spike if there is a problem then you need to come back. tp is funny but i miss you man. you have put so many black actors on the map. samuel l halle martin just to name a few. but tp is funny though
1st let's be clear..Spike Lee is a filmmaker and Tyler Perry is a playwright who happened to turn his plays into movies. THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE! It's just like a singer now wanting to an actress....everything isn't for everyone....I like both Tyler and Spike for different reasons..
seems to me tyler perry has more talent and the ability to amass a wider audience in such a short than spike's whole career. tyler is laughing all the way to the bank and have his audience laughing with him. Unlike Spike, Tyler demonstrated that we don't have to beg for our 40 Acres and A Mule, that we can create our own wealth than having a filmworks named one.
I like them both for different reasons. Tyler knows how to tap into the "Good Christians" pockets. what i don't understand is the same ones who were "Fighting The Power" when Do The Right Thing came out, are the same ones who found Jesus & are turning against Spike. But when something happens to negroes, we expect Spike to show up & speak out for US? hypocrites I say. Spike is an amazing FILMMAKER..Tyler is a great PLAYWRIGHT..
what we all don't realize is we have a Black President and the images that we are putting out there...we need to be more aware of ourselves. we set trends, look at hip hop..but yet we have videos on youtube of us acting like savages killing each other. I love Tyler but are we headed back to the minstrel shows..black face in black face? it concerns me. I love a great laugh but not at the expense of respect. he has his 40 acres but @ what cost?
So we have a black president? you think whites all of a sudden has changed the way they think and believe about blacks? This so called "blood-stained" banner of image we have to uphold to whites, is nerve wrecking. That's the big part of the problem as to why we are so disenfranchisesd and how we take everything white people foot up our asses. Worried about what they think instead of doing like the other ethnic groups. we are psychologically hooked on them no wonder other groups disrespect us.
@gerlsus maybe some people do worry about things like that, but screw that we need to do better for ourselves..our children, our future...we have to do better. we have to also realize that we're all human and if we don't get ourselves together, it's just going to get worse no matter who's President..
it is a culture clash as well. A lot of us up Northeast have a negative image of the culture down south. Especially coming from a place like NYC where although they have coonery as well, It's also the mecca of some real progressive mindedness.
i can come at you anyway i wish. you northerners think you better than southerners trying to impress whites. well that southern boy, tyler perry showed a northerner how it's really done. Tyler has a much wider audience and accomplished more in a short time than spike did his whole career. stop hating northerners! rhodes scholars came from the south.
...Just as I can come at you the same way I have in the past, jackass. Just the fact that you made an ASSumption about me and where I'm from only reinforces the fact that you're a bottom-feeding Tyler Perry Groupie that he doesn't even know exists.
And for the record, having a 'wider audience' and bullshit 'You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours' 'Accomplishments' doesn't equate to quality (Or even mediocre, as is the case now) Film Making.
well, you may be right because you don't come across as a northerner who are usually broad-minded, evolved people, hence their attitudes of southerners being limited and simple. You may just be a simpleton, after all. I don't care if tyler don't know me, but i am in a yahoo group where he sends us emails of his plans and updates us on things to come. That's more than what you got, bozo! You're the hater with the brain the size and a component of a rock!
you are right@YTwatcher 38. you know northerners suppresses the truth and won't admit it while we southerners are frank and direct to the point. they learned that suppressing the truth regarding an issue from whites.
Some people may say that Spike Lee is hating, but I beg to differ. There maybe a possibility he is, but at the same time Spike lee does bring up a good point in which I thought I was the only person in the world who thought that Tyler Perry's show house of payne esp is "coonery and buffoonery". It is black face with real black people. I am not hating on tyler perry cause I support his movies since they always have a message about abuse etc.
Look you fool Black people have been owning studios for years and years. I'm just saying those movies are full of shit. Not because it a faith film but because it has nothing to do with faith. His movies cater to people that are rich not projects rats like myself. The form of Godlyness but denying the Power there of.
What Tyler Perry movies were you watching because you are definitely in the minority on that. Viewers have expressed that in interviews but on award shows where Tyler Perry was honored. And speaking of FOOL take a look at what you typed, my remedial friend:
"I believe that's all Tyler got is a dress and a wig be creatity tyler. Plus He Tyler don't write that stuff a woman's scent is on it"
Tell me what the hell is creatity?The only tity i know are a pair that belongs on a woman. LOL!!!
@pastorplw I see you've sent a response about my comments about Tyler's work ... Unlike most "BLACKS" I research & read all that I can about my culture which should be evident by the comment I left! "I" personally believe only "House Niggers" flock to see those movies & a large number of the are the same "House Niggers" flocking to church, so I disagree that any person of color should poison the minds of the less knowledgeable, like those getting their understanding from a bible!
yeah that true but I have also but that doesn't make me a house nigga I don't like nothing that he doesn't because his whole style is see through. I have research my whole life I know where I am from but I disagree God didn't ask you to understand it just believe.
Spoken like a true "House Nigger". God never actually told you anything! Why is Alexander called Alexander the "Great"? How is it that Adam & Eve were the only people on this land, but their son went to the land of Nod to seek a wife? If there's a "B.C. & a A.D., why isn't there a T.L for time living? Your not much of a researching if you believe Animals from all over this globe to gather on a ship & not eat one another, you need to step your research up!
Ha Ha spoking like a real fool don't you know no man has ever won when debationg with God look at Satan because he wonder the same thing I know who I am ain't no house nigga I'm Gullah do your research theres is are thing that happen but it shall be reaveal at the judgement. Can't help that you don't believe in something greater than yourself
I don't believe I'm a fool,but I can spell correctly! I honor my ancestors far too much to just take the info the slave master gave to you "House Niggers" I'm dealing with facts & your talking about blind trust that whites gave the slaves. The Stolen Legacy, The Egyptian book of the Dead,, Blackman of the Nile ... Read something other than that book with all the Holes in it! Get strong Blackman & claim what's yours ... And stop being childish & disrespectful ... Hotep/Maat
I ain't on all that black power shit but look my brother. My cultural background is Gullah are to you it might be Giah tribe in west Africa. I'm not no House Nigga do really know what a house nigga is . Well a house nigga is a nigga that try an tell everything that he sees. "rubbernecka" in native tongue "rudi moyrt beta joia" in other words never call me out of my name if you are rightous I am a man fuck all that power shit you can take yo ass back to Africa
These disrespectful words from a bible toter ... lol
Black Power "SHYT", Take my "ASS" back to Africa ... They came before Columbus House Nigger ... Blacks were here long before others ... Once the Africans had all the Natural resources, Diamonds, Gold, Oil ... The whites had all the bibles! Now the Whites have all the natural resources & the Blacks have all the bibles! You be safe brother & I wish you look with that bible thing!
@ubrowp2 I totally agree. the movies tend to have a good message. but those big fat loud country folks on the television series makes us as a people look bad.
@GWRevolution2008 You're absolutely right. People, who aren't black, look at these fat, loud country, church folks and think that this is how black people really are.
Spike Lee needs to LIGHTEN-UP and stop all of his hating on his African American collegues!
For a man who is supposedly so focused on uplifting his people, he sure loves to attack them! In the past, he's has had vicious idiotic things to says about Whoopi Goldberg, Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock, Montel Williams, etc. The list is just too long!
Producing black comedy is NOT a damn crime! Tyler Perry has made his characters multi-dimensional and HUMAN... as well as funny.
You are absolutely right, Why does he have to bring him down. They are both great makers of movies, they just differ in a lot of ways, but as a black man why can't he just lift his fellow brotha up and be proud of making the best of his situation.
Raoul, I TOTALLY agree with you. I'm surprised at the number of black people who are so myopic, that they cannot even deduce when they are being played as a community.
Have u actually sat and watched the an entire play of his??? Honestly? Or did u say,"Ahh man with a wig, Im turning the tv"Yeah the TV show and the films kinda suck but the plays are great.
These church going blacks that don't know any better are the people that need this help the most! How about Black Film makers making movies about the lives of Heru,Hannibal,Queen Tiye,The Massai,Robert Franklin Williams,& the many others stories that need to be known! And this goes for Spike as well ...
I totally agree, but I don't that Tyler will ever do that because he's not that talented and his scaled doesn't go that high. Why not makes movies of the bible charaters that more than enough info in the bible Mel Gidson did
Spike is telling the truth....TP is entertaining but it is coonery buffoonery and sadly it is what sells.
Tanisha0782 5 months ago
Stop hating Spike...The difference between you & Tyler Perry is that Tyler is not a racist..& you are!!...Tyler speaks & produces the truth!!!....
clgriffin7474 5 months ago
Spike you are Awesome and Great Interview !!!
CarlaMills 1 year ago 3
spike if there is a problem then you need to come back. tp is funny but i miss you man. you have put so many black actors on the map. samuel l halle martin just to name a few. but tp is funny though
mjjcng8958 1 year ago
Rosewood is a great movie......I really like how humanity came to play.....
LittleModig 1 year ago
i hate those loud ass folks on those Tyler Perry TV shows too.
GWRevolution2008 1 year ago
ok tyler perry's movies and shows are pretty stupid but not everything has to be insightful.
SlighBaby 1 year ago
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Chyinese19 1 year ago
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Chyinese19 1 year ago
1st let's be clear..Spike Lee is a filmmaker and Tyler Perry is a playwright who happened to turn his plays into movies. THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE! It's just like a singer now wanting to an actress....everything isn't for everyone....I like both Tyler and Spike for different reasons..
Chyinese19 2 years ago
seems to me tyler perry has more talent and the ability to amass a wider audience in such a short than spike's whole career. tyler is laughing all the way to the bank and have his audience laughing with him. Unlike Spike, Tyler demonstrated that we don't have to beg for our 40 Acres and A Mule, that we can create our own wealth than having a filmworks named one.
gerlsus 1 year ago
I like them both for different reasons. Tyler knows how to tap into the "Good Christians" pockets. what i don't understand is the same ones who were "Fighting The Power" when Do The Right Thing came out, are the same ones who found Jesus & are turning against Spike. But when something happens to negroes, we expect Spike to show up & speak out for US? hypocrites I say. Spike is an amazing FILMMAKER..Tyler is a great PLAYWRIGHT..
Chyinese19 1 year ago
what we all don't realize is we have a Black President and the images that we are putting out there...we need to be more aware of ourselves. we set trends, look at hip hop..but yet we have videos on youtube of us acting like savages killing each other. I love Tyler but are we headed back to the minstrel shows..black face in black face? it concerns me. I love a great laugh but not at the expense of respect. he has his 40 acres but @ what cost?
Chyinese19 1 year ago
So we have a black president? you think whites all of a sudden has changed the way they think and believe about blacks? This so called "blood-stained" banner of image we have to uphold to whites, is nerve wrecking. That's the big part of the problem as to why we are so disenfranchisesd and how we take everything white people foot up our asses. Worried about what they think instead of doing like the other ethnic groups. we are psychologically hooked on them no wonder other groups disrespect us.
gerlsus 1 year ago
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Chyinese19 1 year ago
@gerlsus maybe some people do worry about things like that, but screw that we need to do better for ourselves..our children, our future...we have to do better. we have to also realize that we're all human and if we don't get ourselves together, it's just going to get worse no matter who's President..
Chyinese19 1 year ago
@Chyinese19
Amen
apples90018 10 months ago
northern and southern black culture clash
YTwatcher38 2 years ago
@YTwatcher38 ...This isn't a 'North Vs. South' thing, it's a 'Coonery Vs. Dignity' thing...
Entropy161 2 years ago
it is a culture clash as well. A lot of us up Northeast have a negative image of the culture down south. Especially coming from a place like NYC where although they have coonery as well, It's also the mecca of some real progressive mindedness.
YTwatcher38 2 years ago
you wish!
gerlsus 1 year ago
I 'wish' what?
Do yourself a favor and don't come at me sideways about someone you don't know, never will know, and doesn't even know you exist...
Entropy161 1 year ago
i can come at you anyway i wish. you northerners think you better than southerners trying to impress whites. well that southern boy, tyler perry showed a northerner how it's really done. Tyler has a much wider audience and accomplished more in a short time than spike did his whole career. stop hating northerners! rhodes scholars came from the south.
gerlsus 1 year ago
@gerlsus Spike is from Atlanta, Georgia and moved to New York.
Chyinese19 1 year ago
Well, if i'm not mistaken, Cornell West said he was from bourgeois Manhattan and went to Morehouse in Atlanta.
gerlsus 1 year ago
no doll..i saw it in wikipedia...and Spike said it in another interview also...CW did say that didn't he?..LMAO!! wow
Chyinese19 1 year ago
...Just as I can come at you the same way I have in the past, jackass. Just the fact that you made an ASSumption about me and where I'm from only reinforces the fact that you're a bottom-feeding Tyler Perry Groupie that he doesn't even know exists.
And for the record, having a 'wider audience' and bullshit 'You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours' 'Accomplishments' doesn't equate to quality (Or even mediocre, as is the case now) Film Making.
Now YOU 'stop hating' and kick rocks...
Entropy161 1 year ago
well, you may be right because you don't come across as a northerner who are usually broad-minded, evolved people, hence their attitudes of southerners being limited and simple. You may just be a simpleton, after all. I don't care if tyler don't know me, but i am in a yahoo group where he sends us emails of his plans and updates us on things to come. That's more than what you got, bozo! You're the hater with the brain the size and a component of a rock!
gerlsus 1 year ago
you are right@YTwatcher 38. you know northerners suppresses the truth and won't admit it while we southerners are frank and direct to the point. they learned that suppressing the truth regarding an issue from whites.
gerlsus 1 year ago
Some people may say that Spike Lee is hating, but I beg to differ. There maybe a possibility he is, but at the same time Spike lee does bring up a good point in which I thought I was the only person in the world who thought that Tyler Perry's show house of payne esp is "coonery and buffoonery". It is black face with real black people. I am not hating on tyler perry cause I support his movies since they always have a message about abuse etc.
Spiceycocoa 2 years ago
I believe that's all Tyler got is a dress and a wig be creatity tyler. Plus He Tyler don't write that stuff a woman's scent is on it
pastorplw 2 years ago
you must have been thinking faster than you were typing because you made about as much sense as a $7 bill.
gerlsus 1 year ago
Look you fool Black people have been owning studios for years and years. I'm just saying those movies are full of shit. Not because it a faith film but because it has nothing to do with faith. His movies cater to people that are rich not projects rats like myself. The form of Godlyness but denying the Power there of.
pastorplw 1 year ago
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What Tyler Perry movies were you watching because you are definitely in the minority on that. Viewers have expressed that in interviews but on award shows where Tyler Perry was honored. And speaking of FOOL take a look at what you typed, my remedial friend:
"I believe that's all Tyler got is a dress and a wig be creatity tyler. Plus He Tyler don't write that stuff a woman's scent is on it"
Tell me what the hell is creatity?The only tity i know are a pair that belongs on a woman. LOL!!!
gerlsus 1 year ago
@gerlsus if you don't understand what i'm saying i can clear it up for you?
Chyinese19 1 year ago
@Chyinese 19 the person that I didn't understood was pastorplw.
gerlsus 1 year ago
oooooooooohh, ok.. gotcha!! ;-)
...lol
Chyinese19 1 year ago
@pastorplw I see you've sent a response about my comments about Tyler's work ... Unlike most "BLACKS" I research & read all that I can about my culture which should be evident by the comment I left! "I" personally believe only "House Niggers" flock to see those movies & a large number of the are the same "House Niggers" flocking to church, so I disagree that any person of color should poison the minds of the less knowledgeable, like those getting their understanding from a bible!
MrSamidPtah 1 year ago
yeah that true but I have also but that doesn't make me a house nigga I don't like nothing that he doesn't because his whole style is see through. I have research my whole life I know where I am from but I disagree God didn't ask you to understand it just believe.
pastorplw 1 year ago
Spoken like a true "House Nigger". God never actually told you anything! Why is Alexander called Alexander the "Great"? How is it that Adam & Eve were the only people on this land, but their son went to the land of Nod to seek a wife? If there's a "B.C. & a A.D., why isn't there a T.L for time living? Your not much of a researching if you believe Animals from all over this globe to gather on a ship & not eat one another, you need to step your research up!
MrSamidPtah 1 year ago
Ha Ha spoking like a real fool don't you know no man has ever won when debationg with God look at Satan because he wonder the same thing I know who I am ain't no house nigga I'm Gullah do your research theres is are thing that happen but it shall be reaveal at the judgement. Can't help that you don't believe in something greater than yourself
pastorplw 1 year ago
I don't believe I'm a fool,but I can spell correctly! I honor my ancestors far too much to just take the info the slave master gave to you "House Niggers" I'm dealing with facts & your talking about blind trust that whites gave the slaves. The Stolen Legacy, The Egyptian book of the Dead,, Blackman of the Nile ... Read something other than that book with all the Holes in it! Get strong Blackman & claim what's yours ... And stop being childish & disrespectful ... Hotep/Maat
MrSamidPtah 1 year ago
I ain't on all that black power shit but look my brother. My cultural background is Gullah are to you it might be Giah tribe in west Africa. I'm not no House Nigga do really know what a house nigga is . Well a house nigga is a nigga that try an tell everything that he sees. "rubbernecka" in native tongue "rudi moyrt beta joia" in other words never call me out of my name if you are rightous I am a man fuck all that power shit you can take yo ass back to Africa
pastorplw 1 year ago
These disrespectful words from a bible toter ... lol
Black Power "SHYT", Take my "ASS" back to Africa ... They came before Columbus House Nigger ... Blacks were here long before others ... Once the Africans had all the Natural resources, Diamonds, Gold, Oil ... The whites had all the bibles! Now the Whites have all the natural resources & the Blacks have all the bibles! You be safe brother & I wish you look with that bible thing!
MrSamidPtah 1 year ago
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When it comes to less knowledgeable, pastorplw is in rare form...look at what he typed:
I believe that's all Tyler got is a dress and a wig be creatity tyler. Plus He Tyler don't write that stuff a woman's scent is on it
And has the nerve to call someone a fool.
gerlsus 1 year ago
As usual, Spike Lee makes excellent points. I enjoy Tyler's movies, but his t.v. shows really are "coonery buffoonery".
ubrowp2 2 years ago 18
@ubrowp2 I totally agree. the movies tend to have a good message. but those big fat loud country folks on the television series makes us as a people look bad.
GWRevolution2008 1 year ago
@GWRevolution2008 You're absolutely right. People, who aren't black, look at these fat, loud country, church folks and think that this is how black people really are.
gir908922 1 year ago
Spike Lee needs to LIGHTEN-UP and stop all of his hating on his African American collegues!
For a man who is supposedly so focused on uplifting his people, he sure loves to attack them! In the past, he's has had vicious idiotic things to says about Whoopi Goldberg, Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock, Montel Williams, etc. The list is just too long!
Producing black comedy is NOT a damn crime! Tyler Perry has made his characters multi-dimensional and HUMAN... as well as funny.
jediwampaoola 2 years ago
You are absolutely right, Why does he have to bring him down. They are both great makers of movies, they just differ in a lot of ways, but as a black man why can't he just lift his fellow brotha up and be proud of making the best of his situation.
AlexisMichelle94 2 years ago
because tyler perry is making far more than spike. tyler's success in film is overshadowing spike's. period!
gerlsus 1 year ago
Tyler Perry has done INFINITELY more to uplift the image of African Americans in film and television than Spike Lee EVER has!
In Perry's films, people of color are depicted with dignity and humanity, and a spirituality that is So refereshing to see.
i guess it's fashionable these days, in these cynical times, to turn ones nose up at Perry's work and dismiss it at "coonery buffoonery".
But even Perry's silliest characters have heart and spirit.
That's the reason for his enormous success.
jediwampaoola 2 years ago
@jediwampaoola
"Tyler Perry has done INFINITELY more to uplift the image of African Americans in film and television than Spike Lee EVER has!"
by portraying them as simpletons and sight-gags?
Do you have velcro shoes?
raoulthompson 2 years ago
Raoul, I TOTALLY agree with you. I'm surprised at the number of black people who are so myopic, that they cannot even deduce when they are being played as a community.
ezekielthemack 2 years ago 2
@ezekielthemack Amen to that.
gir908922 1 year ago
Have u actually sat and watched the an entire play of his??? Honestly? Or did u say,"Ahh man with a wig, Im turning the tv"Yeah the TV show and the films kinda suck but the plays are great.
wingchundragon 2 years ago
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jediwampaoola 2 years ago
I TOTALLY AGREE!!!
jswanigan2006 2 years ago
This is the inter-net ... Research them if your really interested like I did without anyone having to hold my hand!!!
MrSamidPtah 2 years ago
These church going blacks that don't know any better are the people that need this help the most! How about Black Film makers making movies about the lives of Heru,Hannibal,Queen Tiye,The Massai,Robert Franklin Williams,& the many others stories that need to be known! And this goes for Spike as well ...
MrSamidPtah 2 years ago
I totally agree, but I don't that Tyler will ever do that because he's not that talented and his scaled doesn't go that high. Why not makes movies of the bible charaters that more than enough info in the bible Mel Gidson did
pastorplw 1 year ago
good, honest interview
blacktreemedia 2 years ago 8