The Alex Jones Show-Dr.Howard Hayden:Global Warming Hoax pt2

[pinkie745]

Should get him back on!

[pseudotruth]

"Yes, the polar ice caps are shrinking . . . on Mars," he said, "On Mars, the ice caps are melting and small hills are disappearing," adding that warming trends were also being observed on Jupiter, Saturn and Triton.

Hayden must realise this is utter BS, if he doesn't he's an incompetent idiot.

I don't believe he is an idiot, so he must be lying.

For why Hayden claims are wrong

Google skeptical science mars

Google skeptical science planets

[pseudotruth]

"Someone is willing to spend a huge amount of money to scare us about global warming," Hayden said. "Big money is behind the global-warming propaganda."

This is the exact revesre of the truth!

Ask yourself who looks to LOSE money when carbon fuels are outlawed?

Google:

a) Dirty Energy Money and see which energy companies are lobbying which politician

b) Smoke Mirrors and Hot Air How ExxonMobil Uses Big Tobacco's Tactics to "Manufacture Uncertainty" on Climate Change

[TRUMPHENT]

Care to elaborate? Oh, that's right, you can't. All you can do is regurgitate talking points of a defeated political party and a bronze age myth.

[TRUMPHENT]

This is amazing. More misinformation in just a few minutes than can addressed in a single YT comment. Hayden happily skips the fact that much of W. Antarctica is at or below sea level. Rain has been observed recently in W. Antarctica. That is new according to veteran Antarctic scientists..

[herbs814]

Global warming is a complete fraud. No one with any credibility actually believes in such a hysterial fraud.

[pseudotruth]

herbs814

So you cite no no evidence!

Your pathetic ignorant idiocy is noted.

[GlobalCooling2009]

Well what exactly do you mean by that?... That they have never seen it falling while looking out of a window while stationed there? That its the first time they have observed it, but don't know personally it has happened before? Or that they believe scientifically that it is a completely new phenomenon?

...See that's why I don't believe 99% of the GW propaganda, because that's it is...just opinion and belief made to look like fact.

[pseudotruth]

Just one of Dr. Hayden's claims, the others are similarly error-strewn, or PLAIN WRONG and misleading.

"We are at the lowest levels in the last 300,000 years,"

This is UNTRUE, we are at the HIGHEST levels of CO2 in AT LEAST 800,000 years [Brook 2009].

How can he be so wrong?

Is he incompetent? I don't think so.

So why are his so-called 'facts' in utter contradiction with the science? And there's a lot of it!

Has he done any professional climate research? I haven't found any record of it.

[rtljmc]

@pseudotruth you seem to be for getting that this man has no gain for what he is saying. the rest of the scientists get grants so the government can give you carbon tax . why would he do that? maybe hes right. you need to use your own brain and stop readying reports from people that twist things in there favour.

[pseudotruth]

@rtljmc

I think you have a comprehension problem. Dr Hayden's claims are wrong! They are NOT backed by the science! As for WHY Dr Hayden's makes such claims, presumably it's either POLITICAL or he's being paid handsomely. He is linked to the Exxon Funded CFACT.

Google: Exxonsecrets Hayden

According to a search of 22,000 academic journals, Hayden has not published any research in a peer-reviewed journal on the subject of human-induced climate change.

Google: DeSmogBlog Hayden

[pseudotruth]

@rtljmc

You will note that Dr Hayden makes vague claims, but he cites no actual science to support these claims. Isn't this supicious?

All his arguments are SPECIOUS. Look at skeptical science, where you fill find links to the science that debunks his claims.

[pseudotruth]

@rtljmc

"About 97 percent of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere comes from natural sources, not humans,"

This claim is completely misleading and effectively another lie.

Nature's CO2 emissions are balanced by matching carbon sinks. There would be no net growth in atmospheric CO2 due to nature alone. It is the digging-up of fossil carbon [coal, oil gas] and burning it that has increased CO2 levels.

As the isotopic ratio 13C:12C reveals.

sceptical science Human CO2 is a tiny % of CO2 emissions

[rtljmc]

@pseudotruth watch the great global warming swindle and all the things he say are backed up by british and european scientists

[pseudotruth]

@rtljmc

You have been misled. TGGWS was pseudoscience. IIRC Many of those who appeared are shills for the denial industry, exception Carl Wunsch who was quoted out of context. Furthermore, the majority of climate scientists do not agree with the multiple egregious false claims put out by the Swindle.

Google: OfcomSwindleComplaint FullComplaint.pdf

Is citing a deeply flawed mockumentary the best you can do?

So far you have used bogus claims to support bogus claims - I'm unimpressed.

[pseudotruth]

@rtljmc

Since you are obviously impervious to learning and have not listened to me, I will not be responding any further to you.

[rtljmc]

@pseudotruth george carlin globalwarming. youtube it.!

look at logic! the earth has been in ice ages and it has been a fire ball . its fine.

the earth is not going to crumble. if it was real why tax it? wake up you obama loving hippie

[pseudotruth]

These arguments are always easy to spot

First the science is made-up, cherry-picked, or a pack of lies.

Secondly this is used as proof of a giant conspiracy for world government etc., or mega-rich scientists in search of research funding for which no evidence is offered.

If Dr. Hayden has the proof to back his theories, then why doesn't he submit them to Nature for p/r and publication. Prove the science is wrong.

Or perhaps he won't because the reviewers would fall off their chairs laughing

[GlobalCooling2009]

Of course he can't because then his toxic waste dumping money men won't give him more of that lovely money that they make from clubbing baby seals!

Right?

Oh and what about global carbon tax? ...Oh sorry, how silly of me; I mean carbon credit trading scheme!

[pseudotruth]

What a shame for a scientist who has to go against his training and spout all that pseudo-scientific twaddle.

I guess the fossil fuel industry / family foundations must be paying him well!

[pseudotruth]

Keeling curve, ice cores, suess effect.

These show that the rise in CO2 are growing year on year, atmospheric CO2 is at its highest level over the past 800,000 years, and the C is derived from fossil sources.

The warming anomaly is not explained by natural causes.

Hayden can put that in his pipe and smoke it.

The rest of his arguments are as specious and dishonest.

A search shows that Hayden doesn't seem to have published any p/r science regarding climate - not a credible climate expert.

[GlobalCooling2009]

How I laughed while I watched on the TV a huge and probably very heavy anti whaling ship burn 8000 miles worth of heavy diesel fuel while failing to even save one single whale from Japanese whalers.

How very selfish I thought. Excuse the pun.

[pseudotruth]

Howard Hayden is associated with the ExxonMobil funded Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow.

He is an industry shill.

google skepticalscience for his theories debunked with links to the science.

[herbs814]

Private sector scientists are more to be trusted than the government shills that look for excuses to impose tyranny on free people.

[BraaapMan2000]

Paul Blart Mall Cop + Cliff Claven = Alex Jones

Alex Jones, the worst Fear-Monger and Corporate Shill that there is!

[dhayden7268]

Man cause global warming is a joke. It is only the large of egos of man that even allow the neodems to approach the idea that we contribute significantly to global warming.

[seaplaneguy1]

Ice core data give a false measurement and averages out peaks, which have been up to 550 ppm in the 1800's, in a 70 year cycle, forcing the average to 280 ppm. We are mid way in a cycle that started when modern day Hawauii data taking was started in 1958. These graphs were "adjusted" to look like they fit together, which they done. Core data is just more spin as they explain it.

[Vadios83]

In the 50s there were worldwide 5000 polarbears. Today there are 25000 but that only means, that there are more polarbears endangered today than ever before.

[TheMethadoneParty]

huh? ok

[Vadios83]

geeez it was a joke. making fun about those who say the polarbears are endangered cause of global warming and about to be extinguished although their numbers are growing.

[TheMethadoneParty]

thanks for clarifying

[FeynmanDiagrams]

That's more due to protecting the polar bears from being hunted than due to temperature changes in the environment.

[goon6942069]

it means that we are able to track and count more bears.

[AgnesBojaxhiu2000]

the rushie neocons will tell you to stay the course ... that global warming is a joke .. climate change is a joke ... ignore the rest of the world, go it alone ... in global warming and in iraq ... and soon after we invade iran .. go it alone ... that we can do it in iraq for another 100 years ... borrow from communist china $1.4 B/day .. but many are beginning to wonder about their credibility ... mccain admits he doesn't know much about the economy ... gold at $1010/ounce, the dollar at 99 yen

[Cliner97]

Yet more examples of the aberrant thinking of libs.

[Cliner97]

Yet more examples of the aberrant thinking of libs.

[GlobalCooling2009]

And environmentalism is clearly a propaganda arm of the left.

Not that I'll take either obviously self serving side too seriously.