problem in city management. Maybe there are other solutions:have you thought of collective decisions on spending?Would it be impossible for a neighborhood of 2.000 people to decide over how to spend the money in their community?
palaciodeinvierno 2 years ago
If you've decided that would be the best arrangement for you and your child then why not? I mean isn't that what nannies are for?
And what you're referring to is pretty much what is happening here, the people of the community of sandy springs got together and decided that ch2m is more competent at providing public services than the county. Capitalism is not anti-communitarianism.
blueskycomplex 2 years ago 2
@blueskycomplex seems like a good idea the only problem is for those employed as contract workers. lower wages, lack of insurance possibly (waiting to see how the new bill changes that) and a lack of permanent structure like you standard local government.
I am a contractor, i work abroad. they sell the same pitch to clients where ever i go. same issues always arise, no system is perfect.
SRT480 11 months ago
@blueskycomplex
Only a libertarian could be so naive
blackflagisbetter 10 months ago
u will mow u lown castrate ,what u are not men enough to do some mowing,mow boy mow.racist sucker
radostp 2 years ago
Eventually there will actually be wars between companies, not nations.
InsideLosAngeles 2 years ago
The "firms" just keep mutating from one form to another: family, tribe, race, religion, class, city, nation, empire.
..and all because those bland fuckwits want to live in Disney planet.
Horrid.
timboslayer 2 years ago
if i was the president i would put high import/export tax on them not to mention disqualifying US's tax money going to the company (privet contractors)
in 6-8 month the privet contractor will be fucked up
NoFearUpIoads3 2 years ago
reality is real
fantasy is fake
elliotcheely 2 years ago
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The African Americans in this video are low life scumbags, who want handouts from white people.
744682532 2 years ago
the idea of privatizing services is great, but what the government is doing is handing over the running of services to a monopoly. this is even worse than the government running it, as the monopoly is profit motivated. i.e. the monopoly will increase prices without you being able to do anything.
gohomeman123 2 years ago
Welcome to actually-existing capitalism.
niriafanorev 2 years ago 17
@niriafanorev why would south fulton not incorporate itself?
meghaljani 9 months ago
The bad thing about privatizing services is exacly that
ImperialGuard9001 2 years ago
If prices get too high, the people can simply stop paying them and seek alternatives.
drewmandan 2 years ago 3
What a disgusting idea and what a disgustingly ignorant, greedy man...I hope the name "sandy springs" turns out to be prophetic!
johnthekeane 2 years ago
How can one just be so embarrisingly greedy for other people's money?
I hope that the inhabitants of Sandy Springs will keep on fighting for what belongs to them.
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horsruldaworld 2 years ago
This is an odd video. I havebeen to Ga many times and there are some seriously rich black ppl and some seriously poor whites.
88INSIGHT88 2 years ago 2
i don't see whats wrong, i don't get people who are trying to play the race card( am black). people out of sandy springs are probably just jealous. South Fulton should get a corporation to run it too. there is no need to cry like babies because someone does not want to give you there money, try making your own.
the danger is what happens when corporations get too much power, the army is already 40% private what next. privatise the presidency. the future looks dark.
pmpanga 2 years ago
U know I don't see anything wrong either. I don't make enough to lvie here but you know what, there are so many openy segragated Black American from the rest of the world so there are a number of black only places for ppl to call and see if those organizations will assist them. There are so many minority only and this is crazy, i know fro a fact plenty of lighter skinned ppl are there and as poor!
88INSIGHT88 2 years ago
This is anarchism only for the rich.
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aewester 2 years ago
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And then i look at whats going on Job cuts , companies liquidating .shops closing , but Massive 16 story buildings are being built , cranes everywhere >FOR WHAT REASON ?
And FOR WHO ? and WHY ? can any one answer THIS ?
Davewakeham 2 years ago
@Davewakeham I know this is 2 years late but.
It's none of your business FOR WHAT REASON, WHY, or WHO.
Have a nice day.
arkivx1 9 months ago
@arkivx1 so spreading trends are none of my business are they not ? ohh well , not in my back yard
Davewakeham 9 months ago
I would not have watched this if I knew that theTraitor Jane "Cocksucker" Fonda was going to be in this
gamehound83 2 years ago
We need to vote out the Republicans and Democrats. Hemp and the constitution can put everyone on common ground. The NWO is dividing everyone for profit. Send the constitution to Washington!
DrReaper 2 years ago
this totally reminds me of RoboCop. when OCP was buying out Detroit
808bourn11 2 years ago 5
Libertarian power! Destroy socialism and etatism.
Robas1987 2 years ago 2
To watch this video and read the comments, I have come to my own conclusion as a employee of a Municipal government. My opinion is from a employee and citizens point of view. As an employee living in a city that I work. I take more pride in what I do. I want to make sure that my city is taken care of. That my neighbors are happy. I think privitation of City government is politicians being selfish and citizens not thinking about their city as a whole.
AVSC77 2 years ago
I dont like towns with this theme usually but this place is run decently for sure.
slatanigger 2 years ago
In corporations we trust.
What could possibly go wrong?
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kunnublog 3 years ago
I live in Sandy Springs, therefore i am a rich white affluent racist that is trying to re-segregate Atlanta. This is the biggest bunch of bull on the internet. there are plenty of blacks in sandy springs. We have run down apartments we have gang violence we have crime we have graffiti on our buildings. If sandy springs wanted to shut out underpriveliged non-whites then they would shut down the marta station
jambrochill 3 years ago
by the way johhn stossel could do a great piece on this whole thing from a libertarian point of view. this report is so slanted to the left
DominationCorp 3 years ago 2
to the people at talking from 7:15 on, if they can't pay for themselves, they don't deserve the money from sandy springs. they sound like they are saying we can't provide for ourselves, so send us money. then they play the race, disabled, etc cards to try to gain sympathy. typical uneducated, democratic rhetoric. this is a microcosm of the entire country!
DominationCorp 3 years ago
By the way, the video clips for "trickle down" were excellent and made the whole thing worth watching. I'm sure these hacks searched far and wide for a water feature made of black marble, but sadly came up empty-handed.
jacquesazz 3 years ago
"What are They going to do for Us?" Typical.
It would have been a nice gesture for Emma Darnell to build one of her government senior citizens' centers in Sandy Springs rather than all in South Fulton. She never gave a damn about North Fulton -- except about their money.
Paybacks are hell.
jacquesazz 3 years ago
South Fulton County has 6 cities in it, ever heard of East Point, College Park, Union City, Fairburn, Chattahoochee Hill Country??? All of these are cities in south Fulton county with their own police, fire, city governments just like north Fulton county now has. North Fulton was tired of paying for everyone else in the county so they created Sandy Springs, Milton, and Johns Creek and this is their right.
2204Alpha 3 years ago
The city uses this company to assist in hiring road workers, and getting permits.
There are over 400 full time government employee that work for Sandy Springs.
2204Alpha 3 years ago
The City of Sandy Springs is a lawfully elected city with mayor and counsil members, municipal court, police, fire, roads dept. etc. Its the best thing thats happened to this area.
Its a joke to say Sandy Springs is a community of gated neighborhoods. Sandy Springs has a gang problem, armed robberies, drug dealers, low income apartments, etc. This is part of the reason they have their own police force, fulton county just wasnt doing their job.
2204Alpha 3 years ago
Please!
Let Mr. Obama MEET Dr. STEFAN LANKA as soon as possible!
Thanks in ADVANCE!
S.
videoclipsx 3 years ago
What a joke this "news report" is. Trying to stir up racial warfare. Fulton County is the most currupt in Georgia and probably top 10 or 20 in the US. Fulton Co. has so many socialist welfare handout programs and elected official padding their pockets that they needed someone to pay for it so they taxed the hell out of North Fulton. North Fulton communities saw massive tax increases every year with less county services. Do the research. Read Atlas Shrugged and look at America
Karlminion 3 years ago
Revolutionaries??
Disgusting as this is, it's the future.
herrgolf 3 years ago
This very thing is happening in Chicago. We have the most criminal mayor in the country. Driving the poor and middle class under for the rich.
moonstar7 3 years ago
Ask Mussolini; Corporation+Government= FASCISM!!! WAKE UP! And we have people freaking out about Democrtic Socialism??? i want my freakin country back!! NOW!!
pholly62 3 years ago
Yes, Mussolini said: "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."
And Abraham Lincoln also warned: "I see in the near future a crisis. . . . Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people, until wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the republic is destroyed.
Check your email & fight it.
ankjack 3 years ago
This demonstrates capitalism at it's finest. Gotta love how corporate America grabs hold in every aspect of our daily lives.
johnhart30 3 years ago
I hope one day during my lifetime that what people perceive as different will be viewed as unique and accepted by everyone.
johnhart30 3 years ago
Those huge houses are shocking.
The peer counselling sessions need to be promoted. Democracy thrives through these type of grass root discussions.
carcultured 3 years ago
At 13:10 the journalists says something like "two starkly different visions". What bullshit. It's one vision. You want a comparison look somewhere else in the world for a region to compare with. Earlier he says "two dreams". Its the same damn dream.
j3g44x5gf 3 years ago
Whoa. How the heck did you do that? The link to the exact moment of the video?
Godheval 3 years ago
If you write a number in this format MM:SS then youtube will do the rest. :-)
j3g44x5gf 3 years ago
testing. 13:10
ReggieHolmquist 3 years ago
I think you should be getting the point that these things happen and that you need to move on if that means moving to a different place or having to penny pinch then so be it. It may be more difficult for several years but it will get better and not stay permanent. Sure some kids may struggle with their academeics but guess what that happends. Sure people may no longer be able to afford housing in their area, guess what that happends, move to a different area.
Noliving 3 years ago
The other thing your forgetting is that a vast majority are not in danger of losing their jobs or homes.
Noliving 3 years ago
"Privatization" is simply placing ALL control of the "masses" into the hands of the wealthy.
They have been working on this for many many years.
Using tax free "social foundations" (think tanks designed to harness & direct our colleges, universities, media and social "trends"), the transnationalist investors/bankers have decided to take away our Constitutional "rights" through absorbtion. (Wars aren't working for them.)
Once the subjugation is complete the "little people" will be dead meat.
t4705mb6 3 years ago
I'll be voting for Obama b/c he has lived through the
last 47 yrs but he does not live in the past. When you see
poor areas & take away the I-Pods & cell phones
time seems to stand still. It might be 1955, 1965, 85...
laws change but nothing changes. I WOULD NEVER LIVE IN PLEASANTSVILLE or whatever city CH2MHILL is
running but I don't blame republicanville types for
kinda putting a distance between them and the...
the never ending past.
danger0usknowledge 3 years ago
Don't beg for THEIR money - organize yourselves and make YOUR community better (by any means necessary) with or without them - make your OWN money (that is what an OWNER does)...
By letting ONE private corporation run your entire city you are opening a pandora's box (mark my words)...
-G
"All I Ever Wanted Was To DO Right (Riiight)"
GagnezTV 3 years ago 3
I wish my money did not have to go to the bail out plan.
Joeybsmooth 3 years ago
This man is lying his ass off, and knows it!!!
Bellamora72001 3 years ago
WOW, GREAT job AJE and Avi Louis!!! Never even heard of such a thing in America. Truly enlightening, and yet truly scary. Keep up the good work!!!
ballaamir 3 years ago
What a lot of nerve that so called interviewer calling the prodominently white town selfish and greedy. There living there lives. What about the envyist and unproductive blacks down there? Privatised cities like Sandy Spring is not reason why blacks down there are struggling. Detriot, New Orleans, Chicago, etc have a majority black population and they still live in crime ridden areas without the excuse of Privatisation. So tell me another one.
xxashyy 3 years ago
that fuckin white dude is a douchebag... ive always talked about we need to succeed from the union... but not for selfish racist fascist like views.....
DuvalVideo 3 years ago
Now this is something else.....
geneofisis 3 years ago
it sure is!!!
Bellamora72001 3 years ago
This is the dream and aim of the Republican Party: the Balkanization of America, along racial and economic lines. Absolutely disgusting. They're not even "conservative" anymore -- they are regressive.
vktrsx 3 years ago
so now corporations control the city? hmmm, socialism yum. If they wanted to leave a county, then sure do it, but government should not be a business. Business models do not serve people well, they serve profit well.
d3adp001 3 years ago
You have a misguided idea of what socialism is. In a socialist society, the corporation doesn't run government, but the government runs the corporation.
renegadecause 3 years ago 3
sandy springs rocks I lived there for 8 years..i miss my sandy springs..
chris9531 3 years ago
Way to go Friedman, this is the brave new world you wanted. It's a shame you're dead because I think you'd be ashamed of yourself.
studio7manga 3 years ago
Gimme a break!
The USA is bankrupt & Oct 1st US Military troops are training to fight American citizens
US owes 96 trillion it has plundered & pledged to SS & Medicare
US plundered another 53 trillion from other trusts
US owes 10 trillion interest to a bunch of private bankers it allows to print money out of thin air
US owes on 12 trillion Freddie & Fannie; US owes untold to Bernanke's buddies on Wall Street
US is over and done with!
Thank god for my second citizenship!
sugarpuddin88 3 years ago 2
avi lewis is a cbc reject
scoobyDx 3 years ago
CBC is an Avi Lewis reject.
jammoexii 3 years ago 2
dude, avi lewis had to go because he was rejected by the canadian audience. Take a look at the people wo stay on at CBC, they are top notch interviewers. Go look up some of the interviews lewis conducted while at CBC.. for example his richard dawkins interview.
It's a disgrace. That avi lewis is on the same channel with someone like say, riz khan is a joke.
I'll say it again. Avi Lewis is a CBC reject.
scoobyDx 3 years ago
Well juxtaposed with Riz, they just do different types of things. I'd say if it weren't for Avi there wouldn't have been near as much coverage on a lot of the things he covered, and it's not just him, but the projects he gets involved in on AJE. I could start listing them off, but I think they're obvious, this is a tremendously important show.
But you're just wrong about what happened. Avi Lewis got fed up with the CBC. He couldn't deal with it anymore.
jammoexii 3 years ago
I can foresee a lot of unintended consequences with this social experiment.
The bottom line is a government is the same as private business and it cannot be run like a private for profit business.
The suckers will learn.
gregwi562 3 years ago
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Is it true that all Al-Jazeera presenters are required TO BE MUSLIMS? That doesn't sound like journalism to me; just religious bullshit!
Antarblue 3 years ago
But it is interesting to me that Al-Jazeera performs a much better job at reporting and informing the public than CNN, MSNBC, Faux News, or any other of the major American news outlets are doing. Imagine that: news reported in a more objective manner and discussions about news topics rather than yelling and demeaning guests with opposing views.
FlatulenceFox 3 years ago 8
True. it does, but I am starting to notice the arab slant. I can be cogniscent of the unbelievable venal and brutal US foreign policy in the mid east without have to embrace their OTHER Abrahamist Islamic worldview. same-disgusting-same-disgusting.
Antarblue 3 years ago
You are a bigot!
georgiaartist 3 years ago
Oh I dunno. I am intolerant toward all religion and superstitious belief. I am not selecting any particular group. All the Abrahamists; Muslims, Christians and Jews share a brutal, insane barbaric ignorant 'iron age' view of the world. The only thing that's changed in me lately, is I no longer have the politically correct tolerance for 'moderates.' Moderate religion is insidious and has been a giant obstacle to humanity.
Antarblue 3 years ago
Avi Lewis's wife, Naomi Klein, was the keynote speaker of "Alliance of Concerned Jewish Canadians (ACJC) - look up "Don't Act Normal" on Youtube for proof.
Avi is the son of two Jewish parents who married the daughter of two Jewish parents. I presume that some of the people who moved over from the BBC to Aljazeera are Christian. I think this answers your question.
Remember that CEO who said the city was like a blank slate - NK talks about that both in video and in her book The Shock Doctrine.
vaudree 3 years ago
Thank you for taking my question as a a...question! And Thanks for your kind reply. some people thought my query was my statement! They of course labelled me anti-Semitic. Since more than 95% of the jews in Israel and 90% of the jews worldwide are 'Ashkenazik' jews and therby not Semitic, even if I was against them as a whole that would not make me anti-Semitic. I find corporate privatisation more scary and disgusting than religion. The future wars will be wars of privatisation.
Antarblue 3 years ago
Avi Lewis, very good job, never knew there are private cities, thank you for this story
relaxedmoody 3 years ago 4
Secession. They finally found an effective way to do it - these Georgians.
mcoldskool 3 years ago 3
Corporatocracy. This is a harbinger of what is to come.
mcoldskool 3 years ago 2
Why is it that a foreign news source was the only one that reported this story. This country is screwed. Things are going to have to get a lot worse before it gets better. They say america is the land of the individual. It is also the land of the jerk.
cat00012000 3 years ago 8
Because it isn't news, considering this has been done before in the history of this country of USA, you know those coal mining towns....they basically owned every single thing in the town, the schools, the businesses, the supplies for those business. So this country is screwed because of a city like this?
Noliving 3 years ago
So what happened to those mining towns when the coal mine closed?
vaudree 3 years ago
The towns died, everyone moved.
Noliving 3 years ago
Exactly!
vaudree 3 years ago
Exactly, this has been done before and it didn't bring down the USA, so no one in the USA really cares because its not really a threat to its society.
Noliving 3 years ago
We don't know whether anyone cares or not because no one is being told.
Harper misrepresenting Obama's position on NAFTA (ie NAFTA-gate) would not have been a big deal if no one in the US cares about mass plant closures. If a plant leaves (or goes under) then no one has jobs. If a company which owns the city leaves (or goes under) no electricity, running water, schools, police etc. If it happens all across America at once - it is a threat.
Search youtube for Lou Dobbs Jack Layton some time.
vaudree 3 years ago
The real reason why no one really cares is because that status is not permanent. The average american spends 6-9months in poverty in their life time. If a mass plant closes people will be concerned but they also know that in the future another business is going to move in, it might take several months to years but the point being is that it isn't permanent state. If a company owns a city and leaves or goes under guess what that means, everyone moves to a different location.
Noliving 3 years ago
That was the philosophy behind the sub-prime lending scandal where people pay reasonable rates for two years and then the mortgage goes up more than they can afford - that no one really cares if a few people can't pay their mortgages - they go bankrupt, they recover and then eventually buy that house.
Chrysler closes, Wal-Mart moves in. One will never be able to pay those high rents working at Wal-Mart - safe affordable housing disappears and you have no safe place to call home. (cont)
vaudree 3 years ago 2
You have working folk losing the homes they can afford to those building new homes they can't afford. If this happens across the country, they will eventually have no affordable place to live. When this happens elsewhere, you see families who grew up with electricity and in door plumbing eventually not having those things and literacy rates going down - making it harder for their children to move up. You then get people figuring that working doesn't pay and crime goes up.
vaudree 3 years ago
lol dude this isn't a domino affect. Not every business is suddendly going to fall. I doubt that about no affordable homes considering how much housing prices have dropped.Its a buyers market right now. Guess what buddy you don't need electricity and plumbing to learn, how do you think people became literate back in the 1700's? Dude this isn't the end of the world calm down.You do realize that if enough people go unemployed or if their salaries lower enough inflation actually reverses itself.
Noliving 3 years ago
And whose fault was it for taking those mortgages and not knowing about the rate hikes? Ya that happends when you get a lower paying job you can't afford things like you used to. get used to it.
Noliving 3 years ago
Maybe since Stephane Dion is retiring, he has time to write a Clarity Act for Mortgages. If you don't understand the Mortgage contract, you are forced to depend on those who do.
Government policy influences when a large number of people can no longer afford the lifestyle where you can comfortably raise a family without sacrificing necessities.
In my opinion, a child having books to call their own is a necessity. So is a computer in this day and age if you think of it.
vaudree 3 years ago
Well if you don't understand something you shouldn't be signing it.
Noliving 3 years ago
Define safe? Not all low price housing markets are crime ridden. Just like not all high price housing markets are safe.
Noliving 3 years ago
I wasn't thinking about crime, but a door with a decent lock would be nice. I am talking more along the lines of a place which doesn't threaten your physical health. When homes in your economic bracket are slim pickings, what you choose may not be safe to live in. Lack of plumbing in cities tends to lead to plagues historically.
When one works, one shouldn't have to live in a tent, and some working people do that because they can't afford the rents. No room for a lot of books.
vaudree 3 years ago
this is scary. I hope this does not become a trend.
sreejithgj 3 years ago
Very interesting. I'm still unsure how less privileged communities can survive if the wealth is concentrated in privileged areas. It seems if privitasation and deregulation become the norm across the country, there will be a starker contrast between the poor and the rich. There will be no middle class, just rich and poor. Maybe I'm wrong... Really insightful video though.
boopiie 3 years ago
It's called economic mobility, without access to the basic services such as a safe environment, education and health, people won't have the environment to better themselves. A class society, and I would say not good for a free capitalist country. Also to the person who said the poor should go look for jobs instead of complaining, you will soon see sweatshops within America, the poor being taken advantange and given the bare minimum for existence will live right next to the rich.
Renegen1 3 years ago
free ?
a free capitalist country.
ha ha ha HA,,,,HA,,,HA,,,
Yes your free to compete with the " Federal reserve" ya write
did you know that the poorest person in Georgia, if thay have a dollar, is richer than a bank with negative equity!!!
"God please let the economy fail so we can end the F.E.D.,. A-Men"
wcarlpdrysdale 3 years ago 3
why don't they do something to create business and job opportunities for people living in their area, instead of complaining and begging
nuttierthanthou 3 years ago
that's quite intresting
deidarajunior1508 3 years ago 3