Why can't all religions consider other equally good and live peacefully together. I am sick of hearing news of muslims trying to prove themselves bettr nd insult jews. C'mon live nd let live ppl
4.59 This verse is interesting and was sufficient alone to prove my case. ''And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger''. Why does God say ''refer to the messenger'' next to him? He talks about it as a second source which again comes to the point of the hadith.
@mocroroosje18 It is not a second source, it's the same source. Allah is the revelation but it came through the lips of Muhammad, Muhammad ONLY gave them Quran. This was a commandment to people who lived DURING Mohammad's time and the Muslims by that time were almost 10,000 in number. A lot of them had not memorised all the ayah or couldn't right so they asked the prophet to tell them what was written in Quran, to judge for them because he wouldn't make up his own laws, EVER!
59.7 ''And whatever the Messenger has given you - take; and what he has forbidden you - refrain from. And fear Allah ; indeed, Allah is severe in penalty.''
33.36 ''It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter, that they should [thereafter] have any choice about their affair. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly strayed into clear error.''
@mocroroosje18 Same thing, obeying Allah and his messenger means following Quran, not following Quran AND sunna. It's so obvious but you were brainwashed to believe in sunna so you make up your own meaning for the aya. ita9i billah wa la tushriki billahi rassulan. Why would Muhammad contradict Allah in his laws? yet you claim that he did and we should follow him! Allah says lash them, Bukhari claims that Muhammad said stone them. You're not realising your lack of logic...
4.83 ''And when there comes to them information about [public] security or fear, they spread it around. But if they had referred it back to the Messenger or to those of authority among them, then the ones who [can] draw correct conclusions from it would have known about it. And if not for the favor of Allah upon you and His mercy, you would have followed Satan, except for a few.'' I've exceeded the messages.. sorry; to be continued..
@mocroroosje18 Again, the messenger was only commanded to follow the law of God in Quran, you are claiming that he made up new laws to please himself and that we should follow them. It's so simple. Allah reveals law (in quran) to Mohammad, Mohammad follows that law, everyone else follows the law. You claim Allah is referring to sunna but you never doubt why the word sunna doesn't exist in Quran!
Here are some verses where Allah swt commands us muslims to listen to the prophet and to follow his commandments (given by God). The only universal way we can know what the prophet commanded/said and did is trough the hadith.
4.59 O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result. Continued
@mocroroosje18 Yes, we have to obey the messenger by following Allah in the Quran, not him directly, he is not our God. He only brings revelation from Allah and follows that revelation. We are supposed to follow the law that Mohammad follows, which is Quran, not sunna.
@MetallicThor No shitt. You talk to me like I worship the prophet istagfirullah!
No Allah swt refers to hem as a second source and that can only come about trough something like the hadith --> the sunnah.
The consequences for your wanderring: 24.63 ''So let those beware who dissent from the Prophet's order, let fitnah strike them or a painful punishment.''
@mocroroosje18 lol this could easily be referring to the order at Uhud and yes Muslims lost because they disobeyed. This doesn't mean Muhammad could make up his own laws as you claim by following your fake sunna/hadith. I only wonder why you didn't marry when you were 6 years old if you claim to follow his 'sunna'.
YOU WORSHIP MUHAMMAD, you worship him in your prayer. 'allahuma SALI wa SALEM 3ala SAYIDINA Muhammad', this is obvious SHIRK. Muhammad is dead, get over it.
@MetallicThor Your Arabic is lousy if you think that that means that God himself is going to bow for the prophet; istagfirullah!! Now please prove to me that Bukhari and alike are liars. Because you've been jumping around for topic to topic to avoid this. Ps. I don't like it when people scream; especially when it's from men. Next time I see capital letters I'm outta here.
@mocroroosje18 I know Arabic more than you know darija and Nederlands put together! Capital letters is to bolden them, not to shout, I'm not shouting. Sala llahu 3alayh means that Allah bestows his blessings upon Mohammad, that is shirk. Why do I have to keep saying it whilst Muhammad is dead and his soul is with Allah in heaven? We ask Allah to bless Muhammad but he is already in heaven, what's the point?
@MetallicThor Yeah agents/spies are required to know many languages of their enemies I know. Sarcasm: Ow really I didn't know that; I thought that the grave of the prophet was just some kind of decoration.
But the arabic of the quran you suck at. Are you serious? With the blessing thing. Pff just don't oke. It's the biggest nonsense I've ever heard in my life maybe. For you one thing to keep in mind; the khilafa will come eventually; no one can stop it but Allah swt.
@mocroroosje18 The khilafa? We can't even rule ourselves, LOL. Look at us Muslims, the only people who have terrorists and terrorise the world. Yes the US and Europe/NATO are also terrorists but so do we. Bin Laden, Al Qaeda always killing innocent Muslims. I really hate them from the bottom of my heart, more than Bush, more than Obama.
@MetallicThor Again with the mocking. Al qaeda is set up by a JEW. I wouldn't be surprised if you were one because we have allot of those bignosed in Morocco.
@mocroroosje18 LOL, my ancestors were one of the only people who protected Jews and gave them a decent life. Many doctors for the Moroccan kings used to be jews. Research Hasdai ben Shaprut. You believe in stupid theories you can't prove. I work for no one but Allah, to whom I will always pray and prostrate!
@MetallicThor Ow my God what a housenegro are you! Yes we know the history but why do you feel the need to explain yourself to non-muslims constantly? I guess that's what happens when you get lost (disbelieve of the prophets sayings and doings dor example); you lose the confident and imaan of being a muslim like Allah swt wants us to be.
@mocroroosje18 I used to be a sunni, and then I realised that there were many mistakes with this belief. These mistakes were not in Islam as is described in Quran. These were mistakes added by later Muslims who distorted our faith. I didn't reject Hadith because I need to 'explain myself to non-Muslims', no non-Muslim ever talked to me about religion, they're mostly atheists if you notice since you live in Holland. Hshish is not a sign of faithful people...
@MetallicThor Why do you think I see him as God? Are you nuts!
No he is not God istagfirullah; he is our example/role model. They way a muslim should be. I have given you enough evidence that Allah swt refers to the prophet many times to make it clear that we have to follow his practical example. When are you proving that bukhari and others are liars?
@mocroroosje18 I haven't even started and there is plenty of evidence that Bukhari is a liar. Evidence 1= He lived 200 years after the prophet 2 he never studied Quran 3 He claims to have looked at 600,000 hadiths, authenticating each Hadith would take at least an hour, that's 68 years without sleep, drink or food let alone his travels to actually Collect these written hadiths! 4 Bukhari's hadith says Muhammad was a pedophile, that he tortured peoplestoned adulterskilled apostates
@MetallicThor That does not say anything. It took the prophet 23 years for his revelation; does that make it less reliable too ? It took him 40 years. So I don't see the impossibility.
@mocroroosje18 Do you lack logic or something? If it literally took Bukhari 68 years of non-stop Hadith collection/authentication (without one single hour of sleep, without doing ANYTHING else!). 1 hour for each hadith, for 600,000 hadiths = 600,000 hours. 600,000/24 = 25,000 days. 25,000/365 = 68 years of non-stop hadith authentication, NON-STOP!
@mocroroosje18 wow, so you think it would take less than that to authenticate a hadith? What about proving the sanad, the chain of narrators? Mister Bukhari does that in a matter of minutes? WOW, he must be a magician! He just throws hadiths directly into the bin in less than an hour or 30 minutes. He must really care what the prophet said. I also wonder why these accounts were so spread all over the place, from Bukhara to my homeland (Morocco), this guy must have had a car!!!
@MetallicThor When someone get's used to his work he get's faster in it; so no I don't see it as an impossibility. Ugh Moroccan. SubhanaAllah this is why I'm disgusted by my own people; the filth of this universe; they'll do anything to kiss the ass of western kaffir men. Good luck on that; will see what it will bring you.
@mocroroosje18 I kiss the ass of Kaffir men? our whole country is nothing but ass-kissing to the west! Ever heard our parliament or king object to Iraq, to Afghanistan, to Israel, to the US?! You believe all of this will be miraculously solved when the 'Mahdi al Muntadar' comes to slaughter all the Jews and Christians?! I will always speak against their evil deeds, but I don't preach hatred!
@MetallicThor Who says he will call all the jews and christians? There is no killing of innocents in Islam. He probably will kill the wrongdoers among them western leaders and military forces; but no innocents. So stop the lies oké
@mocroroosje18 "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim)
@MetallicThor 2.87 ''But is it [not] that every time a messenger came to you, [O Children of Israel], with what your souls did not desire, you were arrogant? And a party [of messengers] you denied and another party you killed.'' This is just one verse of many that proves the jews being prophetkillers and untrusty;plotting against muslims. I will return to this later; now I m going to do woedoe, pray and sleep. Goodbye!
@mocroroosje18 They killed the prophets and Allah will punish them in the Akhira, not necesarily on Earth. You see, recently Iran released a video warning that the mahdi is soon coming and that the fight against 'mushrikeen' will start soon. I just hope they never get nuclear weapons, they would definitely use them on Israel.
@MetallicThor I don't care about Iran and what her religious leaders say. Sure the average shia could be considered muslim and just shia by culture; but I'm not a fan of their leaders and I couldn't care less what they say about the coming of who; because that knowledge is only known by Allah swt. You are so afraid for the jews to die and never do I hear you about the muslims who are now being slaughtered like their less worth then a fly.
@MetallicThor 2.20 ''And never will the Jews or the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion. Say, "Indeed, the guidance of Allah is the [only] guidance." If you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, you would have against Allah no protector or helper.''
You are like the housenegro but in ''muslim version''; all you talk about is the poor sad jews while your Creator has warned you about them.
@MetallicThor When you say Allah swt will punish them - which will surely happen - is your intention to say that muslims are not allowed to have an army that protects the muslims and their properties?
@MetallicThor PS. even if I was monkey I could be trained to use a calculator; no need for logic in this case. Please think before you typ mister spy.
@mocroroosje18 I just proved to you that it would take him 68 years excluding his daily life (other activities such as sleeping and eating) and all you have to say is that I'm a monkey using a calculator? I'm a spy? I'm an extremely devout Muslim, do I have to literally meet you to prove to you that I exist? staghfirllah!
@MetallicThor No you didn't. You've used the standard of 1 hadith per hour and you don't know that. And no I did not say you're a monkey, come on your English is better then that.
I just don't trust you. Islam without sunnah = fitnah. Everyone will make his own interpretation which is definitely not the case when you have the hadiths with questions of people towards the prophet and his answers.
@mocroroosje18 Isn't it obvious? How else did I know that you spoke darija? You're a Muslim who lives in nederlands and you subscribe to a channel about making Harira, it doesn't even take a monkey to figure it out, hehe.
bghiti nhder b darija denya hanya, ma kayn ta moushkil. Ana baghi ghi tfe9o a ahl sunna w ahl shia bi2anakoum kamlin ghaltin. Ra lwahed ghi la khedem aqlo shwiya ra ghay fhem biana l bukhari kdab kbir ou nessab ou hraymi.
@MetallicThor Nee ik hou het maar op het Nederlands. Nu ik weet dat je Marokkaans bent verklaart het je manipulativee houding en je geschreeuw. Maar daarnaast neem ik je ook niet meer serieus; goeie ochtend nog! Het is bijna fadjr hé. Of hebben jullie dat niet?:P
@MetallicThor haha you just said you would beat me in dutch:P
The translation; I'll keep it in dutch. Now that I know you're Moroccan it explains you're manipulative attitude and yelling. And I don't really take you serious anymore; have a nice morning! It's almost fadjr. Or don't you people pray fadjr:P
@mocroroosje18 So you're racist against your own people? I never claimed I could speak a word of dutch, I said I could speak arabic more than you could speak Dutch.
@MetallicThor I've rarely seen normal thinking Moroccans who are trustworthy and practicing muslims. Maybe the vaccines made most them crazy or maybe a curse because of the black magic that's done so much in Morocco either way good day strange boy.
@mocroroosje18 I'm a normal thinking and reasonable person. I'm a second year university student and I don't waste my time in things that don't benefit me. I pray the five prayers on time every day, I never drink, I never smoke hashish, I don't commit adultery, I ask forgivance from Allah, How do I know YOU are a good practicing Muslim?
@MetallicThor Really you don't waste your time in things that don't benefit you? The discussion we had yesterday was far too long and I feel sorry for wasting too much time on it. Sure a discussion now and then is good to get other insights; but it took the whole night and that was unnecessary. And sorry if I don't believe you are that good of a muslim; but I can't help but think ''kaffir'' when I see your name ''metallic'' in combination with jihad denial and others.
I' m going to sum my answers to your messages in 2 messages; First of all I don't to prove anything. Your the deviation; not me. But I will because the lies are taken out of hand. The verses I gave you prove that there is a law which needs to be followed and you agree with me on this, I recite ''He says follow Allah's law which is in the Quran''. So at this stage you are refuted because first you said there is no sharialaw and you were calling it extreme. To be continued..
@mocroroosje18 You're illogical, the verse only says follow Allah's law which is IN THE QURAN. Is the Hadith IN THE QURAN? Allah actually says 'And if you see those who meddle in Our verses, then turn away from them until they meddle in a different hadith; and if the devil lets you forget, then do not sit after remembering with the wicked people [6:68]'
@MetallicThor The verse is not right.. couldn't you just copy and paste instead of writing it yourself with the possibility of a mistake? What's your point actually because this doesn't prove anything.
@mocroroosje18 You know what I mean English is not my mothertongue so I can't express myself the best I want. Ofcourse Allah swt is the revelation so I don't understand where you get the idea from that the hadiths would imply that the prophet made things up. The reason why the ahadith are so important is that not everybody got the chance to live in the time of the prophet and the prophets are our example. The hadiths give more details about his life.
@khan589 Does not have to do with one's lack of understanding perse. Somethings are shown in practice and there we need the hadith. But most of the things that are done in practice are known by most muslims from father to child for century's like the prayer for example.
Wauw take the hadith away and suddenly you'll become a perfect citizen of the taghut law; you'll put these laws above of God's and when you hear a muslim talk about sharia or khilafa you'll get disgusted. You'll accept everything the west does in the muslimland; because jihad = haram. Sounds like a bad commercial.
@mocroroosje18 I pray every and worship God. I stay away from vile things like fornication and alcohol. I expect my woman and sisters to dress modestly. If you're so afraid of taghut laws then don't apply then, who is forcing you to disbelieve, if not then live in a Muslim country which doesn't accept taghut. Unfortunately all of them are either American worshippers or extremists sharia. You know hadith allows stoning, right? And killing apostates?
@MetallicThor You speak in desires. Really you're talking about topics that concern the non-muslims as if they are tho ones who will decide if you enter paradise or not. If the prophet says it's the case then it is that way. The prophet also got revelations outside the Quran so I don't see why I should reject all hadiths. Someone CAN become an apostate without death just move to another place and do your thing. No need to scream it out to others.
@mocroroosje18 Liar, you believe in sunna and hadith. Hadith says that apostacy is punishable by death and that the prophet killed apostates. By not following sunnat arrassul you are being a kaffir according to you. Therefore, according to you, you should be FIERCELY promoting killing apostates! You claim to follow what muhammad did in your lies of hadith but you don't follow him. You're a hypocrit (munafi9), I rest my case.
@MetallicThor There is no country in the world who applies the sharia as it is. You use the same propaganda as the kuffar ''extremists sharia''. What a shame for a so called better muslim.
@mocroroosje18 Again, all scholars have agreed that sharia is based on sunna, which is based on hadith. ALL scholars agree that killing apostates is permissible. They just don't want to apply it. But they do apply it in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Soon the longbeards will apply it in Lybia and Egypt, Allah has clearly forsaken you people because you turned away and made up your own laws!
@mocroroosje18 brother if Quran is the standard by which a hadith is to be confirmed why not just follow the Quran. it just isn't logical. for example if i have to varify every hadith in Quran then why shouldn't i just read Quran.
@khan589 Well I don't read the hadith that often because LOGICALLY the Quran comes first and I want to try and understand first; but if I want to know how the prophet would act, do, handle a certain thing and I want a practical example then I look into the hadiths. This is not a lack of the Quran. It's simple; the quran is the theory and the prophet--> hadith (that goes more into detail about his life) = practice.
@MetallicThor hadith totally contradicts the purpose why we Muslims memorize Quran. one can add anything into the hadith and since there is no quality control system can undermine Islam.
Muslims are the only people who cannot be Palestinians. Its a shameless lie perpetrated to deny Israel. Those who support this genocidal lie will fall. Today's Jerusalem Post was called The Palestinian Post till 19505, issued in Hebrew & English. The invented Palestinians are the least affected refugees in the world. There are no Muslim Zionists either. Jews don't rob lands and names of others - Muslims do so with all they have.
Jews have never stolen another peoples' land in all their 4000 year history - the reverse applies to Muslims. All 22 regime states are fictions, created 100 years ago by Briton for 30 barrels of oil. The Balfour must be restored, a Coptic state established in Egypt for the original natives of that land, and Lebanon made a Christian state. Israel is a light unto the nations, like it or not its 100% truth.
@BYJOB I disagree, a light unto the nations wouldn't need to slaughter and expel innocent people. Say what you want about Arabic nationalism, it's true I agree. Hell, I'm a Muslim and I would PRAY to Allah that Egypt becomes a coptic state officially, better than the bloody sharia these people are begging for after they fought a revolution. No one is good, all of us have a share in evil, just in different ways :)
@MetallicThor You can't disagree - Jews have never stolen land of another people ever. Muslims are denying truth when they occupy any part of Palestine west of the Jordan river and when they rob names like Palestinians. Muslims are chanting for Nazi-style genocide, being silent of their regimes and cleric's poisonous falsehoods while hiding behind invented Palestinians. All Muslims are guilty as was Europe during the Holocaust. The dumping of huge mosque on sacred sites of others is a crime.
@BYJOB I can assure you there is no Messianic age, as to building the Aqsa and Dome mosques, it was wrong from those who did. The site was never holy to us and I only count it as any normal mosque. Palestinians had a right to live in their land but I also agree that 'muslims are chanting nazi-style genocide' but our people don't realize this unfortunately... They curse Israel for it's actions (which they should) but they are also pure hypocrits and warmongers same as the zionists.
@MetallicThor lol really who are you to speak for muslims and Islam? You clearly refer to the muslims as ''they'' and defending the jews like you are one of them and bashing out your fellow muslims; backstabbing them in front of non-muslims. Either you have an identity crisis or your somekind of an agent/spy/infiltrator.
Their god says " Lie for me, kill for me, DIE for me that you can come to heaven". MY God says " I love you so much that I will come down to you, live like you, suffer like you & die for you so that you can come w/ me to heaven". Which one really sounds like God to you? Which will you choose?
@a717575 Is Hebron the birthplace of Judaism and Monotheism? Someone is telling camel crap fibs with impudence from every cell in their beings. The Hebrew bible is the world's most truthful and scientifically proven document humanity possesses and wherever Islam contradicted it - it fell. This is why Muslims kill those who critisize Islam - and the truth in turn exposes them!
@a717575 You're so easy, stupid but easy. In the koran-suras 16:106,9:3,40:28,2:225,66:2 in the hadith (which you might disclaim but it is being used & taught in every mosque in the world)bukhari 84:64-65,muslim 32:6303,bukhari 50:369 & from islamic law of "reliance of the traveler" codified in every islamic state:Pg. 746, 8.2 / All of the above is commonly used & taught as a form of taqiyya. However,.... you already know this, your denial is just another taqiyya. Your false religion is a lie.
They will be friendly but in the end they are taught that you must convert or be killed. Women are listed like animals or other property to them per the koran & must do as they are told,it describes what type of beatings & punishments are to be administered to the errant females depending on the offence. Also per the koran, it's encouraged to lie to pagans, since they are pagans it's no sin. They are told to kill for their god so they can attain their virgins in heaven.
mohamed = murderer,thief,rapist & Liar! allah = lucifer! islam= pagan religion, they worship stone idols,that's what the kaba is. It's a stone the ancient tribes in arabia say fell from the sky, they started worshiping it & called it's spirit elalah (lord of the kaba) mecca was built around it & they still walk in circles bowing & praying to it. To a ROCK! They aren't peaceful if you dont agree w/ them. Their koran FORBIDS them from having pagan(non mussilm) friends.
@julio14335 No we accept the one who's most convincing mohammed is not convincing to me just as the rules of the koran and sharia. (I read both) We are closer to the muslim in religion than a jew. But we are closer to the Jews in general. Muslims hate our Christian buts anyway so why defending them against the Jews when the Jews do know how to tread someone who's a friend of you.
LOL The 6 day war is proof of how mentally retarded Muslimms are! they couldn't beat a small amount of JEWs! hahahahahahahah bunch of useless cunts LOL
THAT DUMB QATAR WOMAN NEEDS TO WRAP A NIQAB TIGHTLY AROUND HER FACE AND SILENCE HERSELF, AS SHE IS A COMPLETE FOOL. SHE CLAIMS THAT ZIONISM IS NOT RELIGIOUS, THAT SHE HAS READ THE TANAKH, AND ABOUT OUR ACTIONS. IF THIS WERE TRUE, THAN SHE WOULD KNOW THAT THE TORAH TALKS ABOUT WHEN HE WOULD RETURN US FROM THE LANDS OF OUR DISPERSION, AND GO BEFORE US IN BATTLE, AND SO DO THE PROPHETS SAY THIS! THE IGNORANCE IN THE ISLAMIC WORLD IS QUITE SAD, PALESTINIANS ARE A MADE UP PEOPLE, AS OF 1967!
@Menechem zionism is not jewism, but some jews have a zionist false view. zion is the new heavens jerusalem, has nothing to do in the political place. return from dispersion, well you need to learn a little more my son. the dispersion in sin is the true meaning and hashem saves yes, he saves sinners and brings them to heaven! while i am not protescting arabs islam against jews, because its wrong and useing bible is also wrong in that political matter!
@Ahridium777 You telling me that I need to learn more, when you've made an absolute fool out of yourself is really, quite sad. Read all I said, and go and learn in silence!
@Menechem you do fool of yourself, not me. you know well were honey and milk flooded right?you know that the paradise was in today persian gulf were ar aden is in irak? you know were eurphrat and tigris is right? strange but in kanaan there is no milk and honey and how do god fight only for one people against the whole rest of the world? does not all people belong to god and all lands?who do you fool?do you understand that god wants peace and not war?are you saying the lord yah is
@Menechem makeing war for you against others? but so do allah? or not? now do allah fight with yahveh and yahveh fight with allah? or what yu want say? do u still not understand that the lord yah wants love and not war?porr soul wake up b4 is tolate.
@Ahridium777 shall i quote our liturgy, that is over 2,000 years old to you? In it there are prayeres for rain for our land, blessing for our land, and to be returned to our land. Furthermore, HaShem has promised to return us to our land, and go before us in battle, and this is what He is doing now! I do need any education from you, I was Orthodox before I came to Christ, I am now a seminary student, and a believer in God's word! YOU ARE WRONG NOT ME! I GO BY WHAT SCRIPTURE STATES! KEEP QUIET!
That Schmuck who was speaking for most of the time, after the eloquent Jew, claims that the Jews and the Nazi's were in cahoots, does he not realize that as Hitler was reeking havoc on my people in the Ashkenzai world, he also formed a strong friendship with the grand mufti of Jerusalem? What a fool! A JEW, IS A JEW, WHO IS A JEW. WE ARE ONE PEOPLE, NOTHING DIFFERS BETWEEN A ZINONIST JEW, AND ISRAELI JEW, AND A JEW IN NEW YORK, WE HAVE THE SAME DNA!
@Ahridium777 A real Jew knows that Israel was also knows that in our history there was a Northern Kingdom (Israel), and the Southern Kingdom (Judah), which the Bible talks about, and history backs up (the divided kingdom was prior to the Babylonian exile). You really need to do some study, before you tell others they need to learn a bit more.If HaShem did not want us back in the land than he would not have defied military logistics and aloud us to win the Yom Kippur War,when we were outnumbered!
JEWS ARE ZIONISTS, IT'S IN OUR DNA! IT'S OUR LAND, OUR INHERITANCE IS THE LAND OF "PALESTINE", GAZA, THE WEST BANK, AND SO FORTH. HASHEM PROMISED TO RETURN USTO OUR LAND, AND GO BEFORE US IN BATTLE IN THE LAST DAYS, HE IS DOING THIS NOW. YOU MUSLIMS, CAN HATE US ALL YOU WANT, BUT IT WILL BE YOU WHO WILL HAVE TO REPENT! BTW, THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW, AND ACCORDING TO THE PROPHET ZECHARIAH THOSE WHO ROSE UP AGAINST US WILL BE FORCED TO WORSHIP ON SUCOT IN JERUSALEM, OR FACE THE WRATH OF GOD!
you are completly wrong, while all jews should be spiritually zionist, not all jews are, while almost all zionist jews are false zionist metrial and doing a false war and theyr teaching is based on a lie!
@Ahridium777 YOU'RE THE ONE WHO IS WRONG, ALL THROUGHOUT SCRIPTURE, STARTING IN DEUTERONOMY, GOD PROMISED US THAT HE WOULD RETURN US TO OUR LAND IN THE LAST DAYS AND GO BEFORE US IN BATTLE. THIS IS WHAT HE IS DOING NOW! I AM NOT THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO LEARN MORE, YOU ARE! AS A JEW, AND A BORN AGAIN, BIBLE BELIEVING ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN, I WILL TRUST GOD BEFORE MEN, ESPECIALLY FOOLS LIKE YOU!
@Menechem i am a ortho christian, you should know what new zion is, you should know what new jerusalem is as a orthodox christian you should know what god promisses as land, you should know that.
@Ahridium777 If I was completely wrong (which I am not), than why is it that those who are not religious, still want to live in the land of the Bible, the land of our ancestors? Just because they may not be Orthodox (as I was), HaShem is still moving, and bringing His word to pass, because HE IS ALWAYS FAITHFUL, thus you have no argument! Israel may not be entirely perfect as it is lead by men, but it is still proof of God's faithfulness!
@Menechem seems that you dont know who the enw israel is and seems you are not aware of the holy zion. i am not saying that jews have no right to live in israel and i am also not saying that palestianians have or haven't right to stay. i do simply refer to you comment about the eartly missinterpretation of the bible you have about zion and the promissed kingdom of god witch is the same.
The point is that you have a Jewish woman who is merely stating that Muslim leaders should do more to curb anti-Jewish sentiment in the 21st century, and you have that irrational, delusional Muslim woman responding with anecdotes from millenia old religious texts.
You demand that we respect Islam and your prophet, yet you refuse to show anyone else the same respect. This is hypocrisy.
@AllAbtPeaceAndLove72 Sura5, vs. 33 & sura9 vs.5. You might want to try reading it yourself, of course it is COMPLETLY full of contradictions. It is also a book of lies. Your prophet even admits that your "god" allah. is the greatest of decievers. If YOU'VE really read it then you knoe exactly where this phrase is written.
@a717575 As I proved above,....you are no challenge.Your god says lie for me,kill for me,die for me..that you can gain your virgins & get into heaven.My GOD says "I love you so much that I will come to earth,live like you suffer for you & die for you that you may join me in heaven.You're in my prayers that you will come to the saving grace of YESHUA(he who said "I & my father am one, that which is my fathers is mine & no man can come to the father lest it be thru me.")He's the living son of GOD.
She talks about an orthodox family, SUPER RELIGIOUS jews,
Everyone whose SUPER religious is a brainless zombie.
I bet that in every (religious)Arabic school in the middle east, EVERY student hears the same about Jews, this will never end, as long as religion exists.
I hope that the younger generation will be wiser...
I'm am Israeli, i DO NOT HATE Arabs, peace. :) Happy new year :)
@Romalainen I'm a Muslim, there will never be peace until BOTH Muslims and Jews accept peace. The zionist government is pure evil but so are Arab/Muslim leaders. No one is doing anything for real peace. Israel conquered the Palestinians land but what shall be done now, kick them out?! That's ridiculous... Stop hatemongering on both sides, accept a 2 state. Both unite against extreme right zionism and the bloody terrorists (Hamas, Fath and Hizbollah). Salam/Shalom
As neither a jew nor muslim, i would have to say muslims are much nicer and honest in my experiences in school and work. jews disrespects people that aren;t jews, think their too good for anyone. strange out of all the muslims i've talked to, none of them act like terrorists portrayed by the media.
@RiotOfficer1990 RESERCH THE JEWISH TERRORISTES U WILL SEE HOWMANY TIMES THEY TRID TO BLAME THE MUSLIMS BUT IT WAS THEM JEWS AND THEY GOT COUGHT EAVEN SHOWING AND PROVING THE REST OF THE WORLD THAT 3000 JEWS DID NOT COME TO WORK ON 9\11 ITS 100% PROVE THEY DID IT
@RiotOfficer1990 I don't agree the nice behaviour of a muslim is not real. A jew won't rape a girl because she's not jewish.A jew won't beat someone up or curse at someone if that person is not jewish.A muslim does! A muslim doesn't know the word respect or the line I must behave in someone else his country.I never heard that a jewish gang attacking people in a group or rape a underage girl just because their not jewish.I will ask ye this: have ye read the law of sharia?
@blackjack7gek a muslim does none of what u mentioned fool. jews have been hatted over all parts of the word over history.. there is a reason for that.. it because u guys are assholes.
@a717575 Muslims do what I mentioned especially in holland fool. I don't say jews are the perfect race, but better than muslims. I'm not a jew I'm a Catholic and proud (not a big fan of the vatican) you should noticed that when you read my previous message. Muslims have fights also all over the world like: Europe, Asia, Southern America etc. (because their assholes)
@blackjack7gek You mean the genocide on muslims? Not nice for you to accuse the millions of dead muslims including children for being terrorist as you're words imply.
@mocroroosje18 Ridiculous, those people are the true martyrs, not those terrorist hizbollah and Hamas. Don't you see how they are making things worse and giving Israel excuses to kill more Palestinians? Zionism doesn't favour peace but neither do Arabs in general. Stop being one-sided.
@MetallicThor The true martyrs really? I' m not buying it sorry. Stealing land, killing it's people and lie about history is the most demonic thing you can do. We'll see when the last battle starts.. Can't wait till the muslim army kicks those fake jews out and muslims can finally live at peace and be left alone.
@mocroroosje18 You didn't understand, Palestinians are the true martyrs is what I meant. Doesn't excuse the actions of those terrorist/murderers Hizbollah. They are led by political agendas (they support Bashar btw.. look it up). No Muslim army would ever kick the Jews out of Palestine, Allah will never support such atrocious acts of slaughter. There is no Mahdi, no second coming of Jesus ya habibi, just Allah and faithful Muslim worshippers who DON'T slaughter ppl.
@MetallicThor Hisbullah and Hamas are still muslim and I favor them without any doubt above any Israeli. Israeli's live there as occupiers; now if they want to live there they can come back after the Israeli state is brought to fall with will happen sooner or later (probably trough a coup). No where did I mention slaughter; don't twist words.
@MetallicThor Denying what will happen in the end of times according to the quran and sunna (the return of Isa as and the mahdi) is kufr, so watch your mouth. Ps. Keep your ''habibi'' with you by the way.
@mocroroosje18 It's kufr? Yalaka min kathib! Tell me exactly where God commands us to expect the coming Mahdi in the Quran, I challenge you!
Further on, tell me the point of the Mahdi's coming and Issa. Why does Allah send them to us to slaughter all Jews and Christians and establish the 'universal' caliphate? Oh, I forgot that Jesus will also slaughter the pigs, I hope no one ends up eating them, it's haram you know?
@MetallicThor The prophet is mentioned in the quran as our example who we have to follow, but it does not go into detail about the prophets sayings and doings. The hadiths do. Do you have prove that Bukhari and alike were liars?
@MetallicThor My prove is logic. God is not going to tolerate another conspiracy (after the bible was corrupted etc.) after he said this: 5.3 ''This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion.'' According to you God couldn't make up his promise istagfirullah.
Why can't all religions consider other equally good and live peacefully together. I am sick of hearing news of muslims trying to prove themselves bettr nd insult jews. C'mon live nd let live ppl
kawaii28asd 2 days ago
4.59 This verse is interesting and was sufficient alone to prove my case. ''And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger''. Why does God say ''refer to the messenger'' next to him? He talks about it as a second source which again comes to the point of the hadith.
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 It is not a second source, it's the same source. Allah is the revelation but it came through the lips of Muhammad, Muhammad ONLY gave them Quran. This was a commandment to people who lived DURING Mohammad's time and the Muslims by that time were almost 10,000 in number. A lot of them had not memorised all the ayah or couldn't right so they asked the prophet to tell them what was written in Quran, to judge for them because he wouldn't make up his own laws, EVER!
MetallicThor 5 days ago
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mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@MetallicThor If you can't accept this concept you seriously have a problem.
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
59.7 ''And whatever the Messenger has given you - take; and what he has forbidden you - refrain from. And fear Allah ; indeed, Allah is severe in penalty.''
33.36 ''It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter, that they should [thereafter] have any choice about their affair. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly strayed into clear error.''
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 Same thing, obeying Allah and his messenger means following Quran, not following Quran AND sunna. It's so obvious but you were brainwashed to believe in sunna so you make up your own meaning for the aya. ita9i billah wa la tushriki billahi rassulan. Why would Muhammad contradict Allah in his laws? yet you claim that he did and we should follow him! Allah says lash them, Bukhari claims that Muhammad said stone them. You're not realising your lack of logic...
MetallicThor 5 days ago
4.83 ''And when there comes to them information about [public] security or fear, they spread it around. But if they had referred it back to the Messenger or to those of authority among them, then the ones who [can] draw correct conclusions from it would have known about it. And if not for the favor of Allah upon you and His mercy, you would have followed Satan, except for a few.'' I've exceeded the messages.. sorry; to be continued..
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 Again, the messenger was only commanded to follow the law of God in Quran, you are claiming that he made up new laws to please himself and that we should follow them. It's so simple. Allah reveals law (in quran) to Mohammad, Mohammad follows that law, everyone else follows the law. You claim Allah is referring to sunna but you never doubt why the word sunna doesn't exist in Quran!
MetallicThor 5 days ago
Here are some verses where Allah swt commands us muslims to listen to the prophet and to follow his commandments (given by God). The only universal way we can know what the prophet commanded/said and did is trough the hadith.
4.59 O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result. Continued
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 Yes, we have to obey the messenger by following Allah in the Quran, not him directly, he is not our God. He only brings revelation from Allah and follows that revelation. We are supposed to follow the law that Mohammad follows, which is Quran, not sunna.
MetallicThor 5 days ago
@MetallicThor No shitt. You talk to me like I worship the prophet istagfirullah!
No Allah swt refers to hem as a second source and that can only come about trough something like the hadith --> the sunnah.
The consequences for your wanderring: 24.63 ''So let those beware who dissent from the Prophet's order, let fitnah strike them or a painful punishment.''
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 lol this could easily be referring to the order at Uhud and yes Muslims lost because they disobeyed. This doesn't mean Muhammad could make up his own laws as you claim by following your fake sunna/hadith. I only wonder why you didn't marry when you were 6 years old if you claim to follow his 'sunna'.
YOU WORSHIP MUHAMMAD, you worship him in your prayer. 'allahuma SALI wa SALEM 3ala SAYIDINA Muhammad', this is obvious SHIRK. Muhammad is dead, get over it.
MetallicThor 5 days ago
@MetallicThor Your Arabic is lousy if you think that that means that God himself is going to bow for the prophet; istagfirullah!! Now please prove to me that Bukhari and alike are liars. Because you've been jumping around for topic to topic to avoid this. Ps. I don't like it when people scream; especially when it's from men. Next time I see capital letters I'm outta here.
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 I know Arabic more than you know darija and Nederlands put together! Capital letters is to bolden them, not to shout, I'm not shouting. Sala llahu 3alayh means that Allah bestows his blessings upon Mohammad, that is shirk. Why do I have to keep saying it whilst Muhammad is dead and his soul is with Allah in heaven? We ask Allah to bless Muhammad but he is already in heaven, what's the point?
MetallicThor 5 days ago
@MetallicThor Yeah agents/spies are required to know many languages of their enemies I know. Sarcasm: Ow really I didn't know that; I thought that the grave of the prophet was just some kind of decoration.
But the arabic of the quran you suck at. Are you serious? With the blessing thing. Pff just don't oke. It's the biggest nonsense I've ever heard in my life maybe. For you one thing to keep in mind; the khilafa will come eventually; no one can stop it but Allah swt.
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 The khilafa? We can't even rule ourselves, LOL. Look at us Muslims, the only people who have terrorists and terrorise the world. Yes the US and Europe/NATO are also terrorists but so do we. Bin Laden, Al Qaeda always killing innocent Muslims. I really hate them from the bottom of my heart, more than Bush, more than Obama.
MetallicThor 5 days ago
@MetallicThor Again with the mocking. Al qaeda is set up by a JEW. I wouldn't be surprised if you were one because we have allot of those bignosed in Morocco.
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 LOL, my ancestors were one of the only people who protected Jews and gave them a decent life. Many doctors for the Moroccan kings used to be jews. Research Hasdai ben Shaprut. You believe in stupid theories you can't prove. I work for no one but Allah, to whom I will always pray and prostrate!
MetallicThor 5 days ago
@MetallicThor Ow my God what a housenegro are you! Yes we know the history but why do you feel the need to explain yourself to non-muslims constantly? I guess that's what happens when you get lost (disbelieve of the prophets sayings and doings dor example); you lose the confident and imaan of being a muslim like Allah swt wants us to be.
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 I used to be a sunni, and then I realised that there were many mistakes with this belief. These mistakes were not in Islam as is described in Quran. These were mistakes added by later Muslims who distorted our faith. I didn't reject Hadith because I need to 'explain myself to non-Muslims', no non-Muslim ever talked to me about religion, they're mostly atheists if you notice since you live in Holland. Hshish is not a sign of faithful people...
MetallicThor 5 days ago
@MetallicThor Why do you think I see him as God? Are you nuts!
No he is not God istagfirullah; he is our example/role model. They way a muslim should be. I have given you enough evidence that Allah swt refers to the prophet many times to make it clear that we have to follow his practical example. When are you proving that bukhari and others are liars?
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 I haven't even started and there is plenty of evidence that Bukhari is a liar. Evidence 1= He lived 200 years after the prophet 2 he never studied Quran 3 He claims to have looked at 600,000 hadiths, authenticating each Hadith would take at least an hour, that's 68 years without sleep, drink or food let alone his travels to actually Collect these written hadiths! 4 Bukhari's hadith says Muhammad was a pedophile, that he tortured peoplestoned adulterskilled apostates
MetallicThor 5 days ago
@MetallicThor That does not say anything. It took the prophet 23 years for his revelation; does that make it less reliable too ? It took him 40 years. So I don't see the impossibility.
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 Do you lack logic or something? If it literally took Bukhari 68 years of non-stop Hadith collection/authentication (without one single hour of sleep, without doing ANYTHING else!). 1 hour for each hadith, for 600,000 hadiths = 600,000 hours. 600,000/24 = 25,000 days. 25,000/365 = 68 years of non-stop hadith authentication, NON-STOP!
MetallicThor 5 days ago
@MetallicThor A spie should be more smart then this. You've used the standard of one hour not me.
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 wow, so you think it would take less than that to authenticate a hadith? What about proving the sanad, the chain of narrators? Mister Bukhari does that in a matter of minutes? WOW, he must be a magician! He just throws hadiths directly into the bin in less than an hour or 30 minutes. He must really care what the prophet said. I also wonder why these accounts were so spread all over the place, from Bukhara to my homeland (Morocco), this guy must have had a car!!!
MetallicThor 5 days ago
@MetallicThor When someone get's used to his work he get's faster in it; so no I don't see it as an impossibility. Ugh Moroccan. SubhanaAllah this is why I'm disgusted by my own people; the filth of this universe; they'll do anything to kiss the ass of western kaffir men. Good luck on that; will see what it will bring you.
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 I kiss the ass of Kaffir men? our whole country is nothing but ass-kissing to the west! Ever heard our parliament or king object to Iraq, to Afghanistan, to Israel, to the US?! You believe all of this will be miraculously solved when the 'Mahdi al Muntadar' comes to slaughter all the Jews and Christians?! I will always speak against their evil deeds, but I don't preach hatred!
MetallicThor 5 days ago
@MetallicThor Who says he will call all the jews and christians? There is no killing of innocents in Islam. He probably will kill the wrongdoers among them western leaders and military forces; but no innocents. So stop the lies oké
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim)
MetallicThor 5 days ago
@MetallicThor 2.87 ''But is it [not] that every time a messenger came to you, [O Children of Israel], with what your souls did not desire, you were arrogant? And a party [of messengers] you denied and another party you killed.'' This is just one verse of many that proves the jews being prophetkillers and untrusty;plotting against muslims. I will return to this later; now I m going to do woedoe, pray and sleep. Goodbye!
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 They killed the prophets and Allah will punish them in the Akhira, not necesarily on Earth. You see, recently Iran released a video warning that the mahdi is soon coming and that the fight against 'mushrikeen' will start soon. I just hope they never get nuclear weapons, they would definitely use them on Israel.
MetallicThor 5 days ago
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@MetallicThor I don't care about Iran and what her religious leaders say. Sure the average shia could be considered muslim and just shia by culture; but I'm not a fan of their leaders and I couldn't care less what they say about the coming of who; because that knowledge is only known by Allah swt. You are so afraid for the jews to die and never do I hear you about the muslims who are now being slaughtered like their less worth then a fly.
mocroroosje18 4 days ago
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@MetallicThor 2.20 ''And never will the Jews or the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion. Say, "Indeed, the guidance of Allah is the [only] guidance." If you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, you would have against Allah no protector or helper.''
You are like the housenegro but in ''muslim version''; all you talk about is the poor sad jews while your Creator has warned you about them.
mocroroosje18 4 days ago
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@MetallicThor When you say Allah swt will punish them - which will surely happen - is your intention to say that muslims are not allowed to have an army that protects the muslims and their properties?
mocroroosje18 4 days ago
@MetallicThor PS. even if I was monkey I could be trained to use a calculator; no need for logic in this case. Please think before you typ mister spy.
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 I just proved to you that it would take him 68 years excluding his daily life (other activities such as sleeping and eating) and all you have to say is that I'm a monkey using a calculator? I'm a spy? I'm an extremely devout Muslim, do I have to literally meet you to prove to you that I exist? staghfirllah!
MetallicThor 5 days ago
@MetallicThor No you didn't. You've used the standard of 1 hadith per hour and you don't know that. And no I did not say you're a monkey, come on your English is better then that.
I just don't trust you. Islam without sunnah = fitnah. Everyone will make his own interpretation which is definitely not the case when you have the hadiths with questions of people towards the prophet and his answers.
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@MetallicThor Are you Moroccan by the way?
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 Isn't it obvious? How else did I know that you spoke darija? You're a Muslim who lives in nederlands and you subscribe to a channel about making Harira, it doesn't even take a monkey to figure it out, hehe.
bghiti nhder b darija denya hanya, ma kayn ta moushkil. Ana baghi ghi tfe9o a ahl sunna w ahl shia bi2anakoum kamlin ghaltin. Ra lwahed ghi la khedem aqlo shwiya ra ghay fhem biana l bukhari kdab kbir ou nessab ou hraymi.
MetallicThor 5 days ago
@MetallicThor Nee ik hou het maar op het Nederlands. Nu ik weet dat je Marokkaans bent verklaart het je manipulativee houding en je geschreeuw. Maar daarnaast neem ik je ook niet meer serieus; goeie ochtend nog! Het is bijna fadjr hé. Of hebben jullie dat niet?:P
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 I speak a little German but not Dutch, I only understood a few words. please repeat it in english.
MetallicThor 5 days ago
@MetallicThor haha you just said you would beat me in dutch:P
The translation; I'll keep it in dutch. Now that I know you're Moroccan it explains you're manipulative attitude and yelling. And I don't really take you serious anymore; have a nice morning! It's almost fadjr. Or don't you people pray fadjr:P
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 So you're racist against your own people? I never claimed I could speak a word of dutch, I said I could speak arabic more than you could speak Dutch.
MetallicThor 5 days ago
@MetallicThor I've rarely seen normal thinking Moroccans who are trustworthy and practicing muslims. Maybe the vaccines made most them crazy or maybe a curse because of the black magic that's done so much in Morocco either way good day strange boy.
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 I'm a normal thinking and reasonable person. I'm a second year university student and I don't waste my time in things that don't benefit me. I pray the five prayers on time every day, I never drink, I never smoke hashish, I don't commit adultery, I ask forgivance from Allah, How do I know YOU are a good practicing Muslim?
MetallicThor 5 days ago
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@MetallicThor Really you don't waste your time in things that don't benefit you? The discussion we had yesterday was far too long and I feel sorry for wasting too much time on it. Sure a discussion now and then is good to get other insights; but it took the whole night and that was unnecessary. And sorry if I don't believe you are that good of a muslim; but I can't help but think ''kaffir'' when I see your name ''metallic'' in combination with jihad denial and others.
mocroroosje18 4 days ago
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mocroroosje18 5 days ago
I' m going to sum my answers to your messages in 2 messages; First of all I don't to prove anything. Your the deviation; not me. But I will because the lies are taken out of hand. The verses I gave you prove that there is a law which needs to be followed and you agree with me on this, I recite ''He says follow Allah's law which is in the Quran''. So at this stage you are refuted because first you said there is no sharialaw and you were calling it extreme. To be continued..
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 You're illogical, the verse only says follow Allah's law which is IN THE QURAN. Is the Hadith IN THE QURAN? Allah actually says 'And if you see those who meddle in Our verses, then turn away from them until they meddle in a different hadith; and if the devil lets you forget, then do not sit after remembering with the wicked people [6:68]'
MetallicThor 5 days ago
@MetallicThor The verse is not right.. couldn't you just copy and paste instead of writing it yourself with the possibility of a mistake? What's your point actually because this doesn't prove anything.
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
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@mocroroosje18 You know what I mean English is not my mothertongue so I can't express myself the best I want. Ofcourse Allah swt is the revelation so I don't understand where you get the idea from that the hadiths would imply that the prophet made things up. The reason why the ahadith are so important is that not everybody got the chance to live in the time of the prophet and the prophets are our example. The hadiths give more details about his life.
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 when u say "I want a practical example " are I implying partiality of Quran or lack of ones insertsnding.
khan589 5 days ago
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mocroroosje18 5 days ago
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@khan589 Does not have to do with one's lack of understanding perse. Somethings are shown in practice and there we need the hadith. But most of the things that are done in practice are known by most muslims from father to child for century's like the prayer for example.
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
Wauw take the hadith away and suddenly you'll become a perfect citizen of the taghut law; you'll put these laws above of God's and when you hear a muslim talk about sharia or khilafa you'll get disgusted. You'll accept everything the west does in the muslimland; because jihad = haram. Sounds like a bad commercial.
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 I pray every and worship God. I stay away from vile things like fornication and alcohol. I expect my woman and sisters to dress modestly. If you're so afraid of taghut laws then don't apply then, who is forcing you to disbelieve, if not then live in a Muslim country which doesn't accept taghut. Unfortunately all of them are either American worshippers or extremists sharia. You know hadith allows stoning, right? And killing apostates?
MetallicThor 5 days ago
@MetallicThor You speak in desires. Really you're talking about topics that concern the non-muslims as if they are tho ones who will decide if you enter paradise or not. If the prophet says it's the case then it is that way. The prophet also got revelations outside the Quran so I don't see why I should reject all hadiths. Someone CAN become an apostate without death just move to another place and do your thing. No need to scream it out to others.
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 Liar, you believe in sunna and hadith. Hadith says that apostacy is punishable by death and that the prophet killed apostates. By not following sunnat arrassul you are being a kaffir according to you. Therefore, according to you, you should be FIERCELY promoting killing apostates! You claim to follow what muhammad did in your lies of hadith but you don't follow him. You're a hypocrit (munafi9), I rest my case.
MetallicThor 5 days ago
@MetallicThor There is no country in the world who applies the sharia as it is. You use the same propaganda as the kuffar ''extremists sharia''. What a shame for a so called better muslim.
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 Again, all scholars have agreed that sharia is based on sunna, which is based on hadith. ALL scholars agree that killing apostates is permissible. They just don't want to apply it. But they do apply it in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Soon the longbeards will apply it in Lybia and Egypt, Allah has clearly forsaken you people because you turned away and made up your own laws!
MetallicThor 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 i mean it logically defeats the purpose why hadith should exist.
khan589 5 days ago
@mocroroosje18 brother if Quran is the standard by which a hadith is to be confirmed why not just follow the Quran. it just isn't logical. for example if i have to varify every hadith in Quran then why shouldn't i just read Quran.
khan589 5 days ago
@khan589 What was Aisha actually doing when she collected the prophet's sayings and doings?
mocroroosje18 5 days ago
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@khan589 Well I don't read the hadith that often because LOGICALLY the Quran comes first and I want to try and understand first; but if I want to know how the prophet would act, do, handle a certain thing and I want a practical example then I look into the hadiths. This is not a lack of the Quran. It's simple; the quran is the theory and the prophet--> hadith (that goes more into detail about his life) = practice.
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mocroroosje18 6 days ago
@MetallicThor hadith totally contradicts the purpose why we Muslims memorize Quran. one can add anything into the hadith and since there is no quality control system can undermine Islam.
khan589 6 days ago
Muslims are the only people who cannot be Palestinians. Its a shameless lie perpetrated to deny Israel. Those who support this genocidal lie will fall. Today's Jerusalem Post was called The Palestinian Post till 19505, issued in Hebrew & English. The invented Palestinians are the least affected refugees in the world. There are no Muslim Zionists either. Jews don't rob lands and names of others - Muslims do so with all they have.
BYJOB 6 days ago
haha that big nosed moroccan 7.20:P pfff I m ashamed to be moroccan now.
mocroroosje18 1 week ago
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TheFreemanontheland7 1 week ago
Jews have never stolen another peoples' land in all their 4000 year history - the reverse applies to Muslims. All 22 regime states are fictions, created 100 years ago by Briton for 30 barrels of oil. The Balfour must be restored, a Coptic state established in Egypt for the original natives of that land, and Lebanon made a Christian state. Israel is a light unto the nations, like it or not its 100% truth.
BYJOB 1 week ago
@BYJOB I disagree, a light unto the nations wouldn't need to slaughter and expel innocent people. Say what you want about Arabic nationalism, it's true I agree. Hell, I'm a Muslim and I would PRAY to Allah that Egypt becomes a coptic state officially, better than the bloody sharia these people are begging for after they fought a revolution. No one is good, all of us have a share in evil, just in different ways :)
MetallicThor 6 days ago
@MetallicThor Hmm interesting a muslim who sees God's commandments as evil.
mocroroosje18 6 days ago
@mocroroosje18 Allah never commanded those things. A liar called Bukhari claims that after 200 years he knows what Muhammad said...
MetallicThor 6 days ago
@MetallicThor Oké now I know the kind of person you are. Now I understand your attitude very well.
mocroroosje18 6 days ago
@MetallicThor You can't disagree - Jews have never stolen land of another people ever. Muslims are denying truth when they occupy any part of Palestine west of the Jordan river and when they rob names like Palestinians. Muslims are chanting for Nazi-style genocide, being silent of their regimes and cleric's poisonous falsehoods while hiding behind invented Palestinians. All Muslims are guilty as was Europe during the Holocaust. The dumping of huge mosque on sacred sites of others is a crime.
BYJOB 6 days ago
@BYJOB I can assure you there is no Messianic age, as to building the Aqsa and Dome mosques, it was wrong from those who did. The site was never holy to us and I only count it as any normal mosque. Palestinians had a right to live in their land but I also agree that 'muslims are chanting nazi-style genocide' but our people don't realize this unfortunately... They curse Israel for it's actions (which they should) but they are also pure hypocrits and warmongers same as the zionists.
MetallicThor 6 days ago
@MetallicThor lol really who are you to speak for muslims and Islam? You clearly refer to the muslims as ''they'' and defending the jews like you are one of them and bashing out your fellow muslims; backstabbing them in front of non-muslims. Either you have an identity crisis or your somekind of an agent/spy/infiltrator.
mocroroosje18 6 days ago
Their god says " Lie for me, kill for me, DIE for me that you can come to heaven". MY God says " I love you so much that I will come down to you, live like you, suffer like you & die for you so that you can come w/ me to heaven". Which one really sounds like God to you? Which will you choose?
THEFAITHFULPALADIN 1 week ago
@THEFAITHFULPALADIN allah never said lie u fukin retard.. show me where ??? i challenge u.
a717575 1 week ago
@a717575 Is Hebron the birthplace of Judaism and Monotheism? Someone is telling camel crap fibs with impudence from every cell in their beings. The Hebrew bible is the world's most truthful and scientifically proven document humanity possesses and wherever Islam contradicted it - it fell. This is why Muslims kill those who critisize Islam - and the truth in turn exposes them!
BYJOB 1 week ago
@a717575 You're so easy, stupid but easy. In the koran-suras 16:106,9:3,40:28,2:225,66:2 in the hadith (which you might disclaim but it is being used & taught in every mosque in the world)bukhari 84:64-65,muslim 32:6303,bukhari 50:369 & from islamic law of "reliance of the traveler" codified in every islamic state:Pg. 746, 8.2 / All of the above is commonly used & taught as a form of taqiyya. However,.... you already know this, your denial is just another taqiyya. Your false religion is a lie.
THEFAITHFULPALADIN 4 days ago
They will be friendly but in the end they are taught that you must convert or be killed. Women are listed like animals or other property to them per the koran & must do as they are told,it describes what type of beatings & punishments are to be administered to the errant females depending on the offence. Also per the koran, it's encouraged to lie to pagans, since they are pagans it's no sin. They are told to kill for their god so they can attain their virgins in heaven.
THEFAITHFULPALADIN 1 week ago 2
mohamed = murderer,thief,rapist & Liar! allah = lucifer! islam= pagan religion, they worship stone idols,that's what the kaba is. It's a stone the ancient tribes in arabia say fell from the sky, they started worshiping it & called it's spirit elalah (lord of the kaba) mecca was built around it & they still walk in circles bowing & praying to it. To a ROCK! They aren't peaceful if you dont agree w/ them. Their koran FORBIDS them from having pagan(non mussilm) friends.
THEFAITHFULPALADIN 1 week ago
I am a Jew and i have Muslim Arab friends
Kobi12131 1 week ago
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Kobi12131 1 week ago
Israel and Zionism r not the issues,
The pro is that muslim hate jews.
if they loved jews and were their best friends-and just fought against israel-
the whole story would have been way different.
BAR203407 2 weeks ago
Christians rejected one prophet but Jews two, christians are more closer to muslim than Jews...
julio14335 2 weeks ago
@julio14335 No we accept the one who's most convincing mohammed is not convincing to me just as the rules of the koran and sharia. (I read both) We are closer to the muslim in religion than a jew. But we are closer to the Jews in general. Muslims hate our Christian buts anyway so why defending them against the Jews when the Jews do know how to tread someone who's a friend of you.
blackjack7gek 1 week ago
Gosh .. PLEASE STOP FIGHTING OVER WHATS WRITTEN IN BOOKS THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD .. they dont hold merit to 21st century ..
DaSnipy 2 weeks ago
LOL The 6 day war is proof of how mentally retarded Muslimms are! they couldn't beat a small amount of JEWs! hahahahahahahah bunch of useless cunts LOL
schickman1994 2 weeks ago
I pick Muslims we all muslims should kill Jews
Sakinasgor 2 weeks ago
GOD BLESS ISRAEL
xoxopetal 2 weeks ago
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xoxopetal 2 weeks ago
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
$50 dollars on the muslims! Christians bet now!
NyxRedvines 2 weeks ago
@NyxRedvines $50 on the christians
blackjack7gek 5 days ago
Do you see what is taking place in this conference?
A woman is asking for Muslim leaders to make more of an effort to curb anti-Jewish sentiment in the Islamic world, and what are the responses?
1. The man replies that Israeli civilians are not innocent and are legitimate targets.
2. The woman replies that everyone hates Jews because of how the prophets are described in A MILLENIA OLD RELIGIOUS TEXT!!!
Good luck Europe...
Shimonisback 2 weeks ago 2
hate muslims
OriginalOnly 2 weeks ago
jews worship the devil
Izak0world 3 weeks ago
@Izak0world Everyone knows it.
01923053891 3 weeks ago
Outlaw all religion and there will be no cause for argument. Simple. Causes nothing but death, war and suffering anyway.
sublimerule 3 weeks ago
@sublimerule I agree with you 100%. Religions are poison for the brain.
Shimonisback 3 weeks ago
THAT DUMB QATAR WOMAN NEEDS TO WRAP A NIQAB TIGHTLY AROUND HER FACE AND SILENCE HERSELF, AS SHE IS A COMPLETE FOOL. SHE CLAIMS THAT ZIONISM IS NOT RELIGIOUS, THAT SHE HAS READ THE TANAKH, AND ABOUT OUR ACTIONS. IF THIS WERE TRUE, THAN SHE WOULD KNOW THAT THE TORAH TALKS ABOUT WHEN HE WOULD RETURN US FROM THE LANDS OF OUR DISPERSION, AND GO BEFORE US IN BATTLE, AND SO DO THE PROPHETS SAY THIS! THE IGNORANCE IN THE ISLAMIC WORLD IS QUITE SAD, PALESTINIANS ARE A MADE UP PEOPLE, AS OF 1967!
Menechem 3 weeks ago
@Menechem zionism is not jewism, but some jews have a zionist false view. zion is the new heavens jerusalem, has nothing to do in the political place. return from dispersion, well you need to learn a little more my son. the dispersion in sin is the true meaning and hashem saves yes, he saves sinners and brings them to heaven! while i am not protescting arabs islam against jews, because its wrong and useing bible is also wrong in that political matter!
Ahridium777 3 weeks ago
zionism has nothing todo with the holy zion and zionist are inact matrials and against the clean zion!
Ahridium777 3 weeks ago
@Ahridium777 You telling me that I need to learn more, when you've made an absolute fool out of yourself is really, quite sad. Read all I said, and go and learn in silence!
Menechem 3 weeks ago
@Menechem you do fool of yourself, not me. you know well were honey and milk flooded right?you know that the paradise was in today persian gulf were ar aden is in irak? you know were eurphrat and tigris is right? strange but in kanaan there is no milk and honey and how do god fight only for one people against the whole rest of the world? does not all people belong to god and all lands?who do you fool?do you understand that god wants peace and not war?are you saying the lord yah is
Ahridium777 3 weeks ago
@Menechem makeing war for you against others? but so do allah? or not? now do allah fight with yahveh and yahveh fight with allah? or what yu want say? do u still not understand that the lord yah wants love and not war?porr soul wake up b4 is tolate.
Ahridium777 3 weeks ago
@Ahridium777 I'm not continuing on with a rambling fool such as yourself. You've proven yourself to be an ignorant, uneducated fool.
Menechem 3 weeks ago
@Menechem not me, not me, ass, you the fool, pssst!
Ahridium777 3 weeks ago
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@Menechem Uneducated?Oh waw i see how educated you are, pffffffffffffttt
Ahridium777 3 weeks ago
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Ahridium777 3 weeks ago
@Ahridium777 shall i quote our liturgy, that is over 2,000 years old to you? In it there are prayeres for rain for our land, blessing for our land, and to be returned to our land. Furthermore, HaShem has promised to return us to our land, and go before us in battle, and this is what He is doing now! I do need any education from you, I was Orthodox before I came to Christ, I am now a seminary student, and a believer in God's word! YOU ARE WRONG NOT ME! I GO BY WHAT SCRIPTURE STATES! KEEP QUIET!
Menechem 3 weeks ago
That Schmuck who was speaking for most of the time, after the eloquent Jew, claims that the Jews and the Nazi's were in cahoots, does he not realize that as Hitler was reeking havoc on my people in the Ashkenzai world, he also formed a strong friendship with the grand mufti of Jerusalem? What a fool! A JEW, IS A JEW, WHO IS A JEW. WE ARE ONE PEOPLE, NOTHING DIFFERS BETWEEN A ZINONIST JEW, AND ISRAELI JEW, AND A JEW IN NEW YORK, WE HAVE THE SAME DNA!
Menechem 3 weeks ago
@Menechem ohh it differs alot my friend, and you know that, a real jew knows well that israel is not a land but the holy people of god!
Ahridium777 3 weeks ago
@Ahridium777 A real Jew knows that Israel was also knows that in our history there was a Northern Kingdom (Israel), and the Southern Kingdom (Judah), which the Bible talks about, and history backs up (the divided kingdom was prior to the Babylonian exile). You really need to do some study, before you tell others they need to learn a bit more.If HaShem did not want us back in the land than he would not have defied military logistics and aloud us to win the Yom Kippur War,when we were outnumbered!
Menechem 3 weeks ago
JEWS ARE ZIONISTS, IT'S IN OUR DNA! IT'S OUR LAND, OUR INHERITANCE IS THE LAND OF "PALESTINE", GAZA, THE WEST BANK, AND SO FORTH. HASHEM PROMISED TO RETURN USTO OUR LAND, AND GO BEFORE US IN BATTLE IN THE LAST DAYS, HE IS DOING THIS NOW. YOU MUSLIMS, CAN HATE US ALL YOU WANT, BUT IT WILL BE YOU WHO WILL HAVE TO REPENT! BTW, THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW, AND ACCORDING TO THE PROPHET ZECHARIAH THOSE WHO ROSE UP AGAINST US WILL BE FORCED TO WORSHIP ON SUCOT IN JERUSALEM, OR FACE THE WRATH OF GOD!
Menechem 3 weeks ago
you are completly wrong, while all jews should be spiritually zionist, not all jews are, while almost all zionist jews are false zionist metrial and doing a false war and theyr teaching is based on a lie!
Ahridium777 3 weeks ago
@Ahridium777 YOU'RE THE ONE WHO IS WRONG, ALL THROUGHOUT SCRIPTURE, STARTING IN DEUTERONOMY, GOD PROMISED US THAT HE WOULD RETURN US TO OUR LAND IN THE LAST DAYS AND GO BEFORE US IN BATTLE. THIS IS WHAT HE IS DOING NOW! I AM NOT THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO LEARN MORE, YOU ARE! AS A JEW, AND A BORN AGAIN, BIBLE BELIEVING ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN, I WILL TRUST GOD BEFORE MEN, ESPECIALLY FOOLS LIKE YOU!
Menechem 3 weeks ago
@Menechem i am a ortho christian, you should know what new zion is, you should know what new jerusalem is as a orthodox christian you should know what god promisses as land, you should know that.
Ahridium777 3 weeks ago
@Ahridium777 If I was completely wrong (which I am not), than why is it that those who are not religious, still want to live in the land of the Bible, the land of our ancestors? Just because they may not be Orthodox (as I was), HaShem is still moving, and bringing His word to pass, because HE IS ALWAYS FAITHFUL, thus you have no argument! Israel may not be entirely perfect as it is lead by men, but it is still proof of God's faithfulness!
Menechem 3 weeks ago
@Menechem seems that you dont know who the enw israel is and seems you are not aware of the holy zion. i am not saying that jews have no right to live in israel and i am also not saying that palestianians have or haven't right to stay. i do simply refer to you comment about the eartly missinterpretation of the bible you have about zion and the promissed kingdom of god witch is the same.
Ahridium777 3 weeks ago
how is this video labeled as a clash between Muslims and Jews? All I see is Muslims ranting worse than Kanye West...
Shimonisback 3 weeks ago
@Shimonisback lol cuz if you were careful to notice, its clearly cut and edited.
ibrahimkhan27 3 weeks ago
@ibrahimkhan27 That's not the point.
The point is that you have a Jewish woman who is merely stating that Muslim leaders should do more to curb anti-Jewish sentiment in the 21st century, and you have that irrational, delusional Muslim woman responding with anecdotes from millenia old religious texts.
You demand that we respect Islam and your prophet, yet you refuse to show anyone else the same respect. This is hypocrisy.
Shimonisback 2 weeks ago
The Qatari regime unfortunately always opens its arms to zionists allowing them to express themselves & reflect their hate towards Islam.
Emir Hamad is a Zionist puppet.
amaso1972 3 weeks ago
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quit religion and free your soul!...don't be a sheep we are on this earth once...eat pork its nice bacon sandwich with brown hp sauce yummmmm
dan832 1 month ago
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dan832 1 month ago
This what will happen at the very end before the world ends for Judgment day.
1) thousands of Jews, antichrist, non-beilever etc will follow the Dijual
2) Jesus ( prophet ISA) will fight the Dijual and defeat him
3) Jesus ( prophet ISA) will tell all of us Muslim people of Islam to fight whats left which includes the rest in Statement no.2
4) All the people/Things that followed Dijual will burn in Hell for all eternity
YOUNGDON72 1 month ago
"Germany helps jews now just like in 1878!" - funny how he skipped a certain period in between =)
clerlic 1 month ago
muslims are indoctrinated at an early age to hate jews. it even says it in the koran.
peachrocker1 1 month ago
@peachrocker1 Really? And could you quote it for me please?? Because as a Muslim, I'm very sure you're lying and you haven't even read the Qur'an lol
AllAbtPeaceAndLove72 3 weeks ago
@AllAbtPeaceAndLove72 Sura5, vs. 33 & sura9 vs.5. You might want to try reading it yourself, of course it is COMPLETLY full of contradictions. It is also a book of lies. Your prophet even admits that your "god" allah. is the greatest of decievers. If YOU'VE really read it then you knoe exactly where this phrase is written.
THEFAITHFULPALADIN 1 week ago
@THEFAITHFULPALADIN everything u said is a bunch of shit.. i dare you to challenge me.
a717575 1 week ago
@a717575 As I proved above,....you are no challenge.Your god says lie for me,kill for me,die for me..that you can gain your virgins & get into heaven.My GOD says "I love you so much that I will come to earth,live like you suffer for you & die for you that you may join me in heaven.You're in my prayers that you will come to the saving grace of YESHUA(he who said "I & my father am one, that which is my fathers is mine & no man can come to the father lest it be thru me.")He's the living son of GOD.
THEFAITHFULPALADIN 4 days ago
She talks about an orthodox family, SUPER RELIGIOUS jews,
Everyone whose SUPER religious is a brainless zombie.
I bet that in every (religious)Arabic school in the middle east, EVERY student hears the same about Jews, this will never end, as long as religion exists.
I hope that the younger generation will be wiser...
I'm am Israeli, i DO NOT HATE Arabs, peace. :) Happy new year :)
Romalainen 1 month ago 3
@Romalainen I'm a Muslim, there will never be peace until BOTH Muslims and Jews accept peace. The zionist government is pure evil but so are Arab/Muslim leaders. No one is doing anything for real peace. Israel conquered the Palestinians land but what shall be done now, kick them out?! That's ridiculous... Stop hatemongering on both sides, accept a 2 state. Both unite against extreme right zionism and the bloody terrorists (Hamas, Fath and Hizbollah). Salam/Shalom
MetallicThor 1 week ago
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mocroroosje18 6 days ago
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@MetallicThor Ps. As a muslim you should know what God's decision is on Palestine.
mocroroosje18 6 days ago
fuck all religions , and people who believe in god , you are brainless zombies!!!
robakles1 1 month ago
As neither a jew nor muslim, i would have to say muslims are much nicer and honest in my experiences in school and work. jews disrespects people that aren;t jews, think their too good for anyone. strange out of all the muslims i've talked to, none of them act like terrorists portrayed by the media.
RiotOfficer1990 1 month ago 43
@RiotOfficer1990 i agree
T3chHub101 1 month ago 17
@T3chHub101 i disagree
schickman1994 2 weeks ago
@schickman1994 no one asked u ?????? so please quiet
T3chHub101 2 weeks ago
@T3chHub101 Why because he disagreed with yer opinion? Are ye a muslim?
blackjack7gek 5 days ago
@RiotOfficer1990 they will one day kill you if u dont convert lol jews keep to themselves if thats a prob be with the people that will stone you
dutch881 1 month ago
@RiotOfficer1990 RESERCH THE JEWISH TERRORISTES U WILL SEE HOWMANY TIMES THEY TRID TO BLAME THE MUSLIMS BUT IT WAS THEM JEWS AND THEY GOT COUGHT EAVEN SHOWING AND PROVING THE REST OF THE WORLD THAT 3000 JEWS DID NOT COME TO WORK ON 9\11 ITS 100% PROVE THEY DID IT
TheWhyareyouracist 3 weeks ago
@RiotOfficer1990 That's because their "religion" explicitely commands them to sweet talk to promote their beliefs.
sooperfukker 3 weeks ago
@RiotOfficer1990 I don't agree the nice behaviour of a muslim is not real. A jew won't rape a girl because she's not jewish.A jew won't beat someone up or curse at someone if that person is not jewish.A muslim does! A muslim doesn't know the word respect or the line I must behave in someone else his country.I never heard that a jewish gang attacking people in a group or rape a underage girl just because their not jewish.I will ask ye this: have ye read the law of sharia?
blackjack7gek 1 week ago 2
@blackjack7gek a muslim does none of what u mentioned fool. jews have been hatted over all parts of the word over history.. there is a reason for that.. it because u guys are assholes.
a717575 1 week ago
@a717575 Muslims do what I mentioned especially in holland fool. I don't say jews are the perfect race, but better than muslims. I'm not a jew I'm a Catholic and proud (not a big fan of the vatican) you should noticed that when you read my previous message. Muslims have fights also all over the world like: Europe, Asia, Southern America etc. (because their assholes)
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mocroroosje18 1 week ago
@blackjack7gek You mean the genocide on muslims? Not nice for you to accuse the millions of dead muslims including children for being terrorist as you're words imply.
mocroroosje18 1 week ago
@mocroroosje18 Ridiculous, those people are the true martyrs, not those terrorist hizbollah and Hamas. Don't you see how they are making things worse and giving Israel excuses to kill more Palestinians? Zionism doesn't favour peace but neither do Arabs in general. Stop being one-sided.
MetallicThor 1 week ago
@MetallicThor The true martyrs really? I' m not buying it sorry. Stealing land, killing it's people and lie about history is the most demonic thing you can do. We'll see when the last battle starts.. Can't wait till the muslim army kicks those fake jews out and muslims can finally live at peace and be left alone.
mocroroosje18 6 days ago
@mocroroosje18 You didn't understand, Palestinians are the true martyrs is what I meant. Doesn't excuse the actions of those terrorist/murderers Hizbollah. They are led by political agendas (they support Bashar btw.. look it up). No Muslim army would ever kick the Jews out of Palestine, Allah will never support such atrocious acts of slaughter. There is no Mahdi, no second coming of Jesus ya habibi, just Allah and faithful Muslim worshippers who DON'T slaughter ppl.
MetallicThor 6 days ago
@MetallicThor Hisbullah and Hamas are still muslim and I favor them without any doubt above any Israeli. Israeli's live there as occupiers; now if they want to live there they can come back after the Israeli state is brought to fall with will happen sooner or later (probably trough a coup). No where did I mention slaughter; don't twist words.
mocroroosje18 6 days ago
@MetallicThor Denying what will happen in the end of times according to the quran and sunna (the return of Isa as and the mahdi) is kufr, so watch your mouth. Ps. Keep your ''habibi'' with you by the way.
mocroroosje18 6 days ago
@mocroroosje18 It's kufr? Yalaka min kathib! Tell me exactly where God commands us to expect the coming Mahdi in the Quran, I challenge you!
Further on, tell me the point of the Mahdi's coming and Issa. Why does Allah send them to us to slaughter all Jews and Christians and establish the 'universal' caliphate? Oh, I forgot that Jesus will also slaughter the pigs, I hope no one ends up eating them, it's haram you know?
MetallicThor 6 days ago
@MetallicThor First one question to you. Do you reject the sunnah which is mentioned in ahadith?
mocroroosje18 6 days ago
@mocroroosje18 Of course, Allah never ordered us to follow Hadith. He says we must follow Quran!
MetallicThor 6 days ago
@MetallicThor So why didn't he sent the quran alone from the sky?
mocroroosje18 6 days ago
@mocroroosje18 He did...
MetallicThor 6 days ago
@MetallicThor Lol are you saying that prophet Mohammed pbuh never existed?
mocroroosje18 6 days ago
@mocroroosje18 No, he did exist and he provided us with Quran as a messenger is expected to do. The Quran mentions it, this should be proof enough.
MetallicThor 6 days ago
@MetallicThor The prophet is mentioned in the quran as our example who we have to follow, but it does not go into detail about the prophets sayings and doings. The hadiths do. Do you have prove that Bukhari and alike were liars?
mocroroosje18 6 days ago
@mocroroosje18 Do YOU have proof that he didn't lie? I will wait for your response because I can prove it :)
MetallicThor 6 days ago
@MetallicThor My prove is logic. God is not going to tolerate another conspiracy (after the bible was corrupted etc.) after he said this: 5.3 ''This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion.'' According to you God couldn't make up his promise istagfirullah.
mocroroosje18 6 days ago