Freetrack FSX - 6 Degrees of Freedom

[mickellemastra]

my freetrack is not working in fsx:(

[flowmp]

freetrack settings ?

[SIMMER514]

@bushpilot223 I just need a webcam to make this work or some type of censor in my head etc.?

[bushpilot223]

@SIMMER514 You need a webcam in which you can remove the IR filter, and you need some type of IR or LED light system so the webcam can track the lights. I recommend getting the TrackIR Pro Clip, it's cheap, and you clip it onto your headphones. That and a Microsoft webcam VX1000, cheap, and it has a removable IR filter, and works well will Free-Track.

[SIMMER514]

@bushpilot223 What about Face TrackNoIR? 

[bushpilot223]

@SIMMER514 Hmmm I'm not sure, but I know it works in freetrack, and that program is free.

[SIMMER514]

@bushpilot223 Ok I`ll ckeck it out!

Worth looking considering the TrackIR price :P

[davidjjdj]

@bushpilot223 for the webcam could i use any one and put a filter over it? such as negatives, or floppy disk material?

[bushpilot223]

@davidjjdj No most cameras have an IR filter and it needs to be removed or the camera will not be able to "see" the light, it isn't at a visible wavelength. The filter that you put over it is to remove any ambient light. And I found a floppy disk works perfectly for this. If you aren't using an IR light, then you don't have to worry about removing any filter.. But if you're using, say, the TrackIR Pro clip, then you will have to remove the IR filter from your webcam.

[EAGLEEYE2431]

please can you tell me what setting you got here because my freetrack keeps shaking and i cant fly with it so can you tell me please the curves and the sensitivity settings please :)

[bushpilot223]

@EAGLEEYE2431 It's not that simple. My rig was custom built, so I had to take my own measurements... I left curves all default and I just played with the sensitivity until it was right. My settings won't do you any good.

[TheAvigdor]

excelent! 

[bigsparrow1]

How did you manage to fine tune like that?

It can be tough to adjust speed, altitude and heading in virtual cockpit, unless you have a very large screen.

That's why I use voice control software called "Multi Crew Experience". I give voice commands to my slave (a.k.a. co-pilot) and he turns the dials for me.

Can also talk to native ATC or Radar Contact ATC. Since a demo is available, all you'd need is a headset with mike to try it out :-))

bigsparrow1 1 month ago

[ellonysman]

Hey Bush, have you got a video showing how you assemble the 3 pointer freetrack?

[bushpilot223]

@ellonysman No, I don't. I followed someone else's video but they have taken it down since I watched it. I don't use this setup now, now I use the TrackIR Pro Clip. It cost like 25-30 bucks I forget but it works good and it is small and you can just clip it to your headphones when you want to use it.

[vegeta0200]

flying with freetrack is the best feeling on the world... my friends have gone on the trip 'round the world (from Dubrovnik, Croatia) and now we are in Washington DC (KIAD)...

freetrack gives the sense to 3 hour flights xD

Learjet 45 Ann Edition Rules :)

[tek5828]

Have you had any experience with Track IR? Because i want one of these systems, but i don't know wether to go cheap get Free track setup, then possibley want to upgrade to Track IR because its not 'as good' -OR- Wait, save up and buy Track IR for the $200 + !!

Is Track IR a waste of money or not? thanks for your help if you can

Much obliged

[bushpilot223]

I have never used the TrackIR program itself, but what I did (after ditching this setup) was buy a TrackIR Pro Clip (or something like that) from the TrackIR company, and use Freetrack and a webcam (cheap Microsoft VX-1000). The clip is only $30 I think, and it works fine. I definitely recommend it. Just make sure you find the right measurements for the Model options. If you can't find them send me a PM here and I will give you them if you decide to buy the clip. IMO, TrackIR is a huge waste.

[tek5828]

Oh ok. Yeh i'm not too good with electronics so i was going to buy a Pro Clip anyway. So theres different measurments? ill find out which one ill need from the Free track website. If i run into any trouble ill send you a PM. Thanks

Oh, already got a Microsoft lifecam set up that i dont use :D Peeerrrfect.

Thanks

[bushpilot223]

sweet. you have to modify it though to pick up IR light waves. you just remove the pinkish colored IR filter. You just carefully unscrew the webcam, take off the lens, and then the pink film should be right there on the eye part. Carefully pry it off, the pink stuff might shatter all over when you peel it off but it doesnt matter, just throw it out. theres a video somewhere on youtube showing you how to do it on a VX-1000 step by step

[tek5828]

Yep, ive seen the video by ViperTwo. And i think i have some floppy disk around here somewhere :D Thanks. Can't wait to get it working. So whats the response like? Is it clean and precise or a bit dogey here and there?

[bushpilot223]

its pretty smooth. it takes some tweaking to get it perfect, but once you get the settings right its great

[tek5828]

Ok, good :D i can't wait

Doesnt hurt you neck too much?

[bushpilot223]

Your neck? the clip goes on your headset

[tek5828]

From moving you head around.

[bushpilot223]

oh no mine dont hurt at all

[tek5828]

Sweet. Can't wait :D looks like it adds a whole new immersion to FSX

[jcbak]

I'm having trouble with Z axis.....lots of jittering when the slide is moved even a touch. Plus mine isn't a smooth as yours....I've got a newer computer. What are your settings if you don't mind sharing.  Also, I used a ruler to measure for the Pro Clip.....how critical are the measurements??

[bushpilot223]

@jcbak They are very important. I have mine set to (from top to bottom) 29, 41, 60, 73. I also measured mine myself

[ojomow]

I need help on FSX settings, they aren't smooth and goes to fast and jitters everywhere.

How do you measure it? I have 3 IR LED mic clip

[ParaglidingManiac]

What is the soundtrack please?

[bushpilot223]

ACDC - Shook Me All Night Long. it's in the credits

[ParaglidingManiac]

Hi. My 6DOF keep twitching. It's getting better with lower sensitivity, but then I can't look around much. Higher sensitivity means twitching again. What can I do?

[bushpilot223]

Try using smoothing and the smoothing multiplier.

If that dont work try playing with the Curves to create deadzones

[ParaglidingManiac]

Where are those Curves to create deadzones located? I'm having difficulties finding them.

[bushpilot223]

at the top of freetrack there is a button that says Curves

[ParaglidingManiac]

God damn it.. I'm such an idiot! Thank you, that helped. So smooth... and my neck is already killing me :)

[ParaglidingManiac]

Everything works fine. except for that I can't get my camera in FSX looking up/down. Which setting is it? Thank you!

[bushpilot223]

if it aint moving up and down then idk. you set it in the options for 4 Point Cap right?

[ParaglidingManiac]

Yes. 4 Point Cap. I am Using 4 leds on a cap in a way it's shown. Typed in the mm between the leds, and every single way I move my head - it works perfectly in a simulator (fsx)! Just without up/down :(

Oh, and for some reason, the FS2004 doesn't react to FreeTrack anyhow. I did set it on FS2004/FS2002(FSUISP) mode. Used the default and the special FS2004 profile. NO REACTION.

[ParaglidingManiac]

I have my 4 leds device, but can't figure out how to configure FreeTrack properly. Could you send me your profile to FSX please?

[bushpilot223]

i dont use 4 LED's it is no longer supported the max supported is now 3 LED's. my device got thrown away but i just ordered the Track Clip Pro the thing that goes with TrackIR and a webcam so my prfile wouldn't work with your setup

[ParaglidingManiac]

So will I be able to use 4 LEDs in FSX? If I want to use 4.

[bushpilot223]

in FreeTrack, go to Model then go to 4 Point Cap and it should work. But you need the measurements to be correct. you did follow the steps in the official handbook right? if you didnt you're going to have to redo it because there are specific measurements that need to be used.

[doc1236]

Sweet man.... Is it possible for you to show what stuff you use in another video? I really wanna have this but not spend out £120 for a webcam and some lights! :P

Cheers

[bushpilot223]

Okay this may sound retarded but I just have a super cheap webcam @ 30fps, and a ball cap hat with a christmas lights on it with all but 3 blacked out with heat resistant paint.... ehem.

lol.

my mom threw away my hat >:( so i cant' show ya. lol

[tiemji]

That's awesome. Very good stuffs

[bushpilot223]

Thanks!