I heard The Wall for the first time when I was 8 or 9 years old (beautiful 90's), and I liked every song. But when I listened "What Shall We Do Now" (movie)... man!! I threw all my Menudo and Parchís shit away and I began to be a rocker. A short time later I discovered Hard Rock music, kind of music I'm still loving. But "Pinky" made me grow, and this song was the trigger.
Amused to death was a Masterpiece. The other guys were great musicians together. It truly hurt when Gilmour didn't want to do a reunion tour. I love him to death and he is the best musician out of them, but he had a bad attitude through Live 8. Roger was totally humble. It seems like he has a great outlook now. I never thought I would see the day. Dave should have done it for the fans.
They wanted to inclued it but the album was too long for a double vinyl. They but empty spaces instead. But this is stil an important part of the story.
@alby711 fuck off, roger has talent but he cant play guitar anything like david, hes mainly good at writing material but he has a pretty shitty voice!!!
@ericcarrtime all the concept albums were thought of by Roger from dsom to the final cut. Without him there is no concept behind Pink Floyd, just empty spaces and riffs. Rogers art turns that into something awesome... art rock.
that was kinda harsh but I honestly do feel like Roger did a majority of things bc he truly is an artist and artists need control. And since no one else would write, Roger, being the artist he is, took control. but i guess i just don't like dave cuz he won't get over it. during an interview he said "hell no" (or something to that affect) when asked if a reunion was in the future. Then a few months later Rick dies. That just upset me as a fan you know?
I totally agree with you. David was not a perfect guy either, and people are always viewing him as a saint. I am totally on Rogers side, and I don't really view him as a dictator. He was just trying to come up with new material and nobody else was as good of a writer as he was and that must have put a lot of pressure on him.
@morrowindsky Waters is the shit (thanks for the teaching!). I had forgotten what a great band was Floyd with him. I mean, It's still a great band, but sadly a broken one, incomplete. Gilmour by himself is too "sober" for the band, Waters is a kind of essential part of PF, indispensable, irreplaceable, and so necessary for the Floyd's balance.
the surrogate band was a part of the wall tour, these shows cost a ton of money for the floyd back then, one may never know all that went on with PF, but I do believe this wall album was the begining of the end for PF, nevertheless there music was and still is awesome
you're exactly right gwl - well actually 'animals' was the beginning of the end - 'the wall' was the end of pink floyd and really it was roger waters debut solo album - which is why it's pretty much garbage (except for 'comfortably numb' - a gilmour number) - i'll take my disdain for waters to my grave - a great bassist, a great lyricist, a brilliant mind, and the sole reason the band broke up - for all his greatness, he was an asshole just the same
It wasn't on the original album because it was too long. They decided they had to cut some of the songs that had been written out to keep it down to just a double LP. In fact, this song was dropped at a very late stage, because the lyric sheets had already been finalized for the first string of pressings.
I dunno if it was changed later, but my LP copy lists this song on the lyric sheet, which also lists Hey You as the song on side three, and The Show Must Go On has an extra verse, as well.
Too long my ass. Just two minutes of additional music, the length of first LP would increase from about 39:00 to 41:00, making it about 21 minutes per side, what's wrong with that? Maximum capacity of a single LP was about 25-30 minutes per side. It's such a stupidity that they dropped it, because for me it is really one of the highlights of the entire concept.
No such feelings about LP2 though, "The Show" wasn't a particularly great song, so we really needn't another verse.
Yes, you can have as much as about 35 minutes on an LP, but the sound quality becomes compromised above about 20 minutes. You lose dynamic range, and you also the bottom end. Also, because the grooves are packed tighter, they become much more fragile, making any wear or damage more catastrophic than something that's shorter.
Though thinking about it now, I'm not sure what difference cutting such a short song from the LP would have made.
"Wish You Were Here" was 44:28 long (21 minutes side one and 23:28 side two) yet the sound quality was excellent. The second LP of the very record we're talking about (The Wall) was almost 42 minutes long. Double Genesis album "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" had two over 45-minute LP's. Why couldn't they make side one of first disc longer by 2 minutes or so, is beyond me.
Not sure. Maybe Alan Parker (who was the guy who was REALLY in charge of the movie, despite Roger's best efforts) thought what they filmed didn't work as well, or maybe Parker or someone at the studio thought the film was too long, though I'm not sure how cutting a five minute song would make it "suitably short enough for the cinemaplex" or whatever.
What is the point of a second drummer playing with Nick Mason?!?! I cant figure that out!
Waters criticized the reformed Pink Floyd in 1987 of using support musicians. Yet he brought in support musicians to play with the band for live shows of 'Animals' and 'The Wall'. Go figure
The only thing I didn't like about the reformed Pink Floyd live shows especially during the 'Pulse' tour were the female singers.
they also have an extra bass player because in run like hell a shot of the other bass player in a roger waters mask comes up on the screen also during the 1st in the flesh pink floyd isnt on stage it is doubles with masks on thats why during in the flesh waters has cuirley hair and on the thin ice he doesnt
He (Willie Wilson - the 2nd drummer) was part of the "Surrogate Band" that opened the show and is mentioned so many times throughout the narrative.
If you watch a lot of the videos posted from "The Wall" live shows, he's just playing a tambourine or a cowbell. But as for why they decided to have him double Nick's part on this (and other) songs - anyone's guess is as good as mine.
I remember seeing "p.f. the wall" on the marquees of the movie theaters when I was seven and just knew something special was coming out of it...gotta love the weed driven '70's!
this song is actually soooo heavy and hard rock!! This is why Roger Waters is a genius, he incorporates all the good things of music in his writting. I love this song!!!
You hit the nail in the head! That is so true! Roger was and still a great songwriter. Dave was and is a great guitar player. With Nick and Richard, they were the greatest ban we have seen!
when PF did the wall shows, they used a duplicate for each band member, a surrogate band if you would, which was a part of the shows, I do believe. these guys were awesome in there day
this may be a stupid question but, why are there two drummers?? i regonise nick mason but whos the other guy and why is he there?? they both seem to be playing the same beats to the letter :S thanks
The other drummer's name is Willie Wilson. They had to have extra band members because the sound had to be larger. oh, and so that roger could sing without playing bass.
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it's in the movie for god sake, stop arguing about this song... there's two versions of it so that's cool dont go crazy about it, if you prefer what shall we do, listen to the movie dvd in 5.1, if you want " empty spaces" alone check the album and everybody is happy... lol I'm sorry but there's like a hundred comment about this song that they should have put on the cd, but you can hear the studio version on the movie, so you have it both, don't cry
Hey Mouloudo, you know what Floyd should of done? Do ya? They should of included this song on The Wall album. That's what they should of done Mouloudo, don't you agree?
Every once in a while I think that I have outgrown the melodrama of late Pink Floyd in general (and The Wall in particular) then I remember songs like this - an outtake, for god's sake. While my relationship to this album may ebb and flow over time, I just have to admit it has more brilliant moments than I can count.
What a treat to see this live clip. Prior to youtube I had always heard there were unreleased pro shots from this tour. Great to see. Thanks for posting.
I first heard this when Waters did the Wall in Berlin, For a short filler it doesnt half fuckin kick ass. Anybody with depression or simply disillusioned and fed up with life today. This should be played to them to show them what they feel is natural and they are far from alone in their gloominess
I love this song
achedrick1 7 months ago
1 person that dislikes this has his back to the wall.
AuronTsubaki85 11 months ago 3
DVD release of this now, please Mr Waters.
jayrox40 1 year ago
Drum work is amazing. PLUS, the guitar fill at 0:30 gave me chills.
DMRsounds 1 year ago
mason is pure, class
ffloydmen 1 year ago
I heard The Wall for the first time when I was 8 or 9 years old (beautiful 90's), and I liked every song. But when I listened "What Shall We Do Now" (movie)... man!! I threw all my Menudo and Parchís shit away and I began to be a rocker. A short time later I discovered Hard Rock music, kind of music I'm still loving. But "Pinky" made me grow, and this song was the trigger.
MarceloAvero 1 year ago
1 person didn't buy a new guitar
xamicusx 1 year ago
awsum
TrondheimEastSide 1 year ago
CLASSIC!!!
KillinBrainCellz 1 year ago
Holy fucking shit balls Roger's voice is fucking amazing here, totally predicting the emo scream style that shitty bands today use.
My Chemical Romance's Black Parade owe a huge debt to Roger, this album, and that amazing fucking voice.
TheElusiveBirdMan 1 year ago 2
This shit is da shit! :)
jjobie 1 year ago
@jjobie You got dat shit right.
shep79 1 year ago
yes morrowindsky is correct. the only similarity between calling someone shit and calling them the shit is the word shit.
darkbat657 1 year ago
Holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiit!! : D D D
Art = salvation
andrefreakincreator 1 year ago
floyd is the shit
PTogcurtis 1 year ago 4
This music is perfect, perfect, perfect!
andrefreakincreator 1 year ago
This tour was the shit!!
Chuckk117 1 year ago 4
can't wait to see this live, also they need to remaster this and release it on dvd as well as nine inch nails' lights in the sky tour
elech77 1 year ago
great vid
nineteen6t9 1 year ago
Looking forward to hearing this on the tour.
jgerland 1 year ago
Amused to death was a Masterpiece. The other guys were great musicians together. It truly hurt when Gilmour didn't want to do a reunion tour. I love him to death and he is the best musician out of them, but he had a bad attitude through Live 8. Roger was totally humble. It seems like he has a great outlook now. I never thought I would see the day. Dave should have done it for the fans.
richardburchett 1 year ago 2
THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Erix7810 2 years ago
If it wasn't for Roger the band would have been awful. Compare Amused to Death to the last two Floyd albums.
noradosmith 2 years ago
Thank You
Good Evening
Welcome!
Classic Roger Waters
turkbox420 2 years ago
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MrGariac 2 years ago
I don't get why this song wasn't in the album?
GreatDestructo 2 years ago
@GreatDestructo
They wanted to inclued it but the album was too long for a double vinyl. They but empty spaces instead. But this is stil an important part of the story.
IllusionaryMind8 2 years ago
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@GreatDestructo cuz david gilmour is a douchebag who is jealous of roger's artistic talent.
alby711 2 years ago
@alby711 fuck off, roger has talent but he cant play guitar anything like david, hes mainly good at writing material but he has a pretty shitty voice!!!
ericcarrtime 2 years ago 2
@ericcarrtime all the concept albums were thought of by Roger from dsom to the final cut. Without him there is no concept behind Pink Floyd, just empty spaces and riffs. Rogers art turns that into something awesome... art rock.
alby711 2 years ago
he was a fuckin dictator!!!! calling dave a douchebag is like saying roger wrote all the guitar solos and all the music.
ericcarrtime 2 years ago
that was kinda harsh but I honestly do feel like Roger did a majority of things bc he truly is an artist and artists need control. And since no one else would write, Roger, being the artist he is, took control. but i guess i just don't like dave cuz he won't get over it. during an interview he said "hell no" (or something to that affect) when asked if a reunion was in the future. Then a few months later Rick dies. That just upset me as a fan you know?
alby711 2 years ago 4
I get where you're comin from, i guess its just one floyd fan preferring dave arguing with one who prefers roger, its only natural.
ericcarrtime 2 years ago
I totally agree with you. David was not a perfect guy either, and people are always viewing him as a saint. I am totally on Rogers side, and I don't really view him as a dictator. He was just trying to come up with new material and nobody else was as good of a writer as he was and that must have put a lot of pressure on him.
JohnistheWalrus 2 years ago
i love waters voice
john73a 2 years ago 2
its not bad....its more unique than good though...
ericcarrtime 2 years ago
yeah its very unique
john73a 2 years ago
its still listenable, except for dont leave me now
ericcarrtime 2 years ago
@ericcarrtime your a fuckin idiot and you have no taste in music
BaCoNxBeAnS 1 year ago
all the members from PF were awesome
GWL1961 2 years ago 2
Totally agreed. (:
PrincessKagayaki 2 years ago
I LOVE THE DRUMS IN THIS SONG
smadbm 2 years ago 8
Nick Mason is the shit
SadMoonBabies 2 years ago 93
For all people giving SadMoonBabies all the thumbs down, here's a little hint:
The phrase, "the shit," designates that the person being described as such is excellent at whatever they may do. In fact, it is a compliment.
"The shit" is not to be confused with just "shit," as that would be an insult.
Example: If I were to say that Roger Waters is the shit, that would mean he's awesome.
There's your lesson for today, kids.
morrowindsky 2 years ago 82
@morrowindsky Lesson learned, when listening to music from the old days, don't use new age slang. Old people get angry.(no offense)
happyface4444 1 year ago 2
@morrowindsky
right after u posted that comment, did u notice how the amount of thumbs he got? haha
AfternoonProductions 1 year ago
@morrowindsky We don't need no education! lol felt like the right time to say it.
seba3663 1 year ago
@morrowindsky Waters is the shit (thanks for the teaching!). I had forgotten what a great band was Floyd with him. I mean, It's still a great band, but sadly a broken one, incomplete. Gilmour by himself is too "sober" for the band, Waters is a kind of essential part of PF, indispensable, irreplaceable, and so necessary for the Floyd's balance.
MarceloAvero 1 year ago
Pink Floyd whether this beginning of the end crap is all important they made good stuff in every era of their music
ifoundthiscamera 2 years ago 2
Thank You,, Good Evening, Welcome...
thewalln 2 years ago
q buen tema!!!
nahuel17metal 2 years ago 4
the surrogate band was a part of the wall tour, these shows cost a ton of money for the floyd back then, one may never know all that went on with PF, but I do believe this wall album was the begining of the end for PF, nevertheless there music was and still is awesome
GWL1961 2 years ago 2
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you're exactly right gwl - well actually 'animals' was the beginning of the end - 'the wall' was the end of pink floyd and really it was roger waters debut solo album - which is why it's pretty much garbage (except for 'comfortably numb' - a gilmour number) - i'll take my disdain for waters to my grave - a great bassist, a great lyricist, a brilliant mind, and the sole reason the band broke up - for all his greatness, he was an asshole just the same
michaelp3138 2 years ago
Comforably numb is, in my opinion, the GREATEST Gilmour solo
darthvaderyoda 2 years ago 2
Why this song wasnt put on the studio version of THE WALL i'll never know
THEWRESTLEMANIAC 2 years ago 4
because it was made on vynal records, they didnt have cds, so they didnt have enough room to put it on the record
crazyscottsman22 2 years ago
They did not have enough room.
SRone45 2 years ago
I know, I meant that it sucked that they couldnt put it on the original studio version, thats all
THEWRESTLEMANIAC 2 years ago
It wasn't on the original album because it was too long. They decided they had to cut some of the songs that had been written out to keep it down to just a double LP. In fact, this song was dropped at a very late stage, because the lyric sheets had already been finalized for the first string of pressings.
I dunno if it was changed later, but my LP copy lists this song on the lyric sheet, which also lists Hey You as the song on side three, and The Show Must Go On has an extra verse, as well.
Kohntarkosz 2 years ago
Too long my ass. Just two minutes of additional music, the length of first LP would increase from about 39:00 to 41:00, making it about 21 minutes per side, what's wrong with that? Maximum capacity of a single LP was about 25-30 minutes per side. It's such a stupidity that they dropped it, because for me it is really one of the highlights of the entire concept.
No such feelings about LP2 though, "The Show" wasn't a particularly great song, so we really needn't another verse.
nuncjusz1 2 years ago
Yes, you can have as much as about 35 minutes on an LP, but the sound quality becomes compromised above about 20 minutes. You lose dynamic range, and you also the bottom end. Also, because the grooves are packed tighter, they become much more fragile, making any wear or damage more catastrophic than something that's shorter.
Though thinking about it now, I'm not sure what difference cutting such a short song from the LP would have made.
Kohntarkosz 2 years ago
"Wish You Were Here" was 44:28 long (21 minutes side one and 23:28 side two) yet the sound quality was excellent. The second LP of the very record we're talking about (The Wall) was almost 42 minutes long. Double Genesis album "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" had two over 45-minute LP's. Why couldn't they make side one of first disc longer by 2 minutes or so, is beyond me.
nuncjusz1 2 years ago
why was'nt hey you in the movie?
plofus 2 years ago
Not sure. Maybe Alan Parker (who was the guy who was REALLY in charge of the movie, despite Roger's best efforts) thought what they filmed didn't work as well, or maybe Parker or someone at the studio thought the film was too long, though I'm not sure how cutting a five minute song would make it "suitably short enough for the cinemaplex" or whatever.
Kohntarkosz 2 years ago
the footage they shot, didn't really fit into the movie as a whole. Plus i think it was scrapped to conserve time
Omahasuicidalist 2 years ago
Damn this fucking owns
marcusklaas 2 years ago 2
What is the point of a second drummer playing with Nick Mason?!?! I cant figure that out!
Waters criticized the reformed Pink Floyd in 1987 of using support musicians. Yet he brought in support musicians to play with the band for live shows of 'Animals' and 'The Wall'. Go figure
The only thing I didn't like about the reformed Pink Floyd live shows especially during the 'Pulse' tour were the female singers.
jlsmsu12 2 years ago
I think it's Willy Watson, they have 1 extra keyboard player, 1 extra guitarist and an extra drummer I think.
Aereaunage 2 years ago
they also have an extra bass player because in run like hell a shot of the other bass player in a roger waters mask comes up on the screen also during the 1st in the flesh pink floyd isnt on stage it is doubles with masks on thats why during in the flesh waters has cuirley hair and on the thin ice he doesnt
smadbm 2 years ago
He (Willie Wilson - the 2nd drummer) was part of the "Surrogate Band" that opened the show and is mentioned so many times throughout the narrative.
If you watch a lot of the videos posted from "The Wall" live shows, he's just playing a tambourine or a cowbell. But as for why they decided to have him double Nick's part on this (and other) songs - anyone's guess is as good as mine.
dufortrph 2 years ago
I remember seeing "p.f. the wall" on the marquees of the movie theaters when I was seven and just knew something special was coming out of it...gotta love the weed driven '70's!
cardinaldriver 2 years ago
The Wall movie came out in '82.
SRone45 2 years ago
Wow, really? I remember I was way too young to see it but, yeah, thanks for the correction! :D
cardinaldriver 2 years ago
Too bad they ran out of time to put this on the album...This is nice.
mrichard27 2 years ago 6
Nice is a bit of an understatement, hmm?
Panda4467 2 years ago 3
yes....and "when the tigers broke free" as well
hepenypacker 2 years ago
They put that on a re-release of The Final Cut.
Aereaunage 2 years ago
i know my thoughts exactly
miiwii93 2 years ago
great !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1983csh 2 years ago
a ok ,,,thanks!!
alezanin88 2 years ago
this song is fantastic..i don't know how PF didn't put it on the wall studio album....
It's something fantastic i think...don't?
alezanin88 2 years ago 3
Because at the time, LPs could hold so much and no more. There wasn't any room on the original album.
jo366 2 years ago 3
this song is actually soooo heavy and hard rock!! This is why Roger Waters is a genius, he incorporates all the good things of music in his writting. I love this song!!!
Jeffodious 2 years ago
You hit the nail in the head! That is so true! Roger was and still a great songwriter. Dave was and is a great guitar player. With Nick and Richard, they were the greatest ban we have seen!
micromused 2 years ago 2
Fuck this riff's sweet
Raflmon123 3 years ago 2
when PF did the wall shows, they used a duplicate for each band member, a surrogate band if you would, which was a part of the shows, I do believe. these guys were awesome in there day
GWL1961 3 years ago
cos of the line in In The Flesh - "So they sent us along, as a surrogate band, etc." when Pink has gone all dictator.
smegburgers 2 years ago
this may be a stupid question but, why are there two drummers?? i regonise nick mason but whos the other guy and why is he there?? they both seem to be playing the same beats to the letter :S thanks
theoldergear 3 years ago 2
The other drummer's name is Willie Wilson. They had to have extra band members because the sound had to be larger. oh, and so that roger could sing without playing bass.
jo366 2 years ago
i love the drums of this song T-T
LaLinternaBanda 3 years ago
I wish they kept this in the album :(
saruman84 3 years ago 9
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it's in the movie for god sake, stop arguing about this song... there's two versions of it so that's cool dont go crazy about it, if you prefer what shall we do, listen to the movie dvd in 5.1, if you want " empty spaces" alone check the album and everybody is happy... lol I'm sorry but there's like a hundred comment about this song that they should have put on the cd, but you can hear the studio version on the movie, so you have it both, don't cry
mouloudo 3 years ago
somebody gets bitchy quick! Jesus Christ calm down.
saruman84 3 years ago 3
yeah I know but I'm tired of these kind of comments, the song IS on the movie, wat you're complaining about? two versions is better than one
mouloudo 3 years ago
Hey Mouloudo, you know what Floyd should of done? Do ya? They should of included this song on The Wall album. That's what they should of done Mouloudo, don't you agree?
LePoof 3 years ago
They wanted to but it was too long already, but I like what they have done to the Empty Spaces -> Young Lust bridge on the album, it's cool too
Raflmon123 2 years ago
this is a good soog is number two after anpther brick in the wall
guerreworldwar2 3 years ago
Every once in a while I think that I have outgrown the melodrama of late Pink Floyd in general (and The Wall in particular) then I remember songs like this - an outtake, for god's sake. While my relationship to this album may ebb and flow over time, I just have to admit it has more brilliant moments than I can count.
What a treat to see this live clip. Prior to youtube I had always heard there were unreleased pro shots from this tour. Great to see. Thanks for posting.
crusteous 3 years ago 7
this song was replaced in the vinyl by empty spaces. the couldnt put both because the vinyl couldnt take 2 more minutes
juaniconde 3 years ago
no, no that can't be.. this song really hurts deep inside.. lov' it. love this song.. back to the wall!
mastermind3003 3 years ago
"Thank you, good evening,welcome."
jade77merrill5000 3 years ago 6
Gets me pumbed! AWSOME song.
Only wish it was on the album.
AaronMk91 3 years ago 4
the live album has it "is there anybody out there:the wall live 1980-1981"
and i like some of ther live stuff better
packfan2929 3 years ago
Greatest. Intro. Ever. Gets me going every time!
darksideofthemoo 4 years ago
If only this song wasn't left out of the album itself. Its a good song.
AaronMk91 4 years ago 3
This song rules. WSWDN, what a great fucking song. SO INTENSE, vocally, lyrically, and musically!
matt72582 4 years ago 5
pink rules
Patroclo007 4 years ago
DVD is avalaible of this concert? I have Waters' The wall from 1990 but this one is better i think :s
BlisherMG 4 years ago
I first heard this when Waters did the Wall in Berlin, For a short filler it doesnt half fuckin kick ass. Anybody with depression or simply disillusioned and fed up with life today. This should be played to them to show them what they feel is natural and they are far from alone in their gloominess
blujufirst 4 years ago
Why on earth did they not include this on the original album???
Imadofus 4 years ago 8
They didn't have room for it on the original vinyl version. Hopefully, since the 30th anniversary is approching, maybe they'll relaese it.
RockWarrior97 3 years ago 2
one of the best songs of the disc though it's not on the original release of the wall
luc294 4 years ago 5
Definately one of their best songs, running up right after Another Brick in the Wall.
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clateleonard 4 years ago
im 11 and pink floyds my favorite band
guitarbob79 4 years ago 2
me too my dad plays them on his guitar and took me to which ones pink (look them up on utube) and loved them ever since
petejj19 4 years ago 2
W-T-F its pink floyd DAMN im 23 and I LOVE IT
cadotmolin 4 years ago
HEL YEAH!!!!!
av1les5 4 years ago
O-M-G
arvivpl 4 years ago