Patient pleads: please stop my shock treatment

[DoctorSarahLPalmer]

Stop whinging cry babies! ECT is extremely safe and doesn't cause any problems at all. Anyway, who cares about the lives of nutters, by the way? I always get a kick out of humiliating my patients he he :-P. I even got one loony woman to kill herself once, it made me feel like a princess!

[Bigshotism]

I was involuntarily committed back in the mid 1990's and a psychiatrist tried to forcibly administer ECT. They had a judicial hearing and I fought it all the way. Some how I emerged victorious and the psychiatrist claimed I only undermined my recovery. At least I have still have most of my memory. The depressive symptoms wax and wane, but memory loss is permanent. It's pathetic how these doctors violate the ethical principles they swore to uphold - so much for the therapeutic relationship

[wepul]

Please sign this ‘Abolish ECT’ e-petition and relegate it to history books like lobotomy. UK citizens or residents only

://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/pe­titions/16278

[grettagrids]

they give me ECT I will SUE! I have a neurostimulator I need for my bladder to work. that would destroy it!

[s4097614]

I find it funny that ECT is seen as deplorable but cutting someone top to tail is seen as ok. Both are done under anesthesia and ECT has 80% efficacy in the treatment of severe MDD. Psychiatry like the rest of the medical profession is ruled by evidence based medicine. Evidence is obtained through the highest levels of study and analysis and are subject to unbiased ethics review.

[drumheadcircle]

Damn Royal Reptoides! Her husband too. If she's not "well enough", to be granted a divorce .. I'de tell her to head for Vancouver, where the street people will treat her better than these lizards.(she'll get better meds too) People LOOK UP the Animal Testing...to see a fried kitten jerkin' and stumbling, UTTER HORROR

[drumheadcircle]

Damn Royal Reptoides! Her husband too. If she's not "well enough", to be granted one... I'de tell her to head for Vancouver, where the street people will treat her better than these lizards.(she'll get better meds too)

[drumheadcircle]

Damn Royal Reptoides!

[SpiceyGrooves]

no one should ever be forced against their will to undergo any type of treatment or medication, controversial or not

[ls3100sfi]

It`s 2011 & our doctors are the most educated individuals who utilize all the best technology and resources available to perform fully logical, beneficial, scientifically proven treatments to enhance your life and best care for your specific conditions. ECT is harmless, running electric currents through your brain tissues is stimulating! Treatments cause patients to enhance their cognitive abilities and gain memory! Mixing all kinds of new prescription drugs or labotomies work great also! Duurrp

[psychobollox]

@ls3100sfi

I seriously hope you're being facetious there.

Psychiatry is one of the most dangerous branches of medicine, since the development of 'treatments' has not really been based in science; rather, it's been based on a suck-it-and-see model best left in the kitchen. My aunt's a gynaecologist. One of her best friends is a psychiatrist. My aunt won't even refer any NAD patients to her best friend! Says a lot about psychiatry, really.

[lovleymissmalfoy]

you need a bit of Ooooooo shock treatment gets you jumping like a real live wire

Needs a bit of Ooooo shock treatment So look out mister, don't you blow your last resistor for a vista that'll mystify ya

[gamsjune4]

they asked if i wanted it and i punched there faces in and went to jail for 2 years because i almost killed the man i just met the man today and punched him in the face

[LaLune44]

he said she suffers from bipolar disorder and manic depressive.....they are the exact same thing that just call it bipolar now a days. shows how much he knows

[ecosby100]

wow go america for once see what happens all u dumass pro gun law assholes take them away and more shit like this starts hapining

[BrookeSpiffy]

@ecosby100 Wow, that was the most poor use of grammar I have ever seen.

[WastingWeed]

@BrookeSpiffy

'Poorest'

[Whiterhin018]

Electric shock therapy still happens? WTF?! sending electric currents through your brain does absolutely NOTHING BENEFICIAL whatsoever.

[sweetiepie212121]

Being given ECT against her will is a sin.

xx.

[JOEDRUMS2112]

Someone needs to tell her that she will have heart damage. It causes the heart to eventually become irregular. And the clinic will get away with it.

[youarebeingdeceived]

this is terrible.

youarebeingdeceived-dotcom

[Chocokitty17]

Also long-term memory loss is rare in ECT - all treatments have some sort of side effects, and ECT is no exception. However, ECT tends to lower amount of side effects even compared to psychotropic meds.

ECT is also not painful - the patients are put under general anesthetics so they do not feel anything during the procedure (lasts 5 minutes at most). The patients sometimes get headaches after, but that's easily treated with analgesics.

[Chocokitty17]

I work in a psychiatric institute and I know ECT is usually used for patients who are treatment resistant (poor outcomes from medications, etc). Since the lady on the news has Bipolar disorder, there is also a chance she may have very poor insight to her illness, and like many other psychiatric patients, she may not truly appreciate the consequence of not receiving treatment for her illness. But of course her husband does, because he saw the negative changes in her, and wants her to get better

[IllegalinCalifornia]

@Chocokitty17, guess what, it's HER CHOICE

[Chocokitty17]

We'll see. Because for all we know, she may not have the capacity to fully appreciate what the illness does to her. What if she has the potential to hurt herself or others?

You can't make assumptions based on just one news report. See for yourself what it is like working with mentally ill patients.

BTW I am not saying all mentally ill patients have poor insight, deserves no say in their treatment. Anyway this issue is getting too long, so I'll stop for now.

[brunsk123]

Seems to me that her husband is the problem, not her.

[luckylangerie]

Im bored now.. Ive been watching too many youtube videos.. I say KILL THE BITCH .

[NoMisstakes]

You can tell some things are just wrong. Especially a "TREAT" button gives it away.

[zwanger26]

She does not consent to the treatment.

New Zealand is stuck in the dark ages.

[messianic2010]

I am glad we Americans got independence from these blokes. Now with that crazy Socialist Obama in the white house, we will soon be a police state like Great Brittan, we will have medical acts like this under his new health care act, and CCTV cameras. We lost too many brave American soldiers to end up Socialist like the British. If this comes to America, I hope my State votes in it's state house of representatives for succession. Praise Gov. Perry of Texas for having the balls to suggest it.

[Lisaannjoel]

@messianic2010

Except there is electroshock going on in a school in America. Look up Judge Rotenberg center. Some of these children have mild problems, some have more severe, some have adhd, some have autism. They get no privacy, have to wear electro shock backpacks with the bands on their bodies.

Some get shocked for just merely sneezing. Some deaths and reports of rape. This school is still open.

[ieden5432]

why isnt illegal yet? it doesnt even work, one of my relatives went retarded because of it. and when i mean retarded i mean its litural term "slow", and doesnt it hurt like heack?

[photo986]

In the late 1950's the CIA had a secret brainwashing program they paid a doctor to carry it out using electrich shock 80 times stronger that what was considered accptable he used LSD and put patients to sleep for weeks while a brainwash tape played Im telling my story on you tube under youkilledyourmother

[artnoveau82]

rapsucks is absolutely right...I'm bipolar and can see no differentiation between that and manic-depression. Also, is ETC the last resort for this patient? Maybe her psychiatrist should try to adjust the meds before the ETC

[MachineAmbition]

What are her symptoms and is she suicidal? She seems fine right now, and should be able to refuse treatment, but it would be interesting to see her when she is not undergoing the treatment. If there is no difference, then it def. shouldn't be administered.

[rapsucks1776]

They say she has bipolar AND manic depression. I'm sorry but bipolar IS manic depression you dopes. It's the same damn term.

[UKSecretCourts]

She seems clear about what she wants.

She doesn't want ECT.

Not well enough to give consent indeed, talk about smoke and mirrors from the clinic.

[cripplewoox]

bullshit this is totally againts a humans choice,and is a form of torture,its the equivelent of dropping a kilogram from a five story building on a persons head is one treatment,this is assault on a person,these doctors need fucking rite off,these cunts are inhumane

[aliccolo]

There are other proven methods of treatment for depression and bipolar disorder.  How horrific that this poor woman is forcibly subjected to this! Those "doctors" should be ashamed!

[tinker6377]

trust me ECT does WONDERS..it gives mental health patients a second chance at a simi-functioning life. when you have ECT done you dont feel a thing..just like surgery. your just tired/sleepy afterwards.

[ClarkieDude]

I had 12 electric convulsive therapy treatments back in 1996 for depression. Most of my long-term memory is gone, as well as my ability to remember most anything from a short-term perspective. It has certainly impaired my creative process. ECT treatment is barbaric and must be stoppped.

[MachineAmbition]

Were you suicidal?

[jazzyangelgrl]

No, however, I have always had a rather morbid fear of death and I tend to ruminate from time to time. The doctors who performed the ECT treatments were both dismissed in 1999resulting from my settlement. A certain majority of professionals and advocates alike realize ECT for individuals suffering with bipolar (even those who may be suicidal as a result) is "barbaric" and serves no long-term, theraputic purpose. I let my 2001 out-of-court settlement against them speak for itself. Thank you.

[mabacdabatmaban]

boo-hoo

[MachineAmbition]

Does it serve a short-term, therapeutic purpose then? What sort of creative process effects? Did it only affect a few areas of your cognition (ie memory, creative thinking)?

[wen790]

@ClarkieDude my grandad had them back in the 1950s and he suffered

[marginaluser]

Hi Valuehunter

What are your credentials, please, since you appear to be giving an "expert" opinion ?

[RobinHood1969]

ooh sign me up!!Do you want 5,000 volts of lighting in your brain cells? What a dumb question! Are we in the dark ages of Nazi dictator doctors? Theodore Gilbert Morell was Hitlers Dr. Do you think he healed Hitler or just made him worse? Drug pushing Doctors Suck!!

[MachineAmbition]

National Socialism has little to do with this. Most of what NS used was borrowed, and was perverted. Not to say, however, that this is good.  Just that comparing everything to NS is poor logic and obscures a very real argument.

[marginaluser]

Fistandell, I would never force anything on anyone. That would be a rape of sorts.

Read the books out there and not the internet for accurate information.

If push comes to shove and my daughters still refuse to accept that 1+1=2, I would just administer an ECT to myself to prove the point.

If any of my patients question my integrity and accuse me of doing it just for the money, in deserving cases, I will waive my fees altogether save for the hospital charges which are beyond my control.

[marginaluser]

lemme tell u bloody cocks that ect works. i just wish the authorities would take money out of the equation to show that none of them involved are doing it for percuniary benefits. i m a medical professional and lemme tell u that i would administer it with my hands to both my beautiful n wonderful daughters if they came stricken with bipolar.

[Fistandell]

But as a free human being if your daughter refused and begged you not too would you still force it on her?

[berniesbargreece]

ECT is a legalized act of unholy violence. Its brutal and barbaric! The brain is far to complicated for us mere mortals to ever understand, so to simply fire volts of electricity through it is an irresponsible act to say the least. Anyone who falls prey to this perverted act should sue those responsible. There are parasites living off this macabre, foul, depraved nonsense and should be brought to account for their actions.

[bagman234]

who cares if its the last resort, its still taking away human rights

[MondoBeno]

In the USA, patients have more rights. Because of that it's harder to commit mentally ill persons. That's why in New York, mentally ill persons often wind up homeless and on the streets. We can't force treatment on people without their consent.

[Obsidian433]

Dude, that is so bullshit. Do you even know anything about psychology, psychiatry, and mental illness?

[Obsidian433]

I can't believe this video. This is so sad. ECT is only used on patients who really, really NEED the treatment. It's safe, and it usually works great.

[vincent4500]

think about it, high earning Psychiatrists earning big wages whilst inflicting torture on the most afflicted members of our society..medieval, Inquisition like treatment..ironic that those in the 'caring' professions actually inflict such intense torture on people like the poor lady above..fuck the vulturous doctors!

[Obsidian433]

It is not a torturous treatment. It is only used as a last resort, when it's severely needed. It's a safe treatment, much safer and better understood than it was in the earlier days of the treatment.

So who would you go to instead of a doctor? A televangelist? A psychic? A homeopathy "doctor"?

[friskyfixedit]

i thought bipolar and manic were the same things.

[guitarro5]

ect is among the best treatments for refractory psychiatric conditions and it is very safe now adays....it is safer to give a pregnant woman ECT than to treat her with medications due to the harm it could cause her baby. to respond to the comment about short term results, patients usually do have to be kept on a maintenence ECT regimen but it does help out dramatically, especiallyl seeing that depression is a condition that untreated will go away, although that could take quite a very long time

[guitarro5]

I have seen patients refractory to multiple treatment modalities including aggressive medication and therapy show response after only a few treatments. Mild post ECT headaches and some retrograde short term memory loss are the major side effects, but the memories eventually return.

[jerryaltman]

Medieval times even today. Shock treatment it's a absurd. How can modern medicine allow this barbarie??? Freak doctors!!!

[jtadpoll]

it annoys me when people act as though manic depression and bipolar disorder are two separate disorders...idiots dont know that its the same fucking thing

[psychpatient101]

espen the truth of the matter is the results are short term. In most studies done 2-6 weeks after tretment patients return to the same state they were in except for the brain damage that occcurs during treatment. Memory loss, cognitive dysfunction, The reason they might feel better short term is because its like getting a concussion. The doctors use 4000 times the amount of electricity needed to do what they claim there doing.

[espen1976]

ECT are used to patients with bipolar and manic depressive diagnose. In Norway this is a treatment that you can not force someone to do, and I find it strange that they do this with force in Britain. The ECT does not work on all, but a majority says that it has a good effect on them. I know, couse I work in a mental hospital, and have attended and observed ECT treatment. Sorry for the bad english.

[Bonhomie88]

the patients who say it helps them are only saying that so they dont get more shocks and so they get released. ECT should be banned.

[adorableklutz]

What happened to freedom?

[bluesinkku]

"She's bipolar and manic depressive." Nice research!

[adorableklutz]

lmao!

[jaymedecas]

This breaks my heart. Can you imagine if it were happening to you???

[bluesinkku]

Breaks mine too.

[KCobain88]

the sound is annoying