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  • The Nazis and Soviets were enemies of free and independent Ukraine, Stalin and Soviet regime mass murdered milliions of innocent Ukrainians instigated genocide Holodomor on Ukrainian nation in worst criminal act of genocide 20 century - jew killers were rounded up yet the Soviet and Nazis criminals and murderers miostly went unpunished in one of biggest cover up of 20 century

  • Stalin actually killed 10 - 20 million Innocent Ukrainians before the war including Holodomor - many thousands Ukrainians and preists were killed for not coverting to soviet sponsored Russian Partriarchy church - Stalin's perfomance was never "not bad" - how absurd - he was mass murderer a disgusting criminal and enemy no1 of Ukraine - only a commie could defend this sick despot

  • I am well aware of what Stalin did. History is very subjective by nature so I see no point in arguing. I find it curious though that you would bring Stalin into this discussion at all. You can say whatever you want man, but the only evil in this whole topic will always be Hitler and Nazis and blaming them for the worst tragedy in human history.

  • well I have to disagree - from Ukraine point of view both Soviet and Nazis are enemies of Free and Indepenedent Ukraine - While Hitler was at war Stalin mass murdered up to twenty million innocent Ukrainians during peacetime in 1930 - 1933 in unprecedented and largely hegemonious act of mass murder of unarmed civilian Ukrainians for not towing the commie doctrine resttling them with Russian immigrants - Stalin beats Hitler by a longshot - on genocide Hitler was Stalin's pupil - its true!

  • 1930-1933 Hitler was still struggling to gain power. What happened in Ukraine was horrible, no doubt.

    I am not going to tell you not to hate Stalin, in fact here is one more reason for you which is relevant to Sevastopol. He refused to evacuate land forces from Sevastopol with exception of command officers and soldiers were left to fight alone without supplies during last days of the siege until death or capture. But no captivity for marines, Nazis were killing them all.

  • It is not a matter of hatred but more of perspective - under proper and fair analysis Stalin tops the list of mass murderers - under Stalin's leadership the Red Soldier was an expendible item ie cannon fodder

  • The soviet forces were hoplessly outclassed from the beggining - of the three options - surrender to the Nazis, retreat or fight to the death - the latter a stupid Soviet WW2 trait mainly due to the unrelenting homicidal nature of the criminally insane Stalin

  • dude, you can call it whatever you want... I would call it a feat and these people heroes. Their attitude was what really won that horrible war. If you cared to know more about WWII and Stalin in particular you would not post such nonsense.

  • Stalin's victory of the Eastern Front was attributed to Soviet Policy of expendibility of Red Soldier and of their own people...The Mass Murder Stalin used his armies as cannon fodder to secure his and the survival of communism in Russia. It represents a tital lack of mental hygeine and criminal insanity that was Stalin.The USSR was not stronger than Nazis but more immoral - this is not nonsense

  • you have missed my point. which was that soviet soldiers had to pay with their lives for mistakes of their command and throughout war everything was conquered at enormous cost of more than 20 000 000 human lives in USSR. Every second person who died in WWII was from USSR. I am just asking you to pay a little respect. Please take your time to research the subject, not just what media had to say, not everything is black and white. Actually Stalin performed not that bad especially during 1941.

  • Enough said, that during the only Sevastopol battle, german army lost more people and tanks than for the whole previous battles in Europe taken together.

  • "invaded Poland" LOL

    Western Ukraine, retaken by Soviet Union, was occupied by Poland

  • I never said it was a seperate conflict, simply that the USSR regarded them as seperate conflicts

  • Learn history, the Russian state and people regard them as two seperate conflicts, the Great Patriotic war, as they call it, started in 1941.

  • For Soviet Union it started in 1941

  • What about the Manchurian border clashes with the Japenese in 1936?

  • what a fuck u always talking about ideology or regime??? these people has fought not for stalin or another stupid idea, they fought for the MOTHERLAND

  • Uh ty... takoy simpatiyi "katzapsko-kommunistichekoy ideologiyi" ya ot nashih slavyanobesov ne ozhidal.

    Bravo.

  • Slavyanobesy - eto vi tak nas nazivayete?

  • I'm from Ukraine born semtember 1991. My grandpa and relitives were in this war *WW2* my parents told me about its scary as hell image bombs dropping every were and millions of people dieying. It's one of the scary's moments of any one's life

  • This was a kick ass clip. Too bad it didnt come with a translation, I would have liked to hear the Russian side of their history. Great job!

  • its in ukrainian

  • Even better, my best bud in the Army was born in the Ukraine and he taught me a lot about their history and beautiful culture. Where can I get a translation of this clip?

  • I don't think you can. This was part of a series of historical short clips, made for the occasion of Ukraine's 15th Independence anniversary. I have about 10 of them saved on my computer. But they're all in ukrainian, I don't have any in english or russian.

  • tal di dalle sdesi!

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