Where do you train ? Where is your Teacher's school ? I would like to have a place to visit when I next go to Brasil (if its convenient , that is)
Guys :
Lay the hell off , Its called training for a reason - you dont start off good at anything , and theyre obviously students just getting the movements into their bodies in this vid
I notice you both tend to deflect blows by the natural reaction of trying to "slap" them away, and in doing so bring your hands entirely off the oh-so-important center line. You should try to get into the habit of applying the drilling method to deflect blows (which is hard to do without consistent partner practice). Pi Quan ftw. >)
It's important to use the elements as they're practiced in sparring to solidify their applicability. A good method may be to start sparring slow-mo and work up.
In this video our teacher says in portuguese "Defend more. You're slapping too much". The slapping you see are failed attempts of using monkey hands, not some natural reaction. By the way, dodging and blocking are natural reactions, not slapping. At least in my country.
Let me point out that this video was recorded two years ago, so your advice is a little late. :-)
Seriously now, we do have a teacher. Everything you say, he told us many times. I'm more inclined to listen to him, no offense.
By natural reaction, I meant the rather spastic way most untrained (not referring to you) people try to block things by using open hands to deflect them way outside the area necessary to defend. I didn't notice the date on the video, so sorry. :-)
And none taken. Besides, it sounds like we're in agreement. Happy training!
You're right, I shouldn't lean my body back. Just for the record, it's not our teacher who is responsible for posting the videos. And he taught me not to do that, I was really lacking practice at the time.
1. Just my 2 cents. Xingyi, looks linear like some types of karate and in the beginning some schools teach to travel that straight line. The problem with that is shown in the video in my opinion. In xingyi thee are many hidden angles by changing the attacking body path 1/4 of a body lenghth left or right. This is down simultaneously as you attack the centerline. You guys are doing fine attacking the center, but crash in the miiddle. You kind of invite luck as of who will win the final move.
2. So, remember 1/4 of a body is relatively small and doesn't sound like much. But the entire style was based on that missing piece. Leverage, angles come to play here. But too big of angle, no good neither. Should be very small as you bridge your opponent. Now you can move with your entire body leading with footwork.But the advanced way is to make space with your torso L/R 1/4 body length as you block/bridge.Then you will always dominate the other's centerline and rely on chance,that much less.
You're right, of course. We've been taught that many many times. But one thing is knowing what to do, another very different thing is to apply what one is told to do. When our laoshi (teacher? I don't know what word to use here) is around, he constantly remembers us that we should rely less on the straight line. Be assured that what you saw is not a problem of our school, it's more of a problem of students who can only practice once a week.
not bad some more free stepping. And one good thing: always test your self in a very hard way. Take some grappling gloves shinpads mouth guard and try it out with full force. Happy trainig! And good to see someone who is trying!!
Thanks for your compliment and advice. We're seriouly considering the eventual use of protection equipment. But shinpads are useless for us. We only use shin strikes against the opponent's knee, and no shinpad will prevent it from serious damage if we use full force. If our goal was MMA competition, then we would certainly have to adapt that.
Have these gentlemen been trained in Wing Chun (The style of the recent movie Ip Man) before?
ventsolaire 1 year ago
Nice practice. I like it. :-)
Samoobramba 1 year ago
This is good man, kudos.
TheCrazyHairPianist 1 year ago
Where do you train ? Where is your Teacher's school ? I would like to have a place to visit when I next go to Brasil (if its convenient , that is)
Guys :
Lay the hell off , Its called training for a reason - you dont start off good at anything , and theyre obviously students just getting the movements into their bodies in this vid
Djimbe 2 years ago
Our school is in Viamao, Rio Grande do Sul. You're welcome to visit our school. And thanks for defending us. :-)
maxingyi 2 years ago
Xing Yi ?? I couldn't really see much of that. I take it you've done some wing-chun before.
MrGlenmiester 2 years ago
We never did Wing Chun.
maxingyi 2 years ago
looks like a bunch of slap fighting. I see a lot of rule breaking as far as principles go.
NinjatoSama 2 years ago
It's always great to see people testing what they think about the Internal Arts like Xingyi.
My one question is 'Where are all the throws/takedowns/knockdowns?' I appreciate there's a hard floor - is that the only reason?
Good luck with the training. Sounds like your teacher has you on the right path.
daoistviewer 2 years ago
TRAIN BJJ!
JustaEropeanGuy 2 years ago
I notice you both tend to deflect blows by the natural reaction of trying to "slap" them away, and in doing so bring your hands entirely off the oh-so-important center line. You should try to get into the habit of applying the drilling method to deflect blows (which is hard to do without consistent partner practice). Pi Quan ftw. >)
It's important to use the elements as they're practiced in sparring to solidify their applicability. A good method may be to start sparring slow-mo and work up.
theMAG101 2 years ago 5
In this video our teacher says in portuguese "Defend more. You're slapping too much". The slapping you see are failed attempts of using monkey hands, not some natural reaction. By the way, dodging and blocking are natural reactions, not slapping. At least in my country.
Let me point out that this video was recorded two years ago, so your advice is a little late. :-)
Seriously now, we do have a teacher. Everything you say, he told us many times. I'm more inclined to listen to him, no offense.
maxingyi 2 years ago
By natural reaction, I meant the rather spastic way most untrained (not referring to you) people try to block things by using open hands to deflect them way outside the area necessary to defend. I didn't notice the date on the video, so sorry. :-)
And none taken. Besides, it sounds like we're in agreement. Happy training!
theMAG101 2 years ago
You're right, I shouldn't lean my body back. Just for the record, it's not our teacher who is responsible for posting the videos. And he taught me not to do that, I was really lacking practice at the time.
maxingyi 3 years ago
1. Just my 2 cents. Xingyi, looks linear like some types of karate and in the beginning some schools teach to travel that straight line. The problem with that is shown in the video in my opinion. In xingyi thee are many hidden angles by changing the attacking body path 1/4 of a body lenghth left or right. This is down simultaneously as you attack the centerline. You guys are doing fine attacking the center, but crash in the miiddle. You kind of invite luck as of who will win the final move.
hsingstye 3 years ago
2. So, remember 1/4 of a body is relatively small and doesn't sound like much. But the entire style was based on that missing piece. Leverage, angles come to play here. But too big of angle, no good neither. Should be very small as you bridge your opponent. Now you can move with your entire body leading with footwork.But the advanced way is to make space with your torso L/R 1/4 body length as you block/bridge.Then you will always dominate the other's centerline and rely on chance,that much less.
hsingstye 3 years ago
You're right, of course. We've been taught that many many times. But one thing is knowing what to do, another very different thing is to apply what one is told to do. When our laoshi (teacher? I don't know what word to use here) is around, he constantly remembers us that we should rely less on the straight line. Be assured that what you saw is not a problem of our school, it's more of a problem of students who can only practice once a week.
maxingyi 3 years ago
not bad some more free stepping. And one good thing: always test your self in a very hard way. Take some grappling gloves shinpads mouth guard and try it out with full force. Happy trainig! And good to see someone who is trying!!
Aiolosz 3 years ago
Thanks for your compliment and advice. We're seriouly considering the eventual use of protection equipment. But shinpads are useless for us. We only use shin strikes against the opponent's knee, and no shinpad will prevent it from serious damage if we use full force. If our goal was MMA competition, then we would certainly have to adapt that.
maxingyi 3 years ago