You still have the right to die! They said indefinite detention, but that doesn't mean that they won't torture you to death..., so you still have the right to die, stop bitching!!!
Why is so hard for the rest of these politicians see what Merkley sees? I contacted my two Texas Senators.
Cornyn said the President needed these powers.
Hutchinson said that no American citizens could be held under 1031 and 1032. She said expert legal minds had told her these provisions did not apply to American citizens.
So Cornyn is fascist and Hutchinson is just plain ignorant.
a note to all in new hampshire..Kelly "Jack Ass" Ayotte voted yes to this..she also helped FEMA build a dention site in NH..DO NOT vote for her re-election!!
Wrapping up the political direction of the US over the past 10 or so years: The rich are to be much more rich and the poor much poorer than ever. Food, and freedom are to be restricted. I reckon the US wants to be China; masses of nearly slave labor directed (aka owned) by the choosen rich owners. Occupiers who are protesting the above are being brutally stamped out. What the hell?
how can one hope to reach the Supreme Court Justices to set precedent when any calls, telegrams, and uncensored correspondence can be denied by the regime?
this bill allows for incarceration and relocation without representation to any and all contacts. Read all implications of the 'loose' wording in this bill. Please share to those that might not understand this new reality.
Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law? They gather themselves together against the soul of the righteous, and condemn the innocent blood. But the LORD is my defence; and my God is the rock of my refuge. And he shall bring upon them their own iniquity, and shall cut them off in their own wickedness; yea, the LORD our God shall cut them off.
HERE IS THE WEBSITE! AMERICANS HELP VETO THIS BILL! DELETE THE SPACES BETWEEN EACH LETTER SO THE LINK WILL WORK! YOUTUBE WON'T ALLOW POSTINGS OF ANY DIRECT LINK! THUMBS UP SO EVERYONE CAN SEE!
EVERYONE!!! Go to the white house's website to sign a petition to VETO this bill.
WH homepage Select (We the People) tab, then Select (Open Petitions) tab. Scroll down till you see (Veto the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012...) SIGN IT!
THUMBS THIS UP!!
Google: white house account
(If it doesnt let u setup your WH acct on the petition page)
Use FACEBOOK, YOUTUBE, TWITTER, whatever.
We need 25,000 signatures by Dec 30. So far we have about 3,800 now. Please Help!!
Carl Levin is one of the Senators here in Michigan. It pains me to know that he's the co-founder behind this bill along with Senator McCain. I heard about this bill from NewGrounds and am really upset about my Senator putting such vile details into the bill. To me this is a sign that the vast majority of the U.S. House and Senate DO NOT read between the lines of the bill, or at all. What should happen now? President Obama should VETO the bill, and Sens. McCain and Levin should be IMPEACHED!!
I'm sadden by this bill. I love America and all the freedom and rights that come with it. But making America, "the land of the free" into some kind of military base and completely ignoring the constitution. Isn't this going a little too far? Why is there people in the army? Fighting for our freedom right?! This is insane!
Thank you for having the bravery to stand up for our bill of rights, which seem to go right out the window a molecule at a time. You will be remembered for standing strong, and it is my sincere hope the others will be losing office at the next election.
This bill has been passed. If this makes it to law, the U.S. will finally crumble. People don't realize that the ambiguity in this bill was intended. If the ignorant masses don't realize this soon, we are doomed to endure a military ruled country. This bill needs to be massacred, now. Those responsible for even THINKING of drafting a bill like this should be thrown out of congress and never allowed near a position of power ever again. It is sickening to see such attacks on human rights.
@jmania21 our founding fathers have been rolling in their graves for years. Just keep buying guns and ammo and pray that we follow their example if and when it goes further. Take care my friend.
coincident i think not thees laws were made behind closed doors and very swiftly. Now peaceful occupiers are terrorist or if we have more than a week of food or what ever else they decide to come up with. Maybe if they throw us in a deep lake if we float we are a terrorist if we drown we are not. you've gone to far way to far. how can anyone be for this?
Phone The White House @ (202) 456-1111 tell Mr. Obama what you think of this defense bill. I can only hope he ( President Obama ) will veto Bill S1867 Sec. 1031. Thank you for posting.
As a proud Jeff Merkley Democrat, this is one of those issues where I'm glad Ron Paul-type Republicans and libertarians are around to say "Hey, wait a minute here."
If you fail to realize that all speech is now subject to review by perons in Executive branch, you can be assassinated.
An unnamed official in the Executive branch now decides to interpret whether you "aided the enemy" and immediately deprive you of life, whether simply for :
a) speaking of a concept on telephone calls or elsewhere, or
b) posting text of a concept online, or ...
c) locating your person in a particular location (e.g., near Occupy members, etc.)
Then charge those that voted for such unconstitutional measures for treason against the People. We will presume their innocence, but definitely prosecute!!
@tBusket I refuse to believe it. He was busy giving blowjobs to the VC officers for those 5 years. They in turn allowed him to have lots of privileges and perks. The guy is a stinking low life piece of shit. Anyone who ever voted for him has to have their brains in their ass.
For those who said "Freedom isn't Free" we can now add "And neither are we".
Does this new provision sound like a parallel to being listed as a Jew in Germany, or suspected of being a Communist by McCarthy. This could be the government's "stay in jail forever" card. They can do it freely and without evidence or due process simply by saying "enemy combatant".
@DnBPossibly Apparently the air in Oregon is higher in oxygen content or the water isn't as fluoridated as other places. Because BOTH of your Senators voted against this travesty. Good for them!
These 7 senators voted against s 1867, Let's show some support for Sen. Thomas Harken (IA), Rand Paul (KY), Thomas Coburn (OK), Jeff Merkley (OR), Ron Wyden (OR), Mike Lee (UT), and Bernard Sanders (VT). These men are the true heroes and patriots in the senate, let's give them some love. For everyone else, show them what's really important in the next election cycle.
This is what happens when the senators are trying to be in the middle of all the issues. Your forefathers setup framework of government (senators) would find it almost impossible to pass totalitarian laws like this. I think there are dark forces at play behind think and a big game of chest.
This is totally outragious!!!!!! they are stripping the very rights of all american citizens and blowing off the very constitution we hold dear!!!!! WTF????????? can you say nazism????
I am a registered Republican but a Libertairian. Thank God for Sen. Jeff Merkley and others who voted against this bill. Obama needs to Veto the entire bill and send stupid McCain and his retarded democrat friend back to the drawing board. Better yet Obama should appoint Sen. Rand Paul, and Sen. Jeff Merkley to the right job and create the correct Defense bill. If you don't already know a new bill is added every year. This year, these are the results. What else is hidden in there?
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You still have the right to die! They said indefinite detention, but that doesn't mean that they won't torture you to death..., so you still have the right to die, stop bitching!!!
Jai666666666 1 month ago
In my opinion, this man deserves re-election just for voting against this bill.
AlecBoy006V2 2 months ago 2
Feb. 3rd is the Nationwide NDAA 2012 Congressional Protest. Protests will happen at congressional offices across the country. Spread the message.
Stopthedebt 2 months ago
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RapsAlive 2 months ago
Why is so hard for the rest of these politicians see what Merkley sees? I contacted my two Texas Senators.
Cornyn said the President needed these powers.
Hutchinson said that no American citizens could be held under 1031 and 1032. She said expert legal minds had told her these provisions did not apply to American citizens.
So Cornyn is fascist and Hutchinson is just plain ignorant.
Ron Paul 2012!
budb11 2 months ago 2
a note to all in new hampshire..Kelly "Jack Ass" Ayotte voted yes to this..she also helped FEMA build a dention site in NH..DO NOT vote for her re-election!!
TheDman216 2 months ago
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93 to 7 voted for National Defense Authorization Act of
2012 Bill # 1867
7 senators this voted against abridgment of rights.
Sen. Thomas Harken (IA)
Sen. Rand Paul (KY)
Sen. Thomas Coburn (OK)
Sen. Jeff Merkley (OR)
Sen. Ron Wyden (OR)
Sen. Mike Lee (UT)
Sen. Bernard Sanders (VT).
hbhale2000 2 months ago
Bureaucrats in DC are running, and writing legislation. This is an outrage America! Simply restore the Republic!
TheWashington76 2 months ago 4
Wrapping up the political direction of the US over the past 10 or so years: The rich are to be much more rich and the poor much poorer than ever. Food, and freedom are to be restricted. I reckon the US wants to be China; masses of nearly slave labor directed (aka owned) by the choosen rich owners. Occupiers who are protesting the above are being brutally stamped out. What the hell?
mikeb2big 2 months ago
Sleeping America, thanks to the mainstream media and sports. This is how it was all lost, I hope you like tyranny, cause it is coming.
michaelsterling37 2 months ago
DISGUSTING NWO aka 'GLOBAL GOVERNMENT' UN AGENDA 21 running and ruining every FREE MAN'S life. Commies all and all traitors to the USA.
batonpatriot 2 months ago
how can one hope to reach the Supreme Court Justices to set precedent when any calls, telegrams, and uncensored correspondence can be denied by the regime?
this bill allows for incarceration and relocation without representation to any and all contacts. Read all implications of the 'loose' wording in this bill. Please share to those that might not understand this new reality.
LadyCatriona22 2 months ago
Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law? They gather themselves together against the soul of the righteous, and condemn the innocent blood. But the LORD is my defence; and my God is the rock of my refuge. And he shall bring upon them their own iniquity, and shall cut them off in their own wickedness; yea, the LORD our God shall cut them off.
(Psa 94:20-23)
Agapeforefront 2 months ago
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HERE IS THE WEBSITE! AMERICANS HELP VETO THIS BILL! DELETE THE SPACES BETWEEN EACH LETTER SO THE LINK WILL WORK! YOUTUBE WON'T ALLOW POSTINGS OF ANY DIRECT LINK! THUMBS UP SO EVERYONE CAN SEE!
EtherionSinclair 2 months ago
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EVERYONE!!! Go to the white house's website to sign a petition to VETO this bill.
WH homepage Select (We the People) tab, then Select (Open Petitions) tab. Scroll down till you see (Veto the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012...) SIGN IT!
THUMBS THIS UP!!
Google: white house account
(If it doesnt let u setup your WH acct on the petition page)
Use FACEBOOK, YOUTUBE, TWITTER, whatever.
We need 25,000 signatures by Dec 30. So far we have about 3,800 now. Please Help!!
teachmehowtodougie23 2 months ago
Carl Levin is one of the Senators here in Michigan. It pains me to know that he's the co-founder behind this bill along with Senator McCain. I heard about this bill from NewGrounds and am really upset about my Senator putting such vile details into the bill. To me this is a sign that the vast majority of the U.S. House and Senate DO NOT read between the lines of the bill, or at all. What should happen now? President Obama should VETO the bill, and Sens. McCain and Levin should be IMPEACHED!!
bub777 2 months ago
@bub777 Any of the 7opposing senators of S 1867 would be a better senator for this state than Levin now!
bub777 2 months ago
I'm sadden by this bill. I love America and all the freedom and rights that come with it. But making America, "the land of the free" into some kind of military base and completely ignoring the constitution. Isn't this going a little too far? Why is there people in the army? Fighting for our freedom right?! This is insane!
MsMinday 2 months ago
I am mad at those who voted Yea. They don't support the Constitution. It is wrong for Americans to be held without consent.
james64468 2 months ago
I am moving to Oregon now! Both Senators opposed the Bill.
Vahso 3 months ago
Thank you for having the bravery to stand up for our bill of rights, which seem to go right out the window a molecule at a time. You will be remembered for standing strong, and it is my sincere hope the others will be losing office at the next election.
Alphaphotographer 3 months ago
This bill has been passed. If this makes it to law, the U.S. will finally crumble. People don't realize that the ambiguity in this bill was intended. If the ignorant masses don't realize this soon, we are doomed to endure a military ruled country. This bill needs to be massacred, now. Those responsible for even THINKING of drafting a bill like this should be thrown out of congress and never allowed near a position of power ever again. It is sickening to see such attacks on human rights.
rockydog2040 3 months ago
The founding father's are probably rolling in their graves over this bill.
jmania21 3 months ago
@jmania21 our founding fathers have been rolling in their graves for years. Just keep buying guns and ammo and pray that we follow their example if and when it goes further. Take care my friend.
VelociRaptor93 3 months ago
DAMN IT
CavityZ1V 3 months ago
If America = Freedom... What is the name of the Country i live in now?
dogslikenocats 3 months ago 6
@dogslikenocats Im asking the same question right about now.
VelociRaptor93 3 months ago
oh yes all you who agree with this may you get inspected after your weekly shopping. Enjoy your fema camp tour
all4hewhosaves 3 months ago
coincident i think not thees laws were made behind closed doors and very swiftly. Now peaceful occupiers are terrorist or if we have more than a week of food or what ever else they decide to come up with. Maybe if they throw us in a deep lake if we float we are a terrorist if we drown we are not. you've gone to far way to far. how can anyone be for this?
all4hewhosaves 3 months ago 2
@all4hewhosaves what if we have about two years of food? LOL this is something is it not?
VelociRaptor93 3 months ago
Phone The White House @ (202) 456-1111 tell Mr. Obama what you think of this defense bill. I can only hope he ( President Obama ) will veto Bill S1867 Sec. 1031. Thank you for posting.
rocknrolldaddio 3 months ago
As a proud Jeff Merkley Democrat, this is one of those issues where I'm glad Ron Paul-type Republicans and libertarians are around to say "Hey, wait a minute here."
MichaelConrad1D 3 months ago 2
To summarize....
Sen. Jeff Merkley: "I decided to keep my office next election. Not sure about the other 93 guys."
votingronpaul2008 3 months ago 2
If you fail to realize that all speech is now subject to review by perons in Executive branch, you can be assassinated.
An unnamed official in the Executive branch now decides to interpret whether you "aided the enemy" and immediately deprive you of life, whether simply for :
a) speaking of a concept on telephone calls or elsewhere, or
b) posting text of a concept online, or ...
c) locating your person in a particular location (e.g., near Occupy members, etc.)
d) talking to his wife?
votingronpaul2008 3 months ago
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votingronpaul2008 3 months ago
RECALL ELECTIONS IMMEDIATELY!!!
Then charge those that voted for such unconstitutional measures for treason against the People. We will presume their innocence, but definitely prosecute!!
votingronpaul2008 3 months ago 2
"Enemy combatant" is the new "Enemy of the state."
peterscottfrost 3 months ago
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This is the end of the American republic and the Rise of the U.S. Empire
blkhat117 3 months ago
wtf is happening to America man
nomuscleasianman 3 months ago 4
Written by McCain, ironic how McCain spent 5 years of torture in a communist Veitnam prison without due process!
tBusket 3 months ago
@tBusket I refuse to believe it. He was busy giving blowjobs to the VC officers for those 5 years. They in turn allowed him to have lots of privileges and perks. The guy is a stinking low life piece of shit. Anyone who ever voted for him has to have their brains in their ass.
courageouslion 3 months ago
For those who said "Freedom isn't Free" we can now add "And neither are we".
Does this new provision sound like a parallel to being listed as a Jew in Germany, or suspected of being a Communist by McCarthy. This could be the government's "stay in jail forever" card. They can do it freely and without evidence or due process simply by saying "enemy combatant".
JavaMcPhearson2ube 3 months ago 3
I'm proud of my Oregon senator. Great job Jeff Merkley!
DnBPossibly 3 months ago
@DnBPossibly and Ron Wyden!
DnBPossibly 3 months ago
@DnBPossibly Apparently the air in Oregon is higher in oxygen content or the water isn't as fluoridated as other places. Because BOTH of your Senators voted against this travesty. Good for them!
courageouslion 3 months ago
@courageouslion Sure seems like it! But we're still a part of the country & screwed.
DnBPossibly 3 months ago
I am extremely proud of my Oregon Senators.
erikwick 3 months ago
These 7 senators voted against s 1867, Let's show some support for Sen. Thomas Harken (IA), Rand Paul (KY), Thomas Coburn (OK), Jeff Merkley (OR), Ron Wyden (OR), Mike Lee (UT), and Bernard Sanders (VT). These men are the true heroes and patriots in the senate, let's give them some love. For everyone else, show them what's really important in the next election cycle.
abacusparr 3 months ago 3
@abacusparr "My" senators are traitors to their office as well as the people of the place most folks call Arkansas. A couple of NWO ass kissers.
courageouslion 3 months ago
Sen. Merkley, thank you for defending the constitution!
abacusparr 3 months ago
WOW this is some scary shit!
drshlotzkin 3 months ago
I know my Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison | U.S. Senator - Texas Voted Aye, And now i know where she stands!
defkon99 3 months ago
vote them all out , everyone can understand that, before it's to late.
looking4thepast09 3 months ago
Those Seators are traitors to our nation.. Enough is enough... we got to get them out of government ASAP and take them to trial for HIG TREASON
pwpg0516 3 months ago
We have more to fear from this government then the terrorist at this point.
BonLucasful 3 months ago
can someone post a list of all the senators that supported this toilet paper bill!
shaostyle 3 months ago
@shaostyle You can find a list of the yays and nays at senate [dot] gov. Search for Vote 218 on bill S 1867. This bill was passed by 93-7.
patrick42h 3 months ago
@shaostyle type NOAA bill in google and youll find votes there you go
mikeroweRules12 3 months ago
i cant believe they even thought about having a bill like this!
shaostyle 3 months ago
forgot the 8th Amendment as well...Just sayin...
OlGreyWolf58 3 months ago
Thank you Senator Merkley for voting to uphold the Constitution.
transitionalphase 3 months ago
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This is what happens when the senators are trying to be in the middle of all the issues. Your forefathers setup framework of government (senators) would find it almost impossible to pass totalitarian laws like this. I think there are dark forces at play behind think and a big game of chest.
omen619 3 months ago
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omen619 3 months ago
This is totally outragious!!!!!! they are stripping the very rights of all american citizens and blowing off the very constitution we hold dear!!!!! WTF????????? can you say nazism????
TheDeelong 3 months ago
Is Senator Jeff Merkley still alive? Do we have word on that?
Ayelis 3 months ago
Nazi Germany and Stalin's Russia had the same laws! so USA welcom to the club. congratulation !
arka67 3 months ago
This is outrageous!!!!
avander1571 3 months ago
It's called the "Totalitarian Tip Toe" The illuminati are winning the war globally. It won't be long now.
Now the military can place you in a camp for life because they just don't like you.
JewLoco 3 months ago
I am a registered Republican but a Libertairian. Thank God for Sen. Jeff Merkley and others who voted against this bill. Obama needs to Veto the entire bill and send stupid McCain and his retarded democrat friend back to the drawing board. Better yet Obama should appoint Sen. Rand Paul, and Sen. Jeff Merkley to the right job and create the correct Defense bill. If you don't already know a new bill is added every year. This year, these are the results. What else is hidden in there?
powerandpolitic 3 months ago 23
Way to bring it Merkley.
I still can't believe people think everything is a left or right issue. It's about being American!
tommy0135 3 months ago 4
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battymomof3 3 months ago
Thank goodness for Rand Paul!
ashkaji 3 months ago
So this is how freedom is lost.
omen619 3 months ago 29
@omen619 With a 97-3 vote.
Jaenus80 3 months ago
@omen619 Freedom was lost a long time ago. This is just the icing on the cake.
JedahX21 2 months ago 2