so since it is not blind chance you can say put an organism in an environment with differentianting factors like limited resources, mates, etc. and be able to accuratly right on the dot predict what it will do? no sadly this is why it is still a theory
Oh, so you believe in this TOE (theory on everything) but yet you want to divide it into categories? I'm sorry, that you want to try to cram the theory of evolution down our throats and at the same time to quote the TOE as gospel but yet say it is only applied to things other than evolution. Get this, and I am going to move on after I tell you--A theory is just that-- an UNPROVEN OPINION>. That's all you are prancing around with--an UNPROVEN OPINION.
I am not refering to String Theory here.... The title of this video (can you read?) is "Some Basics - Evolutionary Theory" This is biological!!! Living matter!!! Can you comprehend that? ToE = Thoery of Evolution. I think you hit a whole new level of dumb.... Read a science book, any before trying to reply, thanks
"A theory is just that-- an UNPROVEN OPINION>"
So gravity doesnt exist either? A theory explains a fact, such as gravity, so this argument is false.
If matter can neither be created nor destroyed, where did it come from? If evolution is true, where are all the fossils of the half ape/half man species? Evolution is NOT a scientific fact but only a THEORY. Yet, you that are so exact leap to BELIEVE something that is neither true nor can you prove it to be true. You even change the laws of science to accommodate certain untruths that you want to give credence.
You actually think that you can blow my questions off by thie "lack of understanding" approach? If you can not answer them, why don't you just move on tp some other subject that you do not understand and try to impress people with your insight? Your THEORY of evolution does not have any supporting fact, yet you want to BELIEVE it and to have it taught as fact in our schools?
The title of the video is "Some Basics - Evolutionary Theort" ToE has nothing to do with the origin of the universe. You should learn the basics (maybe watch this vid) on ToE before trying to state it's wrong by saying it cant explain something that it HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH!!! how do you not understand htat?
if you want to know the answer, why not look for it?
I googled, "cosmology where did all the matter come from" and found many helpful links you should look at
but basically, matter comes from energy and at the time of the big bang, the entore universe (which was very small) was soley energy. if you ask where the energy came from, that you will need to search yourself...
Simply put, I am not going to allow you to drag me into this silly children's game!!! YOU are the dumb ass and it is written in the holy bible that to try to tell a fool something is a waste of the breath, and in this case, it is a waste of my time. So, take this video and play with it with others that may have the same atheistic convictions. I have said all I intend to say to you because you fit in the category that makes me think I am wasting my time.
You fit in the same mold as all athiests. When someone asks you questions that you can not answer, you either cloud the issue or start calling people dumb and even stronger childish names. You seem to have done both. THIS shows your stupidity.
This is a video on biological evolution, you asked a cosmology question... how do you not understand they are not related? Ask me a relavant question and i'll answer, but by your other posts, it is obvious you refuse to look at any site that doesnt have jesus or bible in the url.... Google, "berkley evolution" they have a great documnet on common topics for ToE, if you really are willing to learn
The truth of the matter is that the THEORY of evolution does not have proof that there was a gradual changing from one species to another over the eons and the advocates are trying to invent some now. Not ONE transitional species exists in our museums regardless of the hundreds of exact species of extinct prehistoric animals. How does that grab you?
salamanders and frogs....lol^^ plz tell me...how did it happened that a frog became a salamander?. does someone bullied the frog which made it angry and evolved into salamander?....lol^^
Just because you refuse to accept transitional fossils doesn't mean they don't exist. ALL fossils are transitional.
Also, speciation has actually been observed, both in the lab and in agriculture.
Further, your capitalization of "theory" implies you don't understand the difference between a colloquial theory and a scientific one. A bit of googling and wikipedia-ing may help you there as well.
VERY INTERESTING:Textbook examples of evolution evaporate when researchers actually study them. For example, peacock's tail did not evolve to please hen birds. The "peppered moth" of textbook fame has devolved into a peppered myth,with charges & countercharges. Remember the vertebrate embryos in your textbook? Dubbed as the "most famous fakes" in biology? Darwin's Tree of Life? It's now a tangleweed. We aren't going to improve science education by teaching Darwinian fairy tales.
one slide that says believing in creation means believing genetics, geology, etc are incorrect. they are correct as they stand. there is variation and microevolution, genetics does explain how and why microevolution occurs. however, the theory of evolution is just that, a theory, no matter how many professors con students into thinking it is fact. it's not. why? just because there is microevolution, doesn't mean there was chemical and macroevolution.
so where are the un evolved human? missing? yah parasites into snail and i can see them both... so how about the humans? humans continually breeds and not a single of them shows the un evolved one not also in the history.. i dont know this things so can you educate me about my questions?
One hypothesis would be less complex, non-living 'cells', similar to today's viruses( RNA retroviruses). Just one hypothesis of many that are being tested(> 50 yrs). Science is getting close to an answer. Until then, we can comfortably say we are not sure yet. That's it.
how come humans are not evolving into something that can drink polluted water, breath polluted air, stand the uv rays coming from the sun because of the big ass hole in the ozone?.i thought evolution was for things to adapt to there enviroment? everything was in prefect order, now as the scientist say there wont be any life on earth in a couple hundred years because the enviroment is unbalanced. global warming etc........ there is place set for everything in the living kingdom.
The very fact evolution tries to state there is no God in the making of life, well that very system must also be able to tell where it all came from and they do try. Don't try and tell me they don't lol. It's the reason why there is such a strong reason why evolution couldn't of taken place because everything else would have to of "just" happened as well. Clearly showing you can't have one without the other.
The theory of evolution makes no such claim. Please show me a paper that states otherwise... and I have no idea what else you are rambling about. Please educate on ToE yourself before posting comments on it.
Where did energy come from. Please in your reply try not to break the laws of science. Science says energy can not be created nor destroyed. So how is it here, where did it come from.
I believe the creator "lent" some of his energy to this universe, we see the after affects of that event now. I'm not breaking the law of science and it's far more simple than any system you come up with. However, whats the other law of science about going the path the simplest? hmm?
However, trying to say life came from dead matter just doesn't happen anymore than the Boeing 747 coming from nothing. But you would have me believe it could. Any idea how much more complex the human body is over the 747?
but its what your telling people happened You have no hard science to back it up. I'm sorry but your own story keeps changing. The evolution story keeps on changing every time something doesn't fit anymore. The only thing that evolves on this planet, is the story of evolution.
Let's talk about how far advanced DNA is to anything we know. How we don't even understand the technology in which it can store massive amounts of data in such a small package. Let's talk about the job of DNA and the genes.
Personally i know why you guys believe the way you do. I came from the same schools. It's just not a logical thinking process. Life came from dead matter, however we don't see it, we can't repeat it, etc. All the laws of science say, it could not of happen.
Then let me ask you something, if it's all about truth and not about something you want.
Why are you so "against" God. Your song says it best. "now it's time for war", is how you look at it.
There is no way with science to prove evolution takes place anymore then science to prove there is a God, wrong tool for both items. Your system is a man made religion which you worship and must have blind faith in to believe. At least i know Jesus Christ was a real person on this planet.
Here you go again..."We dont "try to believe" we look at the evidence and decide what is true"...Which evidence did you look and then decided to say "there is no God"? I admit there is no physical (in the scientific sense of it) proof for God's existence. It's indeed a matter of choice. We both face the same lackness of proof yet we decide to believe different things. If God's existence could be scientifically proven we wouldn't have much choice in believing in Him or not, would we?
And here's the main problem with evolution. It's so illogical it's not even funny anymore. You want me to believe that, plants had a start somewhere and by chance evolve into what we have now, and somehow the animals did the same thing. All by chance.
A eF5 hits a junk yard and you want me to believe a Boeing 747 and space shuttle was left in the wake.
You want me to believe order comes from chaos. I'm sorry, Evolution is not even a good theory anymore. It's a dead dog many want kicked.
Decent with modification imposed by natural selection, that easy
You just tried to put to things together you know good and well did not happen. Natural selection, your kidding right? Really... That's the best you have? Hell i thought you had real science to back up mutation. LOL just more bs about how a normal system we know of, working for evolution when you know it does not!
Natural selection does one thing. Keeps the genes strong. If you have a family of rats, the weak, slow and sick will get eatin' up by something while the strong genes continue on. This we can see. However we NEVER get mutation from it.
How about let's thank God Bacteria stays bacteria because if we ever run out of bacteria we are all DEAD. How about you study how if the human body had no bacteria in it, you would DIE! At what point did the human body decide it needs some bacteria in it to make it work, if so what types? So was there at some point humans without bacterium? Or maybe just had really bad gas? Oh wait without gas your bowels wouldn't work, ouch. That was a tough 5 million years! Poor monkeys.
And you still seem to be under the impression there is an goal to evoltuion, as in a supreme being, this is not the case, things only change to adapt to their surroundings, this may happen a millions differnt ways. You cant jsut say this is going to evole into that... it does not work like that... do you understand this?
My point is simple. How did animals change into others, what food did they eat? Why did plants change into something to be food? How did the plants and animals "evolve" at the same time? Because your not just saying "animals" evolve, your saying animals and plants evolve, but how did one know about the other. When did the cow start eating grass? Why did it start to eat grass, and how did grass get here.
Of course plants AND animals evolve, they are both living beings that can reproduce
again and again you show your lack of understand of even the most basic of basics of the theory, until you have an intelligent post, I am ignoring you from now on
show me one plant evolving right now. Where is one? We have fossils of plants, and then still have the VERY same plant on this earth, you guys date the rock millions of years old. So, why hasn't the plant changed? You see the biggest problem you have with things "changing" is the living fossils. We have proof that things are in fact not changing.
At what point do you believe they smaller stopped evolving so big fish could eat them? Or once flight was found, why didn't all animals form some type of flight system? The bumble bee can fly, but humans can not? Why is that if we are the most advanced, also you say "millions of years" but only in the last 100 we have known how to build a machine to fly. LOL
Your questions show your lack of understanding of the theory itself. There is no top level, no "most advandced" only those evoled enough to survive in their environment.
If it was necessary or an advantage for humans to fly, they either would have the ability to fly or die out.
But, humans have not evolved in a way to allow flight, so that really isn't even an option. Birds have hollow bones and feathers... if you think a human could jsut fly, I really can't help you.
No, my point about it, what drives the "evolution" to keep man stuck on the planet. I mean, why did we not develop "hollow" bones? Why would we not want to move around such as birds do? Would it not be easier to hunt? But then when you look upon the earth, humans are by the advanced.I just happen to think they where made to be under humans, for the use and pleasure of humans. Cows Dogs etcWhen was the doggies revolt for dog rights? Wait a min hasn't animals been on the planet longer than humans?
I accidently deleted your post, "but it did for the mocking bird? How's that? LOL come on, your in a cycle now... oh boy..."
Every creature has a different path, i thougth that was obvious.... not all creatures are in the exact same spot and affected by the same circumstances.
However, if everything is evolving and animals have had the lead time on the planet, why did humans advance so quickly and everything else so slow? Why has not the chicken learned to fly by now? Wouldn't you call it the weak link vs say a hawk? No these systems was made so everything could survive. Let's not forget, if you take out just one of these major systems, the whole thing doesn't work. I'm sorry people evolution just couldn't of happen. The world we live in, wouldn't work any other way.
Bacteria "evolve" quicker then humans, your statement is false.
Why don't you research why a chicken cant fly and find out yourself? And if you want to know the truth, stay away from bible sites.
Maybe this quote from Darwin will help you understand, "It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change."
What the hell is "bacteria" evolving into? Do you mean it "changes"? Just what are you trying to say here? Is bacteria changing into a worm? Or is bacteria staying bacteria?
You still dont understand the basic concepts of the theory of evolution, I have spent years reading and watching lectures, I suggest you do the same if you are truely interested. Change (w/ decent) and Natural Selection are how evolution works... Yes the bacteria chagnes to adapt to it's environment, otherwise it would become insticnt
I've always been curios about how ToE explains the separation of sexes (male and female)? What could have been the cause of it? Cause it does not make a lot of sense to me to complicate the process of evolution? I don't see how this could ever be more beneficial to the progress of the evolutionary chain. If it was accidental how's that it wasn't corrected because I don't really see how at any time that "something" decided it's better for us to make it harder to reproduce.
From you, "No these systems was made so everything could survive."
Everything survive? Are you sugesting there are no extinct species?
AS for your claim of "if you take out just one of these major systems, the whole thing doesn't work." this is jsut false, please search youtube for "Ken Miller on irreducible complexity" you will see for yourself.
Sure we have extinct animals. Humans can not live on this planet without the plants, or animals. It all works in cycles. So how could one system be in place without the other. You not only try to say humans evolved, but that animals and plants did all at the same time and SPEED. But then some how... stopped right about the time you want to tell me it's taking place.
Sorry it took so long to reply. Had trouble w/youtube. Well, doesn't NS rely on mutations or just in general, mutations are required for species to evolve. And there are so few beneficial mutations that even w/the Old Earth timeline, it still isn't possible?
There is no lack of transitional fossils. You can start with Tiktaalik and go from there to any of the many that are listed on Wikipedia or in any encyclopedia. Natural selection is the process by which favorable heritable traits become more common in successive generations. I'm not sure what a "higher order" is, but the successive generations are superior to the preceding ones...
Evolultion may be a "theory" and thats why many people who beleive in Creation dont beleive in Evolution itself, but hold up, doesnt all planets orbit the sun? And the moon orbits the Earth? This is yet again a "Theory" but is placed in the bible?
Now thats not how science is done, and you probably know it, though you dare not admit it, since you probably are afraid of questioning your own beliefs. The beauty of science is that anyone with the competence is welcome to question it, and so has been done for many years, from a neutral perspective to judge it. The conclusion is, evolution is pretty much validated. You dont want to face it, so you keep saying that there is no evidence. During the time, evidence keep coming every now and then.
Name the exact animal that man evolved from. Tell me when it happened and show evidence of this. Also, show me a plant or animal that doesn't produce after its own kind. Also, the theory of evolution has spawned a metaphysical belief system that is based totally on faith (its a religion)its so extreme that if you ask for evidence of its validity you are ostrocized and ridiculed as if you are beyond imbecile. I suggest you do some real research rather than believing pseudo science.
The exact animal? You believe that evolution suggest that some animal just gave birth to a man? No scientists claim that. Evolution happens at small small rate over long time. I can give you a list of forerunners to man if that's what you want. No, it is not based on faith. It's simply the most reasonable explanation based on fossile findings and genetic research and much more. Sure you can ask for evidence. Ask any scientist for evidence. He/she will give it to you. I'm not qualified though.
I didn't think you could answer the question. this is why evolutionism is a religion and not science. Science would be like when you explain gravity or the laws of thermodynamics. They can be explain to a high degree of confirmation. Evolution on the otherhand is only speculation and faith, therefore evoluton sould be taught in the religion dept. not the science dept.
He did answer your question. The exact animal that evolved into man? Depends on when you start counting things as being man. The entire Homo genus can be counted as "man", so you would need the common ancestor to Erectus, Sapien, Neanderthal, ect.
The class of creature that did this was the Genus Australopithecus. This Genus most likely came from the Genus Ardipithecus. What exactly are you asking for?
The class of creature that did this was the Genus Australopithecus. This Genus most likely came from the Genus Ardipithecus. What exactly are you asking for?
Do you have absolute proof that Australopithecus was our ancestor? If so, What is this absolute proof?
The sequence of the Human Genome as compared with the Chimpanzee genome, our fused #2 chromosone which is scientifically proven to be two great ape chomosones fused together, the morphological similarities between H. Sapien and H. Erectus, the mitocondrial tracers back to our common origin in Africa which spawned all the Homo genus, the presense of Neanderthal genetic material in our nuclear DNA - this is without me actually looking anything up.
If the human and chimpanzee genomes are 10% different, it rules out the possibility that humans and chimpanzees evolved from a common ancestor. If the difference between the two genomes is 10% then the total number of differences in the DNA sequence would be approximately 300 million nucleotide bases (10% of 3 billion nucleotides present in humans or chimpanzees), and when "indels" are included in the homology between humans and apes the percentage of difference jumps to more than 10%.
Answer in Genesis butchered the whole concept of genetic biology.
Britten, Roy J. 2002. Divergence between samples of chimpanzee and human DNA sequences is 5% counting indels. Proceedings of the National Academy of Science USA 99: 13633-13635.
Britten is almost accurate, but genomic databases and the current literature indicates that the sequence homology between humans and chimpanzees may be less than 90%, as more genomic regions, such as heterochromatin (regions of condensed noncoding DNA) and unresolved alignment gaps are included in homology studies. The research is still being done, and as it is done more gaps in the theory are found. Never-the-less, a 95% difference would require far more than a 5 million year gap.
Pardon, I meant to say a 95% similarity would require far more than a 5 million year gap.
Look I know that you relish the idea that man came from apes and you will fight to the death to believe it, but it just isn't so. The theory is far too sloppy and can't be shown. Even "Haldane's Dilemma" shows that a 98.5% similarity would require far more than a 5 million year gap. The Human/Ape ancestry can't be shown.
The conclusion is, evolution is pretty much validated. You dont want to face it, so you keep saying that there is no evidence.
I suppose you saying it makes it valid. All I'm asking for is evidence, but you offer "its true believe it" well I'm sorry, but that doesn't begin to come close. Show me the evidence.
If Evolution is actually true and Not a "Theory"...Then how do you explain the Cambrian Explosion and Such a huge gap in the fossil Record? Evolution is not abruptly changing in the way the cambrian fossils have...
You have the full right to believe in a 2,000 year old book translated into over 30 languages, which after doing the math, some 'characters' turn out to be over 900 years old;
Darwin in Origin of Species: "The number of intermediate varieties, which have formerly existed on earth, [must] be truly enormous. Why then is not every geological formation and every stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely graduated organic chain: and this, perhaps, is the most obvious and gravest objection which can be urged against my theory."
I love Wikipedia as much as the next person. But, as of now it is not acceptable as a scientific site. Hopefully soon it will be, as they are improving it to make it more legitimate.
wow you know the simpilest way to get someone that beleives in ID to shut up tell them that god is like a kid with a magnifing glass he makes us then he makes deseases just to watch us suffer. Wow what an all loving god we have. lol
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In reality, paleontology and genetics are the two biggest sources of intellegent design. the fact that the fossil record is not revealing the transitional forms needed to support Darwins THEORY, and genetics are revealing the truth of irreducable complexity. neither on of these sciences a supporting Darwin, they are actually going to be his downfall
You are so right in what you said! Thanks for the support. I'm just getting started with all this, hopefully I'll have some more detailed and better put together vids soon.
Evolution, master technician, master organizer, master electricain, master engineer, master plumber, master camera maker, master computer technician, master structural engineer, master audiotory devisor, evolution did all of this?
RespectMyHate 1 year ago
so since it is not blind chance you can say put an organism in an environment with differentianting factors like limited resources, mates, etc. and be able to accuratly right on the dot predict what it will do? no sadly this is why it is still a theory
Somespatanwarrior 2 years ago
@Somespatanwarrior - Did you graduate an accredited college?
acfacf4321 2 years ago
@Somespatanwarrior
you don't understand what it means to be a scientific theory. please, educate yourself.
pyr666 1 year ago
Oh, so you believe in this TOE (theory on everything) but yet you want to divide it into categories? I'm sorry, that you want to try to cram the theory of evolution down our throats and at the same time to quote the TOE as gospel but yet say it is only applied to things other than evolution. Get this, and I am going to move on after I tell you--A theory is just that-- an UNPROVEN OPINION>. That's all you are prancing around with--an UNPROVEN OPINION.
oldcountrytunes 3 years ago
I am not refering to String Theory here.... The title of this video (can you read?) is "Some Basics - Evolutionary Theory" This is biological!!! Living matter!!! Can you comprehend that? ToE = Thoery of Evolution. I think you hit a whole new level of dumb.... Read a science book, any before trying to reply, thanks
"A theory is just that-- an UNPROVEN OPINION>"
So gravity doesnt exist either? A theory explains a fact, such as gravity, so this argument is false.
nethius 3 years ago
If matter can neither be created nor destroyed, where did it come from? If evolution is true, where are all the fossils of the half ape/half man species? Evolution is NOT a scientific fact but only a THEORY. Yet, you that are so exact leap to BELIEVE something that is neither true nor can you prove it to be true. You even change the laws of science to accommodate certain untruths that you want to give credence.
oldcountrytunes 3 years ago
this question shows your lack of understanding...
"If matter can neither be created nor destroyed, where did it come from?"
ToE has nothing to do with the origin of 'matter'. Therefore ToE does not answer that, as it has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT
nethius 3 years ago
You actually think that you can blow my questions off by thie "lack of understanding" approach? If you can not answer them, why don't you just move on tp some other subject that you do not understand and try to impress people with your insight? Your THEORY of evolution does not have any supporting fact, yet you want to BELIEVE it and to have it taught as fact in our schools?
oldcountrytunes 3 years ago
The title of the video is "Some Basics - Evolutionary Theort" ToE has nothing to do with the origin of the universe. You should learn the basics (maybe watch this vid) on ToE before trying to state it's wrong by saying it cant explain something that it HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH!!! how do you not understand htat?
nethius 3 years ago
if you want to know the answer, why not look for it?
I googled, "cosmology where did all the matter come from" and found many helpful links you should look at
but basically, matter comes from energy and at the time of the big bang, the entore universe (which was very small) was soley energy. if you ask where the energy came from, that you will need to search yourself...
nethius 3 years ago
Simply put, I am not going to allow you to drag me into this silly children's game!!! YOU are the dumb ass and it is written in the holy bible that to try to tell a fool something is a waste of the breath, and in this case, it is a waste of my time. So, take this video and play with it with others that may have the same atheistic convictions. I have said all I intend to say to you because you fit in the category that makes me think I am wasting my time.
oldcountrytunes 3 years ago
LOL
You are indeed wasting your time by listening idiots like kent hovind
nethius 3 years ago
"why don't you just move on tp some other subject that you do not understand and try to impress people with your insight?"
you are the one changing subjects, again ToE (Biology) and Big Bang (Cosmology) are NOT the same thing.
Do you think biology and cosmolgy are the same science? One deals with the living and one deals with the non living. do you know which is which?
nethius 3 years ago
You fit in the same mold as all athiests. When someone asks you questions that you can not answer, you either cloud the issue or start calling people dumb and even stronger childish names. You seem to have done both. THIS shows your stupidity.
oldcountrytunes 3 years ago
This is a video on biological evolution, you asked a cosmology question... how do you not understand they are not related? Ask me a relavant question and i'll answer, but by your other posts, it is obvious you refuse to look at any site that doesnt have jesus or bible in the url.... Google, "berkley evolution" they have a great documnet on common topics for ToE, if you really are willing to learn
nethius 3 years ago
and ToE is indeed a fact, if you choose not to accept that fact, it;s like saying 2+4 does not = 4
nethius 3 years ago
If evolution is true, where are all the fossils of the half ape/half man species?
First they arent half and half, but htis is what you are looking for... very easy to find if you actually look...
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nethius 3 years ago
The truth of the matter is that the THEORY of evolution does not have proof that there was a gradual changing from one species to another over the eons and the advocates are trying to invent some now. Not ONE transitional species exists in our museums regardless of the hundreds of exact species of extinct prehistoric animals. How does that grab you?
oldcountrytunes 3 years ago
dude, search, there are tons... you just refuse to look
google transitional fossils, talk origins has a huge list...
even today, look at salamanders and frogs, they can use both water and land...
nethius 3 years ago
Evolution is stripped raw from Hindu and Freemasonry religions, you stupid pathetic talking primates. Research that!
Oh a frog is proof!!!! WOW
nonameneeded07 2 years ago
salamanders and frogs....lol^^ plz tell me...how did it happened that a frog became a salamander?. does someone bullied the frog which made it angry and evolved into salamander?....lol^^
roniepao 2 years ago
you really dont have a clue... i cant help you there
nethius 2 years ago
Just because you refuse to accept transitional fossils doesn't mean they don't exist. ALL fossils are transitional.
Also, speciation has actually been observed, both in the lab and in agriculture.
Further, your capitalization of "theory" implies you don't understand the difference between a colloquial theory and a scientific one. A bit of googling and wikipedia-ing may help you there as well.
ChaseKittens 2 years ago
VERY INTERESTING:Textbook examples of evolution evaporate when researchers actually study them. For example, peacock's tail did not evolve to please hen birds. The "peppered moth" of textbook fame has devolved into a peppered myth,with charges & countercharges. Remember the vertebrate embryos in your textbook? Dubbed as the "most famous fakes" in biology? Darwin's Tree of Life? It's now a tangleweed. We aren't going to improve science education by teaching Darwinian fairy tales.
gareof 3 years ago
What are you going on about?
If you believe magic man made us, you are the one following fairy tales
nethius 3 years ago
"magic man" wow never heared that before
kobasica 3 years ago
So, geology staes the Earth is approx 4.5B years old, you agree with that or deny that fact?
Micro and Macro Evolvuiton are THE SAME THING! one is over more time.
Jsut a theory? go back to grade school, do you deny gravity as well? atomic theory? etc...
A theory explains a fact, please learn basic science before you repsond
nethius 3 years ago
Let me make this more clear
Evoluiton is a FACT
Evolutionary Theory is a THEORY
Evolutionary Theory explains the fact of Evolution.
nethius 3 years ago
one slide that says believing in creation means believing genetics, geology, etc are incorrect. they are correct as they stand. there is variation and microevolution, genetics does explain how and why microevolution occurs. however, the theory of evolution is just that, a theory, no matter how many professors con students into thinking it is fact. it's not. why? just because there is microevolution, doesn't mean there was chemical and macroevolution.
supermariofj 3 years ago
AGAIN WHAT SPARKED EVOLUTION?
queiraw 3 years ago
YOU ALREADY HAVE YOUR ANSWER!
nethius 3 years ago
and also evolutionists cant show transitions of evolution... why is that?
cuteakoeh 3 years ago
Here ya go...
wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils
add that after wikipedia [dot] org
nethius 3 years ago
so where are the un evolved human? missing? yah parasites into snail and i can see them both... so how about the humans? humans continually breeds and not a single of them shows the un evolved one not also in the history.. i dont know this things so can you educate me about my questions?
cuteakoeh 3 years ago
All animals are fully formed, there is no such thing as "unevolved"
Ever seen anyone born with an extra finger? Are they unevolved people? No, thye are fully formed with a mutation... that is how evoltion works.
nethius 3 years ago
what sparked the beginning of evolution?
queiraw 3 years ago
queiraw
One hypothesis would be less complex, non-living 'cells', similar to today's viruses( RNA retroviruses). Just one hypothesis of many that are being tested(> 50 yrs). Science is getting close to an answer. Until then, we can comfortably say we are not sure yet. That's it.
saxmanchiro 3 years ago
abiogenesis
nethius 3 years ago
nothing + nothing= nothing
queiraw 3 years ago
your point?
when does ToE mention anything came from nothing?
nethius 3 years ago
how come humans are not evolving into something that can drink polluted water, breath polluted air, stand the uv rays coming from the sun because of the big ass hole in the ozone?.i thought evolution was for things to adapt to there enviroment? everything was in prefect order, now as the scientist say there wont be any life on earth in a couple hundred years because the enviroment is unbalanced. global warming etc........ there is place set for everything in the living kingdom.
queiraw 3 years ago
1st, evolution takes hundreds/thousands/millions of years
2nd that stuff does happen, Africans have genes set that they are less likely to get malaria.
3rd, evolution is decent with modification, so just cause it rains one day, it doesnt mean i will grow gills the next.
4th, perfect order? whoever tld you this was lying
5th, no life on earth in a couple hundred years? again whoever told you this was lying
6th, "place set for everything" only because those who didnt fit are dead
nethius 3 years ago
instead of comments, just shoot me a message, you'll be able to give me a long story of where energy came from. I'll be holding my breath for it.
neosin06 3 years ago
Evolution does not speak of the beginning of the universe, if you had any knowledge at all of the theory you would already know this
nethius 3 years ago
The very fact evolution tries to state there is no God in the making of life, well that very system must also be able to tell where it all came from and they do try. Don't try and tell me they don't lol. It's the reason why there is such a strong reason why evolution couldn't of taken place because everything else would have to of "just" happened as well. Clearly showing you can't have one without the other.
neosin06 3 years ago
The theory of evolution makes no such claim. Please show me a paper that states otherwise... and I have no idea what else you are rambling about. Please educate on ToE yourself before posting comments on it.
nethius 3 years ago
Here I'll end it for you.
Where did energy come from. Please in your reply try not to break the laws of science. Science says energy can not be created nor destroyed. So how is it here, where did it come from.
I believe the creator "lent" some of his energy to this universe, we see the after affects of that event now. I'm not breaking the law of science and it's far more simple than any system you come up with. However, whats the other law of science about going the path the simplest? hmm?
neosin06 3 years ago
Again, the yfact that your think evoltuon speaks of energy, you show your ignorance towards it, please learn the theory first
and fossils show that there IS change
want to see something evolving right before your eyes, look up HIV
nethius 3 years ago
However, trying to say life came from dead matter just doesn't happen anymore than the Boeing 747 coming from nothing. But you would have me believe it could. Any idea how much more complex the human body is over the 747?
but its what your telling people happened You have no hard science to back it up. I'm sorry but your own story keeps changing. The evolution story keeps on changing every time something doesn't fit anymore. The only thing that evolves on this planet, is the story of evolution.
neosin06 3 years ago
Let's talk about how far advanced DNA is to anything we know. How we don't even understand the technology in which it can store massive amounts of data in such a small package. Let's talk about the job of DNA and the genes.
Personally i know why you guys believe the way you do. I came from the same schools. It's just not a logical thinking process. Life came from dead matter, however we don't see it, we can't repeat it, etc. All the laws of science say, it could not of happen.
neosin06 3 years ago
I have many videos on DNA/RNA for you to watch, please comment on those AFTER you watch them
nethius 3 years ago
...They only want the dead dog kicked just so they can same to themselves there is no God.
Let's at least get the facts straight, you don't want a God because that would mean you might have to follow his rules.
That being said, shows why people like yourself will try so hard to believe something so against good science and the laws of this earth and life.
Bring it on, i dare you to get into a good clean debate on DNA with me. I call you out right here.
neosin06 3 years ago
"Let's at least get the facts straight, you don't want a God because that would mean you might have to follow his rules."
Lets get the facts straight, it has NOTHING at all to do with what anyone wants, only what is the truth
We dont "try to believe" we look at the evidence and decide what is true
Hahahha, DNA, you dont even understand the basics of evolution, let alone DNA
nethius 3 years ago
Then let me ask you something, if it's all about truth and not about something you want.
Why are you so "against" God. Your song says it best. "now it's time for war", is how you look at it.
There is no way with science to prove evolution takes place anymore then science to prove there is a God, wrong tool for both items. Your system is a man made religion which you worship and must have blind faith in to believe. At least i know Jesus Christ was a real person on this planet.
neosin06 3 years ago
I am not so "against god", he just doesnt exist, whether i want him to or not
it's not my song either
nethius 3 years ago
"he just doesnt exist" - point me to the scientific proof of that when you have a second...your claim seems sure of it...
durasrocj 3 years ago
Here you go again..."We dont "try to believe" we look at the evidence and decide what is true"...Which evidence did you look and then decided to say "there is no God"? I admit there is no physical (in the scientific sense of it) proof for God's existence. It's indeed a matter of choice. We both face the same lackness of proof yet we decide to believe different things. If God's existence could be scientifically proven we wouldn't have much choice in believing in Him or not, would we?
durasrocj 3 years ago
And here's the main problem with evolution. It's so illogical it's not even funny anymore. You want me to believe that, plants had a start somewhere and by chance evolve into what we have now, and somehow the animals did the same thing. All by chance.
A eF5 hits a junk yard and you want me to believe a Boeing 747 and space shuttle was left in the wake.
You want me to believe order comes from chaos. I'm sorry, Evolution is not even a good theory anymore. It's a dead dog many want kicked.
neosin06 3 years ago
Decent with modification imposed by natural selection, that easy
Your arguments have been beat to death long ago
Hard to get through to someone who thinks planes are living being that can reproduce
Again, please see my Ken Miller videos, he talks about all this nonsense.
Please educate yourself before you look even more foolish
nethius 3 years ago
Decent with modification imposed by natural selection, that easy
You just tried to put to things together you know good and well did not happen. Natural selection, your kidding right? Really... That's the best you have? Hell i thought you had real science to back up mutation. LOL just more bs about how a normal system we know of, working for evolution when you know it does not!
neosin06 3 years ago
Natural selection does one thing. Keeps the genes strong. If you have a family of rats, the weak, slow and sick will get eatin' up by something while the strong genes continue on. This we can see. However we NEVER get mutation from it.
neosin06 3 years ago
How about let's thank God Bacteria stays bacteria because if we ever run out of bacteria we are all DEAD. How about you study how if the human body had no bacteria in it, you would DIE! At what point did the human body decide it needs some bacteria in it to make it work, if so what types? So was there at some point humans without bacterium? Or maybe just had really bad gas? Oh wait without gas your bowels wouldn't work, ouch. That was a tough 5 million years! Poor monkeys.
neosin06 3 years ago
What?!? Where did this topic come from? When did I say anything about humans and bacteria together?
Please, watch the lectures I have on evolution, I made them into playlists so it's easy, take a few hours and learn, please.
nethius 3 years ago
And you still seem to be under the impression there is an goal to evoltuion, as in a supreme being, this is not the case, things only change to adapt to their surroundings, this may happen a millions differnt ways. You cant jsut say this is going to evole into that... it does not work like that... do you understand this?
nethius 3 years ago
My point is simple. How did animals change into others, what food did they eat? Why did plants change into something to be food? How did the plants and animals "evolve" at the same time? Because your not just saying "animals" evolve, your saying animals and plants evolve, but how did one know about the other. When did the cow start eating grass? Why did it start to eat grass, and how did grass get here.
neosin06 3 years ago
Of course plants AND animals evolve, they are both living beings that can reproduce
again and again you show your lack of understand of even the most basic of basics of the theory, until you have an intelligent post, I am ignoring you from now on
nethius 3 years ago
show me one plant evolving right now. Where is one? We have fossils of plants, and then still have the VERY same plant on this earth, you guys date the rock millions of years old. So, why hasn't the plant changed? You see the biggest problem you have with things "changing" is the living fossils. We have proof that things are in fact not changing.
neosin06 3 years ago
At what point do you believe they smaller stopped evolving so big fish could eat them? Or once flight was found, why didn't all animals form some type of flight system? The bumble bee can fly, but humans can not? Why is that if we are the most advanced, also you say "millions of years" but only in the last 100 we have known how to build a machine to fly. LOL
John 3:16 - Look it up
neosin06 3 years ago
Your questions show your lack of understanding of the theory itself. There is no top level, no "most advandced" only those evoled enough to survive in their environment.
If it was necessary or an advantage for humans to fly, they either would have the ability to fly or die out.
But, humans have not evolved in a way to allow flight, so that really isn't even an option. Birds have hollow bones and feathers... if you think a human could jsut fly, I really can't help you.
nethius 3 years ago
No, my point about it, what drives the "evolution" to keep man stuck on the planet. I mean, why did we not develop "hollow" bones? Why would we not want to move around such as birds do? Would it not be easier to hunt? But then when you look upon the earth, humans are by the advanced.I just happen to think they where made to be under humans, for the use and pleasure of humans. Cows Dogs etcWhen was the doggies revolt for dog rights? Wait a min hasn't animals been on the planet longer than humans?
neosin06 3 years ago
Simple, the environment.
It was not an advantage for that to occur.
nethius 3 years ago
I accidently deleted your post, "but it did for the mocking bird? How's that? LOL come on, your in a cycle now... oh boy..."
Every creature has a different path, i thougth that was obvious.... not all creatures are in the exact same spot and affected by the same circumstances.
nethius 3 years ago
However, if everything is evolving and animals have had the lead time on the planet, why did humans advance so quickly and everything else so slow? Why has not the chicken learned to fly by now? Wouldn't you call it the weak link vs say a hawk? No these systems was made so everything could survive. Let's not forget, if you take out just one of these major systems, the whole thing doesn't work. I'm sorry people evolution just couldn't of happen. The world we live in, wouldn't work any other way.
neosin06 3 years ago
Bacteria "evolve" quicker then humans, your statement is false.
Why don't you research why a chicken cant fly and find out yourself? And if you want to know the truth, stay away from bible sites.
Maybe this quote from Darwin will help you understand, "It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change."
There is no end "goal".
nethius 3 years ago
What the hell is "bacteria" evolving into? Do you mean it "changes"? Just what are you trying to say here? Is bacteria changing into a worm? Or is bacteria staying bacteria?
neosin06 3 years ago
You still dont understand the basic concepts of the theory of evolution, I have spent years reading and watching lectures, I suggest you do the same if you are truely interested. Change (w/ decent) and Natural Selection are how evolution works... Yes the bacteria chagnes to adapt to it's environment, otherwise it would become insticnt
nethius 3 years ago
I've always been curios about how ToE explains the separation of sexes (male and female)? What could have been the cause of it? Cause it does not make a lot of sense to me to complicate the process of evolution? I don't see how this could ever be more beneficial to the progress of the evolutionary chain. If it was accidental how's that it wasn't corrected because I don't really see how at any time that "something" decided it's better for us to make it harder to reproduce.
durasrocj 3 years ago
Check my Ken Miller lectures, they talk about why only 2 sexes
nethius 3 years ago
From you, "No these systems was made so everything could survive."
Everything survive? Are you sugesting there are no extinct species?
AS for your claim of "if you take out just one of these major systems, the whole thing doesn't work." this is jsut false, please search youtube for "Ken Miller on irreducible complexity" you will see for yourself.
nethius 3 years ago
Sure we have extinct animals. Humans can not live on this planet without the plants, or animals. It all works in cycles. So how could one system be in place without the other. You not only try to say humans evolved, but that animals and plants did all at the same time and SPEED. But then some how... stopped right about the time you want to tell me it's taking place.
neosin06 3 years ago
not at the same time and speed, again, you lack the basic understanding of the theory
please learn it then come back
nethius 3 years ago
"but that animals and plants did all at the same time and SPEED."
Whoever told you this was lying
nethius 3 years ago
Okay. So how do you explain about the holes in it?
simiteen 4 years ago
Such as...?
nethius 4 years ago
Lack of transitional species fossils. Natural selection's inability to advance organisms to higher orders. I'm just a regular guy, so go easy on me.
simiteen 4 years ago
"Lack of transitional species fossils"
/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils has a partial list, there are lots more if you are willing to look for them. Google will help.
"Natural selection's inability to advance organisms to higher orders."
Can you rephrase this? I am not sure what you are refering to. NS has no goal, no end result...
nethius 4 years ago
Also try a YouTube search for "transitional fossils" lots of vids to watch
nethius 4 years ago
Sorry it took so long to reply. Had trouble w/youtube. Well, doesn't NS rely on mutations or just in general, mutations are required for species to evolve. And there are so few beneficial mutations that even w/the Old Earth timeline, it still isn't possible?
simiteen 3 years ago
What is an Australopithecus, Ardipithecus, Tiktaalik (my favorite), Archaeopteryx (cause birds are sexy), Ichthyostega, Gogonasus...
I can go on.
sacrosanct24 3 years ago
There is no lack of transitional fossils. You can start with Tiktaalik and go from there to any of the many that are listed on Wikipedia or in any encyclopedia. Natural selection is the process by which favorable heritable traits become more common in successive generations. I'm not sure what a "higher order" is, but the successive generations are superior to the preceding ones...
sacrosanct24 3 years ago
Evolultion may be a "theory" and thats why many people who beleive in Creation dont beleive in Evolution itself, but hold up, doesnt all planets orbit the sun? And the moon orbits the Earth? This is yet again a "Theory" but is placed in the bible?
Hmmm they contradict themselves alot huh?
WormX123 4 years ago
Tell a lie long enough loud enough and often enough and people will begin to believe it as truth....thanks for the lies mr darwin
Craighill9 4 years ago
"Tell a lie long enough loud enough and often enough and people will begin to believe it as truth"
You mean religion?
"thanks for the lies mr darwin"
Have any evidence to back up your claim...? I thought not.
nethius 4 years ago
Now thats not how science is done, and you probably know it, though you dare not admit it, since you probably are afraid of questioning your own beliefs. The beauty of science is that anyone with the competence is welcome to question it, and so has been done for many years, from a neutral perspective to judge it. The conclusion is, evolution is pretty much validated. You dont want to face it, so you keep saying that there is no evidence. During the time, evidence keep coming every now and then.
XeperIset 3 years ago
Name the exact animal that man evolved from. Tell me when it happened and show evidence of this. Also, show me a plant or animal that doesn't produce after its own kind. Also, the theory of evolution has spawned a metaphysical belief system that is based totally on faith (its a religion)its so extreme that if you ask for evidence of its validity you are ostrocized and ridiculed as if you are beyond imbecile. I suggest you do some real research rather than believing pseudo science.
Craighill9 3 years ago
The exact animal? You believe that evolution suggest that some animal just gave birth to a man? No scientists claim that. Evolution happens at small small rate over long time. I can give you a list of forerunners to man if that's what you want. No, it is not based on faith. It's simply the most reasonable explanation based on fossile findings and genetic research and much more. Sure you can ask for evidence. Ask any scientist for evidence. He/she will give it to you. I'm not qualified though.
XeperIset 3 years ago
I didn't think you could answer the question. this is why evolutionism is a religion and not science. Science would be like when you explain gravity or the laws of thermodynamics. They can be explain to a high degree of confirmation. Evolution on the otherhand is only speculation and faith, therefore evoluton sould be taught in the religion dept. not the science dept.
Craighill9 3 years ago
He did answer your question. The exact animal that evolved into man? Depends on when you start counting things as being man. The entire Homo genus can be counted as "man", so you would need the common ancestor to Erectus, Sapien, Neanderthal, ect.
The class of creature that did this was the Genus Australopithecus. This Genus most likely came from the Genus Ardipithecus. What exactly are you asking for?
sacrosanct24 3 years ago
The class of creature that did this was the Genus Australopithecus. This Genus most likely came from the Genus Ardipithecus. What exactly are you asking for?
Do you have absolute proof that Australopithecus was our ancestor? If so, What is this absolute proof?
Craighill9 3 years ago
There is nothing outside of math that has an absolute proof.
You are asking for something that can not, by definition, exist. I can not give you absolute proof that gravity exist.
sacrosanct24 3 years ago
There is nothing outside of math that has an absolute proof.
Gravity is pretty much proven, give some proof that is as reliable as the theory of gravity. You know? Scientific proof.
Craighill9 3 years ago
The sequence of the Human Genome as compared with the Chimpanzee genome, our fused #2 chromosone which is scientifically proven to be two great ape chomosones fused together, the morphological similarities between H. Sapien and H. Erectus, the mitocondrial tracers back to our common origin in Africa which spawned all the Homo genus, the presense of Neanderthal genetic material in our nuclear DNA - this is without me actually looking anything up.
sacrosanct24 3 years ago
If the human and chimpanzee genomes are 10% different, it rules out the possibility that humans and chimpanzees evolved from a common ancestor. If the difference between the two genomes is 10% then the total number of differences in the DNA sequence would be approximately 300 million nucleotide bases (10% of 3 billion nucleotides present in humans or chimpanzees), and when "indels" are included in the homology between humans and apes the percentage of difference jumps to more than 10%.
Craighill9 3 years ago
Nope.
Answer in Genesis butchered the whole concept of genetic biology.
Britten, Roy J. 2002. Divergence between samples of chimpanzee and human DNA sequences is 5% counting indels. Proceedings of the National Academy of Science USA 99: 13633-13635.
sacrosanct24 3 years ago
Britten is almost accurate, but genomic databases and the current literature indicates that the sequence homology between humans and chimpanzees may be less than 90%, as more genomic regions, such as heterochromatin (regions of condensed noncoding DNA) and unresolved alignment gaps are included in homology studies. The research is still being done, and as it is done more gaps in the theory are found. Never-the-less, a 95% difference would require far more than a 5 million year gap.
Craighill9 3 years ago
"Never-the-less, a 95% difference would require far more than a 5 million year gap."
Pardon, I meant to say even a 95% similarity would require far more that 5 million years to bridge the gap between humans and apes.
Craighill9 3 years ago
Pardon, I meant to say a 95% similarity would require far more than a 5 million year gap.
Look I know that you relish the idea that man came from apes and you will fight to the death to believe it, but it just isn't so. The theory is far too sloppy and can't be shown. Even "Haldane's Dilemma" shows that a 98.5% similarity would require far more than a 5 million year gap. The Human/Ape ancestry can't be shown.
Information for this post came from
Genomics at ICR
by Daniel Criswell, Ph.D
Craighill9 3 years ago
The conclusion is, evolution is pretty much validated. You dont want to face it, so you keep saying that there is no evidence.
I suppose you saying it makes it valid. All I'm asking for is evidence, but you offer "its true believe it" well I'm sorry, but that doesn't begin to come close. Show me the evidence.
Craighill9 3 years ago
God created evolution. LoL, god is laughing at everyone now.
Supersonic9120 4 years ago
If Evolution is actually true and Not a "Theory"...Then how do you explain the Cambrian Explosion and Such a huge gap in the fossil Record? Evolution is not abruptly changing in the way the cambrian fossils have...
Tharevjoet 4 years ago
ACtually the Cambrian Explosion is great evidence towards evolution
nethius 4 years ago
Then how would you explain the evidence; as some more juice for the validility of the Infallible Truth of the Genesis?
supersmash43 4 years ago
Supersmash43: The Infallible Truth of Genesis?! Have you ever actually read it? OR do you just listen to people who cherry pick it on Sundays?
mattb521 4 years ago
Like the Tower of Babel explains how we have different languages.
Right?
sacrosanct24 3 years ago
You have the full right to believe in a 2,000 year old book translated into over 30 languages, which after doing the math, some 'characters' turn out to be over 900 years old;
Me, I think i'll just with provable science.
eche05 4 years ago
Darwin in Origin of Species: "The number of intermediate varieties, which have formerly existed on earth, [must] be truly enormous. Why then is not every geological formation and every stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely graduated organic chain: and this, perhaps, is the most obvious and gravest objection which can be urged against my theory."
CDarwin2k7 4 years ago
You, in this, lie. Why? Because you leave out even mention of the next part, where he ANSWERS this.
Mbast1 4 years ago
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what's the difference between an atheist and a mirror? one speaks without reflecting, and one reflects without speaking.
Why did the atheist cross the road?
he didn't since atheism fails to account for the Laws of Logic:
the road = "A" and the other side "Non-A".
What do u call a hardened atheist with a half-brain?
gifted.
anthonymilessee 4 years ago
Wow you are an idiot.
Why nopt put forward some actual evidence to support your claims? Oh wait, there is none.
nethius 4 years ago
What ignorance! and not funny...
jesokingcryst 4 years ago
evolution is not the answer
damirrr3gang 4 years ago
To what exactly?
nethius 4 years ago
to life
damirrr3gang 4 years ago
To the diversity of life, it is. Do you have any evidence that says it is not? Or any evidence to support your claim?
nethius 4 years ago
open ur eyes is all what i can say
damirrr3gang 4 years ago
Hahahaha! Just as I thought!
My eyes are open, that is why I understand science. You blind yourself from science so you can stay in your fairy tale. Have fun with that.
nethius 4 years ago
u2 have fun
damirrr3gang 4 years ago
evolution is the answer to the question "why are there so many forms of life and how did complex life forms came to be"
evolution is not the answer "why is there live"
evolution does not attempt to answer "what should we do with our lives" or "how should we live our lives"
jesokingcryst 4 years ago
Great stuff, looking forward to more.
mindoversplatter 4 years ago
I love Wikipedia as much as the next person. But, as of now it is not acceptable as a scientific site. Hopefully soon it will be, as they are improving it to make it more legitimate.
katellery 4 years ago
please!watch these!''collapse of evolution theory from 1 to 13
yclaxy 4 years ago
mmmm, suprise supirise... comments disbaled for those vids... scared of debate?
If I get the time, I will debunk those vids.
nethius 4 years ago
wow you know the simpilest way to get someone that beleives in ID to shut up tell them that god is like a kid with a magnifing glass he makes us then he makes deseases just to watch us suffer. Wow what an all loving god we have. lol
IllegalAlien1 4 years ago
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In reality, paleontology and genetics are the two biggest sources of intellegent design. the fact that the fossil record is not revealing the transitional forms needed to support Darwins THEORY, and genetics are revealing the truth of irreducable complexity. neither on of these sciences a supporting Darwin, they are actually going to be his downfall
pastorjazz 4 years ago
I suggest you do some reading
talkorigins-org/faqs/faq-transitional-html
-=.
nethius 4 years ago
The best method to debunk the DI and their ID is not by attacking DI/ID, but by teaching evolution.
Toward the end of teaching evolution, your short video below does an excellent job!
Kudos!
bpabbott1st 4 years ago
You are so right in what you said! Thanks for the support. I'm just getting started with all this, hopefully I'll have some more detailed and better put together vids soon.
nethius 4 years ago
But...but, smallpox proves God has a sense of humor! I mean the banana proves...Damn. :)
Edella 4 years ago 7
nice!!!
eddygoombah 4 years ago
eddygoombah rules!
takotheoktopus 4 years ago