This guy gets more retarded all the time. He gives homage to a terrorist for killing himself and thousands of others. I believe in heaven, but not gonna take out any buildings to prove it. Life is precious either way so grow up and spend your talent on something productive. All you have to do is look at some of the evil on here and you know there is a devil. If there is a devil then there is the God that created him.
This is about the same logic as all other archaic religions use; "There's lightning, the god of thunder - thor - must be the one creating it!". The fact that something exists is in no way, shape, or form proof that something created it, to think that is about the most ignorant thing I've heard. Science requires proof, your nick is an oxymoron
@Ignortheinvincible I was having fun with logic like the guy that created the end of the video about the plane crashing "they believed". Terrible logic so I played along.
@ScientificChristian1 Furthermore, your statement that "since there is a devil, god must have created him" inevitably means one of two things:
1. God willingly created the devil and as such also Evil, in which case he's a douchebag and not loving or good.
2. God had nothing to say and couldn't change the situation when Lucifer fell from grace to become satan/the devil, in which case your god is NOT omnipotent.
@Ignortheinvincible God allows freewill. Each and every person has the choice to live a life modeled after Jesus or one modeled after their own selfish desires. Freewill is a bitch, especially in a society that believes in rights but not responsibilities.
@ScientificChristian1 So what about someone born in a little village in Nepal, someone who has never heard of the concept of your god, or anything about him. This person dies at the age of 20 having never even been told of your god? Is he doomed to hell?
@GodHatesCanada I really do not know. I believe that each person will have to answer for themselves. In that case if the person worships God, but has never heard of Jesus I think they go to heaven. If they worship idols then probably not. I am not God and I do not want his job. God is just and will be as fair as he can be. Too many people view God as a lawyer looking for a loophole to kick you out of his house. I think that he is looking for a way to get you in. To send his son to die was love.
@ScientificChristian1 But how do you define idols? There could be many ways to interpret an idol. What of those who worship non Abrahamic gods, such as Hindus and the countless tribal religions of South America and Africa? But I think the biggest question is, what is there is a non christian, who has "rejected" your god, but this is a good person, they help people, they are selfless, kind, and loving. They dedicate their lives to helping others, is this person doomed to hell?
@GodHatesCanada since none of us are in that boat why worry about it? To be clear No one knows and at least I admit it. An idol is anything that replaces God as the most important thing in your life. It could be money, statues of animals, animals themselves,a girl or boyfriend, tv, videogames, drugs, false gods, anything that is put ahead of worshiping God. Define good, how many times does a murderer have to kill to be labeled a murderer, Rape, lying, cheating, hatred. etc
@GodHatesCanada cont The reason the law was given was to have a model of the expectation and to let us know how far all of us are from living it. Is there anyone that has never felt jealousy, hatred, contempt, lust? In our minds we are ok but the standard is perfection. God wants heaven to be perfect so there is not a chance of another lucifer misleading the masses and corrupting heaven. So great is the sin in Gods eyes that he is going to destroy heaven and create a new one.
@GodHatesCa Be careful that you do not judge how good you are by anyone else. Sin is sin and separates us from God. Whether you are separated by a wall that is 1 foot thick or the grand canyon sin separates us from God. I am a pretty good example. I love God but I sin on a daily basis not on purpose, but habits like swearing, wasting time, holding grudges,etc all separate us from God. What makes Christianity different is that we know we cannot earn my way so we need to accept his plan for grace
@ScientificChristian1 At least I'm not a good person because I' m afraid of being punished by an invisible man in the sky. Instead, I try to be a good person because it is the right thing to do and leads to a much happier experience. Life is short, I;d rather not waste it being afraid.
@ScientificChristian1 "Too many people view God as a lawyer looking for a loophole to kick you out of his house. I think that he is looking for a way to get you in."
God is almighty and all loving, yet he needs to find loopholes to let people go into heaven and not into hell? How silly.
@ScientificChristian1 Quite the benevolent god who dooms such a child to an eternity in hell just for being born in the wrong place; unable to find what you call the "truth". Don't you think?
He sent his son to die for the sins he forced upon us in the first place, again sounds like a lovely guy!
Still waiting for a decent answer to my first post as well, I don't know why you're going on about free will.
@ScientificChristian1 Wait a second. How can there be freewill if God knows everything that will ever happen? Have you even ever thought about the things the Bible says? Its a huge contradiction. The Bible claims God gave us freewill,yet God knows everything that will ever happen. =Thats not freewill.
@Ignortheinvincible Choice 3- God is the shit! these are just the answers that your own thought process brought you to. These thoughts occur because of previous stimuli that your brain interpretted in a certain manner. other people could carry out thought processes just like yours that lead them to believe that God is good, strong, or even REAL! Just because these are the only answers you came up with doesn't mean they are the only answers! GOD BLESS YOU
@fufuy0 Actually, my reply is a rewrite of the famous Epicurus quote (I'll paste it after this).
Your inability to chose one and instead go with "none of them because god is fluffy, yay!" basically just proved my point. Your an individual not capable of analytical thinking, not capable of realizing that they're mutually exclusive and one MUST be true. Whenever you feel like arguing like a reasonable person, i.e., actually try to counter my arguments with substance - let me know. Pathetic.
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
Written by Epicurus some time around 300 BCE, disproving (yes, disproving - there's no alternative) the fact that a god can be both benevolent and omnipotent. Should you ever wake up from your illusion, you might realize the implications of these words.
@Ignortheinvincible You are framing the question in a lose lose proposition with your is God evil or weak. That would be like me asking you are you a bully or a coward. Obviously you can be neither. God is powerful but is bound by his nature, To remain righteous and holy evil must be punished. As a parent you will learn this, when your kids break your rules you need to punish them. Not out of anger but so they understand that actions have consequences.
@Ignortheinvincible When god decided to allow free will that set in motion events where some would choose good some would choose evil. All of us have done something wrong to intentionally hurt someone else. That other person is a child of God. Again as a parent you will want to protect your children and reward those that do good and punish those that harm your other children.
@ScientificChristian1 The Bible is so full of contradictions and inconsistancies its not even funny. Many smart men throughout the centuries have disseted the Bible and all but proven its a load of bullcrap. Just think about it for a second. If God is perfect, and the Bible is the word of God, then why are there so many problems with it?! So many contradictions?! So many inconsistancies?! Face it, the Bible was written by man, no God had anything to do with it because GOD DOES NOT EXIST!
@GoongalaGoongala I agree written by men for men inspired by God. As far as happiness, i am quite happy, I too live a good life, help out neighbors when I can. Tell others about the good news, that life has a purpose, there is a creator he is awesome and wants to have a relationship with us. That is a far more fulfilling experience than, I help my neighbor, but ultimately we are all an accident with no purpose other than to eventually die and become dust again some day.
@GoongalaGoongala Freewill is exactly that. God knows what I am going to do and allows me to make my own choices that is freewill. Freewill has consequences and that is true no matter what you believe. If you are sexually active and do not use protection there is a chance you will contract a disease. Then you will be mad at God and blame him for allowing the disease to happen.
@ScientificChristian1 So many contradictions. Try googling "free will", for the start. Also, you're at no position to say that free will exists. Get a degree in quantum physics, and then you will be. Until then, no one is buying your "'cause jeebus and teh baybel tawed me saew!" bullshit.
@batmanfanforever08 The killing helped send her to heaven. In heaven there is perfect happiness. What kind of father wouldn't want perfect happiness for his daughter?
@studmuffffffin Good point: I'm gonna put myself in the shoes of the Tumorguy tell you how I would react. I would have wanted the moron to end my life not my daughter's, cuz afteral she's the young one. And the young are s'pose to outlive the old. That's ideal situation.
@batmanfanforever08 Right but it doesn't appear you need more than one parent to raise a child, and there is no mention of a mother here. They are showing a single father here.
@batmanfanforever08 Maybe they are already dead in heaven. Are you talking about reality or this hypothetical scenario in the video. I can't tell anymore. There is not mention of a surviving family in this video.
@studmuffffffin Try this on for size, I have two older brothers that'll make perfect father figures for this daughter of mine. Besides, giving her a long healthy life makes it possible for her to leave something that humanity needs!!
@batmanfanforever08 Well that's very lucky for you that you have brothers that are willing to raise someone elses kids. I would not feel so obliged. Making children is a real commitment. Not accidents you cart off for other people to worry about when your first chance at paradise arrives.
@batmanfanforever08 If heaven is happier than earth, then denying that to your daughter is denying her of perfect happiness and giving her unhappiness.
@TekLok all hale fantasyland all hale fantasyland, I've seen the light & it says that teklok should get a life. And of heaven is real, I've been there.
@batmanfanforever08 Exactly yeah, you are talking about something completely off topic. This discussion is about the religious views of heaven being an actual place you somehow teleport to upon death. This video isn't about heaven as someone being in harmony with reality.
So are you essentially saying that if someone really believes in heaven they would kill themselves? If you only look at a single aspect of it I think I see how you could say that, but you miss the whole broader picture.
@BenjaminWirtz No, he's not saying they should kill themselves. He's saying if you REALLY believed in Heaven, than you wouldn't mourn for someone (because they are in a "better" place) and you wouldn't fear death AT ALL (because you'd go to a "better" place). Like the video pointed out, the 9/11 terrorists really did believe in Heaven. After all, they killed themselves, thinking it truly wasn't the end. So YOU are missing the broader picture.
Wow, this was such a poignant video. You really got the point across in a short but powerful way! I hope as many religious people as possible are watching these videos and seeing the sense in them. Thank you:)
@Llywellyn94 sure, they have their little facades, but put them to the test: give em terminal cancer, put them in a slim-survival situation, and they'll flip just like anyone else would. You really have to be insane to COMPLETELY believe it all.
Every year thousands of people are martyred for their faiths around the world, I'd say refusing to renouce your faith with a gun to your head is evidence of real belife.Every few weeks (tragiclly) a monk in tibet self immolates in protest, based on their faith. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. set out on his mission knowing that he would probably be killed (and he came close often), based on his faith. To deny that these people believe/d is ignorance pure and simple.
@Llywellyn94 Not my point. The fact remains, no one wants to die. Why is it seen as such a tragedy all the time, why do people go so ridiculously far out of their way to avoid death, when the afterlife is supposedly so much better? We can't stop ourselves from fearing it, that's why. Those monks and MLK were undoubtedly scared of death... What sets them apart from the rest is that they were also brave and resolute. We fear the great unknown, because it is simply that: unknown.
@user1maximus actually there exist buddhist monks who can kill themself through complete body control, they can stop their heartbeat and so step into the darkness of death to be reborn in the light of life. (according to themselves) They are not afraid of dying because they believe they will be reborn
@Llywellyn94 Do you then also admire the hijackers who flew planes into buildings on 9/11? They believed. Or the suicide bombers killing missionaries, teachers, doctors and children? They believed.
Absolute belief in an afterlife is not always a good thing.
@Llywellyn94 the problem with that is this: thousands is a drop in the ocean of a billion people who supposidly are members of the Catholic Church ALONE. If you were to take the total number of people who follow a religion that believes in the afterlife and compare THAT with the number of people who truly believe in heaven.... the ratio is not favourable, and therefore the number of people who ACTUALLY believe is VERY VERY small indeed.
no you are the ones with the wild claim , it is up to you to prove it. If I say to you 'I can fly' you would not waste years trying to prove I cant you would just say 'prove it'. Well you lot are the one saying every thing was made by a giant sky fairy , so the burden of proof is on you , prove it , you have had 200 + years to do it so far and have failed and every day science shows more and more that needs no god.
Religion/faith is not a claim, neither is lack there of.
When someone says say "I believe in God" they have not made a claim, they have stated fact, and when an atheist says "I do not believe in God" the same is true.
It is when those arrogant/ignorant enough to think that they have the objective answer say "I know that..." or "God does/doesn't exist" that a claim is made. You made a claim and I would like you to prove it
They is no proof for god at all , none , zip , nothing the holy joe' s can not show a single thing that shows that they sky fairy is anything more than a delusion.
True, but you made the positive assertion that God does not exist, and I would like you to prove it. You don't want to be the kind of person who claims things with no evidence do you?
@Llywellyn94 The 23 chromosome in humans came directly from apes, the only way we could have these same genes is because we inherited them. Its new information and conclusively proves we came from apes. Sorry that you're uneducated and were unaware of this fact.
@huffdawgs8. Hahaha.. yes because there is no difference bettween metaphore and nonesense! Everyone knows that childrens stories are just a bunch of ignorant lies, I mean, how can anyone think that the meaning of a story is important if the story isn't true?
@Llywellyn94 That's not hard to do.. If there is no evidence that something it exists, it is considered nonexistent until evidence of its existence surfaces.
@Llywellyn94 It's not about what you think, it's about the scientific method. Through characterization, hypothesis, predictions, and experimentation does something go from an idea to become accepted as true.
I hope you don't think pink unicorns are real too without evidence, because I sure wouldn't just believe it if someone told me those were real.
It's like saying people don't care if God is NOT their saviour yet punishment would prevail for those sinners because they're too blind to perceive the existence of God's nature since the emergence of molecular patterns spanning over several billions of years.
How is it REALLY possible to rationalize that "what if Heaven existed"? If a person died from a freak accident one day and if he/she is ascended to an alternate dimension where they'd never come back to reality, God would evantually rule out if a substantial amount of sins has been commited by that particular person. And even if they DID commit a very FEW sins here and there - there is NO hope of actually being saved by some mysterious pattern from the further regions of an alternate universe.
@Aeg42396 I'm not saying the little boy didn't have a dream that he interpreted as a visit to Heaven, but why would he go there for any length of time if he was never dead? Jeremiah 23:16.
Well, if someone buys the idea of heaven from someone ells, indeed they be in joy to learn that they are about to die, and go to heaven because they fit to the application form presented to them by other people who seem to somehow not rush to love their own death.
Humans always believe they deserve more...Especially after they kill someone in the name of something.
@lahoucine66 The point of the video is blatantly obvious. And if you think nonsense is incapable of making a point, you are completely missing what life is all about my friend.
The biggest evidence to me personally that God is real is the fact that the Catholic Church changed Sabbath Day from Saturday to Sunday. No matter how you spin this, there is no reason for the Catholic church to make people worship on Sunday instead of the original Saturday unless they hate God.
@realoverfake Excuse me but i think it is rather trivial dispute this is. I don't think God really cares what day you worship him. He wants you to give praise to him all days. Just leave them alone please . I have great respect for that group and amire them this is a very petty issue. thank you and have a great day.
@realoverfake what im saying is I think god wants yu to keep himin your heart every day... not just think of him one day of the week and forget about him. God said to put him first.
@realoverfake as i said this is rather trivial arguement to bicker over in the grand plan of God, just chill out my friend and let them be and be at peace with your brethern... not to cause strife... th bible speaks numerously about being at peace with each other and not in strife
@realoverfake first of all i don't agree with you, that is not an evil religion. i don't think catholics are clueless... i think that is an over generalization and 3 I think every single judeo christian has a different interpreation of scripture. are they evil? no... they have a different view and interpretaiton. 4 do you really wan to to debate this rationally or just want to argue? if it's latter i have no time for this. This a good religion and am familiar w
@casablanca4381 You're completely ignoring the fact the Catholic Church changed the Sabbath Day to Sunday. Go to remnantofgod (dot) org (slash) beastword (dot) htm.
@casablanca4381 Even todays bible mentions God would save Jesus if they tried anything and He did. The resurrection is a pagan idea from Egyptian Mythology the Vatican brought to Chris
@realoverfake what you say is not entirely true. the catholic church encouraged the replacement of pagan religions with the judeo chritian one. the pagan took the ideas and tried to apply them to their own religion. you need to leave me alone . I will not change my mind i have blocked you,now kindly leave
@casablanca4381 Lol you sound scared. Please tell me what part of Christmas is Judeo Christians and not Pagan. It's not the lit up trees, that's clearly pagan. The gifts?
@casablanca4381 Nope thats what the pagans were doing before Christ. Their sun god was born on December 25th. Jesus was born in September. Is it the egg nog? NOPE
@casablanca4381 Do you know why Romans crucified people? To them, it was a way of cursing people. They wanted to prove Jesus was not the Messiah so they tried to curse him.
@casablanca4381 But it didn't work. God save him so instead of killing him physically, they killed him mentally in the minds of people everywhere. Dont deny the Truth
@realoverfake ok so answer me this were there two angels at his grave or one? because I read the different books and it can't be both. Was he born during Herod's reign or ten years after? it can't be both but some how there it is... both are in there...Was Eve made from adam's rib or from the dirt? that one is in the same book not too far from each other actually
@casablanca4381 Catholics are clueless because if they had any clue what the Vatican does and did (Nazi Influence) - they would not be Catholics! It's that plain and simple.
@realoverfake christ died on good friday nd resurrected on sunday. the catholic church acknowledges this and celebrate it as do protestant(who by the way some have kep t their practice
@casablanca4381 This is not a "quarrel". If i proved to you drinking soda is bad which it is, wouldn't you stop drinking soda? Well I am showing the Vatican is evil, don't you want to
@realoverfake like celebrating on sunday being among them. God doesn't like a quarrelling so i'm not going to give the satisfaction of engaging me in a quarrel. Have a good day:)
@casablanca4381 leave it? For the sake of your soul? I'm only trying to help you. I told you the youngest bible ever found proves the resurrection never happened.
@realoverfake i think your statemtnt that they hate god is very over generalized. I don't think so. what i ahve observed they have a real respect and love for god. I have a ;lot of catholic friends and genuinely love god and serve others. Please you probably don't like it when people rag on what religion you are or lack of one whatever it may be. why do it to them. my advice we need to learn to be respectful of each other and kind and loving , not tear each other down.
@casablanca4381 People can rag on my religion all they want. I know everything about it. Islam is the truth and the Word of God. But all catholics have been deceived and the Catholic Church is Pagan. Just look up their true history. It started with Constantine. The oldest bible ever found never claimed Jesus to be divine and didn't mention the resurrection. The Catholic Church brought earlier pagan ideas and placed them on Christianity which is falsehood against Gods Word.
@casablanca4381 Mystery Babylon the Great = The Catholic Church. Many of the earlier Christian groups often referred to the Catholic Church as the Anti-Christ.
I have been researching The Afterlife, and from what I know, Christians (as well as other religous folk) are wrong both ways.
If the Afterlife does not exist, no Heaven.
If the Afterlife does exist, theists go to a reality generated by thier bullshit beliefs (Focus 24-26) where they are stuck until they realize religon is bullshit. Once they do, they move on to The Afterlife (Focus 27).
So, ironicly, the Afterlife is for atheists/agnostics. XD
@andollio1337 The video is a good argument against certain religions, not against religion itself. You're the one who's being a retard here, not religion.
@Colafreakz Of course there is always an exception, but from my point of view the majority of the religions are similar to this. Thats why I say its retarded. Im not going to sit here naming all the religions i can think of that can relate to this video lol.
@imjustpassinthru ... If atheism serves any useful purpose it should be to make people more honest with themselves, not to promote delusional thinking.
No, it's YOU living in ignorance. Even with rational things pointed out to you you still scream. Sadly your ignorance is also harmfull to all others and we end up suffering for it. There's a reason I grew out of religion, I got wiser.
@EssenceOfThought and yet you still don't listen. you seem to think i am some evangelical christian trying to show you the faith. I was saying religion is ignorance. Why do you think I was calling you ignorant. read the context!!! And who is screaming? you seem to be the one getting mad and butt hurt.
First of all, you set yourself up with your original comment on the video, I may have may have misinterpreted your reply, but does not excuse your first surely? what logic is that based on? And yes, you clearly are the one screaming. I merely highlight a word for your better reading, many Christians incapable of reading their own bible. Compared to your rage marks. :p
@EssenceOfThought what rage remarks? do you think any christian is happy to die? I was raised in the faith Ill give you that so I know with a deep understanding how they feel. Yes christians do believe they are going to heaven. None are glad to die. They are obsessed with this world. It is to a basic belief to live as long as possible on earth. But many are sure there is a heaven. If you believe it is stupid or not is another story.
@EssenceOfThought and you are right about christians not reading their bible enough. usually you find people who actually are more bible knowledgable are usually less religious. I can just kill almost any christian in a biblical debate. even pastors.
I do not believe many are happy to die, which is the irony that this video is attempting to point out. If there was the promise of eternal bliss, why would they want to hold on?
@EssenceOfThought Friends, family, loved ones, the next football season, should I continue? They dont long too much for the death but really do lose alot of the fear of it. By the way i looked back. All because i said you atheists means I am christian? is that what u meant?
No, the fact that you had to use an insult as an opening "another stupid atheist video" If you wish to be treated with respect it may have been better to open with "Personally, I disagree with this" In which case you would of set the bar as civil, rather than just insult match.
Kony 2012
Thefullmetalnaruto 4 hours ago
@Thefullmetalnaruto NO. GO AWAY.
yannbane 36 minutes ago
AVideo on Youtube more or less about 9/11 WITHOUT any conspiration theory? Thats a miracle!
PlaceboForte94 4 days ago
This guy gets more retarded all the time. He gives homage to a terrorist for killing himself and thousands of others. I believe in heaven, but not gonna take out any buildings to prove it. Life is precious either way so grow up and spend your talent on something productive. All you have to do is look at some of the evil on here and you know there is a devil. If there is a devil then there is the God that created him.
ScientificChristian1 4 days ago
@ScientificChristian1 So let me get this straight...
1. There is "evil"
2. There must be a devil
3. God must have created the devil
This is about the same logic as all other archaic religions use; "There's lightning, the god of thunder - thor - must be the one creating it!". The fact that something exists is in no way, shape, or form proof that something created it, to think that is about the most ignorant thing I've heard. Science requires proof, your nick is an oxymoron
Ignortheinvincible 3 days ago
@Ignortheinvincible I was having fun with logic like the guy that created the end of the video about the plane crashing "they believed". Terrible logic so I played along.
ScientificChristian1 3 days ago
@ScientificChristian1 Furthermore, your statement that "since there is a devil, god must have created him" inevitably means one of two things:
1. God willingly created the devil and as such also Evil, in which case he's a douchebag and not loving or good.
2. God had nothing to say and couldn't change the situation when Lucifer fell from grace to become satan/the devil, in which case your god is NOT omnipotent.
So, which is it? Is god Evil or Weak?
Ignortheinvincible 3 days ago
@Ignortheinvincible God allows freewill. Each and every person has the choice to live a life modeled after Jesus or one modeled after their own selfish desires. Freewill is a bitch, especially in a society that believes in rights but not responsibilities.
ScientificChristian1 3 days ago
@ScientificChristian1 So what about someone born in a little village in Nepal, someone who has never heard of the concept of your god, or anything about him. This person dies at the age of 20 having never even been told of your god? Is he doomed to hell?
GodHatesCanada 1 day ago
@GodHatesCanada I really do not know. I believe that each person will have to answer for themselves. In that case if the person worships God, but has never heard of Jesus I think they go to heaven. If they worship idols then probably not. I am not God and I do not want his job. God is just and will be as fair as he can be. Too many people view God as a lawyer looking for a loophole to kick you out of his house. I think that he is looking for a way to get you in. To send his son to die was love.
ScientificChristian1 1 day ago
@ScientificChristian1 But how do you define idols? There could be many ways to interpret an idol. What of those who worship non Abrahamic gods, such as Hindus and the countless tribal religions of South America and Africa? But I think the biggest question is, what is there is a non christian, who has "rejected" your god, but this is a good person, they help people, they are selfless, kind, and loving. They dedicate their lives to helping others, is this person doomed to hell?
GodHatesCanada 1 day ago
@GodHatesCanada since none of us are in that boat why worry about it? To be clear No one knows and at least I admit it. An idol is anything that replaces God as the most important thing in your life. It could be money, statues of animals, animals themselves,a girl or boyfriend, tv, videogames, drugs, false gods, anything that is put ahead of worshiping God. Define good, how many times does a murderer have to kill to be labeled a murderer, Rape, lying, cheating, hatred. etc
ScientificChristian1 1 day ago
@GodHatesCanada cont The reason the law was given was to have a model of the expectation and to let us know how far all of us are from living it. Is there anyone that has never felt jealousy, hatred, contempt, lust? In our minds we are ok but the standard is perfection. God wants heaven to be perfect so there is not a chance of another lucifer misleading the masses and corrupting heaven. So great is the sin in Gods eyes that he is going to destroy heaven and create a new one.
ScientificChristian1 1 day ago
@GodHatesCa Be careful that you do not judge how good you are by anyone else. Sin is sin and separates us from God. Whether you are separated by a wall that is 1 foot thick or the grand canyon sin separates us from God. I am a pretty good example. I love God but I sin on a daily basis not on purpose, but habits like swearing, wasting time, holding grudges,etc all separate us from God. What makes Christianity different is that we know we cannot earn my way so we need to accept his plan for grace
ScientificChristian1 1 day ago
@ScientificChristian1 At least I'm not a good person because I' m afraid of being punished by an invisible man in the sky. Instead, I try to be a good person because it is the right thing to do and leads to a much happier experience. Life is short, I;d rather not waste it being afraid.
GoongalaGoongala 1 day ago
@ScientificChristian1 "Too many people view God as a lawyer looking for a loophole to kick you out of his house. I think that he is looking for a way to get you in."
God is almighty and all loving, yet he needs to find loopholes to let people go into heaven and not into hell? How silly.
numbcore 1 day ago
@ScientificChristian1 Quite the benevolent god who dooms such a child to an eternity in hell just for being born in the wrong place; unable to find what you call the "truth". Don't you think?
He sent his son to die for the sins he forced upon us in the first place, again sounds like a lovely guy!
Still waiting for a decent answer to my first post as well, I don't know why you're going on about free will.
Ignortheinvincible 4 hours ago
@ScientificChristian1 Wait a second. How can there be freewill if God knows everything that will ever happen? Have you even ever thought about the things the Bible says? Its a huge contradiction. The Bible claims God gave us freewill,yet God knows everything that will ever happen. =Thats not freewill.
GoongalaGoongala 1 day ago
@Ignortheinvincible Choice 3- God is the shit! these are just the answers that your own thought process brought you to. These thoughts occur because of previous stimuli that your brain interpretted in a certain manner. other people could carry out thought processes just like yours that lead them to believe that God is good, strong, or even REAL! Just because these are the only answers you came up with doesn't mean they are the only answers! GOD BLESS YOU
fufuy0 2 days ago
@fufuy0 Actually, my reply is a rewrite of the famous Epicurus quote (I'll paste it after this).
Your inability to chose one and instead go with "none of them because god is fluffy, yay!" basically just proved my point. Your an individual not capable of analytical thinking, not capable of realizing that they're mutually exclusive and one MUST be true. Whenever you feel like arguing like a reasonable person, i.e., actually try to counter my arguments with substance - let me know. Pathetic.
Ignortheinvincible 5 hours ago
@fufuy0
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
Written by Epicurus some time around 300 BCE, disproving (yes, disproving - there's no alternative) the fact that a god can be both benevolent and omnipotent. Should you ever wake up from your illusion, you might realize the implications of these words.
Ignortheinvincible 4 hours ago
@Ignortheinvincible You are framing the question in a lose lose proposition with your is God evil or weak. That would be like me asking you are you a bully or a coward. Obviously you can be neither. God is powerful but is bound by his nature, To remain righteous and holy evil must be punished. As a parent you will learn this, when your kids break your rules you need to punish them. Not out of anger but so they understand that actions have consequences.
ScientificChristian1 1 hour ago
@Ignortheinvincible When god decided to allow free will that set in motion events where some would choose good some would choose evil. All of us have done something wrong to intentionally hurt someone else. That other person is a child of God. Again as a parent you will want to protect your children and reward those that do good and punish those that harm your other children.
ScientificChristian1 1 hour ago
@ScientificChristian1 The Bible is so full of contradictions and inconsistancies its not even funny. Many smart men throughout the centuries have disseted the Bible and all but proven its a load of bullcrap. Just think about it for a second. If God is perfect, and the Bible is the word of God, then why are there so many problems with it?! So many contradictions?! So many inconsistancies?! Face it, the Bible was written by man, no God had anything to do with it because GOD DOES NOT EXIST!
GoongalaGoongala 1 day ago
@GoongalaGoongala I agree written by men for men inspired by God. As far as happiness, i am quite happy, I too live a good life, help out neighbors when I can. Tell others about the good news, that life has a purpose, there is a creator he is awesome and wants to have a relationship with us. That is a far more fulfilling experience than, I help my neighbor, but ultimately we are all an accident with no purpose other than to eventually die and become dust again some day.
ScientificChristian1 11 hours ago
@GoongalaGoongala Freewill is exactly that. God knows what I am going to do and allows me to make my own choices that is freewill. Freewill has consequences and that is true no matter what you believe. If you are sexually active and do not use protection there is a chance you will contract a disease. Then you will be mad at God and blame him for allowing the disease to happen.
ScientificChristian1 11 hours ago
@ScientificChristian1 So many contradictions. Try googling "free will", for the start. Also, you're at no position to say that free will exists. Get a degree in quantum physics, and then you will be. Until then, no one is buying your "'cause jeebus and teh baybel tawed me saew!" bullshit.
yannbane 1 hour ago
Things that make me wanna throw soda at my computer. Inaccurate!!!
batmanfanforever08 5 days ago
@batmanfanforever08 What's inaccurate about it?
studmuffffffin 5 days ago
@studmuffffffin well for one thing no Christian would thank somebody for killing his daughter!!
batmanfanforever08 5 days ago
@batmanfanforever08 The killing helped send her to heaven. In heaven there is perfect happiness. What kind of father wouldn't want perfect happiness for his daughter?
studmuffffffin 5 days ago
@studmuffffffin Good point: I'm gonna put myself in the shoes of the Tumorguy tell you how I would react. I would have wanted the moron to end my life not my daughter's, cuz afteral she's the young one. And the young are s'pose to outlive the old. That's ideal situation.
batmanfanforever08 5 days ago
@batmanfanforever08 So who's gonna take care of her when you are gone? Don't you care about your daughter?
TekLok 5 days ago
@TekLok Well of course I care about her & this is why every child has two parents, not One. It takes Two to reproduce.
batmanfanforever08 5 days ago
@batmanfanforever08 Right but it doesn't appear you need more than one parent to raise a child, and there is no mention of a mother here. They are showing a single father here.
TekLok 5 days ago
@TekLok Right, but what about the father's surviving family?!
batmanfanforever08 5 days ago
@batmanfanforever08 Maybe they are already dead in heaven. Are you talking about reality or this hypothetical scenario in the video. I can't tell anymore. There is not mention of a surviving family in this video.
TekLok 5 days ago
@TekLok I've been mixing a little bit of both all thruout what i've been saying.
batmanfanforever08 4 days ago
@batmanfanforever08 That's extremely selfish. Taking your own happiness above your daughter's.
studmuffffffin 5 days ago
@studmuffffffin actually in the long run my daughter would probably thank me!
batmanfanforever08 5 days ago
@batmanfanforever08 Acting selfishly so you get all the happiness and she's stuck on earth without a dad?
studmuffffffin 5 days ago
@studmuffffffin Try this on for size, I have two older brothers that'll make perfect father figures for this daughter of mine. Besides, giving her a long healthy life makes it possible for her to leave something that humanity needs!!
batmanfanforever08 5 days ago
@batmanfanforever08 Well that's very lucky for you that you have brothers that are willing to raise someone elses kids. I would not feel so obliged. Making children is a real commitment. Not accidents you cart off for other people to worry about when your first chance at paradise arrives.
TekLok 5 days ago
@batmanfanforever08 If heaven is happier than earth, then denying that to your daughter is denying her of perfect happiness and giving her unhappiness.
studmuffffffin 5 days ago
@studmuffffffin stfu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
batmanfanforever08 5 days ago
@batmanfanforever08
Actually, it's right on the money....
gregpasq 5 days ago
@gregpasq Yeah, and i'm the king of england.
batmanfanforever08 5 days ago
@batmanfanforever08
How's Elizabeth now days?
gregpasq 4 days ago
@gregpasq oh ha ha ha, you're very funny. Can anyone say sarcasm?
batmanfanforever08 4 days ago
@batmanfanforever08 Well of course because heaven isn't real. This is a hypothtical world if it was real.
TekLok 5 days ago
@TekLok all hale fantasyland all hale fantasyland, I've seen the light & it says that teklok should get a life. And of heaven is real, I've been there.
batmanfanforever08 5 days ago
@batmanfanforever08 I find it very hard to believe you've found the Christian heaven and returned from it.
TekLok 5 days ago
@TekLok Ever heard of a near death experience! Well I have had my fair share of a few these in the years i've been on this Earth!!
batmanfanforever08 5 days ago
@batmanfanforever08 And this matters? Whats' your point? The brain shuts down and you have memory of hallucinations. Therefore heaven or what?
TekLok 5 days ago
@TekLok Now you're getting it. Heaven comes from outside the body not inside!
batmanfanforever08 5 days ago
@batmanfanforever08 Exactly yeah, you are talking about something completely off topic. This discussion is about the religious views of heaven being an actual place you somehow teleport to upon death. This video isn't about heaven as someone being in harmony with reality.
TekLok 5 days ago
@TekLok Exactly what i'm getting at!
batmanfanforever08 4 days ago
@batmanfanforever08 Perhaps we've failed to stay on track, youtube is often hard to follow when we get up to 10 posts in a row.
TekLok 5 days ago
all i can say is....wow...
TezukaFan1 6 days ago
Honestly one of the most awesome videos I've ever seen on the youtubes.
DazedConfused989 1 week ago
now who is more immoral.....
legomastr1 1 week ago
This is how "Christian Scientists" act, refusing medical treatment, but sadly they force it on their children and kill them too.
Velox415 1 week ago
So are you essentially saying that if someone really believes in heaven they would kill themselves? If you only look at a single aspect of it I think I see how you could say that, but you miss the whole broader picture.
BenjaminWirtz 1 week ago
@BenjaminWirtz No, he's not saying they should kill themselves. He's saying if you REALLY believed in Heaven, than you wouldn't mourn for someone (because they are in a "better" place) and you wouldn't fear death AT ALL (because you'd go to a "better" place). Like the video pointed out, the 9/11 terrorists really did believe in Heaven. After all, they killed themselves, thinking it truly wasn't the end. So YOU are missing the broader picture.
GothicDarkDragon 1 week ago
Wow, this was such a poignant video. You really got the point across in a short but powerful way! I hope as many religious people as possible are watching these videos and seeing the sense in them. Thank you:)
millyybabess 1 week ago
"But where is the pill to make my tumor grow?" Try any multivitamin.
Hazzleeee 1 week ago
I'd say that people who dedicate their lives to worship, ministry or service in the name of their God believe it pretty solidly.
Llywellyn94 1 week ago
@Llywellyn94 sure, they have their little facades, but put them to the test: give em terminal cancer, put them in a slim-survival situation, and they'll flip just like anyone else would. You really have to be insane to COMPLETELY believe it all.
user1maximus 1 week ago
@user1maximus.
Every year thousands of people are martyred for their faiths around the world, I'd say refusing to renouce your faith with a gun to your head is evidence of real belife.Every few weeks (tragiclly) a monk in tibet self immolates in protest, based on their faith. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. set out on his mission knowing that he would probably be killed (and he came close often), based on his faith. To deny that these people believe/d is ignorance pure and simple.
Llywellyn94 1 week ago
@Llywellyn94 Not my point. The fact remains, no one wants to die. Why is it seen as such a tragedy all the time, why do people go so ridiculously far out of their way to avoid death, when the afterlife is supposedly so much better? We can't stop ourselves from fearing it, that's why. Those monks and MLK were undoubtedly scared of death... What sets them apart from the rest is that they were also brave and resolute. We fear the great unknown, because it is simply that: unknown.
user1maximus 1 week ago
@user1maximus actually there exist buddhist monks who can kill themself through complete body control, they can stop their heartbeat and so step into the darkness of death to be reborn in the light of life. (according to themselves) They are not afraid of dying because they believe they will be reborn
lonewolf202 1 week ago
@Llywellyn94 Do you then also admire the hijackers who flew planes into buildings on 9/11? They believed. Or the suicide bombers killing missionaries, teachers, doctors and children? They believed.
Absolute belief in an afterlife is not always a good thing.
Spiderpope 1 week ago
@Spiderpope.
Never said I admire it, simply that to deny that people really do believe is just ignorant.
Llywellyn94 1 week ago
@Llywellyn94 the problem with that is this: thousands is a drop in the ocean of a billion people who supposidly are members of the Catholic Church ALONE. If you were to take the total number of people who follow a religion that believes in the afterlife and compare THAT with the number of people who truly believe in heaven.... the ratio is not favourable, and therefore the number of people who ACTUALLY believe is VERY VERY small indeed.
Voltaire152 1 week ago
@Llywellyn94
o those people believed all right. Its just that fact that they believed in a false fairy story that's sad.
HappyandAtheist 1 week ago
@HappyandAtheist. Prove it.
Llywellyn94 1 week ago
@Llywellyn94
no you are the ones with the wild claim , it is up to you to prove it. If I say to you 'I can fly' you would not waste years trying to prove I cant you would just say 'prove it'. Well you lot are the one saying every thing was made by a giant sky fairy , so the burden of proof is on you , prove it , you have had 200 + years to do it so far and have failed and every day science shows more and more that needs no god.
HappyandAtheist 1 week ago
@HappyandAtheist.
Well that is just a bunch of idiocy.
Religion/faith is not a claim, neither is lack there of.
When someone says say "I believe in God" they have not made a claim, they have stated fact, and when an atheist says "I do not believe in God" the same is true.
It is when those arrogant/ignorant enough to think that they have the objective answer say "I know that..." or "God does/doesn't exist" that a claim is made. You made a claim and I would like you to prove it
Llywellyn94 1 week ago
@Llywellyn94
you want proof ok.
They is no proof for god at all , none , zip , nothing the holy joe' s can not show a single thing that shows that they sky fairy is anything more than a delusion.
HappyandAtheist 1 week ago
@HappyandAtheist.
True, but you made the positive assertion that God does not exist, and I would like you to prove it. You don't want to be the kind of person who claims things with no evidence do you?
Llywellyn94 1 week ago
@Llywellyn94 No one can prove or disprove a god or gods, the bible is nonsense though...that's a fact.
huffdawgs8 1 week ago
@huffdawgs8. Prove it.
Llywellyn94 1 week ago
@Llywellyn94 The 23 chromosome in humans came directly from apes, the only way we could have these same genes is because we inherited them. Its new information and conclusively proves we came from apes. Sorry that you're uneducated and were unaware of this fact.
huffdawgs8 1 week ago
@huffdawgs8. Hahaha.. yes because there is no difference bettween metaphore and nonesense! Everyone knows that childrens stories are just a bunch of ignorant lies, I mean, how can anyone think that the meaning of a story is important if the story isn't true?
Llywellyn94 1 week ago
@Llywellyn94 That's not hard to do.. If there is no evidence that something it exists, it is considered nonexistent until evidence of its existence surfaces.
NubRusty 1 week ago
@NubRusty.
I disagree.
If their is no evidence on a subject then it is rational to believe whatever you want.
Llywellyn94 1 week ago
@Llywellyn94 It's not about what you think, it's about the scientific method. Through characterization, hypothesis, predictions, and experimentation does something go from an idea to become accepted as true.
I hope you don't think pink unicorns are real too without evidence, because I sure wouldn't just believe it if someone told me those were real.
NubRusty 6 days ago
that would be a fucked up world, fuck "heaven"
Nebontha 1 week ago
This video is full of truths down to the stupidity of most religious. Want to grow your tumor? Radiation!!
RawrItsJuul 2 weeks ago
@RawrItsJuul Please don't say that there is no reason for it.
NoTalentXD 1 week ago
@NoTalentXD There is no reason for alot of things and yet they are said.
RawrItsJuul 1 week ago
I think a more appropriate title would be "if people believed heaven existed"
YourRoadToHell 2 weeks ago
It's like saying people don't care if God is NOT their saviour yet punishment would prevail for those sinners because they're too blind to perceive the existence of God's nature since the emergence of molecular patterns spanning over several billions of years.
Ringvireot 2 weeks ago
How is it REALLY possible to rationalize that "what if Heaven existed"? If a person died from a freak accident one day and if he/she is ascended to an alternate dimension where they'd never come back to reality, God would evantually rule out if a substantial amount of sins has been commited by that particular person. And even if they DID commit a very FEW sins here and there - there is NO hope of actually being saved by some mysterious pattern from the further regions of an alternate universe.
Ringvireot 2 weeks ago
Read the Book "Heaven is For Real" and your perspective might change....
Aeg42396 2 weeks ago
@Aeg42396 I'm not saying the little boy didn't have a dream that he interpreted as a visit to Heaven, but why would he go there for any length of time if he was never dead? Jeremiah 23:16.
cengime 1 week ago
@Aeg42396 I highly doubt it, there's literally no evidence in it...
user1maximus 1 week ago
Interesting perspective. Thank you for sharing this video.
miriamthemoon 2 weeks ago
whats the music at the end of the video?
ajax123123 2 weeks ago
Well, if someone buys the idea of heaven from someone ells, indeed they be in joy to learn that they are about to die, and go to heaven because they fit to the application form presented to them by other people who seem to somehow not rush to love their own death.
Humans always believe they deserve more...Especially after they kill someone in the name of something.
Wharwulif 2 weeks ago
Hahahaha you are a genius for putting George Michael in the car!
LordHillaryJoice 2 weeks ago
Thunderfoot cant drive for shit lol
Nerfherder3 2 weeks ago
@Nerfherder3 I meant Philhelliens lol
Nerfherder3 2 weeks ago
Oh Yeah! Why do Christians even mourn their loss?
ReiGrim 2 weeks ago
@ReiGrim Jealousy?
Treblaine 2 weeks ago
This is honestly one of the best videos I've seen on youtube. Great point man!
DamonNicholl 2 weeks ago 33
@DamonNicholl Do you know why Christians don't act like the man in the video?
NoTalentXD 1 week ago
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lahoucine66 1 week ago
@DamonNicholl
what good point is this ?! this is just nonesense video . just like the theater of the absurd
lahoucine66 1 week ago
@lahoucine66 The point of the video is blatantly obvious. And if you think nonsense is incapable of making a point, you are completely missing what life is all about my friend.
DamonNicholl 1 week ago
The biggest evidence to me personally that God is real is the fact that the Catholic Church changed Sabbath Day from Saturday to Sunday. No matter how you spin this, there is no reason for the Catholic church to make people worship on Sunday instead of the original Saturday unless they hate God.
realoverfake 2 weeks ago
@realoverfake Excuse me but i think it is rather trivial dispute this is. I don't think God really cares what day you worship him. He wants you to give praise to him all days. Just leave them alone please . I have great respect for that group and amire them this is a very petty issue. thank you and have a great day.
casablanca4381 2 weeks ago
@casablanca4381 God does care which day. It is one of the commandments, a big deal to God our Creator.
realoverfake 2 weeks ago
@realoverfake what im saying is I think god wants yu to keep himin your heart every day... not just think of him one day of the week and forget about him. God said to put him first.
casablanca4381 2 weeks ago
@realoverfake i point out to protestants worship on sunday as well... do they hate god ... no i don't think that
casablanca4381 2 weeks ago
@realoverfake as i said this is rather trivial arguement to bicker over in the grand plan of God, just chill out my friend and let them be and be at peace with your brethern... not to cause strife... th bible speaks numerously about being at peace with each other and not in strife
casablanca4381 2 weeks ago
@casablanca4381 Yes I know. Muslims pray five times a day. My problem is why did the Catholic Church change the Sabbath day from Saturday to Sunday.
realoverfake 2 weeks ago
@casablanca4381 I know why but every Catholic is clueless they are part of an evil religion which twists the Word of God.
realoverfake 2 weeks ago
@realoverfake first of all i don't agree with you, that is not an evil religion. i don't think catholics are clueless... i think that is an over generalization and 3 I think every single judeo christian has a different interpreation of scripture. are they evil? no... they have a different view and interpretaiton. 4 do you really wan to to debate this rationally or just want to argue? if it's latter i have no time for this. This a good religion and am familiar w
casablanca4381 2 weeks ago
@casablanca4381 You're completely ignoring the fact the Catholic Church changed the Sabbath Day to Sunday. Go to remnantofgod (dot) org (slash) beastword (dot) htm.
realoverfake 2 weeks ago
@ i don't have to aceept your views as fact or yours mine on them but i don't intend to talk to someone who just wants to quarrel
casablanca4381 2 weeks ago
@casablanca4381 Even todays bible mentions God would save Jesus if they tried anything and He did. The resurrection is a pagan idea from Egyptian Mythology the Vatican brought to Chris
realoverfake 2 weeks ago
@realoverfake what you say is not entirely true. the catholic church encouraged the replacement of pagan religions with the judeo chritian one. the pagan took the ideas and tried to apply them to their own religion. you need to leave me alone . I will not change my mind i have blocked you,now kindly leave
casablanca4381 2 weeks ago
@casablanca4381 Lol you sound scared. Please tell me what part of Christmas is Judeo Christians and not Pagan. It's not the lit up trees, that's clearly pagan. The gifts?
realoverfake 2 weeks ago
@casablanca4381 Nope thats what the pagans were doing before Christ. Their sun god was born on December 25th. Jesus was born in September. Is it the egg nog? NOPE
realoverfake 2 weeks ago
@casablanca4381 Do you know why Romans crucified people? To them, it was a way of cursing people. They wanted to prove Jesus was not the Messiah so they tried to curse him.
realoverfake 2 weeks ago
@casablanca4381 But it didn't work. God save him so instead of killing him physically, they killed him mentally in the minds of people everywhere. Dont deny the Truth
realoverfake 2 weeks ago
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warangel87 2 weeks ago
@realoverfake ok so answer me this were there two angels at his grave or one? because I read the different books and it can't be both. Was he born during Herod's reign or ten years after? it can't be both but some how there it is... both are in there...Was Eve made from adam's rib or from the dirt? that one is in the same book not too far from each other actually
warangel87 2 weeks ago
@realoverfake again this wasa website written of a man understanding of scripture and views. and person who had a certain agenda inmind
casablanca4381 2 weeks ago
@realoverfake their history and bible. so please don't feel your disdain and intolerance and be kind to your brthern as christ would.
casablanca4381 2 weeks ago
@casablanca4381 Catholics are clueless because if they had any clue what the Vatican does and did (Nazi Influence) - they would not be Catholics! It's that plain and simple.
realoverfake 2 weeks ago
@realoverfake christ died on good friday nd resurrected on sunday. the catholic church acknowledges this and celebrate it as do protestant(who by the way some have kep t their practice
casablanca4381 2 weeks ago
@casablanca4381 This is not a "quarrel". If i proved to you drinking soda is bad which it is, wouldn't you stop drinking soda? Well I am showing the Vatican is evil, don't you want to
realoverfake 2 weeks ago
@realoverfake like celebrating on sunday being among them. God doesn't like a quarrelling so i'm not going to give the satisfaction of engaging me in a quarrel. Have a good day:)
casablanca4381 2 weeks ago
@casablanca4381 leave it? For the sake of your soul? I'm only trying to help you. I told you the youngest bible ever found proves the resurrection never happened.
realoverfake 2 weeks ago
@realoverfake i think your statemtnt that they hate god is very over generalized. I don't think so. what i ahve observed they have a real respect and love for god. I have a ;lot of catholic friends and genuinely love god and serve others. Please you probably don't like it when people rag on what religion you are or lack of one whatever it may be. why do it to them. my advice we need to learn to be respectful of each other and kind and loving , not tear each other down.
casablanca4381 2 weeks ago
@casablanca4381 People can rag on my religion all they want. I know everything about it. Islam is the truth and the Word of God. But all catholics have been deceived and the Catholic Church is Pagan. Just look up their true history. It started with Constantine. The oldest bible ever found never claimed Jesus to be divine and didn't mention the resurrection. The Catholic Church brought earlier pagan ideas and placed them on Christianity which is falsehood against Gods Word.
realoverfake 2 weeks ago
@casablanca4381 Mystery Babylon the Great = The Catholic Church. Many of the earlier Christian groups often referred to the Catholic Church as the Anti-Christ.
realoverfake 2 weeks ago
If Xians believe heaven exists, would they mind if I killed one of their (Xian) loved ones? If so, why? I've sent my victim to heaven.
JMUDoc 2 weeks ago
The message at the end of the video was really powerful. The video itself was good as well. Keep up the good work.
ilrichard 2 weeks ago
thor is the god of thunder right, so thunder is real, and hammers are real so that must means thor is real right lol,
NickErdody3 2 weeks ago
where did all the tomatoes come from XD
bonkuraysan 2 weeks ago in playlist Atheistic Animations
yes tht guy who killed the girl is probably going omg omg omg im going to hell!!!
nawstra578 2 weeks ago
I have been researching The Afterlife, and from what I know, Christians (as well as other religous folk) are wrong both ways.
If the Afterlife does not exist, no Heaven.
If the Afterlife does exist, theists go to a reality generated by thier bullshit beliefs (Focus 24-26) where they are stuck until they realize religon is bullshit. Once they do, they move on to The Afterlife (Focus 27).
So, ironicly, the Afterlife is for atheists/agnostics. XD
Vierzbanator 3 weeks ago
haha religion is retarded
andollio1337 3 weeks ago
@andollio1337 The video is a good argument against certain religions, not against religion itself. You're the one who's being a retard here, not religion.
Colafreakz 3 weeks ago
@Colafreakz all religions have something stupid like this. its retarded.
andollio1337 3 weeks ago
@andollio1337 That's not true, you obsiously don't know the definition of religion - the only thing you know about is the "mainstream" religions.
Colafreakz 2 weeks ago
@Colafreakz Of course there is always an exception, but from my point of view the majority of the religions are similar to this. Thats why I say its retarded. Im not going to sit here naming all the religions i can think of that can relate to this video lol.
andollio1337 2 weeks ago
@Colafreakz ... If religion serves any useful purpose it should be to make people more honest with themselves, not to promote delusional thinking.
imjustpassinthru 3 weeks ago
@imjustpassinthru ... If atheism serves any useful purpose it should be to make people more honest with themselves, not to promote delusional thinking.
Colafreakz 2 weeks ago 35
@Colafreakz i only wish that humanity had realized this sooner
NightnGales 2 weeks ago
Okay another stupid atheist video. A very small percentage of religious people take heaven to that far of an extreme.
yodudespence 3 weeks ago
@yodudespence
No, it's stupid theistic beliefs. We're pointing it out to you.
EssenceOfThought 3 weeks ago
@EssenceOfThought Well let them live in ignorance. I beginning to see that it is bliss!
yodudespence 3 weeks ago
@yodudespence
No, it's YOU living in ignorance. Even with rational things pointed out to you you still scream. Sadly your ignorance is also harmfull to all others and we end up suffering for it. There's a reason I grew out of religion, I got wiser.
EssenceOfThought 3 weeks ago
@EssenceOfThought and yet you still don't listen. you seem to think i am some evangelical christian trying to show you the faith. I was saying religion is ignorance. Why do you think I was calling you ignorant. read the context!!! And who is screaming? you seem to be the one getting mad and butt hurt.
yodudespence 3 weeks ago
@yodudespence
First of all, you set yourself up with your original comment on the video, I may have may have misinterpreted your reply, but does not excuse your first surely? what logic is that based on? And yes, you clearly are the one screaming. I merely highlight a word for your better reading, many Christians incapable of reading their own bible. Compared to your rage marks. :p
EssenceOfThought 3 weeks ago
@EssenceOfThought what rage remarks? do you think any christian is happy to die? I was raised in the faith Ill give you that so I know with a deep understanding how they feel. Yes christians do believe they are going to heaven. None are glad to die. They are obsessed with this world. It is to a basic belief to live as long as possible on earth. But many are sure there is a heaven. If you believe it is stupid or not is another story.
yodudespence 3 weeks ago
@EssenceOfThought and you are right about christians not reading their bible enough. usually you find people who actually are more bible knowledgable are usually less religious. I can just kill almost any christian in a biblical debate. even pastors.
yodudespence 3 weeks ago
@yodudespence
I do not believe many are happy to die, which is the irony that this video is attempting to point out. If there was the promise of eternal bliss, why would they want to hold on?
EssenceOfThought 3 weeks ago
@EssenceOfThought Friends, family, loved ones, the next football season, should I continue? They dont long too much for the death but really do lose alot of the fear of it. By the way i looked back. All because i said you atheists means I am christian? is that what u meant?
yodudespence 3 weeks ago
@yodudespence
No, the fact that you had to use an insult as an opening "another stupid atheist video" If you wish to be treated with respect it may have been better to open with "Personally, I disagree with this" In which case you would of set the bar as civil, rather than just insult match.
EssenceOfThought 3 weeks ago
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@yodudespence "They dont long too much for the death but really do lose alot of the fear of it."
Congratulations. You've just hit upon the quintessential reason gods were invented.
Inclousid 3 weeks ago
@yodudespence So why don't you?
artemis3120 3 weeks ago