Peopel from the left will be the slaves of the nation very soon.. when we fight the MultiNationalist we will ahve to fight the leftist.. dont let one live to breed again.
G.Gordon paid any debt to society he owed. Served his sentence with honor. He was then accorded his freedom and citizenship by a democrat, no less.G.Gordon is a true Patriot and Ayers is a mouth-breathing communist hell-bent on subverting our Constitution.Ayers is a neo-Rasputin and is excellent at hiding his love for death from his mindless sheep. His front is a docile nature nature, a tactic.Any issue that anyone wants to spar on, you have my email. Bring it.I love to spank the left.
ez...Liddy is a true patriot for what? Could you also explain how a man who hated his government enough to suggest they shoot for agents' heads if they come to your door is less dangerous than a man who has been a peacefull civilian for 40 years?
Ever heard of Ruby Ridge, prolly not. Some of us don't wear the jack-boot on our neck all that well.
Btw, the weather underground is on record advocating the extermination of 25 million recalcitrant capitalists. That's some 'peaceful civilian.' You're well fooled by the gentle voice of the siren song of the O-topian left. Common mistake by Lib-turd 'useful idiots.' Having sport with your lunacy is quite entertaining albeit futile.
It is still up in the air, but judging from Obama's actions so far he seems to be more pragmatic, than he seems to be an ideologue, which is exactly what American's hated about Bush.
I believe you said Liddy didn't bomb the Brookings Institute...didn't you propo? Is the planning and desire to bomb political enemies, even though he didn't get authorization to do through with it, not terrorist activity?
So if I lay in my bed at night thinking of ways the USA government can snuff out Osama Bin Laden that makes me a terrorist? When I walk into a bank, look around and think perhaps a bank robber can accomplish the job by doing so and so, does that make me a bank robber?
Propaganda, that's a silly comparison. Going to a bank and mentally "sizing up the place" is a lot different than setting up plans, buying masks and guns, finding out the schedule of the armored cars. The first is thinking. The second is actual plotting. The latter is illegal. Liddy plotted to commit crimes. Don't choose to be so obviously obvlivious. It's so transparent.
No fool, "plotting" is not thinking. No one can enforce a certain way of thinking. Plotting is actually DOING. Putting forth a plan with the intent of carrying out the act. If you choose to play dumb that's one thing. I guess it makes sense. There could be no other way for you to be so blatantly biased and hypocritical.
And if Liddy was observed spitting in the street, he should have been cited appropriately. Sadly, o fool of silly diversion, we're not talking about spitting in the streets when it comes to Liddy.
Gordon Liddy figuratively 'spit' in the face of Judge John Sirica upon which, Liddy was given another 1.5 years in prison for contempt. My friend Cheetah, there is no other man that dares call himself an American that is tougher and more defiant and willing to take the entire establishment head on than G. Gordon Liddy! Liddy was no roll-over punk and got that extra 1.5 years because he wouldn't answer a damn question before the Sentate panel. Carter, Jimmy Carter got him out of prison. Why?
cheetah...what's really curious is they call Liddy a patriot. I didn't think putting your country second, breaking laws by burglarizing political opponents and telling how to shoot US government agents is patriotic but what do I know?
Gordon Liddy orcestrated a burglary. Ayers orchestrated murder.
There is a difference. Loss of property vs. loss of life.
Liddy doesn't hide behind Watergate. Ayers is scarce to give a blurb about his days as a terrorist behind a group of douche bags that declared open war upon the United States of America: My Country and the Land of My Birth.
Are you just not a fan of Liddy or are you a fan of open terrorism against our land? I would like to know.
swamp...you forget Liddy's instructions where to shoot at US Govenrment agents...wouldn't you think head shots would kill? Liddy perverted values included plots to kidnap those who were deemed enemies of the administration, breaking US law in the watergate episode and openly instructing how to shoot at those who are obeying your "country and land of your birth". I don't admire those who piss on our country....Ayers or Liddy. There are ways you do things in America..violence is not one of them.
mccain attended partys at liddys home... received alot of money from him as well. If you are in a high ranking govt position and you break the law, thinking you are above it, and do things that would hurt your country, that in itself is an act of terrorism... Therefore he is a terrorist to his own country.
It's a true shame that you would think that America's choice this election comes down being either a G Liddy's America or a Bill Ayer's America. It really emphasizes how hollow the guilt by association argument is. The truth is that neither of these candidates are as radical as the people they're introduced to because of party politics.
You're a complete idiot. Breaking into an office is burglary, not terrorism. Blowing stuff up to make a political point is terrorism. Get your head examined.
You're answer is a red herring. Serving on a board with a bunch of people, one of whom was an anti-war radical when he was a young dumb hippy kid, is not relevant to the fact that they both served on the same board. If it was an anti-war coalition, maybe you'd have a point. The only relevancy here is that they both have had acquaintances with a criminal. One has attested to not condoning past actions... one has not.
You bring up excellent points. Unfortunately, the creator of this vid has little interest in good points that sufficiently refute his pro-conservative, pro-McCain bias. I pointed out to him the extreme hypocrisy in him blasting Obama's associations, yet choosing to ignore McCain's. I also pointed out that Liddy has done waaaay more than this video would hint at. Instead of changing his tune or amending his comment, he just ended that portion of the discussion. That's how Republicans role, sadly.
cheetah & bahdageet.....curious how they dismiss Liddy's extremism. They've also dismissed Bush's lack of honesty with his fellow Americans, not giving the entire intel on Iraq prior to invasion. They dismissed the outing of a spy...even though the head of the agency backs up Plame's assertion of her status. They join in with Bush calling Osama bin Laden insignificant and that the war on terror centers in Iraq. Obama is what they fear most...a uniter with brains.
The Repubs rely on that bit of America that won't or can't take the time to fact check or think for themselves. That's why they're so quick with the cute one-liners. They love to say words like "American" and "patriotic" and "joe six pack" But once you actually begin to ask them specifics about what they mean they either fumble for words (a la Palin w/couric) or they just sit silently stupid (a la McCain with Letterman.) I'm not suprised that Propaganda is quiet. He can't refute so he goes mute.
Tell a lie enough, and it becomes imprinted upon the mind of the weak. You would have been perfect for MK Ultra. Extremity in defense of Liberty, is no vice. Republicans only shortcomings are that they are not nearly as effective at breaking laws as the dhimm party is. Open your mind, Quade. Glad to see you believe all your fed. I am your shiny red pill.
ez....tell a lie enough.....you're describing perfectly the republican party since the mid 1990's to today. Look long at election day numbers pal....that's what America feels about your "honesty". Only an idiot could only come up with such crap as saying Republicans only shortcomings is that they are not effective breaking laws. Take that shiny red pill ez....but remember it's to be taken rectally.
It sure is funny how all of a sudden the electoral means so much to the left. It's called intellectual honesty you alinskyite dolt. 52 to 40 does not a landslide make. That myth continues to be perped. Your own subversion is complete and yours is a lost cause.
ezbis....you snooze...you lose. I'm really sorry things didn't work our for you. Bad economy, bad war on terror, dumb descision to invade Iraq....man you guys just can't get a break can you?
So just because they arrested him before he could carry out premeditated plans to assassinate journalist Jack Anserson, Firebomb Brookings Institute, and kidnap anti-war protesters, makes him better than Ayers?
Gordon is unrepentant. He idolized Hitler. He advised Waco idiots to take headshots on ATF agents (on his radio show). He shoots at Hillary images for target practice. Yeah.. real stand up guy. He hosted a fundraiser for McCain in 98. At least Obama said what Ayers did was wrong.
Is that relevant? Ayers became a much better citizen after he turned himself in. Teaching, education boards, Citizen of the year award, etc. What did Liddy do? He became a talk radio guy that spews filth. McCain never renounced anything he did. Liddy held a fundraiser for McCain in'98, and a photo op as recent as 2007. McCain has a secessionist (Todd Palin) speak on the stump. Talk about un-American. Ayers is a better citizen than Liddy and Todd Palin combined.
So you avoid the question by labeling it not to be relevant. Since we are now in the business of evaluating ones questions and / or comments, may I do the same? Okay, good answer because the rest of your above comment is not relevant but just another bunch of rhetoric. Do you write Castro's eight hour speeches for him?
Your explanation of G. Gordon Liddy is extremely lacking, your synapses of The Annenberg foundation is absolutely false, your use of the term "Nikita" is misleading slander and you have no grasp of the importance of protesters/anti government activists during the Vietnam conflict. You just perpetrated a main stream media "drive by" which you say you are against. Why should anyone take you seriously?
Gentlemen, you all seem to believe the Constitution Of The United States Of America that I hold in my hand today consists only of amendment 2. The scariest thing to me is your turning away from the rest of it as Liddy did. This America refuses to disrespect my fellow Americans as you do....we are all Americans...not one of us better than the other.
wittumy...U were kinda vague there. "your turning away from the rest of it as Liddy did"? "we are all Americans...not one of us better than the other"?
From what I could make of your reply, here's my reply:
Other Amendments wont mean crap if we cant keep our guns to prevent govt tyranny that might throw out or badly erode the Constitution.
And agree with me or not...those of us who understand history/the intent of the Constitution/and the like ARE BETTER AMERICANS THAN OTHERS.
Thanks clhoyt for confirming what I've been talking about. You've annointed yourselves better than other Americans and the Constitution of the United States contradicts you. You've had your 8 years and you've failed miserably...you even sat silent while this president chose which laws he believed in.
Where did i say i was a Repub? I'm not. I'm registered Dem.
And I dislike alot of what Bush did. So saying "you've had your 8 years" is bullshit. I thought u might be different than some of the other anti-Bush people I've tried to debate online. But u r no different. LoL
btw, Obama's gonna be worse...watch & see! He'll make Bush look like a piker when it comes to violating freedoms & screwin up the nation. But dont u dare complain about him if u r supporting him just for "Change's Sake".
Clhoyt....I never said you were a republican. Dod you vote for kerry or Bush? I don't know why you are a registered democrat when you hate the party system but that's your choice. I'm voting Obama because I believe he has the intelligence, temperment and ability to inspire. I've liked McCain until the past four years when he realized he was going nowhere without becoming a party man.
wittumy. well, u said "you've had your 8 years" like I'm a total Bush guy/Repub. I DID vote for Bush, but only bcuz he was the lesser of 2 evils. Gore/Kerry r jokes. (Guns & Defense = main reasons.)
But in comparison, I'd vote for Kerry OR Gore over Obama.
I registered Dem long ago bcuz my fam was.
Obama WILL inspire some, for sure...mostly our enemies - Russia, China, N. Korea, Islamic terrorists, Iran, etc. - to attack/push us around!
clhoyt.....how do you defend Liddys' instructions to shoot at ATF agents heads because they wore body armor?
Also...it pains me to think that you'd savor the moment if Obama screwed up the country. No I'm not one bit happy that Bush was the worst president of my lifetime....being right on that one is a pretty sad feeling. Too bad you put your country second to "being right".
So you were not alive when Carter was president? I agree with clhot1003, Liddy is a patriot and would much rather have him watch my back than that Obama mob.
Yeah I was alive propo that's why I voted for Reagan. Bush however has re-set the bar far lower. Explain support for a man who said August 26, 1994 - Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms,resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests." .. "They've got a big target on there, ATF. Don't shoot at that, because they've got a vest on underneath that. Head shots, head shots... Kill the sons of bitches
You wonder from Carter to Bush to Liddy. No one could have set the bar lower than Carter. The whole Middle East problem is due to him disposing the Shah. He gave back the Panama Canal and pardoned the draft dodgers. Liddy was addressing law-bidding citizens. If any part of the feds come for our guns, they are in violation of the Constitution and deserve the faith that awaits them.
Actually, now that u refreshed my memory on what he said (and I think it was very much like your quote of him, if not exactly)...
...If BATF agents (or ANY person or group!) come to MY house to take MY guns, I might just agree with Liddy & act accordingly.
Do u really think our Founding Fathers would let ANY govt or people take THEIR guns????? If u do, then u dont know ANYTHING about what this country was founded on, our history, nor why our Founders penned the Amendments they wrote! Jeez.
my most recent comment was for WITTUMY when he quoted Liddy and said: "Explain support for a man who said August 26, 1994 - 'Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms,resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests.'"
Propo, Liddy twice gave suggestions on how to kill government agents. In America, the courts decide whether or not the agents were right or wrong,not Liddy or those such as David Koresh.
Liddy was convicted in the Watergate break-in, conspiracy in the Daniel Ellsberg case and liable for back taxes on Watergate slush fund money. He also planned but did not go through with plans to kidnap anti-war activists and the murder of Jack Anderson. He plotted to bomb the Brookings Institution.
Are you sure you live in Texas? If a government agent arrives at my door for my gun for no reason, then perhaps Libbys advice should be taken, however I am too much of a coward to do so. Yep, Liddy is a patriot. I would rather have an America filled with patriots like Liddy than terrorist like Ayers.
Yes I live in Texas. If a government agent arrives at my door looking for my gun I'd ask them what reason they had to do so, not open fire. Whether or not they were correct to do so is up to the courts to decide. It's called obeying the law.
No reply to Liddy's history of illegal, radical behavior?
Then you will survive just fine in an Obama nation if Americans make that mistake this Election Day. Liddy has no such history as you claim, hence unable to address that which does not exist.
wittumy...Re: Liddy's ATF remark. I dont approve. But my sentiment stands: Liddy's a patriot whom I'd trust more than most. U know THE REAL REASON why our founders wrote the 2nd Amndmnt, dont u? So WE THE PEOPLE could 'cleanse' our own govt if it ever got tyrannical/too powerful. I too think the Reno/Clinton law enforcement WAS at times thuggish (Ruby Ridge, esp.). Liddy was just more extreme in his patriot-based remedy.
I never said 'savor'. And u REALLY DO need to go look up 'consolation'!
clhoyt1003: People like "wittunmy" just see politics and refuse to see the truth. They walk among us, drive on our roads with us, shop with us, and scariest of all, they vote!
"People like "wittunmy" just see politics & refuse to see the truth....& scariest of all, they vote!"
INDEED, Buster! I dont think there's ever been a time in US history in which there were so many people who were so ignorant of US & world history, the principles on which the US was founded, & were so adamant they were right when they r so WRONG! Add in the ppl who KNOWINGLY want to re-make the US into what they think it should be, Constitution be damned?!?
Propo...yeah I walk among you....drive on "your" roads...and shop with you. Perhaps only you self annointed ones should be allowed to vote, drive, walk and shop. And you guys wonder why we're divided?
"...Perhaps only you self annointed ones should be allowed to vote, drive, walk & shop. And you guys wonder why we're divided?"
I cant help myself...I gotta comment on this one, too.
Nothing to do with "self-annointed". Those on the opposite side from me & Buster have moved farther left-of-the-political-center in recent history. I dont know how Buster feels, but I'm just tryin to keep America from shifting so far to the left that it does irreparable damage to the fabric of the nation.
clhoyt1003: I am in agreement with you. At the same time I think we both would like to stop this nation from going in any direction to an extreme. However it just so happens currently it is moving to the far left.
wittumy: I never said you should not be permitted to vote, I just said it was scary. As scary as that is, I would be the first to fight for your right to vote.
I do not wonder why this nation is divided, I know why. It is due to the out of control mental illness of liberalism (I am not saying you suffer from that illness).
Propo...16 years of conservatives calling their fellow Americans ant-American, pro-terrorists, communists, anti-troops (even though many of our young are overseas fighting)and mentally ill is not the actions of those who wish to unite.
"I do not wonder why this nation is divided, I know why. It is due to the out of control mental illness of liberalism (I am not saying you suffer from that illness)."
INDEED, Buster! Especially with the FAR-left. Which Obama is, for sure.
However, this long-term prosperity has not spread evenly. The upper-income tier (households with annual incomes above 150% of the median) has outperformed the middle tier (households with annual incomes between 75% and150% of the median) -- not just in income gains, but also in wealth accumulation. From 1983 to 2004, the median net worth of upper-income families more than doubled, while the median net worth of middle-income families grew by just 29%.
USAgym....according to the Pew Research Center:As of 2006 (the last year for which trend data are available), real median annual household income had not yet returned to its 1999 peak, making this decade one of the longest downturns ever for this widely-accepted measure of the middle-class standard of living. Over a longer time period, the picture is much brighter; since 1970, median household income has risen by 41%. Cont....
It's unbelievable that common sense must be explained to so many Americans. Nixon's only mistake was the way he handled WATERGATE. Obama is the truly the dumbest, most unqualified, most unscrutinized Presidential candidate we ever had but I know Obama is smart. He is just a radical left wing liar. It's is not Obama's fault though his parents were wackos who abandoned him he has issues. Did I mention his mother's name was Stanley.
usagyn... what a ridiculous statement! That the middle class is being swept into the upper class is delusional....try supporting that statement please. Also, please cut the "prescious Soviet Union" crap....it too shows great ignorance on your part.
wittumy: Obama did say we must re-distribute the wealth, which was what Soviet Communism clamed to be about. Also consider me delusional, as I too see many of the middle class upwardly mobile.
The spoke of promoting a non class system of government but in reality did not practice a non-class system of government. No communist has ever done so. It was also not up to a vote in the Soviet Union, yet the adopted it. What is up for a vote in the USA is Obama who said we should re-distribute the wealth, which is socialism which is a polite way of saying communist or Marxist. Simple, it is un-American.
Propo....I'm going to ask you once again....do you believe that Obama and non conservatives idolize the old Soviet Union and have active plans to duplicate it here?
No, no, they do not idolize the old Evil Empire (the Soviet Union). They are angry at the Soviets for not implementing Marxism properly. The left in this nation feel they can implement Marxism and make it work as only they know how to do it right. Little do they know any implementation of Marxism by anyone will never work.
And what's this with "I'm going to ask you once again?" Sounds like a demand pardner.
No big guy it wasn't a demand...just wanted to give you a chance to think about your answer because the first one was so disappointing. I've been a liberal all my life, know hundreds more and I can assure you that I've never heard a pro Marxism, socialism or communism comment from any. I've also never heard any of those words from any liberal politician. Paint us as you like..it's a free country propo...but those opinons to those of us who love our country just as much as you do bite deep.
Yeah I heard Obama say we need to re-distribute the wealth. I'm for the wealthy paying more. My religion even tells me that those more fortunate should take care of those less fortunate. Didn't you see where the wealth already was re-distributed over the past 8 years under the Bush administration?
You have a very ignorant take on political theory. "Socialism" is a code word used to sway sheep to think someone is a NAZI. They know the average citizen is not educated enough to understand.
On Hannity the other night, the panel essentially agreed that Obama's agenda is centrist, as are the people expected to be in his cabinet. Of course Hannity himself couldn't comment one way or the other. Also, on Real Time last Friday, Arthur Laffer (the inventor of supply-side economics) indicated the same thing while basically endorsing Obama. Combine that with Greenspan's admission that conservative fiscal policy is wrong and I think you're just bitter that modern Republicanism is dead.
Me bitter? I am one very happy and delighted person. I see the results of this election no matter who wins, as a plus for the rejuvenation of conservatives, the likes of which this nation has not seen in years. To me the outcome of this election if Obama, will jump start conservatism, if McCain, it allows us a few years for a rebuilding for the 2012 comeback. Life is good and I thank God being alive in this very exciting time for our nation.
usagym...you are the ones who changed the wealth distribution in this country. You've robbed the middle class of this country. Record corporate profits have not trickled down. The rich get richer and the American middle class is shrinking. Also the Soviet Union did no such thing.
Little Buster is a clear example of the morons backing McCain. How he managed to minimize McCain's association with ex-con G. Gordan Liddy is stunning. Liddy made contributions to the man's campaign. McCain praises him as being a good American. Get your facts straight GUIDO!
I love it when liberals are ill-equipped to discuss fact so they resort to name calling. Such behavior is further proof that liberalism is a mental disorder. Thanks for that validation.
Though I needn't call him names, Buster is symptomatic of the one-sided, unfair and hypocritical nature of the Republicans. He attempted to paint McCain's relationship as some sort of happenstance occurrence. And then he attempted to downplay Liddy's crimes as if he simply stole a Snickers. At this point I don't know if he truly didn't know the truth. Or if he just wanted to stack the deck against Obama. Either way, it was a dumb, but typical, move.
I understand what your saying Cheetah, and you're right, it is fair game. I don't think many liberals are going to care about the ayers connection, just like most conservatives aren't going to worry about liddy connection. The candidates need to focus on real issues, not smear.
Years ago, I was for Mccain, but he has since reversed himself so much and flipfloped more than John Kerry at an IHOP convention, that who the hell knows what he actually stands for these days.
You know what, yougotownedbyjake, that's exactly where I'm at. In the end these associations don't really matter. I mean I KNOW McCain doesn't share the extremist or horrible views of Liddy. I know he'd never advocate shooting one in the head or condone Liddy's illegal activity. My point, and I know you get it, is that it is silly and a bit desperate-looking to make "guilt by association" the crux of your attacks. Especially when your closet ain't so free of "skeletal" terroist!
I see alot of disinformation here. The Liddy never advised the killing of law abiding citizens. All the times he is quoted as saying to "shoot the ATF in the head" is when they do whats called a "dramatic entry" into your home, guns blazing, but have the wrong residence, which has happened. He was pointing out that its not your fault they have the wrong address and you should not lay down and die becuase they made a mistake. He said you should defend yourself, but aim for the head.
Your "reasoning" doesn't make any sense. If the ATF, for example, mistook my home for their target, they wouldn't come in shooting. Guns drawn perhaps. But not shooting. So what sense would it make for someone to advise me to shoot for the head? Liddy was speaking specifically about the Branch Davidians and how they could best handle the feds. Don't sugarcoat it or worse, attempt to spread more "disinformation." The dude was a terroist - PERIOD.
No, he wasn't speaking specifically of the Branch Dividians. I tried to link a source, but it would not let me post it. To make it easy on you, you can look up Gordon Liddy on Wikipedia for his quote under the section "Controversial Statements". People omit what they want to to try and spread lies. Nice Try. -PERIOD.
I've heard Liddy's explanation of what he's ACTUALLY talking about. And I can give him that. But instead of arguing about the target of his attack and exactly how right it was, why not move to the other crimes listed. I mean he wasn't arrested for those statements, so it is clear that he did do something wrong. And thusly, since associations have become THE issue, you don't think that his association with McCain is important and thusly, warrants public derision and questioning? Hypocrisy sucks!
Well, now if we are to be fair, you have to state the whole truth about this guy. Liddy did plan many other crimes that he did not carry out. He planned murder, kidnapping, and bombings. Let's also not forget that he was inspired by Nazis and has encouraged murder on his radio show. And if we are being fair, McCain did call Liddy and friend and he did say he was proud of him. They have been friendly recently. So basically, your assessment if this relationship is incomplete.
Liddy served time for his crimes, Ayers did not. Liddy is not advocating the overthrow of our government; Ayers did and does not regret it. Liddy did not blow up public buildings, Ayers did. I tell you what, look at the people who call Ayers friend, then look at those how call Liddy friend. Then tell me which group you would call friend. I would definitely call the Liddy group my friends.
Liddy was sentenced to 30 years and only served 5. So he did not serve his time. If you believe that Obama is a friend of Ayers, then his other friends would include education reformers, presidents of universities, mayors, and distinguished professors.
But Obama and Ayers were never friends. I don't think McCain is a thief or murderer though he's friends with someone who planned to kill people. And the same follows for the Obama-Ayers connection. You should do more research and make a new video.
Libby still served more time than Ayers. Those 5 years in prison was his time, or was it your time he served? Any professors serving with Ayers are not distinguished. Please do not try to elevate such debris. So you the all knowing (just like me) know for sure Ayers and Obama were not friends? It is what that same certainty employed by you which allows me to know the two were friends. My research has now been completed. Thanks.
Not a single person who knows Obama and/or Ayers has said that they had a close relationship. In fact, they have said that they don't believe that they were close. Also, Obama says that they were not close and do not exchange ideas. That is my evidence. What is yours? Please don't name some whack job from FOX news.
That is because the people who know Ayers and Obama are of the same ilk and want to see an Obama victory. Think! You do the thinking, I will do the stinking.
Once more, just like a right winger, you leave out pertinent info in order to convince people of your point. Liddy plotted to kill journalist and others willing to cooperate with the Watergate investigation. He plotted to firebomb the Brooking Institution. He plotted to kidnap "leftist guerillas" at the '72 RNC. And he gave Branch Davidians advice on how to best kill fed. officials.(shoot 'em in the head!) And...HE was unrepentant. Let's bring the truth here and then judge if you must.
So when we plot are we not committing a crime? If you are going to shoot off at the mouth and speak so vaingloriously about McCain's associations in relation, be smart and do your research. Your response is one of the most pathetic and tired attempts to explain away someone's ills that I've seen in a while. The point is, according to you, the guy is unrepentant in his "terroist" activities and yet McCain has said he's "proud." There's no amount of bullshit you can throw to clean that up.
Yeah your responses are pathetic.What gets me about you is that you're no different than FOX news.You only are interested in airing the "dirty laundry" about Obama. Yet when it comes to McCain's soiled linens, you either don't mention them or you attach all these extras to them or try to qualify them to make them not seem bad. That's not ethical. If you are gonna take the time to make a vid, I'm thinking it would make sense to be TOTALLY honest or at least appear that you've done some research.
If you told me that Obama was pals with Osama, well that would be something. But so he knows a vietnam war protester. Did he kill anyone? The govt had their chance to get him and screwed it up, so its on them.
As for G Liddy, his only fault was extreme loyalty; he was the only one who refused to "name names" and earned much respect for being willing to go to jail instead of turning on those he has sworn his loyalty to. That kind of personal honor is pretty much dead these days.
hold up this dumb video first off all what did barack obama do wrong by being on a board with him. A Reagan ambassador (Walter Aniberg)
was on the board.ask Barack Obama he started his political campaign in a ramada hotel.get your facts straight before you make a dumb video to show how much you are an ignorant repubilcan. a criminal terrorist same thing G.Gordon liddy is a friend of Mccain as he says in the talk show long time. dont play this stupid game you sound almost as dumb as sarah palin
Good work! The Ayers- Liddy comparison is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The media is so protective of Obama, their undoing will be in their arrogance. The biggest clue is they to respond and become defensive for everything. At least AP is an example of consumers rejecting the product of terrible bias. I hope through the power of consumerism we have some sort of revival in our press, where they have to do their job due to a higher standard of scrutiny, skepticism, and accountability.
William Timmons, a Washington Lobbyistand the head of John McCain's Presidential Transition Team, aided an influence effort on behalf of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to ease international sanctions against his regime. 90's.
In Case you forgot, Saddam Hussein WAS THE DICTATOR OF IRAQ and a member of the axis of evil. Now that's "a terrorist, right?"
Just remember a vote for John McCain is a vote for war in Iran and the continued
Before you swallow what buster presents as fact, do yourself the favor and research the weather underground aka the weathermen. There is a free documentary on video.google available which explains the whole group and interviews members. If you disagree with those folks, you are about as anti-american as you can get. They were straight up patriots who were tired of our government ignoring the people against the vietnam war. Google is your friend. The media is chalk full of misinformation.
You were not alive when they were causing havoc in the USA and blowing up buildings, I was, and I was there. I know what they were because I walked among them. Your history is through indoctrination, my history is though living it.
USA...you and those like you who claim to know what we think...are wrong again. The only ones I've heard use the messiah word is you. The Soviet Union? That's the kind of crap that has lost America's confididence in conservatives....all blather...but keep it up!
Propo you forgot to tell your viewers of the Dallas Morning News issue that included three concervative columnists on it's editorial pages. The DMN(Bellow Corp) is conservative owned and has backed Republican candidates for president every election of my life not to mention their support of republicans for Governor and the Senate. Every newspaper tries to have balance in its' daily reporting. If you want to know how they really feel you look at who they recommend for office. Check their record.
Propo...Your far left comment puzzles me. DMN editorial writers are Carl Leubsdorf, William McKenzie, Rod Dreher and Mark Davis...all concervatives. Keven Ann Willey the Editor is conservative. Syndicated writer Charles Krauthammer, a conservative is a guest sometimes. Occaisionally they'll have NY Times writers Thos. Friedman or Paul Krugman who are not conservative but they also include Davis Brooks who is. Ever see Molly Ivans when she was alive or Maureen Dowd in the DMN?
You're right propo. I'll be thinking of how I'll spend my winnings instead. If I'm wrong, after I'm resuscitated I'll buy you a beer on top of the bet.
Y'know I was actually gonna give you some credit because I thought you were gonna point out the hypocrisy in all of this. But then I listen further and I see that you are only interested in presenting a one-sided, ill-informed point of view. Just so YOU know, McCain's only association with him is not from radio. McCain accepted thousands of dollars from him. He attended a fundraiser in his honor at HIS house.So that, 2 me, would suggest more than a mere acquaintenceship. Just be honest dude.
Libby probably is an honorable American...today. But 30 years ago he wasn't. Just relatively recently he gave the advice on killing federal officials. Are you saying that he should be morally absolved of his crimes and thusly, his slate should be wiped clean?
You cannot hold one man to one standard of conduct and judge him. But turn around and ignore that standard when referring to the guy you like. It's cowardice. It' transparent. It's "unAmerican."
Um...really? That's how you respond? McCain has referred to Liddy as a "good friend" and so too has Liddy about McCain. What I am baffled by, sir, is that you appear to be a pretty logical, clear-thinking dude. And yet instead of living up to that, you employ one of the most obvious and sad displays of double standards and hypocrisy imagineable. If Ayers' connection is bad and indicative of faulty judgement. Then the same must be said and true of McCain's connection to Liddy.
USAG.... I'd prefer a man with vision than a man who lives in the past like McCain. If you wish to call him a messiah so be it....none of us liberals do.
Bank of New York Mellon Corp, Citigroup Inc., Wells Fargo & Co., JPMorgan Chase & Co., Bank of America Corp. and Morgan Stanley all extend their cordial invitation to Socialism facilitated by your host Republican president George W Bush. Socialism is a charity event benefitting struggling capitalists so please give more generously than you already have.
Don't read the liberal papers or watch the national socialist networks. I read blogs and online mags and I listen to talk radio to get my news. I even listen to the National Propaganda Radio to hear the liars and slanters prattle on about the lunatic fringe religious right (Christians who believe the Bible).
The news media in a lot of these cases, like the one mentioned in this video are well aware of what they're shoveling. They're tactic is to saturate the American public with bogus articles and create exactly what Propagander Buster said, a swaying of public opinion. These papers only hope your reading the morning edition before you've had your coffee.
What is shocking to me about this election is the amount of mud slinging going on. I must admit I have not followed other USA elections as closely as this for the simple reason that this is the most important election in my life time. So perhaps other elections were equally as bad. But it appears that McCain/Palin are no slouches when it comes to throwing the dirt around but they do not have the media backing Obama does.
I admire your passion and thankyou for the informative videos.
Hey, PropagandaBuster...runisunke ("that right you can't trust anything the news say anymore........Except Fox News right?") must be one of those people who seriously think all the other US media (Even NBC/MSNBC, CNN, and the NY Times and most major newspapers) are moderate or even CONSERVATIVE-leaning!
Wow... someone spiked the Kool-Aid and you guys are drunk on it. Almost every one of your subjects is an extension of a Fox news/Limbaugh talking point.
P.S... if you have to emphatically say "Fair and Balanced" or "No spin", that is exactly what you're not. It is classic Reaction Formation and Cognitive Dissonance combined. I'm sure you will have to look those terms up, but you may benefit from doing so.
Thank you for complimenting me by associating me with FOX news and Rush Limbaugh. I did not realize I was that good. See that is why I like YouTube, people are so kind.
All I'm saying is that your responses and opinions have very few independent thoughts. How are you not being "duped" if you just recycle the propaganda from the conservative media? How is it any different from a liberal adopting the propaganda from the liberal media?
So to you when like minded people express their thoughts with ideological similarity, that to you is being duped? When the Founding Fathers expressed an interest to create a new nation with similar eloquence based upon the same classical intellect, these men were also duped.
To me being duped are those victims of public school education of the last 30 years being indoctrinated in political correctness. It is all in the eyes of the beholder.
Amen brother!
RobGoth100 2 years ago
Peopel from the left will be the slaves of the nation very soon.. when we fight the MultiNationalist we will ahve to fight the leftist.. dont let one live to breed again.
anthilltigers 2 years ago
all leftist suck. ayers should be shot.
anthilltigers 2 years ago 2
Shut up and grow up.
badtown88 2 years ago
two words: ASS HOLE
grepodstfj 3 years ago
G.Gordon paid any debt to society he owed. Served his sentence with honor. He was then accorded his freedom and citizenship by a democrat, no less.G.Gordon is a true Patriot and Ayers is a mouth-breathing communist hell-bent on subverting our Constitution.Ayers is a neo-Rasputin and is excellent at hiding his love for death from his mindless sheep. His front is a docile nature nature, a tactic.Any issue that anyone wants to spar on, you have my email. Bring it.I love to spank the left.
tehDeets
ezbiskit 3 years ago
ez...Liddy is a true patriot for what? Could you also explain how a man who hated his government enough to suggest they shoot for agents' heads if they come to your door is less dangerous than a man who has been a peacefull civilian for 40 years?
wittumy 3 years ago
Ever heard of Ruby Ridge, prolly not. Some of us don't wear the jack-boot on our neck all that well.
Btw, the weather underground is on record advocating the extermination of 25 million recalcitrant capitalists. That's some 'peaceful civilian.' You're well fooled by the gentle voice of the siren song of the O-topian left. Common mistake by Lib-turd 'useful idiots.' Having sport with your lunacy is quite entertaining albeit futile.
Cloward-Piven strategy.
Happy ThanksGiving & Merry Christmas
ezbiskit 3 years ago
ezbis....yeah ruby ridge was the place where the idiot extremists once lived.
wittumy 3 years ago
It is still up in the air, but judging from Obama's actions so far he seems to be more pragmatic, than he seems to be an ideologue, which is exactly what American's hated about Bush.
tzimtzum1618 3 years ago
You forgot the part where Liddy made plans to bomb the Brookings Institute.
hugmaster4848 3 years ago
Did he bomb the Brookings Institute?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Propo....I believe planning terrorist acts or any illegal activity is also against the law.
wittumy 3 years ago
So is spitting in the street. What's the point?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
I believe you said Liddy didn't bomb the Brookings Institute...didn't you propo? Is the planning and desire to bomb political enemies, even though he didn't get authorization to do through with it, not terrorist activity?
wittumy 3 years ago
So if I lay in my bed at night thinking of ways the USA government can snuff out Osama Bin Laden that makes me a terrorist? When I walk into a bank, look around and think perhaps a bank robber can accomplish the job by doing so and so, does that make me a bank robber?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Propaganda, that's a silly comparison. Going to a bank and mentally "sizing up the place" is a lot different than setting up plans, buying masks and guns, finding out the schedule of the armored cars. The first is thinking. The second is actual plotting. The latter is illegal. Liddy plotted to commit crimes. Don't choose to be so obviously obvlivious. It's so transparent.
CHEETAH69 3 years ago
Plotting is thinking.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
No fool, "plotting" is not thinking. No one can enforce a certain way of thinking. Plotting is actually DOING. Putting forth a plan with the intent of carrying out the act. If you choose to play dumb that's one thing. I guess it makes sense. There could be no other way for you to be so blatantly biased and hypocritical.
CHEETAH69 3 years ago
It is against the law. He knows it.
CHEETAH69 3 years ago
So is spitting in the street.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
And if Liddy was observed spitting in the street, he should have been cited appropriately. Sadly, o fool of silly diversion, we're not talking about spitting in the streets when it comes to Liddy.
CHEETAH69 3 years ago
Gordon Liddy figuratively 'spit' in the face of Judge John Sirica upon which, Liddy was given another 1.5 years in prison for contempt. My friend Cheetah, there is no other man that dares call himself an American that is tougher and more defiant and willing to take the entire establishment head on than G. Gordon Liddy! Liddy was no roll-over punk and got that extra 1.5 years because he wouldn't answer a damn question before the Sentate panel. Carter, Jimmy Carter got him out of prison. Why?
swampdonkey5150 3 years ago
Swamp....Liddy is a disgracefull human being. His neo nazi beliefs and his followers have had their days...they're over.
wittumy 3 years ago
Cheetah...I know propo knows plotting to blow up a building is against the law.
wittumy 3 years ago
I know he knows. But he's typical of Republicans this year. They actually know better but just choose to play stupid when it's convenient.
CHEETAH69 3 years ago
cheetah...what's really curious is they call Liddy a patriot. I didn't think putting your country second, breaking laws by burglarizing political opponents and telling how to shoot US government agents is patriotic but what do I know?
wittumy 3 years ago
Gordon Liddy orcestrated a burglary. Ayers orchestrated murder.
There is a difference. Loss of property vs. loss of life.
Liddy doesn't hide behind Watergate. Ayers is scarce to give a blurb about his days as a terrorist behind a group of douche bags that declared open war upon the United States of America: My Country and the Land of My Birth.
Are you just not a fan of Liddy or are you a fan of open terrorism against our land? I would like to know.
swampdonkey5150 3 years ago
swamp...you forget Liddy's instructions where to shoot at US Govenrment agents...wouldn't you think head shots would kill? Liddy perverted values included plots to kidnap those who were deemed enemies of the administration, breaking US law in the watergate episode and openly instructing how to shoot at those who are obeying your "country and land of your birth". I don't admire those who piss on our country....Ayers or Liddy. There are ways you do things in America..violence is not one of them.
wittumy 3 years ago
mccain attended partys at liddys home... received alot of money from him as well. If you are in a high ranking govt position and you break the law, thinking you are above it, and do things that would hurt your country, that in itself is an act of terrorism... Therefore he is a terrorist to his own country.
IndependentFeatures 3 years ago 2
Given a choice: I would rather live in a Lddys America than a Bill Ayers America. The choice will be made this Tuesday.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
It's a true shame that you would think that America's choice this election comes down being either a G Liddy's America or a Bill Ayer's America. It really emphasizes how hollow the guilt by association argument is. The truth is that neither of these candidates are as radical as the people they're introduced to because of party politics.
tzimtzum1618 3 years ago
Only the next few years will prove which one of us is correct. The clock is ticking.....
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
You're a complete idiot. Breaking into an office is burglary, not terrorism. Blowing stuff up to make a political point is terrorism. Get your head examined.
Causa10bserver 3 years ago
You're answer is a red herring. Serving on a board with a bunch of people, one of whom was an anti-war radical when he was a young dumb hippy kid, is not relevant to the fact that they both served on the same board. If it was an anti-war coalition, maybe you'd have a point. The only relevancy here is that they both have had acquaintances with a criminal. One has attested to not condoning past actions... one has not.
Bahdageet 3 years ago
You bring up excellent points. Unfortunately, the creator of this vid has little interest in good points that sufficiently refute his pro-conservative, pro-McCain bias. I pointed out to him the extreme hypocrisy in him blasting Obama's associations, yet choosing to ignore McCain's. I also pointed out that Liddy has done waaaay more than this video would hint at. Instead of changing his tune or amending his comment, he just ended that portion of the discussion. That's how Republicans role, sadly.
CHEETAH69 3 years ago
cheetah & bahdageet.....curious how they dismiss Liddy's extremism. They've also dismissed Bush's lack of honesty with his fellow Americans, not giving the entire intel on Iraq prior to invasion. They dismissed the outing of a spy...even though the head of the agency backs up Plame's assertion of her status. They join in with Bush calling Osama bin Laden insignificant and that the war on terror centers in Iraq. Obama is what they fear most...a uniter with brains.
wittumy 3 years ago
The Repubs rely on that bit of America that won't or can't take the time to fact check or think for themselves. That's why they're so quick with the cute one-liners. They love to say words like "American" and "patriotic" and "joe six pack" But once you actually begin to ask them specifics about what they mean they either fumble for words (a la Palin w/couric) or they just sit silently stupid (a la McCain with Letterman.) I'm not suprised that Propaganda is quiet. He can't refute so he goes mute.
CHEETAH69 3 years ago
Tell a lie enough, and it becomes imprinted upon the mind of the weak. You would have been perfect for MK Ultra. Extremity in defense of Liberty, is no vice. Republicans only shortcomings are that they are not nearly as effective at breaking laws as the dhimm party is. Open your mind, Quade. Glad to see you believe all your fed. I am your shiny red pill.
tehDeets
ezbiskit 3 years ago
ez....tell a lie enough.....you're describing perfectly the republican party since the mid 1990's to today. Look long at election day numbers pal....that's what America feels about your "honesty". Only an idiot could only come up with such crap as saying Republicans only shortcomings is that they are not effective breaking laws. Take that shiny red pill ez....but remember it's to be taken rectally.
wittumy 3 years ago
It sure is funny how all of a sudden the electoral means so much to the left. It's called intellectual honesty you alinskyite dolt. 52 to 40 does not a landslide make. That myth continues to be perped. Your own subversion is complete and yours is a lost cause.
ezbiskit 3 years ago
52 million to 48 million were the returns. The Conservatives sat this one out to the tune of about 5 million.
ezbiskit 3 years ago
ezbis....you snooze...you lose. I'm really sorry things didn't work our for you. Bad economy, bad war on terror, dumb descision to invade Iraq....man you guys just can't get a break can you?
wittumy 3 years ago
So just because they arrested him before he could carry out premeditated plans to assassinate journalist Jack Anserson, Firebomb Brookings Institute, and kidnap anti-war protesters, makes him better than Ayers?
Gordon is unrepentant. He idolized Hitler. He advised Waco idiots to take headshots on ATF agents (on his radio show). He shoots at Hillary images for target practice. Yeah.. real stand up guy. He hosted a fundraiser for McCain in 98. At least Obama said what Ayers did was wrong.
Bahdageet 3 years ago
Did Obama say Ayers was wrong before or after Obama served on the same board with Ayers?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Is that relevant? Ayers became a much better citizen after he turned himself in. Teaching, education boards, Citizen of the year award, etc. What did Liddy do? He became a talk radio guy that spews filth. McCain never renounced anything he did. Liddy held a fundraiser for McCain in'98, and a photo op as recent as 2007. McCain has a secessionist (Todd Palin) speak on the stump. Talk about un-American. Ayers is a better citizen than Liddy and Todd Palin combined.
Bahdageet 3 years ago 2
So you avoid the question by labeling it not to be relevant. Since we are now in the business of evaluating ones questions and / or comments, may I do the same? Okay, good answer because the rest of your above comment is not relevant but just another bunch of rhetoric. Do you write Castro's eight hour speeches for him?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Your explanation of G. Gordon Liddy is extremely lacking, your synapses of The Annenberg foundation is absolutely false, your use of the term "Nikita" is misleading slander and you have no grasp of the importance of protesters/anti government activists during the Vietnam conflict. You just perpetrated a main stream media "drive by" which you say you are against. Why should anyone take you seriously?
gloconti 3 years ago
Gentlemen, you all seem to believe the Constitution Of The United States Of America that I hold in my hand today consists only of amendment 2. The scariest thing to me is your turning away from the rest of it as Liddy did. This America refuses to disrespect my fellow Americans as you do....we are all Americans...not one of us better than the other.
wittumy 3 years ago
wittumy...U were kinda vague there. "your turning away from the rest of it as Liddy did"? "we are all Americans...not one of us better than the other"?
From what I could make of your reply, here's my reply:
Other Amendments wont mean crap if we cant keep our guns to prevent govt tyranny that might throw out or badly erode the Constitution.
And agree with me or not...those of us who understand history/the intent of the Constitution/and the like ARE BETTER AMERICANS THAN OTHERS.
clhoyt1003 3 years ago
Thanks clhoyt for confirming what I've been talking about. You've annointed yourselves better than other Americans and the Constitution of the United States contradicts you. You've had your 8 years and you've failed miserably...you even sat silent while this president chose which laws he believed in.
wittumy 3 years ago
Where did i say i was a Repub? I'm not. I'm registered Dem.
And I dislike alot of what Bush did. So saying "you've had your 8 years" is bullshit. I thought u might be different than some of the other anti-Bush people I've tried to debate online. But u r no different. LoL
btw, Obama's gonna be worse...watch & see! He'll make Bush look like a piker when it comes to violating freedoms & screwin up the nation. But dont u dare complain about him if u r supporting him just for "Change's Sake".
clhoyt1003 3 years ago
DOH! did it again. My last reply was meant for WITTUMY. :-/
clhoyt1003 3 years ago
Clhoyt....I never said you were a republican. Dod you vote for kerry or Bush? I don't know why you are a registered democrat when you hate the party system but that's your choice. I'm voting Obama because I believe he has the intelligence, temperment and ability to inspire. I've liked McCain until the past four years when he realized he was going nowhere without becoming a party man.
wittumy 3 years ago
wittumy. well, u said "you've had your 8 years" like I'm a total Bush guy/Repub. I DID vote for Bush, but only bcuz he was the lesser of 2 evils. Gore/Kerry r jokes. (Guns & Defense = main reasons.)
But in comparison, I'd vote for Kerry OR Gore over Obama.
I registered Dem long ago bcuz my fam was.
Obama WILL inspire some, for sure...mostly our enemies - Russia, China, N. Korea, Islamic terrorists, Iran, etc. - to attack/push us around!
I just think McCain will do less harm.
clhoyt1003 3 years ago
I listened to the Liddy radio show for about 2 years a few yrs ago. I dont approve of his role in Watergate.
HOWEVER, he's a thousand-times-a-better-American-&-patriot than the far-left dumbasses & many -- if not all -- of the Obama supporters.
I'd much rather share a foxhole or have him tell me "I got your back" than trust the morons who r gonna likely elect Obama in 2 wks.
My only consolation is that I'll be able to say "I told ya so!" WHEN he blunders as prez & hurts this country.
clhoyt1003 3 years ago
clhoyt.....how do you defend Liddys' instructions to shoot at ATF agents heads because they wore body armor?
Also...it pains me to think that you'd savor the moment if Obama screwed up the country. No I'm not one bit happy that Bush was the worst president of my lifetime....being right on that one is a pretty sad feeling. Too bad you put your country second to "being right".
wittumy 3 years ago
So you were not alive when Carter was president? I agree with clhot1003, Liddy is a patriot and would much rather have him watch my back than that Obama mob.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Yeah I was alive propo that's why I voted for Reagan. Bush however has re-set the bar far lower. Explain support for a man who said August 26, 1994 - Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms,resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests." .. "They've got a big target on there, ATF. Don't shoot at that, because they've got a vest on underneath that. Head shots, head shots... Kill the sons of bitches
wittumy 3 years ago
You wonder from Carter to Bush to Liddy. No one could have set the bar lower than Carter. The whole Middle East problem is due to him disposing the Shah. He gave back the Panama Canal and pardoned the draft dodgers. Liddy was addressing law-bidding citizens. If any part of the feds come for our guns, they are in violation of the Constitution and deserve the faith that awaits them.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Propo...did you support the Branch Davidians opening fire on American government agents?
wittumy 3 years ago
Who fired the first shot?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
The Branch Davidians.
wittumy 3 years ago
Then they were wrong. They should have just slammed the door on their faces.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Actually, now that u refreshed my memory on what he said (and I think it was very much like your quote of him, if not exactly)...
...If BATF agents (or ANY person or group!) come to MY house to take MY guns, I might just agree with Liddy & act accordingly.
Do u really think our Founding Fathers would let ANY govt or people take THEIR guns????? If u do, then u dont know ANYTHING about what this country was founded on, our history, nor why our Founders penned the Amendments they wrote! Jeez.
clhoyt1003 3 years ago
my most recent comment was for WITTUMY when he quoted Liddy and said: "Explain support for a man who said August 26, 1994 - 'Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms,resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests.'"
Sorry for any confusion.
clhoyt1003 3 years ago
Propo, Liddy twice gave suggestions on how to kill government agents. In America, the courts decide whether or not the agents were right or wrong,not Liddy or those such as David Koresh.
Liddy was convicted in the Watergate break-in, conspiracy in the Daniel Ellsberg case and liable for back taxes on Watergate slush fund money. He also planned but did not go through with plans to kidnap anti-war activists and the murder of Jack Anderson. He plotted to bomb the Brookings Institution.
Patriot?
wittumy 3 years ago
Are you sure you live in Texas? If a government agent arrives at my door for my gun for no reason, then perhaps Libbys advice should be taken, however I am too much of a coward to do so. Yep, Liddy is a patriot. I would rather have an America filled with patriots like Liddy than terrorist like Ayers.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Yes I live in Texas. If a government agent arrives at my door looking for my gun I'd ask them what reason they had to do so, not open fire. Whether or not they were correct to do so is up to the courts to decide. It's called obeying the law.
No reply to Liddy's history of illegal, radical behavior?
wittumy 3 years ago
Then you will survive just fine in an Obama nation if Americans make that mistake this Election Day. Liddy has no such history as you claim, hence unable to address that which does not exist.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Propo, no such history as I claim? Try his book "Will" for one.
wittumy 3 years ago
Words and actions are not the same.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
wittumy...Re: Liddy's ATF remark. I dont approve. But my sentiment stands: Liddy's a patriot whom I'd trust more than most. U know THE REAL REASON why our founders wrote the 2nd Amndmnt, dont u? So WE THE PEOPLE could 'cleanse' our own govt if it ever got tyrannical/too powerful. I too think the Reno/Clinton law enforcement WAS at times thuggish (Ruby Ridge, esp.). Liddy was just more extreme in his patriot-based remedy.
I never said 'savor'. And u REALLY DO need to go look up 'consolation'!
clhoyt1003 3 years ago
clhoyt1003: People like "wittunmy" just see politics and refuse to see the truth. They walk among us, drive on our roads with us, shop with us, and scariest of all, they vote!
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
"People like "wittunmy" just see politics & refuse to see the truth....& scariest of all, they vote!"
INDEED, Buster! I dont think there's ever been a time in US history in which there were so many people who were so ignorant of US & world history, the principles on which the US was founded, & were so adamant they were right when they r so WRONG! Add in the ppl who KNOWINGLY want to re-make the US into what they think it should be, Constitution be damned?!?
We r very divided, & it's scary!
clhoyt1003 3 years ago
Propo...yeah I walk among you....drive on "your" roads...and shop with you. Perhaps only you self annointed ones should be allowed to vote, drive, walk and shop. And you guys wonder why we're divided?
wittumy 3 years ago
"...Perhaps only you self annointed ones should be allowed to vote, drive, walk & shop. And you guys wonder why we're divided?"
I cant help myself...I gotta comment on this one, too.
Nothing to do with "self-annointed". Those on the opposite side from me & Buster have moved farther left-of-the-political-center in recent history. I dont know how Buster feels, but I'm just tryin to keep America from shifting so far to the left that it does irreparable damage to the fabric of the nation.
clhoyt1003 3 years ago
clhoyt1003: I am in agreement with you. At the same time I think we both would like to stop this nation from going in any direction to an extreme. However it just so happens currently it is moving to the far left.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
wittumy: I never said you should not be permitted to vote, I just said it was scary. As scary as that is, I would be the first to fight for your right to vote.
I do not wonder why this nation is divided, I know why. It is due to the out of control mental illness of liberalism (I am not saying you suffer from that illness).
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Propo...16 years of conservatives calling their fellow Americans ant-American, pro-terrorists, communists, anti-troops (even though many of our young are overseas fighting)and mentally ill is not the actions of those who wish to unite.
wittumy 3 years ago
wittumy: face it that who the Democrats in Congress are. Thanks for describing those bums.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
"I do not wonder why this nation is divided, I know why. It is due to the out of control mental illness of liberalism (I am not saying you suffer from that illness)."
INDEED, Buster! Especially with the FAR-left. Which Obama is, for sure.
clhoyt1003 3 years ago
In effect, those in the middle have been making progress in absolute terms while falling behind in relative terms.
wittumy 3 years ago
However, this long-term prosperity has not spread evenly. The upper-income tier (households with annual incomes above 150% of the median) has outperformed the middle tier (households with annual incomes between 75% and150% of the median) -- not just in income gains, but also in wealth accumulation. From 1983 to 2004, the median net worth of upper-income families more than doubled, while the median net worth of middle-income families grew by just 29%.
wittumy 3 years ago
USAgym....according to the Pew Research Center:As of 2006 (the last year for which trend data are available), real median annual household income had not yet returned to its 1999 peak, making this decade one of the longest downturns ever for this widely-accepted measure of the middle-class standard of living. Over a longer time period, the picture is much brighter; since 1970, median household income has risen by 41%. Cont....
wittumy 3 years ago
usagym...just show me one instance where any liberal promotes a non class system. I'll be waiting.
wittumy 3 years ago
wittumy: as long as their class is on top.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
It's unbelievable that common sense must be explained to so many Americans. Nixon's only mistake was the way he handled WATERGATE. Obama is the truly the dumbest, most unqualified, most unscrutinized Presidential candidate we ever had but I know Obama is smart. He is just a radical left wing liar. It's is not Obama's fault though his parents were wackos who abandoned him he has issues. Did I mention his mother's name was Stanley.
LugerheadPAPD 3 years ago 2
I wish you would post videos. We need more people helping to spread the truth.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
usagyn... what a ridiculous statement! That the middle class is being swept into the upper class is delusional....try supporting that statement please. Also, please cut the "prescious Soviet Union" crap....it too shows great ignorance on your part.
wittumy 3 years ago
wittumy: Obama did say we must re-distribute the wealth, which was what Soviet Communism clamed to be about. Also consider me delusional, as I too see many of the middle class upwardly mobile.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
propo....the Soviet Union promoted a non class system of government. I've yet to see that up for a vote in America.
wittumy 3 years ago
The spoke of promoting a non class system of government but in reality did not practice a non-class system of government. No communist has ever done so. It was also not up to a vote in the Soviet Union, yet the adopted it. What is up for a vote in the USA is Obama who said we should re-distribute the wealth, which is socialism which is a polite way of saying communist or Marxist. Simple, it is un-American.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Propo...are you saying Obama intends to install a Soviet Union styled government?
wittumy 3 years ago
wittumy: yes
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Propo....I'm going to ask you once again....do you believe that Obama and non conservatives idolize the old Soviet Union and have active plans to duplicate it here?
wittumy 3 years ago
No, no, they do not idolize the old Evil Empire (the Soviet Union). They are angry at the Soviets for not implementing Marxism properly. The left in this nation feel they can implement Marxism and make it work as only they know how to do it right. Little do they know any implementation of Marxism by anyone will never work.
And what's this with "I'm going to ask you once again?" Sounds like a demand pardner.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
No big guy it wasn't a demand...just wanted to give you a chance to think about your answer because the first one was so disappointing. I've been a liberal all my life, know hundreds more and I can assure you that I've never heard a pro Marxism, socialism or communism comment from any. I've also never heard any of those words from any liberal politician. Paint us as you like..it's a free country propo...but those opinons to those of us who love our country just as much as you do bite deep.
wittumy 3 years ago
So you did not hear Obama say we need to re-distribute the wealth?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Yeah I heard Obama say we need to re-distribute the wealth. I'm for the wealthy paying more. My religion even tells me that those more fortunate should take care of those less fortunate. Didn't you see where the wealth already was re-distributed over the past 8 years under the Bush administration?
wittumy 3 years ago
You have a very ignorant take on political theory. "Socialism" is a code word used to sway sheep to think someone is a NAZI. They know the average citizen is not educated enough to understand.
Bahdageet 3 years ago
Now you're getting it pardner.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
On Hannity the other night, the panel essentially agreed that Obama's agenda is centrist, as are the people expected to be in his cabinet. Of course Hannity himself couldn't comment one way or the other. Also, on Real Time last Friday, Arthur Laffer (the inventor of supply-side economics) indicated the same thing while basically endorsing Obama. Combine that with Greenspan's admission that conservative fiscal policy is wrong and I think you're just bitter that modern Republicanism is dead.
Bahdageet 3 years ago
Me bitter? I am one very happy and delighted person. I see the results of this election no matter who wins, as a plus for the rejuvenation of conservatives, the likes of which this nation has not seen in years. To me the outcome of this election if Obama, will jump start conservatism, if McCain, it allows us a few years for a rebuilding for the 2012 comeback. Life is good and I thank God being alive in this very exciting time for our nation.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
usagym...you are the ones who changed the wealth distribution in this country. You've robbed the middle class of this country. Record corporate profits have not trickled down. The rich get richer and the American middle class is shrinking. Also the Soviet Union did no such thing.
wittumy 3 years ago
Little Buster is a clear example of the morons backing McCain. How he managed to minimize McCain's association with ex-con G. Gordan Liddy is stunning. Liddy made contributions to the man's campaign. McCain praises him as being a good American. Get your facts straight GUIDO!
JLI1976 3 years ago
I love it when liberals are ill-equipped to discuss fact so they resort to name calling. Such behavior is further proof that liberalism is a mental disorder. Thanks for that validation.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Though I needn't call him names, Buster is symptomatic of the one-sided, unfair and hypocritical nature of the Republicans. He attempted to paint McCain's relationship as some sort of happenstance occurrence. And then he attempted to downplay Liddy's crimes as if he simply stole a Snickers. At this point I don't know if he truly didn't know the truth. Or if he just wanted to stack the deck against Obama. Either way, it was a dumb, but typical, move.
CHEETAH69 3 years ago
I understand what your saying Cheetah, and you're right, it is fair game. I don't think many liberals are going to care about the ayers connection, just like most conservatives aren't going to worry about liddy connection. The candidates need to focus on real issues, not smear.
Years ago, I was for Mccain, but he has since reversed himself so much and flipfloped more than John Kerry at an IHOP convention, that who the hell knows what he actually stands for these days.
yougotownedbyjake 3 years ago
He stands for love of country and capitalism with individual responsibility.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
You know what, yougotownedbyjake, that's exactly where I'm at. In the end these associations don't really matter. I mean I KNOW McCain doesn't share the extremist or horrible views of Liddy. I know he'd never advocate shooting one in the head or condone Liddy's illegal activity. My point, and I know you get it, is that it is silly and a bit desperate-looking to make "guilt by association" the crux of your attacks. Especially when your closet ain't so free of "skeletal" terroist!
CHEETAH69 3 years ago
I see alot of disinformation here. The Liddy never advised the killing of law abiding citizens. All the times he is quoted as saying to "shoot the ATF in the head" is when they do whats called a "dramatic entry" into your home, guns blazing, but have the wrong residence, which has happened. He was pointing out that its not your fault they have the wrong address and you should not lay down and die becuase they made a mistake. He said you should defend yourself, but aim for the head.
yougotownedbyjake 3 years ago
Your "reasoning" doesn't make any sense. If the ATF, for example, mistook my home for their target, they wouldn't come in shooting. Guns drawn perhaps. But not shooting. So what sense would it make for someone to advise me to shoot for the head? Liddy was speaking specifically about the Branch Davidians and how they could best handle the feds. Don't sugarcoat it or worse, attempt to spread more "disinformation." The dude was a terroist - PERIOD.
CHEETAH69 3 years ago
No, he wasn't speaking specifically of the Branch Dividians. I tried to link a source, but it would not let me post it. To make it easy on you, you can look up Gordon Liddy on Wikipedia for his quote under the section "Controversial Statements". People omit what they want to to try and spread lies. Nice Try. -PERIOD.
yougotownedbyjake 3 years ago
I've heard Liddy's explanation of what he's ACTUALLY talking about. And I can give him that. But instead of arguing about the target of his attack and exactly how right it was, why not move to the other crimes listed. I mean he wasn't arrested for those statements, so it is clear that he did do something wrong. And thusly, since associations have become THE issue, you don't think that his association with McCain is important and thusly, warrants public derision and questioning? Hypocrisy sucks!
CHEETAH69 3 years ago
Well, now if we are to be fair, you have to state the whole truth about this guy. Liddy did plan many other crimes that he did not carry out. He planned murder, kidnapping, and bombings. Let's also not forget that he was inspired by Nazis and has encouraged murder on his radio show. And if we are being fair, McCain did call Liddy and friend and he did say he was proud of him. They have been friendly recently. So basically, your assessment if this relationship is incomplete.
xveebabyx 3 years ago
Liddy served time for his crimes, Ayers did not. Liddy is not advocating the overthrow of our government; Ayers did and does not regret it. Liddy did not blow up public buildings, Ayers did. I tell you what, look at the people who call Ayers friend, then look at those how call Liddy friend. Then tell me which group you would call friend. I would definitely call the Liddy group my friends.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Liddy was sentenced to 30 years and only served 5. So he did not serve his time. If you believe that Obama is a friend of Ayers, then his other friends would include education reformers, presidents of universities, mayors, and distinguished professors.
But Obama and Ayers were never friends. I don't think McCain is a thief or murderer though he's friends with someone who planned to kill people. And the same follows for the Obama-Ayers connection. You should do more research and make a new video.
xveebabyx 3 years ago
Libby still served more time than Ayers. Those 5 years in prison was his time, or was it your time he served? Any professors serving with Ayers are not distinguished. Please do not try to elevate such debris. So you the all knowing (just like me) know for sure Ayers and Obama were not friends? It is what that same certainty employed by you which allows me to know the two were friends. My research has now been completed. Thanks.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Not a single person who knows Obama and/or Ayers has said that they had a close relationship. In fact, they have said that they don't believe that they were close. Also, Obama says that they were not close and do not exchange ideas. That is my evidence. What is yours? Please don't name some whack job from FOX news.
You really can't justify your opinions.
xveebabyx 3 years ago
That is because the people who know Ayers and Obama are of the same ilk and want to see an Obama victory. Think! You do the thinking, I will do the stinking.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Once more, just like a right winger, you leave out pertinent info in order to convince people of your point. Liddy plotted to kill journalist and others willing to cooperate with the Watergate investigation. He plotted to firebomb the Brooking Institution. He plotted to kidnap "leftist guerillas" at the '72 RNC. And he gave Branch Davidians advice on how to best kill fed. officials.(shoot 'em in the head!) And...HE was unrepentant. Let's bring the truth here and then judge if you must.
CHEETAH69 3 years ago
He plotted, but did not do it. Ayers plotted and he DID do it.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
So when we plot are we not committing a crime? If you are going to shoot off at the mouth and speak so vaingloriously about McCain's associations in relation, be smart and do your research. Your response is one of the most pathetic and tired attempts to explain away someone's ills that I've seen in a while. The point is, according to you, the guy is unrepentant in his "terroist" activities and yet McCain has said he's "proud." There's no amount of bullshit you can throw to clean that up.
CHEETAH69 3 years ago
Just consider this response just as "pathetic."
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Yeah your responses are pathetic.What gets me about you is that you're no different than FOX news.You only are interested in airing the "dirty laundry" about Obama. Yet when it comes to McCain's soiled linens, you either don't mention them or you attach all these extras to them or try to qualify them to make them not seem bad. That's not ethical. If you are gonna take the time to make a vid, I'm thinking it would make sense to be TOTALLY honest or at least appear that you've done some research.
CHEETAH69 3 years ago
If you told me that Obama was pals with Osama, well that would be something. But so he knows a vietnam war protester. Did he kill anyone? The govt had their chance to get him and screwed it up, so its on them.
As for G Liddy, his only fault was extreme loyalty; he was the only one who refused to "name names" and earned much respect for being willing to go to jail instead of turning on those he has sworn his loyalty to. That kind of personal honor is pretty much dead these days.
yougotownedbyjake 3 years ago
hold up this dumb video first off all what did barack obama do wrong by being on a board with him. A Reagan ambassador (Walter Aniberg)
was on the board.ask Barack Obama he started his political campaign in a ramada hotel.get your facts straight before you make a dumb video to show how much you are an ignorant repubilcan. a criminal terrorist same thing G.Gordon liddy is a friend of Mccain as he says in the talk show long time. dont play this stupid game you sound almost as dumb as sarah palin
Sasaki90 3 years ago
Good work! The Ayers- Liddy comparison is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The media is so protective of Obama, their undoing will be in their arrogance. The biggest clue is they to respond and become defensive for everything. At least AP is an example of consumers rejecting the product of terrible bias. I hope through the power of consumerism we have some sort of revival in our press, where they have to do their job due to a higher standard of scrutiny, skepticism, and accountability.
jgpeppers 3 years ago
associations, really?
Why don't you make a video about this:
William Timmons, a Washington Lobbyistand the head of John McCain's Presidential Transition Team, aided an influence effort on behalf of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to ease international sanctions against his regime. 90's.
In Case you forgot, Saddam Hussein WAS THE DICTATOR OF IRAQ and a member of the axis of evil. Now that's "a terrorist, right?"
Just remember a vote for John McCain is a vote for war in Iran and the continued
cubilist 3 years ago
You need a better fact-checker and some sugar to go with the koolaide you been drinking.
dcmetroman62 3 years ago
watch McCain on Dave Letterman show and look at his face expression when liddy's was mentioned..
maherbih 3 years ago
fuck you
419tube 3 years ago
Gordon the Plumber also plotted the firebombing of the Brookings Institute, the murder of journalist critical of Nixon. You friggin' moron!
chimeraweaver 3 years ago
Did he carry it out?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Tim McVeigh, the most effective domestic terrorist ever in U.S. history was a registered Republican.
McVeigh killed 168 U.S. citizens to express his disgust with "too much government".
Ayers never killed anyone. Ayers destroyed a statue and damaged some buildings protesting our napalming Vietnamese babies.
Ayers is a pro-life extremist.
johnnybandmember 3 years ago
Before you swallow what buster presents as fact, do yourself the favor and research the weather underground aka the weathermen. There is a free documentary on video.google available which explains the whole group and interviews members. If you disagree with those folks, you are about as anti-american as you can get. They were straight up patriots who were tired of our government ignoring the people against the vietnam war. Google is your friend. The media is chalk full of misinformation.
pokerslut530 3 years ago
The media is chalk full of misinformation -- and so buster echo's it. Some "propaganda buster" this guy is.
pokerslut530 3 years ago
You were not alive when they were causing havoc in the USA and blowing up buildings, I was, and I was there. I know what they were because I walked among them. Your history is through indoctrination, my history is though living it.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
USA...you and those like you who claim to know what we think...are wrong again. The only ones I've heard use the messiah word is you. The Soviet Union? That's the kind of crap that has lost America's confididence in conservatives....all blather...but keep it up!
wittumy 3 years ago
Propo you forgot to tell your viewers of the Dallas Morning News issue that included three concervative columnists on it's editorial pages. The DMN(Bellow Corp) is conservative owned and has backed Republican candidates for president every election of my life not to mention their support of republicans for Governor and the Senate. Every newspaper tries to have balance in its' daily reporting. If you want to know how they really feel you look at who they recommend for office. Check their record.
wittumy 3 years ago
I check their record every morning, and that record is far left.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Propo...Your far left comment puzzles me. DMN editorial writers are Carl Leubsdorf, William McKenzie, Rod Dreher and Mark Davis...all concervatives. Keven Ann Willey the Editor is conservative. Syndicated writer Charles Krauthammer, a conservative is a guest sometimes. Occaisionally they'll have NY Times writers Thos. Friedman or Paul Krugman who are not conservative but they also include Davis Brooks who is. Ever see Molly Ivans when she was alive or Maureen Dowd in the DMN?
wittumy 3 years ago
Listen no sense in us going back and forth about the DMN. Let us see who they endorse for this election and that should tell you.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
You're right propo. I'll be thinking of how I'll spend my winnings instead. If I'm wrong, after I'm resuscitated I'll buy you a beer on top of the bet.
wittumy 3 years ago
If I am wrong, I will let you do that.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Looking forward to the DMN's announcement...you know I hope you're right...it'll be worth a buck and a beer.
wittumy 3 years ago
Y'know I was actually gonna give you some credit because I thought you were gonna point out the hypocrisy in all of this. But then I listen further and I see that you are only interested in presenting a one-sided, ill-informed point of view. Just so YOU know, McCain's only association with him is not from radio. McCain accepted thousands of dollars from him. He attended a fundraiser in his honor at HIS house.So that, 2 me, would suggest more than a mere acquaintenceship. Just be honest dude.
CHEETAH69 3 years ago
So what is the big deal? Libby is an honorable American, McCain should be proud of his assoication.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Libby probably is an honorable American...today. But 30 years ago he wasn't. Just relatively recently he gave the advice on killing federal officials. Are you saying that he should be morally absolved of his crimes and thusly, his slate should be wiped clean?
You cannot hold one man to one standard of conduct and judge him. But turn around and ignore that standard when referring to the guy you like. It's cowardice. It' transparent. It's "unAmerican."
CHEETAH69 3 years ago
I saying McCains association with Liddy is nowhere as serious as Obamas association with Ayers.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Um...really? That's how you respond? McCain has referred to Liddy as a "good friend" and so too has Liddy about McCain. What I am baffled by, sir, is that you appear to be a pretty logical, clear-thinking dude. And yet instead of living up to that, you employ one of the most obvious and sad displays of double standards and hypocrisy imagineable. If Ayers' connection is bad and indicative of faulty judgement. Then the same must be said and true of McCain's connection to Liddy.
CHEETAH69 3 years ago
USAG.... I'd prefer a man with vision than a man who lives in the past like McCain. If you wish to call him a messiah so be it....none of us liberals do.
wittumy 3 years ago
they both subverted the rule of law, anarchist or fascist, you cant argue taste...
beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
thescreamingid 3 years ago
Dear Mr Propaganda Buster,
Bank of New York Mellon Corp, Citigroup Inc., Wells Fargo & Co., JPMorgan Chase & Co., Bank of America Corp. and Morgan Stanley all extend their cordial invitation to Socialism facilitated by your host Republican president George W Bush. Socialism is a charity event benefitting struggling capitalists so please give more generously than you already have.
dimentagon 3 years ago
So far you posted the above comment on four of my videos. How many more do you plan to spam with this comment before I start marking them as span?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Don't read the liberal papers or watch the national socialist networks. I read blogs and online mags and I listen to talk radio to get my news. I even listen to the National Propaganda Radio to hear the liars and slanters prattle on about the lunatic fringe religious right (Christians who believe the Bible).
dingorex 3 years ago 2
The news media in a lot of these cases, like the one mentioned in this video are well aware of what they're shoveling. They're tactic is to saturate the American public with bogus articles and create exactly what Propagander Buster said, a swaying of public opinion. These papers only hope your reading the morning edition before you've had your coffee.
kookiemoose 3 years ago 2
What is shocking to me about this election is the amount of mud slinging going on. I must admit I have not followed other USA elections as closely as this for the simple reason that this is the most important election in my life time. So perhaps other elections were equally as bad. But it appears that McCain/Palin are no slouches when it comes to throwing the dirt around but they do not have the media backing Obama does.
I admire your passion and thankyou for the informative videos.
oaoooao 3 years ago
oaoooao, Good observations. Politics is a dirty business regardless of country. The media is for Obama and against McCain. It is obvious to anyone.
seka1986 3 years ago
oaoooao....it's hard to get the media behind you when you openly bash them as the McCain/Palin campaign did.
wittumy 3 years ago
that right you can't trust anything the news say anymore........Except Fox News rights?-_-
runisunke 3 years ago
Correct (most of the time).
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Hey, PropagandaBuster...runisunke ("that right you can't trust anything the news say anymore........Except Fox News right?") must be one of those people who seriously think all the other US media (Even NBC/MSNBC, CNN, and the NY Times and most major newspapers) are moderate or even CONSERVATIVE-leaning!
ROFLMFAO!
Good vid, btw. :-)
clhoyt1003 3 years ago
Thanks and you are correct. Too many people are duped by the news media.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Wow... someone spiked the Kool-Aid and you guys are drunk on it. Almost every one of your subjects is an extension of a Fox news/Limbaugh talking point.
P.S... if you have to emphatically say "Fair and Balanced" or "No spin", that is exactly what you're not. It is classic Reaction Formation and Cognitive Dissonance combined. I'm sure you will have to look those terms up, but you may benefit from doing so.
Bahdageet 3 years ago
Thank you for complimenting me by associating me with FOX news and Rush Limbaugh. I did not realize I was that good. See that is why I like YouTube, people are so kind.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
All I'm saying is that your responses and opinions have very few independent thoughts. How are you not being "duped" if you just recycle the propaganda from the conservative media? How is it any different from a liberal adopting the propaganda from the liberal media?
Bahdageet 3 years ago
So to you when like minded people express their thoughts with ideological similarity, that to you is being duped? When the Founding Fathers expressed an interest to create a new nation with similar eloquence based upon the same classical intellect, these men were also duped.
To me being duped are those victims of public school education of the last 30 years being indoctrinated in political correctness. It is all in the eyes of the beholder.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
The neo-lib media will do anything to put their messiah candidate, Obama, into office.
seka1986 3 years ago 2
The liberal media tried to do the same thing by trying to compare Obama/Rev. Jeremiah Wright with John McCain/John Hagee.
Tamar1973 3 years ago 3
Five Stars!!!
MadBadVoodo 3 years ago 2