@IDrinkYourMilkshake8: It's not a pure form of Wernicke's Aphasia. It's nearly impossible to have one clear disorder when it comes to brain dysfunctions.
Is this not Broca's Aphasia? Broca's Aphasia is the loss of speech generation as opposed to Wernicke's Aphasia which is loss of speech comprehension. She seems to understand speech but not generate it. Am I wrong?
@ThePresident001 Broca patients will say the right words, but they won't have any sentence structure around the words, and generally slowly with bad rhythm. Wernicke's patients usually speak with normal structure, rhythm and tone, but use made-up or wrong words, like the lady in the clip.
Sounds more like conduction aphasia than Wernicke's. She's having trouble repeating what the interviewer is saying, which is the issue presented by conduction aphasia. And her speech isn't fluent the way you'd expect from Wenicke's. But I'm not sure.
@LLY01 I meant that her speech is not fluent, though. She seems to have broken speech, whereas with Wernicke's aphasia you'd expect her to have fluent (though nonsensical) speech.
Doesn't exactly match what is taught as Wernicke's Aphasia. She shouldn't, according to text books, be able to comprehend language at all, but she should be able to speak in grammatical, but meaningless, sentences.
Obviously, it's a syndrome, and brain damage isn't localized in ways convenient to psych/neurology. It seems more like Broca's aphasia, but is likely a mix of the two. She may have been diagnosed with Wernicke's because the doctors had clues as to where her brain was damaged.
@EchoKiloIndiaAlpha Broca's aphasia you have problem actually speaking and trying to make out the words. so they stutter a lot and their speech is broken
@YetToBang actually im pretty sure it is borcas, notice she can respond to questions easily like "smiling" but has a very hard time actually saying smile, If it were wernickes she would not be able to comprehend the questions well, and would most likely be talking randomly
Wernicke's patients usually speak fluently, use right syntax and word order but come up with neologisms (words that don't exist) and tend to haste while speaking. I think this is exactly the case as she is making up new words while she's repeating the experimenters sentences...
Broca's patients should be speaking way slower, take a very long time to produce every single word and often stop speaking while in the middle of a sentence.
@30stm247 I believe the issue is that damage is done to different areas. Broca's and Wernicke's aphasia produce different symptoms. You'll notice that the patient with Wernicke's aphasia fluently produces speech where as a patient with Broca's their speech is generally broken and intermittent.
this is a little bit unusual for a patient with true wernike's aphasia, as she seems to have some understanding of what the examiner is saying. Usually this is not the case. Classically understanding AND expression are impaired.
@celinelakra I've just begun studying this subject so I'm not sure, but could it be that she does understand single words but just doesn't understand sentences, the links between words when putting them in a certain order?
this is a little bit unusual for a patient with true wernike's aphasia, as she seems to have some understanding of what the examiner is saying. Usually this is not the case. Classically understanding AND expression are impaired.
in wernickes, they can sound more fluent than in broca's but they understand less. the association part pf the brain is heavily affected. thats why they also have problems identifying objects verbally although they know what it is
it's as if someone has rewritten her language definitions in her brain and she has had microsofts sam installed into her brain ... and yeah i understand its a disorder of sorts
i believe she manifest a lesion on arcuate fasciculus, fibers that connect wernicke's to broca's area. she can follow simple instructions but she cannot repeat what is being said by the examiner.
I'm curious about something. I'm teaching a psyc class, and the textbook I'm using gives an example of a Wernicke's patient saying, "that's so Saturday hard" and "get the milk out of the air conditioner" In that case, the person was speaking clearly, but messing up words, compared to the gibberish that this lady is saying. Some people are saying this lady is a "lucky case," but she seems more severe than the cases which they are talking about in the book I'm using.
@ponczomonczo From what I've learned, they both have repetitive speech and paraphasia. The main difference is that conduction aphasics are usually aware that they have a problem with language but have a really hard time correcting it (basically can't) while Weiricke's aphasics usually are unaware of their disorder. They are very similar though.
motorboatinfun don't you get it? She has a disorder. It's not because she's dumb. She has wiring that's mixed up in her brain. It has nothing to do with dumb. You sound like the dumb one here. Get a clue.
I dont understand this. My understanding of Wernicke's Aphasia (ive read up on it for a full 3 or 4 hours now!!!) is that it affects speech comprehension. So how is she able to follow the instructions?
@IDrinkYourMilkshake8 Probably through other contextual cues, like facial expressions or vocal intonations. Speech can still convey a lot even if the words are nonsense to the listener.
@IDrinkYourMilkshake8 I agree with portsy. Also I think it has to do with the fact that Aphasia varies so much with different patients. Some are more severe than others and usually never fit a classic definition 100%.
@IDrinkYourMilkshake8 Wernicke's Aphasia is a damage to the Wenicke's Area of the auditory association cortex. She is at the stage where she can slightly understand whats going on and whats being spoken to her but she cant make sense of her sentences because she lacks concrete nouns. Her's evidently isnt completely shattered to the point where she cant identify spoken speech
Can someone explain this to me? So in her mind does she think that she is speaking in a language/answering normally? And she waits for the woman to ask her questions and then she answers, so she can still comprehend somethings? And since her ability to sort of make sense of words is impaired when she speaks, does that also mean that she cannot write coherently? And last thing, do patients ever recover from this?
@Houdini116 having wernicke's aphasia means that her wernicke's area of her brain has been damaged, most likely by a stroke. this part of your brain in the left hemisphere is responsible for speech comprehension. without being able to comprehend spoken speech and because this is connected to being able to produce intelligible speech, she basically speaks in gibberish.
My uncle had Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome.He only had about a 4-5 minute memory.He was smart and he knew things.However he had an appetite that was insatiable.He could eat a massive breakfast and be starving about an hour later.Sometimes he would spend the whole day asking the same question over and over.It was hard to see him like that.I was his caregiver for 18 months and it nearly drove me insane.My mother took over and cared for him for about 4 years untill he passed away from mouth cancer.
She's doing better than other Wernicke's aphasia patients that I've seen. She seems to understand everything being said to her which is pretty amazing.
I can only imagine the confusion and frustration that would result from this condition. I imagine they would find themselves thinking, "Why the hell can't people understand me?!" In that sense they are almost locked inside their own mind... with no way to express themselves. It's really sad. Maybe one day there will be a cure?
I see here signs of palilalia and echolalia. Besides, there is such a level of comprehension that I am not used to see in patients with Wernick's aphasia. I do would like to see her frontal lobes.
Her comprehension is fair, but her delivery of words is not very fluent. I have seen cases in which the words flow very fluently but the comprehension is terrible.
I would love to see her temporal lobe and find out where exactly she has damage.
I an puzzled to see different footage of the same disorder, and yet, every patient shows slight variations in their comprehensive aspect and their delivery.
This woman must be a lucky case.There could be a few connections left functional,as she has a tiny comprehension.Never seen a Wernicke aphasia patient to execute so good simple orders.The ones I've seen were having zero response.
@DaculDatDracu That's what I would have thought. If it was complete Wernicke's aphasia she wouldn't be able to understand the directions...even if they were written?! My guess is she understands the idea of a request to copy the speech, but doesn't actually understand the words being spoken...maybe?
@kaufmann85 Maybe there's an additional diagnosis of echolalia going on here? Seems unlikely, but I've seen some bizarre combinations manifest in my line of work.
absolutely, many many patients lose all ability to communicate in any comprehensible way. Perhaps this is in an earlier stage? I am not familiar with how quick the onset is of aphasia. I imagine it depends on what caused it (Alzheimer, medication side effect etc).
@DaculDatDracu: it's probably not a pure Wernicke aphasias. Actually, I've been taught that aphasias don't tend to show up exaclty like books describe them, that is to say, they may present mixed symptoms of different types of aphasias. This one looks a lot like a Wernicke's but shows some ability to comprehend and she can repeat phrases (so that kind of leaves conduction aphasia out of the case)
The question is: Why does she still kept comprehension signs? Is it a partial mild lesion or is it compensation cortical reparations process that allowed her to understand after a while?The anatomical support of these interesting cases like this one I would like to study
The only absolute I've come to recognize is that diseases don't read textbooks. That's what makes the transition from basic sciences to clinical skills so difficult. I'd label as Wernicke's, mainly because she speaks gibberish and seems to think that she is speaking clearly.
@DaculDatDracu Isn't Wernicke's aphasia generally due to brain damage? If so then I would guess it's likely that nearby areas of the brain would also have been affected by whatever caused the damage, and thus most people presenting with Wernicke's aphasia would also have other cognitive disabilities, which would explain why many would have a lower respose to simple orders. Perhaps this is a better example of the condition itself rather than general brain damage in which it is a result?
@DaculDatDracu she has Pure Word Deafness, she can comprehend the words because she can read the lips and she can evern hear sound however she doesn't actually know whats being said...its literally just noise to her. She can comprehend words she just cannot recognize them...Transortical Sensory Aphasia means she can hear the words and doesnt understand them...because she cant recognize its like not hearing so she has both PWD+TSA=Wernicke's Aphasia. Just TSA = WA-PWD
they can understand, but we cant understand them logically.
CrimsonButterfly749 3 days ago
At Baseball player it almost sound like she is saying Base Roos.
Maybe she was trying to say Babe Ruth.
invinciblegrammie1 4 days ago
What a sweet lady. Still, every time I see her speak it intrigues me. =)
jcs101194 1 week ago
Conduction aphasia?
g6pa 2 weeks ago
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NazarethSp 1 month ago
@IDrinkYourMilkshake8: It's not a pure form of Wernicke's Aphasia. It's nearly impossible to have one clear disorder when it comes to brain dysfunctions.
TheRubyVlogs 1 month ago 2
@mysterymeat3 no I'm sure there are other immature people that laugh at this...
AVeryNiceEverything 1 month ago 2
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I can't be the only person that literally nearly fell down laughing at this.
mysterymeat3 1 month ago
HA!
ilykitwenppltrnmeon 1 month ago
lol
100PercentOJ 1 month ago
Is this not Broca's Aphasia? Broca's Aphasia is the loss of speech generation as opposed to Wernicke's Aphasia which is loss of speech comprehension. She seems to understand speech but not generate it. Am I wrong?
ThePresident001 2 months ago
@ThePresident001 Broca patients will say the right words, but they won't have any sentence structure around the words, and generally slowly with bad rhythm. Wernicke's patients usually speak with normal structure, rhythm and tone, but use made-up or wrong words, like the lady in the clip.
thepts 2 months ago 2
Sounds more like conduction aphasia than Wernicke's. She's having trouble repeating what the interviewer is saying, which is the issue presented by conduction aphasia. And her speech isn't fluent the way you'd expect from Wenicke's. But I'm not sure.
kudasango 3 months ago 2
@kudasango Wernicke's aphasia patients can have fluent speech. It's just what they say makes no sense at all.
LLY01 2 months ago
@LLY01 I meant that her speech is not fluent, though. She seems to have broken speech, whereas with Wernicke's aphasia you'd expect her to have fluent (though nonsensical) speech.
kudasango 2 months ago
In religious circles, this lady would either be an angel from god speaking in tongues or a demon.
a10fjet 3 months ago
Doesn't exactly match what is taught as Wernicke's Aphasia. She shouldn't, according to text books, be able to comprehend language at all, but she should be able to speak in grammatical, but meaningless, sentences.
Obviously, it's a syndrome, and brain damage isn't localized in ways convenient to psych/neurology. It seems more like Broca's aphasia, but is likely a mix of the two. She may have been diagnosed with Wernicke's because the doctors had clues as to where her brain was damaged.
DemonTaoist 4 months ago 2
I thought this was Broca's?
EchoKiloIndiaAlpha 5 months ago
@EchoKiloIndiaAlpha Broca's aphasia you have problem actually speaking and trying to make out the words. so they stutter a lot and their speech is broken
YetToBang 5 months ago
@YetToBang actually im pretty sure it is borcas, notice she can respond to questions easily like "smiling" but has a very hard time actually saying smile, If it were wernickes she would not be able to comprehend the questions well, and would most likely be talking randomly
dizzdog28 4 months ago
In order to deal with the condition it is not uncommon for patients to preform in jazz bands as scat singers.
yeehc0mon 5 months ago
"Show me how you sit on a straw" - and the woman is like .....does not compute.....does not compute....
gundabalf 6 months ago
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Spudthewomig 7 months ago
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
zeekertron 7 months ago
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luxfero 8 months ago
This is so sad :(
japtalian93 8 months ago 2
@googley3
Yeah, I thought this exact same thing. I'm still confused by it...
If anyone can explain to me why this is Wernicke's Aphasia, and not Broca's I would be extremely grateful.
30stm247 9 months ago
@30stm247
Wernicke's patients usually speak fluently, use right syntax and word order but come up with neologisms (words that don't exist) and tend to haste while speaking. I think this is exactly the case as she is making up new words while she's repeating the experimenters sentences...
Broca's patients should be speaking way slower, take a very long time to produce every single word and often stop speaking while in the middle of a sentence.
Hope that helps a bit?!
Circlepitalloveryou 7 months ago
@30stm247 I believe the issue is that damage is done to different areas. Broca's and Wernicke's aphasia produce different symptoms. You'll notice that the patient with Wernicke's aphasia fluently produces speech where as a patient with Broca's their speech is generally broken and intermittent.
finalaeonx 6 months ago
this is a little bit unusual for a patient with true wernike's aphasia, as she seems to have some understanding of what the examiner is saying. Usually this is not the case. Classically understanding AND expression are impaired.
celinelakra 9 months ago
@celinelakra I've just begun studying this subject so I'm not sure, but could it be that she does understand single words but just doesn't understand sentences, the links between words when putting them in a certain order?
freubelaar 8 months ago
this is a little bit unusual for a patient with true wernike's aphasia, as she seems to have some understanding of what the examiner is saying. Usually this is not the case. Classically understanding AND expression are impaired.
celinelakra 9 months ago
is there something wrong with her brain too?
NinjaKid3000 9 months ago
@NinjaKid3000 Wernike's area IS in the brain. This area is damaged and in some ways she cannot understand what she's hearing
f4kadak 9 months ago
but it sounds like she can understand what's going on, but is talking in gibberish. so isnt this more like broca's aphasia?
googley3 9 months ago
this is adorable and sad at the same time
shmike1984 9 months ago 2
in wernickes, they can sound more fluent than in broca's but they understand less. the association part pf the brain is heavily affected. thats why they also have problems identifying objects verbally although they know what it is
tigrisx23 10 months ago
Tats seem worst than broca's aphasia
piggybank210 10 months ago
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ahlada 10 months ago
loved the vid
probiolac 11 months ago
it's as if someone has rewritten her language definitions in her brain and she has had microsofts sam installed into her brain ... and yeah i understand its a disorder of sorts
jawbraeka 11 months ago
this looks like transcortical sensory aphasia to me, which is very similar to wernicke's aphasia
Clauzinhaa 11 months ago
@Clauzinhaa I can see why you would think so based on a two-minute video.
dhaddox 11 months ago
i believe she manifest a lesion on arcuate fasciculus, fibers that connect wernicke's to broca's area. she can follow simple instructions but she cannot repeat what is being said by the examiner.
cytotexconnection 1 year ago
I'm curious about something. I'm teaching a psyc class, and the textbook I'm using gives an example of a Wernicke's patient saying, "that's so Saturday hard" and "get the milk out of the air conditioner" In that case, the person was speaking clearly, but messing up words, compared to the gibberish that this lady is saying. Some people are saying this lady is a "lucky case," but she seems more severe than the cases which they are talking about in the book I'm using.
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jigsawyouthx 11 months ago
@Jibjub1980 you should get a book about communication disorders or speech pathology. the information would be more accurate.
jigsawyouthx 11 months ago
it looks a bit like a conduction aphasia... when a person has difficulties with repeating what has been said.
ponczomonczo 1 year ago
@ponczomonczo From what I've learned, they both have repetitive speech and paraphasia. The main difference is that conduction aphasics are usually aware that they have a problem with language but have a really hard time correcting it (basically can't) while Weiricke's aphasics usually are unaware of their disorder. They are very similar though.
xAyako91x 11 months ago
motorboatinfun don't you get it? She has a disorder. It's not because she's dumb. She has wiring that's mixed up in her brain. It has nothing to do with dumb. You sound like the dumb one here. Get a clue.
Alejandroenfuego 1 year ago 59
@Alejandroenfuego She became due to this disorder.
Vojak3 2 months ago
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she so dumb!!!!
motorboatinfun 1 year ago
@motorboatinfun You are very ignorant. This woman is suffering from brain trauma.
HerberttheHisser 10 months ago
Does the lady know that she is not actually repeating the right words or doing the right actions?
RapidEyesCream 1 year ago
@RapidEyesCream They're usually unaware that they have a speech disorder or don't make sense.
xAyako91x 11 months ago
I dont understand this. My understanding of Wernicke's Aphasia (ive read up on it for a full 3 or 4 hours now!!!) is that it affects speech comprehension. So how is she able to follow the instructions?
IDrinkYourMilkshake8 1 year ago 6
@IDrinkYourMilkshake8 Probably through other contextual cues, like facial expressions or vocal intonations. Speech can still convey a lot even if the words are nonsense to the listener.
portsy101 1 year ago
@IDrinkYourMilkshake8 I agree with portsy. Also I think it has to do with the fact that Aphasia varies so much with different patients. Some are more severe than others and usually never fit a classic definition 100%.
xAyako91x 11 months ago
@IDrinkYourMilkshake8 Not all brain damage is the same. She CAN comprehend simple things, but other things are harder to comprehend.
DesireeAleece 3 weeks ago
@IDrinkYourMilkshake8 Wernicke's Aphasia is a damage to the Wenicke's Area of the auditory association cortex. She is at the stage where she can slightly understand whats going on and whats being spoken to her but she cant make sense of her sentences because she lacks concrete nouns. Her's evidently isnt completely shattered to the point where she cant identify spoken speech
ssss3mmmm 2 weeks ago 2
is this linked to tourettes?
NationalPro 1 year ago
@NationalPro nope
beantown620 1 year ago
Can someone explain this to me? So in her mind does she think that she is speaking in a language/answering normally? And she waits for the woman to ask her questions and then she answers, so she can still comprehend somethings? And since her ability to sort of make sense of words is impaired when she speaks, does that also mean that she cannot write coherently? And last thing, do patients ever recover from this?
Thanks
Houdini116 1 year ago
@Houdini116 having wernicke's aphasia means that her wernicke's area of her brain has been damaged, most likely by a stroke. this part of your brain in the left hemisphere is responsible for speech comprehension. without being able to comprehend spoken speech and because this is connected to being able to produce intelligible speech, she basically speaks in gibberish.
medstudent999 1 year ago
I'm surprised Mike Gazzaniga hasn't gotten after you for posting copyrighted material (but I am happy to see this video available to all)
EEGMan 1 year ago
Maybe it's a transcortical type of sensory aphasia? ;)
abiotyczny 1 year ago
My uncle had Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome.He only had about a 4-5 minute memory.He was smart and he knew things.However he had an appetite that was insatiable.He could eat a massive breakfast and be starving about an hour later.Sometimes he would spend the whole day asking the same question over and over.It was hard to see him like that.I was his caregiver for 18 months and it nearly drove me insane.My mother took over and cared for him for about 4 years untill he passed away from mouth cancer.
captainimij 1 year ago
She's doing better than other Wernicke's aphasia patients that I've seen. She seems to understand everything being said to her which is pretty amazing.
I can only imagine the confusion and frustration that would result from this condition. I imagine they would find themselves thinking, "Why the hell can't people understand me?!" In that sense they are almost locked inside their own mind... with no way to express themselves. It's really sad. Maybe one day there will be a cure?
xxMrBaldyxx 1 year ago
This is so interesting
musclemilker 1 year ago
I see here signs of palilalia and echolalia. Besides, there is such a level of comprehension that I am not used to see in patients with Wernick's aphasia. I do would like to see her frontal lobes.
griccioppo 1 year ago
Her comprehension is fair, but her delivery of words is not very fluent. I have seen cases in which the words flow very fluently but the comprehension is terrible.
I would love to see her temporal lobe and find out where exactly she has damage.
I an puzzled to see different footage of the same disorder, and yet, every patient shows slight variations in their comprehensive aspect and their delivery.
aheartwork 1 year ago
0:44 Tell me what noise your roflcopter makes.
Im sorry, thats not funny.
RedDawnJensen 1 year ago
it is definitely Wernicke's, the string of words indicates this, but she is definitely unusual in her comprehension.
tencake 1 year ago
This woman must be a lucky case.There could be a few connections left functional,as she has a tiny comprehension.Never seen a Wernicke aphasia patient to execute so good simple orders.The ones I've seen were having zero response.
DaculDatDracu 2 years ago 41
@DaculDatDracu That's what I would have thought. If it was complete Wernicke's aphasia she wouldn't be able to understand the directions...even if they were written?! My guess is she understands the idea of a request to copy the speech, but doesn't actually understand the words being spoken...maybe?
kaufmann85 1 year ago
@kaufmann85 Maybe there's an additional diagnosis of echolalia going on here? Seems unlikely, but I've seen some bizarre combinations manifest in my line of work.
drugchicken 1 year ago
absolutely, many many patients lose all ability to communicate in any comprehensible way. Perhaps this is in an earlier stage? I am not familiar with how quick the onset is of aphasia. I imagine it depends on what caused it (Alzheimer, medication side effect etc).
SethyMeM 1 year ago
@DaculDatDracu: it's probably not a pure Wernicke aphasias. Actually, I've been taught that aphasias don't tend to show up exaclty like books describe them, that is to say, they may present mixed symptoms of different types of aphasias. This one looks a lot like a Wernicke's but shows some ability to comprehend and she can repeat phrases (so that kind of leaves conduction aphasia out of the case)
Dexterprog 1 year ago
The question is: Why does she still kept comprehension signs? Is it a partial mild lesion or is it compensation cortical reparations process that allowed her to understand after a while?The anatomical support of these interesting cases like this one I would like to study
DaculDatDracu 1 year ago
@DaculDatDracu: That's why I am really interested in aphasias. It's really amusing how the present on the patients.
Dexterprog 1 year ago
@Dexterprog
The only absolute I've come to recognize is that diseases don't read textbooks. That's what makes the transition from basic sciences to clinical skills so difficult. I'd label as Wernicke's, mainly because she speaks gibberish and seems to think that she is speaking clearly.
WoodsMD1 1 year ago
@DaculDatDracu Isn't Wernicke's aphasia generally due to brain damage? If so then I would guess it's likely that nearby areas of the brain would also have been affected by whatever caused the damage, and thus most people presenting with Wernicke's aphasia would also have other cognitive disabilities, which would explain why many would have a lower respose to simple orders. Perhaps this is a better example of the condition itself rather than general brain damage in which it is a result?
Kateaclysmic 1 year ago
@DaculDatDracu she has Pure Word Deafness, she can comprehend the words because she can read the lips and she can evern hear sound however she doesn't actually know whats being said...its literally just noise to her. She can comprehend words she just cannot recognize them...Transortical Sensory Aphasia means she can hear the words and doesnt understand them...because she cant recognize its like not hearing so she has both PWD+TSA=Wernicke's Aphasia. Just TSA = WA-PWD
Kiamehr 1 year ago
@DaculDatDracu
Yeah, she's so fuckin lucky
pudgesfan7 11 months ago