John McCain is Anti-Choice

[JimmyFaust]

@kweer58 One thing about anti-choicers is that they can pack so much stupidity into so few words. 1) Fetuses are not babies. 2) There are reasons other than "socio-economic" to have an abortion. 3) Anti-choicers should also have to finish the sentence, thuthfully: "because we are ignorant hypocrites who care more about a bundle of cells than a suffering child" 4) The personal choices of others are none of your fucking business. Why don't you go force someone to donate blood or a kidney?

[VoiceHunter]

Thank God he lost.

And people, stop changing the meaning. You're either pro-choice, meaning you believe in the rightful idea that a woman should be able to judge for herself on what pops out of her body. Or, you're pro-life, meaning you believe in large government taking away a God-given freedom. You're not anti-life, you're not anti-choice.

Just clearing that up.

[ZombieMahem]

You can't handle the truth that obama is the wrong choice!

[TheLittlestCupcake]

If he makes abortion illegal in america, chaos will ensue. Women with unwanted pregnancies will either leave the country to have one, or have the baby and resent it because they can't afford to do that. Backstreet abortionists will run rampant again. Women will suffer for this. Women will not respond well to a man telling them they cannot make their own choices regarding their own bodies.

[jada569]

if he makes abortion illegal in america, we will be just like china. over run with people, and most likely there will be people trying to abort their own babies..

thats how i see it anyway. i'm for obama

[Beskargam]

Remember folks, there are only two sides of this issue: Anti-choice or Anti-life.

[ruhle65]

No, the two sides are anti-choice or pro-choice. NO ONE is anti-life.

[Beskargam]

You aren't playing by the rules of the game. Each side has to be able to demonize each other equally, which is what they do anyways.

The fact that you have bought into letting yourself think in terminology like "anti-choice and pro-choice" lets me know that you aren't interested in a rational argument. Rather, you are interested in casting those that believe differently than you as socially dangerous deviants.

[MisterPrice1]

So the general terms describing the polarity of the abortion debate are "PRO-CHOICE" and "PRO-LIFE".

Pro-choice people sometimes call the pro-life people "ANTI-CHOICE", meaning that the pro-life group is against the choice of a woman to terminate a pregnancy.

Pro-life people sometimes call the pro-choice people "ANTI-LIFE" or "PRO-ABORTS".

My suggestion, being on the pro-choice side, is that we start calling the pro-life people "ANTI-CHOICE" all the time to counterbalance their own terms.

[Beskargam]

Or, ya know, we could just ditch pointlessly divisive and inaccurate terms like that and refer to one side as Anti-Abortion and the other as Abortion-Neutral. Seriously, being against abortion doesn't make one for life any more than being for women having the option to abort means that one would use such an option.

[MisterPrice1]

Pro-choice is not abortion neutral. Pro-choice SUPPORTS ABORTION RIGHTS. Pro-lifers do not. There is no neutrality in this debate. Neutrality would mean that there is preference over whether abortion is legally permitted or not, and that is not the argument.

[Beskargam]

By "abortion-neutral", I was referring to the stance on whether or not abortion should happen. One who is pro-choice generally is not, for instance, "pro-abortion". Abortion-Neutral, to me, would refer to someone who believes in leaving it up to the person in question. You would call this "pro-choice", but such a title is as misleading as "pro-life".

[MisterPrice1]

I think pro-choice is not misleading at all: pro-choice individuals support a woman's choice in deciding whether or not a pregnancy will be terminated. In such terms, it is not misleading. Pro-life, on the other hand, I find to greatly misleading because it is actually supporting an anti-life position, by advocating a position that lessens the justified liberty of a woman and thus lessening her quality of life.

[Beskargam]

Exactly: they support the ability of women to make a choice about a specific topic, they don't necessarily support the ability of individuals to make choices about everything (which is what pro-choice actually sounds like). That's why I call it misleading. As for justified liberty, make a case for it being justifiable to be able to make the call about whether or not another human entity gets to continue living.

[MisterPrice1]

Well, it's much simpler just to call it 'pro-choice' because everyone knows what choice people are talking about. I guess you can make a similar argument in support of the 'pro-life' label, because everyone knows that it means the life of the unborn, not the life of the mother.

[Beskargam]

Yeah, and that's exactly why I don't refer to it as "pro-life". Of course, pro-life would actually be even more misleading, since being truly pro-life would encompass being pro-universal healthcare, anti-war, anti-death penalty, and anti-euthanasia.

But the real problem is the association that the labels create. After all, what kind of person is really against choice or life in general? But if you're not pro-choice, you're clearly against choice, and if you're not pro-life, you're against life.

[MisterPrice1]

I agree with that, but I think most rational people know exactly what the titles refer to and don't take it beyond that.

[Beskargam]

I thought that as well until I came across people (on both sides of the issue) that tried to draw comparisons between their stance on the issue and fundamental American values.

[MisterPrice1]

People will do that, but if they do it out of ignorance of what the terms pro-life and pro-choice really mean, then they're just ignorant.

[Beskargam]

I'm not referring to ignorant people that do it, I'm talking about cynical, manipulatively-minded people that draw such comparisons to attempt to gain support from the ignorant.

[MisterPrice1]

Well, their arguments are just as ridiculous as those of the ignorant. But I'm not going to stop using terms that make sense to me just because someone is misappropriating them. Ignorant and manipulative people will likely be around for a while, unfortunately.

[jbond5150]

Who cares what you think John McCain? The way your campaign is being flushed down the toilet, its not like your going to be elected prez anyway (thankfully for the rest of us).

[ZombieMahem]

You will see soon enouh how wrong you are.......I am one of the MANY who will die because of Obama's med plans....and what are those...? When the rich pay for it....what happens when they run out of money? Our government pays for it and we get worse in debt....along with the 1.6 trillion dollar spend...then add the continued spending by democrats on .5 million dollar meals every night!

[kentuckyboychris]

vote mc cane

[shaundraivy]

Of course he hates roe v.wade....He wants to take away all of our rights to PRIVACY....yeah that's what Roe v. Wade is about you right wing morons....not just about abortion

[wimlikesyou]

McCain will say anything to get a vote. McCain is too old and out of touch.

[DiscoverObamaDOTcom]

you mean obama will say anything to get elected?

obama has changed his position on late term abortion, fisa, oil drilling, traditional marriage, welfare reform, and gun rights.

just a thought.

[BillyBawb]

The pro-abortion crowd cannot win arguments with logic and facts so they have to resort to deriding their opponents with terms like "anti-choice" or "anti-woman", despite the fact that women are more likely to sympathize with the pro-life said. The latest generation of youth are also more pro-life. It's only a matter of time before abortion is palced in the trash-dump of history, along with slavery and segregation.

[jaythewicked]

There is no God. McCain has shown fluctuating views on abortion.

Why is human life sacred? What makes us any more special than any of the other animals on this planet? Who says life is sacred? God? If you read history, you'd know that God is one of the leading causes of death!!

[yokoisloco]

What gives us the right to kill an innocent baby? That's like saying I have the right to kill you. I don't. These women don't have the right to kill babies. It's sick.

[jaythewicked]

First, it is not a baby. It is a fetus. FETUS. An unthinking, unfeeling, growth like fetus. Face reality. Second, it is far from innocent. Against a woman's will, it implants itself in her uterus. A woman has every right to abort an unwanted pregnancy. Let's see you go through about 5 unwanted pregnancies, raise the children on minimum wage, and fear sex. Then I'll be glad to hear what you have to say about abortion. Before you say you'd use it, protection FAILS. Like appeal to emotion ;p

[PakarRhoy]

Now I'm leaving. Thank you for your time, but unfortunately it did not benefit me in the slightest... it only made me more bitter against your kind of people.

I'm avoiding you because this isn't fun for me, and I see I can't get through your thick skull. So farewell you baby-killing ***tard

[jaythewicked]

Wow, a cowardly pro lifer with nothing left to stand on running away. I see it alot. What babies by the way? I only see: fertilized eggs, zygotes, blastocysts, embryoes, and fetii. No babies. Maybe it's your thick skull that needs to be bored through. Why not get raped and pregnant (if female)? Then tell me your "moral" group is so great. Until then, I dont want to hear a WORD against abortion from you. My pal got raped and pregnant and it traumatized her. she miscarried thank goodness.

[PakarRhoy]

I don't want women to die, but if that's what it takes to get them away from abortion, I'm willing to live with it! Will I feel sorry for a murderer because court decided to execute him? Yes, but I realize it's for the greater good.

I don't care if it's a man-made story or not. That doesn't mean it's wrong. And I will tell you right now that I don't want to be a part of your "society".

[jaythewicked]

You want women to die for fetii? Sacrifice actual life for potential life? You sir or ma'am are a MONSTER.

[PakarRhoy]

Fine you win. These are my last comments just because I'm getting sick of replying to all of your incredibly monstrous posts. I think 4 days are enough.

Let's see: Hitler was born, so he's a excellent example of a good abortion. Let's kill everyone because we don't know which ones are gonna be evil. Better to not take chances right?

And I WANT the women to get punished for abortions. I would LOVE to see some of them die if that's what it takes to stop killing their unborn children!

[jaythewicked]

cont. don't you hate text limits? Anyway, you seem to not understand what difficulty having a child is. It is your primitive mindset of "let's do things the hard way" that will lead earth into recession. There is an easy way to stop pregnancy that happened in a 1-1000 chance.We use it. We as a society thrive by overcoming another life issue. It has no "right to life"(the fetus), nothing does or ever will. It is a man made story to make us feel good and noble about ourselves. nothing more.

[PakarRhoy]

I LOVE how they make it sound so evil to be against baby murder...

Let's say you guys are pro-death eh? Or wait, nevermind, the babies are dying for good reasons... wait, what are the reasons?

[jaythewicked]

I am against baby murder. I am not against fetus killing. We are pro choice, you 11 year old. If a woman wants to fuck up her life, fine. If she wants to be smart, fine. The reasons are not carrying a parasite on minumum wage for 9 months, and then raising it on minimum wage and giving up your life for 18 years or more. That is in it's purest form slavery at best. I refuse to be a slave to a fetus. It has no rights, and certainly none over a sentient human being.

[PakarRhoy]

Don't have sex then! If you are too careless where it costs a baby's life, then don't have sex! I'm 17 and a virgin, and I can tell you that I wouldn't kill... er, "have abortion" for 5 minutes of mindless pleasure.

And besides, you deserve to have no children if you think you're a slave to your children. They deserve more than that.

[jaythewicked]

You're saying if I am in love with someone who wishes to, and I consent, show their love physically, we should abstain? Hell no. ANd it is a fetus. srsly; get it through your thick pro life skull.Baby is an appeal to emotion which has no effect on rational people. I am 19 and a virgin, by the way. Children as well as adults deserve to live the way they want, so I plan to do just that. Vasectomy, I'll get one. Error somehow? Abortion time. Oh and 5min sex? XD Done right, it lasts all night

[PakarRhoy]

I would greatly appreciate it if you would prevent giving life to it in the first place. And people do deserve the way they want, but within reason. If the way I want to live includes murdering my neighbor, I can't do that, it would restrict on his right to live.

If you don't want the child, that's fine, give him up for adoption or something. But I don't see any reason why you can't endure for 9 months to give someone else the chance to live for maybe 80 years.

[jaythewicked]

You would? Well here's the thing: I don't cater to your whims. I dont' care if some anti choice activists gets all offended. If a signifigant other of mine gets pregnant and wants an abortion that is our business. I am not out to please you or your looney toon brigade. A fetus is alive, but has no "life." No emotional ties, no sentience, no friends, no past, no history, no skills, NOTHING. I and my partner do. Abortion is deleting a hollow shell. Would you break a full CD or a blank one?

[PakarRhoy]

You can shove all the 'hollow shells" you like. But as for me, I would break neither CD, seeing the potential for the unused one, just like the unborn child. It can live, it can experience history, it can have a past, it can learn skills, it can have friends, and it can learn to love life.

The ONLY situation I would allow abortion is when the mother's life is in danger. Other than that, the only reasons for abortion are that the mother is too pathetic or too selfish.

[jaythewicked]

YOU can shove all the "potential" you want. Hitler's mother considered abortion. How well did her choice work out? It can doesn't mean it has to. You seem to have a flawed vision of what a fetus is. It is homo sapien, yet not human. "you would allow" wow aren't you sounding high and mighty? Would back alley abortions that kill women be enough "danger" for you to approve? Women will get abortions, like it or not. At least make it safe. Not wanting pregnancy is far from selfish/pathetic.

[monique0017]

I don't care what anyone says. Abortion is the murder of an innocent human being that doesn't have the ability to choose for itself. If it's just a fetus why does it have a heart beat? And why do women that have abortions almost always regret it afterward and feel guilty?

[CrispyClaire]

Uh, actually most women who have abortions are fine with it. If most of them regretted it, most would be against it, but they're not. Most antichoice folk are men-privleged, wealthy men like JM who will never be pregnant nor possibly understand the position a woman might be in to make that difficult decision. These are the same people against contraception and sex ed to PREVENT unwanted pregnancy, the same people who are pro-war and pro-death penalty. They don't give a F about anyone who's born.

[monique0017]

No, I mean if a woman has an abortion in the first place then they were obviously pro-choice to begin with but after they have an abortion a lot of women do end up regretting it. They feel extremely guilty and they're always thinking about how old there baby would have been had they chosen to have it and things like that. People never talk about the devastating effects abortion has on most women.

[CrispyClaire]

You can say 'most women' but there's really no proof of that. Nor do I have proof that they don't (not accepting 'studies' as proof, either, they're usually biased) but it's all a matter of opinion. I've heard from many who've had abortions and are fine with it - being prochoice I imagine it's not likely I'll meet many who regret it, and being anti-abortion it's not likely you'll meet many who don't. Yeah, sure I know some women do regret it, but plenty do not. We don't know the ratios.

[thrashly21]

Actually, we feel relief.

Why don't you just stay out of things you really know nothing about. Planned Parenthood is a wonderful organization that provides women with so much more than most people realize.

[EdinHaglersville]

No true Republican could possibly support his McCain - a traitor to the Pro-Life movement!

Options: Obviously, NO MORE BUSH family! So, The Constitution Party, or, VOTE LIBERTARIAN!

[hornedbeast91]

your taking away the unborn childs rights your not even giving it theoppurtunity of life it should be unconstitutional

[zzot2]

This is one big reason why McCain will win the white house....he isn't for KILLING babies. I am amazed how people can't understand the simple concept that killing an unborn life is wrong. You want to talk about choices, what choice does the baby have in abortion? You want to talk about rights, we are all granted the basic rights of LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Abortion takes that right away from the most innocent of victims.

[anonymouse228]

If it is unborn, it is not life. I am pro-life of the woman who will shove a coat hanger into her uterus to scrape the fetus out. I am pro-life of the woman who will go to back-alley abortionist and die from an infection. That is true pro-life.

[zzot2]

Or the women could carry this baby to term and give this life up for adoption to a loving family, which is what would happen in 99.9% of the cases if abortion was illegal.

[jaythewicked]

"those born or naturalized in the United States..."

Key words: born or naturalized (immigrants) in the United States. A fetus is neither. Therefore, no basic rights.

[TFarache]

What about animal rights? Turtle eggs can't be killed in some communities.

[jaythewicked]

This is because the turtles are endangered or in danger of becoming endangered. Humans are far from endangered. We are over populating the planet, actually.

[TFarache]

Then why try to find a cure for AIDS, feed poor children or stop the genocide in Darfur? Why not just let them die? I think the whole overpopulation idea is racism against non-white peoples.

[naught07]

Whats with all these damn hypoctical "Christians" agianst abortion seriously???? There is nothing wrong with it. Seriously. Its Peoples Choice to have an aborition its peoples RIGHTS! Damn republicans keep on trying to take our Rights Away!!! And Mccain Sucks!! he is another Bush

DONT VOTE JOHN W MCCAIN!!!!!!!!

VOTE BARACK OBAMA!!!! FOR A BETTER CHANGE

[Aloverssoul]

Your an idiot there's no point talking to you pro-file has won or will soon so you and your baby killing friends have lost^_^ good bye loser i'm off to join the winners.

[asblue91]

"Your an idiot there's no point talking to you"

Sweetie, anyone with an IQ above fifty could read our conversation and determine who is the idiot.

"pro-file has won or will soon" Pro- LIFE. You call ME the idiot? "you and your baby killing friends have lost" Only time will tell. "good bye loser i'm off to join the winners." Okay, in the meantime, I'm going to go have an abortion :) It's still legal for me to do so, you see.

[Aloverssoul]

Ya it is have fun and you just showed everyone you have no heart you care for nobody but yourself.

[asblue91]

"you just showed everyone you have no heart you care for nobody but yourself."

By being pro-choice? That is simply me showing everyone that I care more about myself than a FETUS. There are many people in my life that I care about much more than I care about myself. My mother for example: if she had gotten pregnant with me and wanted to abort me, I would gladly die for her if it meant an easier life for her. I hope any fetus I ever reproduce would be willing to die for me.

[xsamus3]

Alright. So I don't believe in everything McCain says...

but why is this video considered a bad thing? Why is being Pro-Life so wrong? It's not being against something, it's being for something.

Abortion is a one time choice that robs someone of a lifetime of choices.

Give this comment negative ratings all you want. Abortion kills.

[angiecoop7]

Go Mccain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!

[earlsgirlblack]

John McCain is a dangerous man who will say anything to any group to get elected so he can "BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB IRAN" I met his wife as well in the 80's in Phoenix and she is an ICE QUEEN very much a STEPFORD wife. Go away you creep. Leave my body alone.

[badp81]

When McCain ran in 2000 he was pro-abortion. I don't believe this garbage that he's pro-life. He's a baby-killer just like the rest of them.

[StateRoad42]

What is more important a "choice" or a "life." This is a video about anti-life NOT anti-choice.

[Aloverssoul]

Wow aren't you a little demon ^_^ see everyone this is a pro-choicer see what their like their heartless to the max.

[sarahelfwine]

And you're an imbecile.

[Aloverssoul]

And your heartless.

[asblue91]

"And your heartless."

No honey, if you want to force me to sacrifice my body and my health for a fetus, you are the one who is heartless.

[Aloverssoul]

Your sick if you don't want a baby don't have sex all you pro-choicers say the same thing,your all idiots and and pro-murder abortion is taking a life and its losing soon no more abortions will be aloud look it up and see for yourself.

[asblue91]

"if you don't want a baby don't have sex"

It's not always so simple. Perhaps you are so narrow minded, you cannot think of a situation where this would be difficult, so I will make it plain and clear- the circumstances under which a girl gets pregnant aren't always black and white. "your all pro-murder" Anyone who supports the death penalty or war is pro murder as well, go yell at them. "soon no more abortions will be aloud" It'll happen illegally anyway.

[Aloverssoul]

Yes it will always happen but the women who do it the other ways can be left in a great deal of pain! yay! they should for been a murder and everyone who supports war and the death penalty are murderers also what? you think I would say something else? war is nasty and anyone in any army should die their all killers at the end of the day.

[nododon]

John McCain is CFR Barack Obama is CFR Hillary Clinton is CFR The media is CFR The military leaders are CFR The big corporations are CFR The only one who isn't CFR is Ron Paul. The March on Washington is going to be in June. Be there, and help us get our country back! R3VOLution is coming, history is in the making. Ron Paul R3VOLution !!!!!

[Aloverssoul]

Your mother is a bad mother only a bad mother puts her child before herself.

[Aloverssoul]

Pro-Life all the way!! look at the name PRO-LIFE means we want the life to live!!!! Choice is a nice way of saying you want the baby to die!! if you ahve sex at any age and end up been told your going to have a baby then you have to deal with it and get ready to be a perent only bad people who like to party 24/7 would think otherwise and don't talk to me about rape because if you don't like the father then don't kill the kid! only weak minded people let that ruin their lifes.

[sarahelfwine]

No "Choice" is a way of saying that we don't feel like we have a right to make a woman carry a child against her will. Choice means that we trust women to make the best decision for them, whether that's abortion, adoption or keeping the child themselves. Pro-Lifers who would force women to carry to term children they didn't want aren't Pro-Life, they're not thinking about the mother's quality of life. Pro-Life is just a nice way of saying pro-forced birth.

[TheJeffMiller]

What, do we worship Roe v. Wade? I thought liberals were opposed to a religious test.

The fact is Roe WAS bad...bad Constitutional Law. If you are pro choice, then the place to fight for your position is in the legislature!

[dmcglau1]

by limit in the previous post, I mean reduce

[dmcglau1]

I wish we could end Pro-choice v. Pro-life debate. This accomplishes nothing. Why not instead sit down at table together and determine how to limit the number of abortions. Would that not be a more productive use of time?

[juekityler]

'Choice' is rather abstract and even arbitrary, isn't it? An unborn child does not choose to be aborted (we would all assume with strong conviction). At the same time, an Iraqi child does not choose to be caught in a nearby explosion. Or, maybe, the sanctity of life is an arbitrary concept and the justification for killing is equally so?

[mongoose7001]

Um... this is pretty much to be expected for the republican nominee isn't it???

[mjbyars]

Thank you, Planned Parenthood for confirming what I knew about John McCain long in advance. He's no maverick. McCain is a misogynist neocon.

[jaredbrunk]

It's not Anti-Choice!

Does the child get a choice to live???

We live in an age were there are multiple CHOICES for contraceptives to prevent pregnancies. Hell, another choice is to get your tubes tied OR take out your uterus.

[jaredbrunk]

How's that for a choice?  It is irresponsible to not take precautions, kill the child, and then say it was YOUR CHOICE.

It's taken a long time, but we have EQUAL RIGHTS for all RACES, AGES, and SEXES (that's you!), but when the hell are we going to have THE RIGHT TO BE BORN???

[sarahelfwine]

Actual life trumps potential life. I'd rather a hundred foetuses be aborted than one living breathing woman die in the back-alley abortions the world will go back to if abortion is made illegal.

A woman who does not want to carry a child will not carry that child, even if it kills her, that's why abortion was legalised in the first place.

I don't like abortion, you don't have to like it either. But what you should accept is that abortion needs to stay legal.

[TiedayFriday]

Why don't you like abortion?

[sarahelfwine]

My mum had one because carrying another child to term could have killed her. She's still grieving, but she's alive and that's important to me. It needs to be legal. I don't know if I'd ever have an abortion myself, but it needs to be legal.

[Aloverssoul]

That was herself before her child^^,okay sorry for saying that my bad,abortion is murder but I see where your coming from with this but still if you don't want a baby then give it to someone who does never a need to kill it and if your 14 and have sex you ahve to be ready for whats perents for not talking about sex.

[Aloverssoul]

Like perents should talk to their kids about sex and so should teachers and not just a few times a week,everyday!,they should give out condoms and pills out to kids and tell them what there for and how to use them yes they teach that but not enough and not at the right age,perents should tell their kids all about sex and so should teachers at a young age maybe 12 or 13 and always talk about the ups and downs from sex then that would help with everything you know?.

[dummyfun1]

At least he's got this right.

[jasonpaul37]

good!!

[dmcglau1]

Actually, McCain makes a good articulation here: Roe v. Wade is a bad decision--legally. If you've ever spent the time to read the decision, the stare decisis is a razor thin legal analysis that is poorly drafted. With that said, I am, nonetheless, a policy supporter of abortion rights.

[PaperGirlfriend]

why do all the files always have 3:23 remaining on them?

[rob062388]

Oh get over it you irresponsible hacks.

[WolDerek]

Like this is a bad thing?

[habs1usa]

Ha, this is awesome. What a hack

[Liesareynolds]

This is so scary. Thanks Planned Parenthood.