Isshin is indeed older but there was never a historical relationship.
In the late 1800's one of the headmasters of Shinto Muso-ryu, Shirashi Hanjiro, recieved a full license in Isshin-ryu. As far as we know this was the first time any headmaster of SMR recieved such a license in Isshin-ryu. Shiraishi taught Isshin-ryu alongside SMR-jodo in his dojo in Fukuoka to his students, including Shimizu Takaji and Otofuji Ichizo.
However, it should be noted that SMR-Jodo and Isshin still are two seperate traditions. Isshin-ryu wasnt incorporated into SMR but simply associated with it. We call Isshin-ryu, ikkaku ryu, ittatsu ryu, Uchida Ryu "Fuzoku Ryuha" or "assimilated arts" and they are all seperate arts that has "tagged along" SMR-ryu during the years. Today of course, as far as I know, the various group-masters of SMR do not teach those arts seperately like Shirashi did with Isshin-ryu.
And for more historical trivia: Unlike Isshin-ryu, Ittatsu-ryu, Ikkaku-ryu and Uchida-ryu was actually created by two senior members of SMR. The first two ryu was created sometime in the late 1600's early 1700's, and Uchida-ryu in the late 1800's. Again these traditions were taught alongside SMR rather than being a part of SMR.
So what exactly is the relationship between Isshin-Ryu and Shinto Muso-Ryu?
if Isshin is older, does that mean it got incorporated later on?
AshokaAnandaeSaha 6 months ago
@AshokaAnandaeSaha
Isshin is indeed older but there was never a historical relationship.
In the late 1800's one of the headmasters of Shinto Muso-ryu, Shirashi Hanjiro, recieved a full license in Isshin-ryu. As far as we know this was the first time any headmaster of SMR recieved such a license in Isshin-ryu. Shiraishi taught Isshin-ryu alongside SMR-jodo in his dojo in Fukuoka to his students, including Shimizu Takaji and Otofuji Ichizo.
FredDude27 6 months ago
@AshokaAnandaeSaha
However, it should be noted that SMR-Jodo and Isshin still are two seperate traditions. Isshin-ryu wasnt incorporated into SMR but simply associated with it. We call Isshin-ryu, ikkaku ryu, ittatsu ryu, Uchida Ryu "Fuzoku Ryuha" or "assimilated arts" and they are all seperate arts that has "tagged along" SMR-ryu during the years. Today of course, as far as I know, the various group-masters of SMR do not teach those arts seperately like Shirashi did with Isshin-ryu.
FredDude27 6 months ago
@AshokaAnandaeSaha
And for more historical trivia: Unlike Isshin-ryu, Ittatsu-ryu, Ikkaku-ryu and Uchida-ryu was actually created by two senior members of SMR. The first two ryu was created sometime in the late 1600's early 1700's, and Uchida-ryu in the late 1800's. Again these traditions were taught alongside SMR rather than being a part of SMR.
Hope that helps.
FredDude27 6 months ago
and you sir do not have a face now..
AerialDreamz 1 year ago 5
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zensarcasm 1 year ago 2
its kusarigama
BobMarleyfan200 1 year ago 2
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