It's not just the Terminators who wear black armour. I'm pretty sure it's all of the First Company who wear black armour, considering Catuclan Reaver Squad (1st Comapny assault marines) are described as having black armour as well.
Firstly, let me say I'm a great admirer of your talent and works! I think this is an AWESOME Legion to choose. I am a Dark Angels Heresy player (My Legion resembles the Loyalist sect during the Battle of Caliban). However, I've always loved the Luna Wolves, and the books have done them much justice. They are the most "human" of all legions, and their struggle to maintain their loyalty comprehensive. They represent the battle all space marines had to fight during the Heresy. Great choice!
wow although i dont really like the luna wolves (cuz theyre damn heretics xD ), i gotta admit that these look like theyre gonna be something AWESOME when they're done.....
Ive just started reading Horus rising, the first horus heresy book, and its got a lot of the Luna Wolves in it. I am soo in the mood for these! I cant wait to see the finished job!!
realy nice stuff you made there...but one thing directly poped into my mind....wait a minute....this is pre heresy. at this time period several things are not invented jet.
Assault cannons are one of them...this is why chaos terminators don´t have it.
other still not invented things:
razorback, plasma cannon for infantry, predator anihilator, landraider redeemer and crusader, thunderhammers for infantry, multimelters for infantry, stormbolters, vindicators, whirlwinds, drop pods....
@GirlPainting Yes we are aware that you cannot have some of the things you mentioned however you are incorrect on: Vindicators, plasma canons, whirlwinds, predator anihilator, drop pods & thunderhammers. All these are allowed and have been in several publications of the black library and the horus heresy, including pre heresy.
@MarneusAugustaCalgar well, you have to devide the official fluff from the fluff of the black library, because they often contradict the already written fluff. for example it is sayed that the vindicators are invented quite some time after the heresy. then in the 2. edition codex chaos is written that the energy coils are the pre thunderhammer weapons from witch they are invented in the 35. milenia. the predator anihilator was invented from the space wolves in 34. milenia and so on...
@GirlPainting but don´t get me wrong. i don´t whant to dictate you what to put into your army ;-) As a little tip, i would take the codex chaos and oriantate what they have avaleble beside demonic stuff ;-)
@GirlPainting Although, before the Heresy, the Iron Warriors were known for having Vindicator's, they may have not been mass produced in other other chapters till after the Heresy, but they were invented, also of course Thunder hammers were around before the Heresy, because Rogal Dorn had a Thunder Hammer, also the Primarch of the Iron Warrors had a Thunder Hammer, like with the Vidicator's, they may have not been mass produced, but they definutly were invented!
@GirlPainting Ummm... No... All of those were their, asualt cannons were as I remember from the first heretic, all tanks were discovered before the crusades began, not invented by the imperium. Stormbolters are so simple to build, Plus chaos termies have storm bolters, and multi-meltas.
thumbs up my friend great job on the greenstuff hair,, looking forward to see your next mods. think im really going to like see what you guys come up with for this game..
@MarneusAugustaCalgar You need to read Horus rising, the first HH novel. It's essentially a commitment, sworn before battle, to accomplish the aims of the battle plan. Normally wipe the enemy of the face of the earth :). I get the impression it's where purity seals developed from. They are fixed to shoulder pads just before the drop.
I'm sure you can pull off the free hand. You might want to look into printing your own decal. The windows cam out so well. Time to press the printer into service again! Looking forward to seeing your progress.
MarneusAugustaCalgar: just if you didn't know, forgeworld has earlier armour if gonna do tactical squad 'n that also bolters, these are looking good by the way
Awesome work man! Just one thing, I thought the Assault Cannon was invented AFTER the Heresy, that is the reason Chaos Space Marines don't have assault cannons. I could be wrong, but you may want to see into that. (And I do realize it has to be a playable army, so if knew this, and picked it for playability, then ok! :P)
@steamisM50 That confuses me somewhat, i thought that too, but i'm reading 'A Thousand Sons' at the moment which is set before/during the heresy and apparently the thousand sons terminators have some of the 'new assault cannons' that they decide to call the 'reaper'.
This doesn't fit with any of the table top stuff xD....very confusing.
@Musabre "reaper"? Maybe it is renamed the Reaper Autocannon later on by the Imperium, after they made the assault cannon. I DO know, that the Reaper Autocannon was a predecessor to the more powerful assault cannon, so that may be it.
@steamisM50 Indeed, i think it may just be a goof that the writer of 'A 1000 Sons' didn't realise. That or chaos got pissy about using assault cannons? lol. Who knows.
Not trying to be picky, but fluff wise the assault cannon wasn't introduced until after the Horus Heresy. The autocannon was used preheresy, hence why the traitor legions don't have assault cannons. Same story with the combi-bolter and storm bolter.
i think they fit into pre-heresy. you could give them a bit of chainmail in the gaps in between the armour pieces or some bolts on the legs or should but i think that would be too much details (you can't never have enough :D). for me that would look really great. just a suggestion though :)
great stuff mac cant wait to see how you pull them off
@MarneusAugustaCalgar my question is storm bolters and assault cannons didn't exist or rather weren't on such a large scale pre heresy how are you going to apporach that or is that gonna be over looked in the campaign
It's not just the Terminators who wear black armour. I'm pretty sure it's all of the First Company who wear black armour, considering Catuclan Reaver Squad (1st Comapny assault marines) are described as having black armour as well.
StormchaserKnight 1 month ago
@StormchaserKnight I know.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 1 month ago
Hey there :) very Nice thingy
Paulbreetbisihrkotzt 4 months ago in playlist Pre Heresy Luna Wolves army build.
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Paulbreetbisihrkotzt 4 months ago
Very nice
Tridege 7 months ago
@Tridege Ta.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 7 months ago
Firstly, let me say I'm a great admirer of your talent and works! I think this is an AWESOME Legion to choose. I am a Dark Angels Heresy player (My Legion resembles the Loyalist sect during the Battle of Caliban). However, I've always loved the Luna Wolves, and the books have done them much justice. They are the most "human" of all legions, and their struggle to maintain their loyalty comprehensive. They represent the battle all space marines had to fight during the Heresy. Great choice!
BrianLeexx 7 months ago
@BrianLeexx Cheers buddy.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 7 months ago
wow although i dont really like the luna wolves (cuz theyre damn heretics xD ), i gotta admit that these look like theyre gonna be something AWESOME when they're done.....
as always with your stuff, marneus!
;D
188Katana188 9 months ago
@188Katana188 Thanks ;)
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
Hey Buddy. Love the idea behind the banner, good luck with that. All the greenstuffing looks good, but the hair on the 3rd one was my favourite.
squidgybidge 9 months ago
@squidgybidge Thanks mate.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
God. Damn. It.
Okay? Goddamnit.
As always ridicule is the community's to be had. You shame us. You. Shame us.
seitenshow 9 months ago
@seitenshow LOL, thanks bud.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
Ive just started reading Horus rising, the first horus heresy book, and its got a lot of the Luna Wolves in it. I am soo in the mood for these! I cant wait to see the finished job!!
TheRealMythril 9 months ago
@TheRealMythril Thanks chick, much more to come ;)
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
really nice build! check with brian as to what can and cannot be taken as he now has a list of things that weren't around.
fleshtearers01 9 months ago
@fleshtearers01 Yes mate, i now have the list ;)
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
Very very cool builds!
Catattafish 9 months ago
@Catattafish Cheers buddy.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
realy nice stuff you made there...but one thing directly poped into my mind....wait a minute....this is pre heresy. at this time period several things are not invented jet.
Assault cannons are one of them...this is why chaos terminators don´t have it.
other still not invented things:
razorback, plasma cannon for infantry, predator anihilator, landraider redeemer and crusader, thunderhammers for infantry, multimelters for infantry, stormbolters, vindicators, whirlwinds, drop pods....
GirlPainting 9 months ago
@GirlPainting Yes we are aware that you cannot have some of the things you mentioned however you are incorrect on: Vindicators, plasma canons, whirlwinds, predator anihilator, drop pods & thunderhammers. All these are allowed and have been in several publications of the black library and the horus heresy, including pre heresy.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
@MarneusAugustaCalgar well, you have to devide the official fluff from the fluff of the black library, because they often contradict the already written fluff. for example it is sayed that the vindicators are invented quite some time after the heresy. then in the 2. edition codex chaos is written that the energy coils are the pre thunderhammer weapons from witch they are invented in the 35. milenia. the predator anihilator was invented from the space wolves in 34. milenia and so on...
GirlPainting 9 months ago
@GirlPainting but don´t get me wrong. i don´t whant to dictate you what to put into your army ;-) As a little tip, i would take the codex chaos and oriantate what they have avaleble beside demonic stuff ;-)
GirlPainting 9 months ago
@GirlPainting Although, before the Heresy, the Iron Warriors were known for having Vindicator's, they may have not been mass produced in other other chapters till after the Heresy, but they were invented, also of course Thunder hammers were around before the Heresy, because Rogal Dorn had a Thunder Hammer, also the Primarch of the Iron Warrors had a Thunder Hammer, like with the Vidicator's, they may have not been mass produced, but they definutly were invented!
AdamShifnal 9 months ago
@GirlPainting Ummm... No... All of those were their, asualt cannons were as I remember from the first heretic, all tanks were discovered before the crusades began, not invented by the imperium. Stormbolters are so simple to build, Plus chaos termies have storm bolters, and multi-meltas.
cadian101st 9 months ago
Really nice looking forward to seeing more on this new army for you . Good greenstuf well done .
TheSeasonman1 9 months ago
@TheSeasonman1 Thanks mate.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
Interesting! Love to see the paint job! Your own mini squad of darth vaders gone hippy =P
bazZy33K 9 months ago
@bazZy33K Oh yes ;)
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
thumbs up my friend great job on the greenstuff hair,, looking forward to see your next mods. think im really going to like see what you guys come up with for this game..
vanhammer73 9 months ago
@vanhammer73 Thanks Van.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
can't wait to see them painted, you do amazing work :)
jingo994 9 months ago
These look great Marneus and are going to be awesome looking when painted I am sure. thanks for sharing. Oh great work with the green stuff as well .
TheDizmo 9 months ago
@TheDizmo Thanks matey.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
Really nice.
Will you be adding oaths of moment to the shoulder pads?
jackhaughey 9 months ago
@jackhaughey maybe, if i knew what they are ;)
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
@MarneusAugustaCalgar You need to read Horus rising, the first HH novel. It's essentially a commitment, sworn before battle, to accomplish the aims of the battle plan. Normally wipe the enemy of the face of the earth :). I get the impression it's where purity seals developed from. They are fixed to shoulder pads just before the drop.
jackhaughey 9 months ago
LUNA WOLVES! Fuck yeah! :D
Looking really nice mate! Cant wait to see how it goes :D
~Ghost
linkinhearts666 9 months ago
@linkinhearts666 Thanks Ghost ;)
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
I'm sure you can pull off the free hand. You might want to look into printing your own decal. The windows cam out so well. Time to press the printer into service again! Looking forward to seeing your progress.
InTheCoalShed 9 months ago
@InTheCoalShed Thanks bud ;)
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
they look ace mate. I really love the wide shoulder pauldrons. also super green stuff work bud
OrcPainterNerd 9 months ago
@OrcPainterNerd Thanks bud.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
Looks like it'll be a blast!
Harbaugh87 9 months ago
@Harbaugh87 Cheers.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
Lvoely models...but i'm prety sure assault canons are post heresy, ence why none are featured in CSM armies.
cheers
Nebelung13 9 months ago
@Nebelung13 Yeah i know bud, cheers.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
Love it!
YeahMF 9 months ago
@YeahMF Cheers.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
are there any post heresy luna wolves?
miniwars123 9 months ago
@miniwars123 Nope, they became the infamous 'Black Legion' led by Abaddon.
Musabre 9 months ago
Great work
kartoffelnpommesgut 9 months ago
@kartoffelnpommesgut Cheers.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
MarneusAugustaCalgar: just if you didn't know, forgeworld has earlier armour if gonna do tactical squad 'n that also bolters, these are looking good by the way
clawhammr666 9 months ago
@clawhammr666 Yeah i know bud but im not paying 20.00 for 5 ;) Cheers.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
all looks great m8 keep it up
bloodofthefallen1 9 months ago
@bloodofthefallen1 Cheers.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
Really nice sculpting of the green stuff. Great job.
zakdamovieman 9 months ago
@zakdamovieman Thanks mate.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
Awesome work man! Just one thing, I thought the Assault Cannon was invented AFTER the Heresy, that is the reason Chaos Space Marines don't have assault cannons. I could be wrong, but you may want to see into that. (And I do realize it has to be a playable army, so if knew this, and picked it for playability, then ok! :P)
steamisM50 9 months ago
@steamisM50 That confuses me somewhat, i thought that too, but i'm reading 'A Thousand Sons' at the moment which is set before/during the heresy and apparently the thousand sons terminators have some of the 'new assault cannons' that they decide to call the 'reaper'.
This doesn't fit with any of the table top stuff xD....very confusing.
Musabre 9 months ago
@Musabre "reaper"? Maybe it is renamed the Reaper Autocannon later on by the Imperium, after they made the assault cannon. I DO know, that the Reaper Autocannon was a predecessor to the more powerful assault cannon, so that may be it.
steamisM50 9 months ago
@steamisM50 Indeed, i think it may just be a goof that the writer of 'A 1000 Sons' didn't realise. That or chaos got pissy about using assault cannons? lol. Who knows.
Musabre 9 months ago
looking forward to seeing how they look painted up!
archaeolas 9 months ago
@archaeolas Cheers.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
Those look awesome buddy! Man, those will look so great painted up.
Generalsplatton 9 months ago
@Generalsplatton Thanks Phil.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
looks vary nice bud
3000whitedragon 9 months ago
@3000whitedragon Cheers.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
I believe that Maxmini sells shoulder pads like that. They look great, can't wait to see them done. Keep up the great work!!
chuckman20 9 months ago
@chuckman20 Thanks for the tip mate.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
i think you've captured the theme well, man, no worries
Spiralvex 9 months ago
@Spiralvex Cheers ;)
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
Try to do them all in MK3 it looks great.
army310 9 months ago
Very cool Marneus. So excited about this!
asjarra 9 months ago
@asjarra Thanks bud.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
Excellent! I love the luna wolves fluff. where's Loken?
minitzonthesun 9 months ago
@minitzonthesun Give me time mate ;)
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
Very nice, but does this mean you'll have to create Abaddon, since he was the Captain of the Lunar Wolves (Sons of Horus)?
AdamShifnal 9 months ago
@AdamShifnal Not if i dont want to mate.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
very, very cool mate and i can tell u wa they will look like painted " AWESOME" lol
utrinque3NDparatus 9 months ago
@utrinque3NDparatus Thanks bro ;)
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
They look great, cant wait to se them painted! =)
ThunderfireMac 9 months ago
@ThunderfireMac Cheers.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
Not trying to be picky, but fluff wise the assault cannon wasn't introduced until after the Horus Heresy. The autocannon was used preheresy, hence why the traitor legions don't have assault cannons. Same story with the combi-bolter and storm bolter.
Great work on the models though.
Pugzilla69 9 months ago
@Pugzilla69 Yeah, im making alterations. Cheers.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
i think they fit into pre-heresy. you could give them a bit of chainmail in the gaps in between the armour pieces or some bolts on the legs or should but i think that would be too much details (you can't never have enough :D). for me that would look really great. just a suggestion though :)
great stuff mac cant wait to see how you pull them off
MainFist 9 months ago
@MainFist Cheers mate.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
Looking sweet matey
Thoraxeful 9 months ago
@Thoraxeful Cheers buddy.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
@SkartoothStudios Cheers mate.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
Well done feller! They look amazing! Great green stuff ;)
TemplarsCrusade01 9 months ago
@TemplarsCrusade01 Do you think they fit the pre heresy theme ok?
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
@MarneusAugustaCalgar Look great matey, I've ordered a load of shoulder pads as well lol
TemplarsCrusade01 9 months ago
@MarneusAugustaCalgar my question is storm bolters and assault cannons didn't exist or rather weren't on such a large scale pre heresy how are you going to apporach that or is that gonna be over looked in the campaign
purgeandcleanse 9 months ago
@purgeandcleanse They are not allowed ;( I will either modify them or use them as "counts as" weapons.
MarneusAugustaCalgar 9 months ago
@MarneusAugustaCalgar twin linked bolters and reaper auto cannons! lol
purgeandcleanse 9 months ago