God's peace to you dear lady!!! I thank you for the truth! May I give you a very big virtual hug, from one true human to another. I just heard about this yesterday and now , today, I hear your wise truthful words, bless you for helping people. I wish you all the best in the world.
see im only 21 years old and I m smart enough to know that they played this video but never talked about this woman directly..If u scared to stand up for something just crawl in your corner and stay there! PLEASE STOP COMMENTING ON SOMETHING YOUR TOO LAZY DO DO RESEARCH ON (IGNORANT!) If someone is giving info to help I dont see what the problem is. Its sad to see that people are so blind they can turn down valuable help. "In the land of the blind the man with 1 eye shall be King!"
Your website is down. What kind of referrals do you have doing land patents for others. How much do you charge? How long does it take? Do I have to go to court to enforce it?
I know this is true and I appreciate you bringing it to light here in this forum. Currently I own (well they won't give me the original) deed or title filed in the county courthouse which, to my limited understanding, basically amount to real estate and not land as a whole. Therefore I could be removed from what I consider my land should I not be able to pay property tax. As I understand it I am supposed to file something with BLM in order to secure a Land Patent? Is that correct?
but there has been a moritorium on land patents for quite a long time now. land patents were issued from the u.s. government, which has not existed since 1861. so it would be pretty hard to get one without the issuer's existence.
The scam is made by banks. Banks issue amortized mortgages. You pay mostly interest until after the middle of the loan ( ie; 30 yr loan principle = interest after maybe 15-20 years. Borrower pays upkeep, taxes and insurance. Bank owns the property. Most folks don't own their homes for the full term of the loan. So the banks have been robbing folks for many years. Bank of America is especially a criminal organization. They are murderers with license.
@Falsitive My son, like you, ask me legal questions to which I can only respond "That depends." Depends on what? I need more info. For example, it depends on your grandmother's will. Let's say your grandmother was the person named in the land patent, she still owned the property at the time of her death, and she wrote a will leaving the property to you. Let's say that she died recently. Depending on the probate laws in your state, of course you can probate the will and claim the property.
You know your stuff. It's going to be VERY HARD to get people to understand this because most "CITIZENS" are not aware that there is a public (democracy) side and a private (republic) side in terms of commerce and contractual activity within the United States. That's why we have a "Bar" in place. Btw, I'm from Detroit too.
I finished reading a book entitled 'Pandora's Box', much of the book is a little controversial but the main argument is how the railroads control most of the land in this country. Have you come across anything like this?
@mrknot85 railroads owned vast amounts of the original land patents. This is probably what you are referring to. Do a patent search on the blm website and you can see how many they own.
The collapse would be because Banks & vendors in general have been denying We the People our Exemption and the Grace afforded to us through HJR-192 June 5th 1933.
They steal our exemption and deny the proper accounting of Internal Revenue.
Some of what you are saying is true but land patents are trust which ended and become fee lands which allows for eminient domain...called taxes. However, the Supreme court says its illegal for the county to assess taxes in Florida. Also check the U.S. Constituition which does not give the states any way to tender a debt but by gold or silver and anything else in not vaild or illegal.
I have been fighting fore closures with my nieghboors and my self for some time now.... town hall meetings city councils are loosing thier homes elderly , whole familys.....My God! Whare or when Do we say BOY-COTT THEM ALL! DAM-IT WE OUT NUMBER THEM HOW DID THEY ATKE POWER OVER ALL OF US! BOY-COTT THIER ASSES AND PAY ONLY OUR TAXES AS LONG AS WE GET FAIR PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW!!!!!!
I ordered her service, paid and sent in the contract. To date I have heard nothing from her. I have tried and tried to contact her to no avail. If this isn't a scam, I don't know what is. It is a shame that people exploit those who are in need of help!
Who are you? If you haven't received your land patent, the free book is available to tell you exactly how to obtain the land patent yourself. Perhaps you're a spy/mole...
How do I get this free ebook on doing land patents myself. Your website is down. Does a land pantend need to be enforced in court? How much does it cost to do a land patent?
To get a land patent, you must pay for the land with gold or silver, NOT federal reserve notes or Bank of Canada notes. You must read the contract and remove the clause stating you agree to pay tax. You can never get a land patent with a mortgage. If the land was once owned by France you can't get a land patent. Only if it was held by the CROWN. Railway land is a good place to look.
Land patents do exsist! They do not guarantee that the mortgage goes away, however, the bank can then only repo the house not the dirt that it is sitting on. Most banks do not want to move a house so...releasing the lien might be easier.
I can tell you all that I have been trying to contact Ms. Belle for weeks! I have left her emails and phone messages and have never gotten the respect of an answer. Although if you find her Myspace page, she rants and raves about how a legitimate business will return your call right away. Also, I did some snooping in the public records of Wayne County... Ms. Belle, why don't you let all of us in on the status of your lawsuit? Did you try all of your methods and still loose your house? Do Tell..
if this land patents do exist than why those million of people in foreclosure not exploiting it? seems to me this is an outright scam. if this is legal, what is the purpose why i would want to exploit this concept of outright ownership of the land, how much i have to pay for coscammers....to get this thing started? nice idea for irresponsible people for getting their properties forclosed....hahhaha!!!
@Sepero1 as I am neither pro nor con, I can only say that that sound like a M&M commercial that is aired every Christmas. Santa encounters the M&Ms . they faint and say he does exist. he faints and says "they do exist"
The scam is not in getting a land patent. The scam is that in the majority of states, land patents existed with the superior fee simple absolute to the heirs and assignees forever. Did you get an assignment of that land patent at the closing on your property? Then isn't your title clouded? If the title is clouded, who's scamming who? Am I merely exposing the fraud pervasive in the housing industry? This is why there's a recession/depression.
@ISSAY68 The scam is there is no money for which to pay a debt. If you want equity you have to put up equity. Furthermore, people don't get a mortgage from a bank, the bank gets the mortgage from you. Since it's all done in fraud the banks don't do business with you unless you're a party to a crime first, which they witness. It's irresponsible people which get a benefit and privilege of trading worthless paper thus they can't hold title.
What a joke, all incorrect and misleading info. Classic mortgage elimination scam, you should be ashamed of yourself trying to scam peaople who are already struggling to save their homes.
@scpinhb I watched the video and didn't see anything incorrect or misleading. Everything about land patents she said is true. All land was grated in the U.S. by land patents (excluding origianl 13 colonies and texas). Our ancestors held allodial title and now we are all renters. This is the scam.
Rather she can stop foreclosure is another thing, it depends on how corrupt the judge is.
thank you you are a doll.
jytomlinson1 4 months ago
God's peace to you dear lady!!! I thank you for the truth! May I give you a very big virtual hug, from one true human to another. I just heard about this yesterday and now , today, I hear your wise truthful words, bless you for helping people. I wish you all the best in the world.
Peace and much Love from Canada
MrBiejos 5 months ago
see im only 21 years old and I m smart enough to know that they played this video but never talked about this woman directly..If u scared to stand up for something just crawl in your corner and stay there! PLEASE STOP COMMENTING ON SOMETHING YOUR TOO LAZY DO DO RESEARCH ON (IGNORANT!) If someone is giving info to help I dont see what the problem is. Its sad to see that people are so blind they can turn down valuable help. "In the land of the blind the man with 1 eye shall be King!"
lilmall321 8 months ago
this is a very nice video
tahim1656 1 year ago
Your website is down. What kind of referrals do you have doing land patents for others. How much do you charge? How long does it take? Do I have to go to court to enforce it?
layed39 1 year ago
I know this is true and I appreciate you bringing it to light here in this forum. Currently I own (well they won't give me the original) deed or title filed in the county courthouse which, to my limited understanding, basically amount to real estate and not land as a whole. Therefore I could be removed from what I consider my land should I not be able to pay property tax. As I understand it I am supposed to file something with BLM in order to secure a Land Patent? Is that correct?
Rolland
rbheiss 1 year ago
land patents
aglegend 1 year ago
but there has been a moritorium on land patents for quite a long time now. land patents were issued from the u.s. government, which has not existed since 1861. so it would be pretty hard to get one without the issuer's existence.
thered702 1 year ago
Nice video.
BadassCeino 1 year ago
The scam is made by banks. Banks issue amortized mortgages. You pay mostly interest until after the middle of the loan ( ie; 30 yr loan principle = interest after maybe 15-20 years. Borrower pays upkeep, taxes and insurance. Bank owns the property. Most folks don't own their homes for the full term of the loan. So the banks have been robbing folks for many years. Bank of America is especially a criminal organization. They are murderers with license.
provc 1 year ago
My grandmother left me a land patent for a 160 acres. Does this mean I can claim this property?
Falsitive 1 year ago
@Falsitive My son, like you, ask me legal questions to which I can only respond "That depends." Depends on what? I need more info. For example, it depends on your grandmother's will. Let's say your grandmother was the person named in the land patent, she still owned the property at the time of her death, and she wrote a will leaving the property to you. Let's say that she died recently. Depending on the probate laws in your state, of course you can probate the will and claim the property.
motownbelle 1 year ago
1:13 - what she says here is very important; it applies to many topics outside of land patents.
elysianfury 1 year ago
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@elysianfury
as in? what other subjects for example? you can pm me if you like
joulian0720 1 year ago
You know your stuff. It's going to be VERY HARD to get people to understand this because most "CITIZENS" are not aware that there is a public (democracy) side and a private (republic) side in terms of commerce and contractual activity within the United States. That's why we have a "Bar" in place. Btw, I'm from Detroit too.
yankdini99 1 year ago
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ktlee26 1 year ago
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ktlee26 1 year ago
HI Anita.... Would this work in NY as well since it was part of the original 13 colonies
NYredwhiteandblue 1 year ago
detroit love. peace sister and thanx for the info
marailius 1 year ago
Wow thanks.
studentoflife01 2 years ago
I finished reading a book entitled 'Pandora's Box', much of the book is a little controversial but the main argument is how the railroads control most of the land in this country. Have you come across anything like this?
mrknot85 2 years ago
@mrknot85 railroads owned vast amounts of the original land patents. This is probably what you are referring to. Do a patent search on the blm website and you can see how many they own.
tjwestbr 1 year ago
Go head on my Sister!
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mahaffeyitidotcom 2 years ago
So much knowledge! I salute you ;)
Sleeeeve24 2 years ago
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If you live in one of the 13 colonies is there no chance of a patent??
Veggie978 2 years ago
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Veggie978 2 years ago
5 stars !!!!!!!!!
gete0 2 years ago
The collapse would be because Banks & vendors in general have been denying We the People our Exemption and the Grace afforded to us through HJR-192 June 5th 1933.
They steal our exemption and deny the proper accounting of Internal Revenue.
Thanks for this upload, how about more on this?
Signzit 2 years ago
mrs belle how can i get a land patent package from you ?
truword64 3 years ago
Some of what you are saying is true but land patents are trust which ended and become fee lands which allows for eminient domain...called taxes. However, the Supreme court says its illegal for the county to assess taxes in Florida. Also check the U.S. Constituition which does not give the states any way to tender a debt but by gold or silver and anything else in not vaild or illegal.
Choctawu 3 years ago
I have been fighting fore closures with my nieghboors and my self for some time now.... town hall meetings city councils are loosing thier homes elderly , whole familys.....My God! Whare or when Do we say BOY-COTT THEM ALL! DAM-IT WE OUT NUMBER THEM HOW DID THEY ATKE POWER OVER ALL OF US! BOY-COTT THIER ASSES AND PAY ONLY OUR TAXES AS LONG AS WE GET FAIR PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW!!!!!!
ebonyangel88 3 years ago
I ordered her service, paid and sent in the contract. To date I have heard nothing from her. I have tried and tried to contact her to no avail. If this isn't a scam, I don't know what is. It is a shame that people exploit those who are in need of help!
gtonthemove 3 years ago
Who are you? If you haven't received your land patent, the free book is available to tell you exactly how to obtain the land patent yourself. Perhaps you're a spy/mole...
motownbelle 3 years ago
@motownbelle
How do I get this free ebook on doing land patents myself. Your website is down. Does a land pantend need to be enforced in court? How much does it cost to do a land patent?
layed39 1 year ago
how about the Moors!!!
hgk13 3 years ago
@hgk13 what about the Moors?
Curiosity63 1 year ago
@Curiosity63 what about SMOORES
dtownwarrior 1 month ago
It is quite a thing to talk for ten minutes and not say anything.I don't see anything in this entire video that is of any use to any one.
doctormcgoveran 3 years ago
good information.
cyneyy3 3 years ago
To get a land patent, you must pay for the land with gold or silver, NOT federal reserve notes or Bank of Canada notes. You must read the contract and remove the clause stating you agree to pay tax. You can never get a land patent with a mortgage. If the land was once owned by France you can't get a land patent. Only if it was held by the CROWN. Railway land is a good place to look.
kartoonkidd 3 years ago
Land patents do exsist! They do not guarantee that the mortgage goes away, however, the bank can then only repo the house not the dirt that it is sitting on. Most banks do not want to move a house so...releasing the lien might be easier.
jammarbar 3 years ago
If you need help, hire a real attorney in your city. Always research people like this!
purplejade267 3 years ago
I can tell you all that I have been trying to contact Ms. Belle for weeks! I have left her emails and phone messages and have never gotten the respect of an answer. Although if you find her Myspace page, she rants and raves about how a legitimate business will return your call right away. Also, I did some snooping in the public records of Wayne County... Ms. Belle, why don't you let all of us in on the status of your lawsuit? Did you try all of your methods and still loose your house? Do Tell..
purplejade267 3 years ago
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Sepero1 3 years ago 6
if this land patents do exist than why those million of people in foreclosure not exploiting it? seems to me this is an outright scam. if this is legal, what is the purpose why i would want to exploit this concept of outright ownership of the land, how much i have to pay for coscammers....to get this thing started? nice idea for irresponsible people for getting their properties forclosed....hahhaha!!!
ISSAY68 3 years ago
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Sepero1 3 years ago 3
@Sepero1 as I am neither pro nor con, I can only say that that sound like a M&M commercial that is aired every Christmas. Santa encounters the M&Ms . they faint and say he does exist. he faints and says "they do exist"
Dbestrealestateguy 1 year ago
The scam is not in getting a land patent. The scam is that in the majority of states, land patents existed with the superior fee simple absolute to the heirs and assignees forever. Did you get an assignment of that land patent at the closing on your property? Then isn't your title clouded? If the title is clouded, who's scamming who? Am I merely exposing the fraud pervasive in the housing industry? This is why there's a recession/depression.
motownbelle 3 years ago
Ha I saw this video on fox news :)
studentoflife01 2 years ago
@studentoflife01 and you can always trust fox news...:)
tjwestbr 1 year ago
@tjwestbr No this exact video! They played this exact video on Fox! That's a big deal right?
studentoflife01 1 year ago
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ktlee26 1 year ago
@ISSAY68 The scam is there is no money for which to pay a debt. If you want equity you have to put up equity. Furthermore, people don't get a mortgage from a bank, the bank gets the mortgage from you. Since it's all done in fraud the banks don't do business with you unless you're a party to a crime first, which they witness. It's irresponsible people which get a benefit and privilege of trading worthless paper thus they can't hold title.
wind0wninja 1 year ago
What a joke, all incorrect and misleading info. Classic mortgage elimination scam, you should be ashamed of yourself trying to scam peaople who are already struggling to save their homes.
scpinhb 4 years ago
I agree, don't fall for this fast-talking huckster.
blackberryjuice1 3 years ago
@scpinhb I watched the video and didn't see anything incorrect or misleading. Everything about land patents she said is true. All land was grated in the U.S. by land patents (excluding origianl 13 colonies and texas). Our ancestors held allodial title and now we are all renters. This is the scam.
Rather she can stop foreclosure is another thing, it depends on how corrupt the judge is.
tjwestbr 1 year ago