Senator J. Melenchon: Tibet, Invasion, Serfdom

[Esclarmonde04]

Certes, le Tibet était une société moyennageuse jusque dans les années 50 mais ce n'était tout de même pas une raison pour les coloniser.... C'est une menace contre leur identité ce qui ne fait qu'aggraver les réflexes identitaires donc religieux. Le Tibet ferait partie de la chine depuis le Moyen-âge donc c'est normal qu'ils soient occupés par les chinois ? Drôle d'excuse !

[antoni0gramsci]

Mélenchon présidons !

En 2012, je vote utile, je vote Front de Gauche !

[YishaWang]

Till now commen westerns still believe so. But we chinese learn from western media, you are fucking propaganda tools, too, especially when they are talking about China. only one voice, China = evil. Als a chinese, I just what to tell you. I give a fuck how you westerns look at china. We only do our job. we do good job, like Olympic Games 2008. You just sit and badmouth china, meanwhile we progress, imporve, grow........... 

[YishaWang]

i am a chinese living in germany right now. the whole world knows chinese news are somehow controled, including chinese people. BUT, MORE PEOPLE OUT OF CHINA BELIEVE THEY ENJOY THE FREEDOM OF PRESS, WHICH IS TOTALLY BULLSHIT AND LIE! For example usa, france, germany, uk..... IT IS EVEN MORE HORRABLE! We chinese know there is still space to improve, and we are working on it. But the westerns believe they have a perfect fair justic media system, which have been proven wrong in 2008.

[Charlie200971]

Tête de noeud, ce Melenchon les anti jeux en chine sont aussi anti servage et pouvoir chinois qui a réprimé le soulevement des etudiants à Tien amen. ce sont des nuls comme Melenchon qui ont saboté les idéaux communistes.ce sont ces sous merdes qui ont envoyé les opposés en Sibérie... NE DONNEZ JAMAIS LE POUVOIR A CE MELENCHON. IL FAUT ELIMINER LE POUVOIR CHINOIS, CE SONT DES IMPOSTEURS COMMUNISTES. ILS CREUSERONT LEURS PROPRES TOMBES.

[MrStaxxy]

French politics \o/

The worst and the better at the same times.

[Remyoshi4]

"J'aime" la bêtise et l'indépendance intellectuelle de ce type: "Un pogrom anti-Chinois"... Après combien de morts, de massacres de moines, de destructions, de viols parmi la population tibétaine???? ... Pour quel résultat??? Une nation communiste qui n'a d'unie que l'image donnée par des fous.. Une dictature sans nom où les Tibétains mais aussi les Ouïgours sont contraints de subir l'annihilation totale de leur culture d'après les préceptes d'un des plus grands meurtriers de l'Histoire...

[agricola]

all communists everywhere should be rounded up and put in concentration camps and worked till they are no longer physically capable of work, then they should be thrown into furnaces and their corpses used as energy to run power plants.

[416thenomad]

@agricola China Communiust will round up your family and send them to burn IN HELL, hahahahaha

[agricola]

faggot frenchmen at it again

[MrZwitterion]

Mélenchon isn't a socialist anymore...

[MultiAlpha111]

money talks and gun rules

[vishal31594]

COMMUNISM IS SERFDOM OF MIND

[AnjuABCDE]

@vishal31594 then how come USSR was the first country to send a man into space?

[Graoutine]

the translation is wrong : he says "I have rather been a protester THAN a represser", of course... not "and then" !

[vishal31594]

It's totally crazy to hear such huge bullshit from a french politician ; chinese communist government live only by repression, torture and execution... the first victim is chinese people and not only tibetan, what Melenchon is doing is like making apology of the nazi regim... chinese government has kill his children in tien amen and has destroy a wonderfull country with very high level of spirituality:

Melenchon is a rotten politician ; very big ego and dark ignorance... FREE TIBET !

FREE CHINA

[Graoutine]

@vishal31594 He only talks about facts. You can't make facts vanish. He never said that China had a good regime, never denied the horrors perpetuated by the Chinese communist regime. He is only simply saying that reality isn't white and black. Reality is COMPLEX.

[vishal31594]

it's truth that reality is complex and not white or black, but it is simply false to say Tibet is a part of China, Tibet is a country with his own culture, langage, religion, ours medias never speak about situation in Tibet, it's a taboo subject, and when they did we can hear Melenchon repeting what the chinese communist regime is saying since the invasion, it truth that feodal system (and the Dalai Lama was on the way to reform his country...) wasn't perfect but infinitively better than Maoism

[cheeplyOwasp]

@vishal31594 well ... lets be fair can we ? im a sing canadian and i live in hong kong for almost 10 year . i tarvel tothe northren mainland very often i know the chinese governmnt is far form being a good government , cos, i always heard news about how the government doing all the injust thing to their ppl , but the monk in tibet is far form be an angel . i had see a bunch of young monks whipping a old men [ i dont know why] and i heard all bad things about them .

[powertothepeoplesdog]

empty vessel make more noise and this guy is one

[gengar77]

great man with even greater point of view.

[tofumatrix]

most people have been told to hate communist by capitalist.

[tofumatrix]

So their opinions are biased.

[smarttulku]

Before Communist China's takeover of Tibet in 1950s, Tibet's southern border were virtually unguarded and free. However, no Tibetan crossed free border in the name of seeking asylum in the neighboring countries. Not a single Tibetan were living in the west either. However, in the 1950s when Tibet was overtaken by China, thousands of Tibetans crosses fully guarded border to seek asylum every year. This very clearly shows that old Tibet was not as terrible as China's occupation. Free Tibet.

[iysum]

The majority of those crossed the border were the 2% noblities and monks, the only privileged group that were allowed to own lands in Tibet. Da lai lama needs to be truthful in telling the entire truth, that is a key teaching in Buddhism

[bluebaby0710]

Thanks very much for posting this vedio. Now, i know not all the French like Sarkory. hope, China and French can recover its relationship.

[Rakkasans2006]

the exile Tibetan are the result of U.S proxy war. they are use in case if their is a stand off between China and U.S. The Tibetan are tools for war, nothing more.

[VivalaChina]

But before the Mongolian Yuan Dynasty,Tibet was not a part of China.The Sung Dynasty fought the Tufan tribes(ancient Tibetans),but the Sung Dynasty never ruled Tibet.

[VivalaChina]

He said that Tibet was a part of China since 14th century.The problem is the Yuan Dynasty of the 14th century was a Mongolian Dynasty.After the Yuan Dynasty,the Han Chinese Ming Dynasty still ruled Tibet.

[Globalvisual]

You don't see an Indian national or Mexican, unhappy with anything in his or her own country go seek assistance from another country to attack his own country. Its like asking your neighbour to attack your parents just because you don't fully agree with them. That's the problem with you Zang ethnic minority (Tibetan) of Xizang, China. Whatever grievances you have with your motherland, China, the doors to peaceful discussions has always been open to your leaders.

[choubdabibi]

and you believe what he says... it's smokescreen...

lies

[ltangelic]

Sure, anything, anyone that says what China did is right is ultimately a lie, how convincing don't you think idiot? GIVE ME EVIDENCE THAT HE'S LYING MORON.

[Freshmanwave]

I will correct an error in this video:

Tibet is not 1/4 of China's territory, as Melenchon claims; it is about 1/8 of it; Xinjiang, the largest region, is about 1/6 of all Chinese land.

[Rakkasans2006]

look up greater Tibet.

[sayusayme8]

this guy reli rocks mannnnnnnnnnnnnn

merc!!!

[Bruno9K]

BRAVO MELENCHON !!!

[Bruno9K]

BRAVO MELENCHON !!!

[Bruno9K]

BRAVO MELENCHON !!!

[Bruno9K]

BRAVO MELENCHON !!!

[Bruno9K]

BRAVO MELENCHON !!!

[MrJimWinter]

Freedom for Tibet-- one world-- one dream

[rCarr0w]

BRAVO MELENCHON!

Liberté d'expression, oui! DESNFORMATION DES MEDIAS, NON!

NE NOUS BASONS PAS SUR LES PREJUGES !

VIVE LES JEUX OLYMPIQUES A BEIJING!!!

[4485lolo]

oui! oui!

je suis d'accord avec monsieur Melenchon et bien sur vous!

desinformation et les anti-chinoise..lamentable!

Les manifestation contre la Chine=nul et stupid!

Vive Les JO..ne pas Politique c'est le sport

Bravo La Chine! Bravo Melenchon

je t'aime

[Maaguaa]

J. Melenchon, 藏独的饶不了你!

[4485lolo]

bring it on you shit

[Maaguaa]

Dude, I was sarcastic

[4485lolo]

go ahead and give me a thumbs down pls

anyways..I'm sure that they will try and bite melenchon and van minden but my response will always be: bring it on ya shits

desolee

[sebsy]

He should eat his own communist words... "For heaven's sake, please stop telling the bullshit". Tibet was never a part of china. Two times in history Tibet AND china were under rule by the Manchus and the Mongols. NEVER was Tibet a part of Han china. A lack of freedom of information means the han chinese only learn what their government wants them to learn. Down with the han government!

[forrestsun]

Give your country back to the hands of indians!!!!! Free Australia!!!!!!!

[sebsy]

Indians??? There are no Indians in Australia, you uneducated moron. I'm all for much more rights for Australian Aborigines! However, they have much more rights than Tibetans do in Tibet - FACT! Obviously you're a graduate of your governments education system and a reader of your governments newspapers - Learn to think for yourself!

[agricola]

@forrestsun yea........that made alot of sense.........DERP

[Freshmanwave]

Yes, Tibet has always been a part of Han China.

[SongtsenGampo]

and your facts for this lie where?? In the hands of your government - obviously another stooge brainwashed by the CCP. Wake up mate!

[Freshmanwave]

Let me pick this argument apart:

1. Notice the biased logic: you assume me to be brainwashed by the Chinese media. Did you know that I read the BBC just about all the time on the subject (they are rather negative towards China, if you haven't noticed)?

2. Tibet has been drawn as a part of China by Westerners since at least 1800, likely earlier.

3. Ahh...an ad hominem attack. I usually don't bother responding to that. If you are right and I'm not, why use the ad hominem attack?

[Freshmanwave]

4. I come to my own conclusions based on researched data. Don't know about you; but then, I do not jump on the bandwagon of orthodoxy in opinion.

[agricola]

@Freshmanwave no, youll just believe any wacked out theory that comes along

[SongtsenGampo]

"Did you know that I read the BBC just about all the time on the subject"

how could anyone know what you watch or read?

your 'picked apart' argument makes you look rather silly, don't you think?

[Freshmanwave]

My response:

1. So if you don't know what I watch or read, what gave you the license to say that I was " another stooge brainwashed by the CCP"? You had 4 months to answer my initial argument. The faulty reasoning, however, continues.

2. The "picked apart" thing: wow...that's quote mining if I ever saw an instance of it. Look, if you are going to take your opponent's argument out of context, can't you at least do it somewhat more subtly?

Have a good day. I'll listen to string quartets.

[4485lolo]

i wonder who is brainwashed mate

[SongtsenGampo]

that would be you if you believe this guys lies>

[4485lolo]

and it would be if you choose to believe the opposite

[SongtsenGampo]

it seems all you can do on this thread is belittle the people who disagree with your opinions. shows how much of an insecure person you are.

[4485lolo]

and it seems that all you can do is to provok me into a further attack

i'm just saying what i feel like saying

is that a crime?

[sayusayme8]

have a brain scan mate!

[SongtsenGampo]

well, your intelligence shines through with that comment.

[agricola]

@Freshmanwave prove it

[andrew3656]

He Must be on the Commie's pay roll - definitely brainwashed.

-im being sarcastic btw.

the rumours stop at the wise man !

[defyingtheempire]

The most pathetic with "wise man" Mélanchon is his claims of loving China and having a passion for it. He never travelled there and wouldn't be able to name a city other than Beijing and Shanghai, or a Chinese author other than Mao Zedong... Come on Mélanchon, although you are a member of the Socialist party, your discourse is only reminiscent of Jean-Marie Le Pen's populist speeches.

[defyingtheempire]

UmofoN: You are kidding? Goldstein's expertise only extend to lexicography. He's regarded as a "political" expert by the US government only for self-serving reasons, but he's the most pro-Chinese "Tibetologist" abroad. For proper renowed scholars, check for Prof. Elliot Sperling, Robbie Barnett or Katia Buffetrille to name only a few.

[defyingtheempire]

UmofoN: Who said "Tibet was a peaceful and loving place"? Uh...? Not me, for sure!

[defyingtheempire]

Mélanchon's talks prove that he knows nothing about Tibet. No sources to back up his lies, even less a first-hand experience in traveling to Tibet. He's just a cheap French politician in need of media coverage... I guess in WWII he would have join Vichy's traitors...

[UmofoN]

Really? How about DR.Goldstein the world renowned Tibet scholar? He agree with him. Stop talking out of your ass. Only dumbass think Tibet was a peaceful and loving place.

[liebstandarteadolf]

Do you have any sources to back up your lies?

[defyingtheempire]

Well, himself said so in another interview. He also said that his knowledge of China came from "reading one hundred romans or so"... Not a very serious approach to China's great culture, uh...?

[liebstandarteadolf]

I was not referring to the accusation that he had not travelled to China. I was referring to your belief in this tibet issue.

[defyingtheempire]

23 years of experience on the subject. I read and speak Tibetan, I traveled in Greater Tibet many times (Xizang, Qinghai, Gansu, Sichuan and Yunnan), I must have read one hundred books on China (including Chinese authors) and the double on Tibet. Do you really think I need more?

[liebstandarteadolf]

Then cite your evidence then. And there is no such thing as the Greater Tibet.

[defyingtheempire]

Well, look how far extend the so-called "autonomous" prefectures and countries. Do you think the CCP invented them for fun, because Tibetans were never living there?

[liebstandarteadolf]

They have defintely not been created for fun. They purport to provide the disadvantaged populations.

[4485lolo]

people like you are pathetic...

[defyingtheempire]

That's a very strong argument. I'm definitely impressed...

[CEDRICKB]

well France is a democracy, and as such different people have different opinion and can spread them on TV... I wish it could be the same in every other country...

[LobsterHammerFoot]

Woohoo all those brainwashed biased idiots cant take the heat that they are losing. How pathetic. CCP Propaganda is ALWAYS ALWAYS there last line of defence.

[asamfish2002]

The US wants back the Dalai Lama in Tibet to give business to National Geographic. Filming the exoticness of Tibetan slavery for western audience to enjoy like those bare-bodied blood-drinking Masai in Africa or penis-sticking Papuauns in New Guinea dancing around has always been the white men's satisfaction of their being supreme.

[1one1republic]

hey tsamzen it doesnt matter even if this guy

received some chinese yuan(which i doubt),b'cause he has a valid argument,..so unless u have a better argument u r doin' absolutely nothing for freetibet movement(in youtube offcourse)

[tsamzen]

I am not surprised by his comment. i know and everybody knows some politician in demo country get corrupted or can buy by Chinese YAUN. he is only a peice of shit in France.

[4485lolo]

jean-luc melenchon is a very intelligent and fair person..as for you tais toi...get an education you can't spell

moi, je trouve que tu es tres stupide..

pfoulala...l'enfer

[Artesischer]

There have always been "useful idiots" to justify communist dictatorships' crimes and territorial occupations. Jean-Luc "leftist clown" Mélenchon is the modern incarnation of the useful idiot. China's ass-licker.

[4485lolo]

typical ignorant French...french fool...with the mentality of a reatard...he just speaks the truth...I think that you are just a bloody loser...like sakozy....type in french..merde

[Artesischer]

Stupid commie-lover, I'm not even French, I'm Fleming. Where are YOU from (if you're not from China), "comrade" ?

[4485lolo]

commie-lover? so is communism all bad?

don't want to argue with you in this time of suffering...full stop

[gvkiss]

people who thinks this is a Chinese propaganda would be stupid, because they have lost their judgement,all they have is bias against China,they do not want to see the truth to be known. with the technologies now a days the truth can not be kept behind.

[aguswidjaja]

I wouldn't want my government to be made up of a bunch of monks who enslave others either. Would you?

[splittist]

this apologetic commie politician gets his news from Xinhua.

[oc16chan]

everyone who is not agree with you is communist, don't you think you are pathatic

[yamahaU3]

People only believe what they want to believe nowdays.

[KamikazeTron]

This video is just a nice piece of socialist/communist propaganda. Who can believe what a socialist/communist say ? Leftist just care about their political agenda. Propaganda, that's all it is.

[jkuang]

He made the simple point: all governments in the world and UN recognized Tibet as part of China.

As simple as that. Free Tibet is a false agenda. It is a political posture.

[jkuang]

How many people really know what is going on in this world, other than 1KM within your own home?

When the French were thinking US people were stupid for believing George Bush under the US media brainwash, they are now following the exact trick: they learned and believed whatever the French Media told them.

>>>>>>>>>

boilingpoint100 the pity is lots of french people arent as wise &knowledgeable as senator JEAN-LUC MELENCHON.

[jkuang]

The French screw up big time this time. They were sold by the Anglo-Saxxon completely (US, Brits and Germans) with the rosy prospect of gaining more political and trade chips against China.

The US and Brits just simple let the torch went through relatively peacefully and now the French is the bad guy.

Dumb!

>>>>

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[timeesprit]

you can boycott as much as you can ! French trade with China count 1% !!!

[freeskyz]

Finally we have a French who has a brain and knows some World history!

[CEDRICKB]

very useful comment...

[google2com]

finally, a man who actually has a brain

[Antoinedicorato]

vive la chine!

[yomamaapplepie]

smart guy sees things with his heart, not his eyes. right on jean!all you protesters, please read useful books, study the history, learn how to think smartly from the great thinkers: aristotle and socrates...then speak with your own thought, don't act violently, don't abuse human right. the beijing bird's nest olympic stadium is designed by a french architect and built by the chinese. it is such a great beauty. the french-chinese friendship should not be destroyed by the evil incidents.

[craZHEYan]

Go Jean-Luc Melenchon!

[Michael6Liu]

I like this guy. If he runs for PM in Canada, I'll vote for him too!

[GermaineIlya]

u mean the standard of living is low? may be it is because the western countries had been keeping invading, drugging with opium and robbing China since 19th century till communists took power?

Do yr own research if u don't believe me

[GermaineIlya]

very objective,nice speech

[realityczech1]

Finally! Someone has equated the problems with a Muslim theocracy to the problems of a Buddhist theocracy!! Diverse peoples cannot be governed by a religious belief system which does not allow for different opinions to be explored.

[comm11]

This is one reason why boycotting French goods and Anti-French protests are unwise.

[espgnw]

what eles can i say? VOTE HIM!

[UCLouvain]

Mélenchon Président~~Mélenchon Président~~

[nomorelience314]

well-informed, persuasive, elequent, and powerful, making his oppenents moronic and laughable. It is a pity most westerners do not even know where Xizang is and what theorcacy is. Just watched CBC reporter asking pro-lama demonstrators where Xizang is. They looked at a map and pointed one wrong place after another; yet they were fighting for a "Free Tibet" for a lama.

[sebsy]

Xizang?? the only people who can locate the mythical land of Xizang are the chinese. Many westerners not understanding mandarin won't have a clue what you are talking about. however, many can locate Tibet on a map. Are you able to locate Pö on a map?

[nomorelience314]

Unfortunately, the reporter asked in English and used "Tibet." He asked one pro-lama demonstrator after another only to get more and more frustralted. If you do not know what Xizang or Zangren mean, I feel sorry for you.

[sebsy]

obviously English is your second language because for some reason you think I don't know what 'Xizang' means. Have you even been to Tibet or as you say, 'Xizang'? The problem with people like you is you follow your government like a sheep. Chinese people need to stand up against their disgusting government! I'm sure a billion people can overthrow a handful of insecure, image conscious government retards. Maybe people should also be shouting Free China!

[fatcowie]

Get a life mate. the more u talk, the more u make urself sounds like an idiot in front of public. after all of that, it's none of ur fXckin business, lol!

[sebsy]

None of my business? So i should be an ignorant asshole like you? No thanks. Sorry FatCow, you're the one who needs to get a life - perhaps start by looking outside your own insignificant existence?

[4485lolo]

i wonder if you are feeling happy in your little cocoon

[powerdgood]

French government is a shameless government.

French government was slapping its own face in front of the world if it has got any at all.

But this man is awesome.

[salahidin]

Abolition of slavery in 1959...

But slavery still exist in China, that's what make their goods so cheap!

[whitespideralex]

OMG you are so pathetic and ignorant.

[ashleyjwf]

u absolutely have no idea what "slave" meant in old Tibet.....

[sebsy]

and obviously you do because you were there! Have you ever been to Tibet? Can you even locate it on a map?

[ashleyjwf]

sorry, the "u" is salahidin.

Mr. Mélenchon, you are really great.

[kayuraaa]

To Salahidin:

R u high or r u incredibly stupid?

[wangyuzhang]

He is a real French!!!

Welcome him to China!!!

welcome!  Thanks!!!

[vonleixy]

i admire his courage to speak against many. also this is the most objective review i've seen in the western media.

[fanalang]

can you guys still see this video? I can see other normal ones but not this one...is it deleted by youtube?

[madeyez]

WELL SAID!! Please be president of my country!

[chiplei]

very good, say thing with facts

[saigonpunkid]

Haha Tintin...Chang would be proud.

[lyx776]

Finally someone non-chinese speaks out for Chinese ppl! he is very fair! I hope those anti-Chinese ppl can acutally spend time listening to what he said and think about it! It's time to pay Chinese some respect!

[sebsy]

You are blindfolded to what the chinese government is doing to other cultures and people, and you ask for respect? You and other chinese will be respected when you can see your government for what it really is. Following them like a sheep deserves no respect!

[lyx776]

stop talking about 'blindfolded' when you are so biased yourself. maybe it's your time to start looking at everything from a different angle! seriously, get a life or a book! don't just follow what 'richard gere' or sharon stone says like a sheep! oh well, it doesn't matter, i don't have any respect for you anyway.

[sebsy]

Who said anything about following Richard Gere? "get a book", well I have, and they all say the Chinese govt, much like yourself, is a nasty piece of work. Do I look bothered that some lowlife stooge like yourself has no respect for me?? I don't think so slick! Learn the real facts, then make comments - otherwise you just sound like a moron (or more like one). Stay in your nice little cocoon of ignorance.

[TaiwanOwnsChina]

very clever politician indeed. he is seeking to mint money now that he has praised the communists. they reward him will gold biscuits and a pat on the head.

[boovoerx]

please give your counter argument to his points before making any conclusion about him.

[whitespideralex]

wicked minds think of wicked deals

[toloveanddie]

I LIKE THIS WISE MAN!

[zkd5731727]

A very clever senator,but tooo bad that usa and other anti-china countries will target him. the CIA or fbi will either killl him or let him vanish. and make up some bullshit like when Che Guevara died

[ufelix]

"DO we ALL agree to admire a 8 years' old child in the temple?" A GREAT POINT!!!!

Or do we all like to put a Dalai's or Mao's sketch in our home and admire them everyday? That is TOTALLY out of date.

[Ilikelemontea]

great!!!!!!!!!

[turbobuster00]

haha..he is the type of leftist socialist that defended Mao's great leap forward!!! He is still talking about the Chinese revolution!!! Fortunately there are less and less of these extremist socialists left in the west...these former communists have bloody hands too...

[keicee0424]

i see that he uses Chinese revolution to describe part of chinese history in order to be against that people who try to say Tibet was an indepandent country. by the way, even we are chinese, we dont beleive in Mao and his ideas any more. ur information is out of date. hehe

grat to talk with u.

[turbobuster00]

keicee, I know you dont believe in it, but this western guy does...

[boovoerx]

he is talking about the revolution in Tibet that overwhelm the slavery society ~

[kayuraaa]

As if u westerners r clean as mother terrassa. How about Iraq? Or do some research. See what u westerners were doing to the oriental countries and ppl from 18th to the early 20th century. U guys were bloody as hell.

I don't like Mao. But, as least he brought our country together and helped kick ur westerners' stupid asses outta China.

[driubi]

mother teresa wasn't really that clean - most of the money donated to her went to spreading the religion, not helping poor people - the conditions in her homes were awful and the dying's family was even prevented from visiting them.

[melodie0223]

bravo,merci de dire la verité.combien de fraçais sait l'histoire de la chine?je dois dire que tibet was,is and always will be a part of China

[scotgame]

very clever politican

[boovoerx]

Thank you Senator J. Melenchon!Thank you for your braveness!!Thank you for telling the truth!!!I start to feel French are friendly again!

[bebechristy]

thanks to you, who knows the history and the truth!!!

[jyang727]

Bravo...first French man I heard that is fair on it since the issues started.

[geekydude]

someone who's not misinformed, enfin!

[jeimlm]

clear,fair, and well said,

awesome!!!