Arnold Schoenberg - Suite for Piano Op. 25 - Part V

[MattiasXL]

I love the ending of this, haha!

[Danielguitarsp]

its very crazy, my fucking mind

[koopatrol1]

THIS IS MUSIC! I don't care what anyone says about Schoenberg, musicaly educated or not, he is FUCKING AWSOME!

[powersoftritone]

When I listen to this I feel at peace, its like watching the world spin I don't know why or how but when I listen to this I feel at peace

[krasnyploshadagain]

it's got a good beat!

[lovesGenet]

. Life began to sound like this around 1920's and it only got lless triad based. The melodies here make a lotta sense and the directions and ryhthms and flights ,speed. True musicians look for da elements.You people need to read Ive's MEMOS . Learn to think! The music is about horror and how things sound after the viennese waltz got old. Berg is even more precious .every little line speaks.

[felipevenancio]

Reminds me of Venetian Snares...

[yousttyna]

listen to POLLINI interpretations. hundred times better.

[vaibach]

meaningless music .. the heart is horrified to hear it.

[gilbertoagostinho]

@vaibach well, my heart is busy pumping blood right now.

[colourfulwithaU]

@gilbertoagostinho

Really? Mine is pumping grape juice.

[Cassius3388]

@vaibach Clearly you cannot feel pain, confusion or depression or mania, which many of Arnold Schoenberg's pieces make me feel. No other music brings such life to these feelings. Sorry you think it is meaningless.

[vaibach]

@Cassius3388 OK .. I'm saying nothing but what I feel. everyone has their tastes and preferences. So the music is.

[affablegiraffable]

i personally really like this music from a purely aesthetic point of view, I find that its able to express emotions outside the range of "tonal" music.

[fagottist]

1:21 the man deservs a medal

[theillfrisch]

i love this piece to me the (a)tonality makes perfect sense

[SeleneHellsing]

I think is a good piece of music, and it isn't a "non-sense" piece...

[schrodingasdawg]

Glenn Gould + Arnold Schoenberg = Awesome burger with a side of win fries in awesome sauce.

(I suppose that was a silly way of putting it, but Gould is one of the best Schoenberg pianists I've heard. Thanks for posting.)

[freaky011]

atonal music is like a story without a protagonist. it sounds like nonsense to me.

[freaky011]

ya? tell me a story without a protagonist then!

-.-

[flammesombres]

Short stories, poems or vignettes, etc. can obviously be written without mentioning characters. William Carlos Williams' "Red Wheelbarrow" is a good example. All I was trying to say was that it's a little silly to think that writing portraits of cities, landscapes, objects, etc. as "nonsense"

[freaky011]

thanks for replying. in williams' poem it's the red wheelbarrow which is like a character to me though. and i never said what you're accusing me of, all i did was say the music didn't make sense to me as i was listening to it.

[funkifyyourlife]

That's because you don't want to bother to put some effort into listening. I'll bet you don't like modern painters, either.

[freaky011]

well, you're wrong. i do like modern paintings.

[freaky011]

modern paintings have very little to do with atonal music by the way.

i listen mostly to keith jarrett and i don't think you could say that one doesn't need to put any effort into listening to his music.

[laurion69]

It sounds like a non-sense, because it is simply a non sense.

[freaky011]

exactly.

[morvensky]

If you don't like modern music (please don't call it atonal, it is twelve-tonal) then you don't have to listen to it. But don't call something you don't like nonsense.

By the way, I am not a big Schoenberg fan either but tat does not mean I think it is bad.

[freaky011]

I don't remember saying I didn't like modern music, all I said was I don't understand how you can enjoy listening to atonal music. And no, i'm not listening to it, i'm trying to talk to people here. twelve-tone music IS atonal, for your information.

[morvensky]

It is not exactly atonal.

Anyway, I don't see how some people can enjoy listening to Chopin nocturnes since they are so damn cheesy. People have different tastes.

And if you do not like it please just leave it alone and you don't have to come annoy people who like it :P

[freaky011]

it IS atonal. do your homework first before you open your mouth or write comments.

and thank you, i know what i can and what i can't do without you telling me -.-

[morvensky]

It has no tonal center but it follows a tone row.

[freaky011]

good job! thx for stating the obvious.

would ya like a cookie now?

-.-

[morvensky]

Yes please

[flammesombres]

It is difficult to speak about atonal and 12-tone music. "Atonal" was a term invented by the critics of the day as a means of belittling the music or implying it was unmusical. The piece does not follow a key signature, but there is a pitch hierarchy, and that is in the tone row. The very early "Atonal" or highly chromatic music seldom has such pitch hierarchies, so there ought to be at least some differentiation.

[freaky011]

atonal simply means that the music has no tonal center, that's it.

[flammesombres]

yes, but atonal and 12-tone are not the same thing.

[freaky011]

no shit.

hey, and stop picking on poor laurion, he's the only guy on my side ;)

i bet he's got his reasons for liking cortot's performance.

[flammesombres]

laurion69 has infested contemporary music comment boards since YouTube started. I'll stop picking on him when he stops trying to objectively critique music he doesn't have the capacity to understand. I'm fine with people not liking this music, but I can't stand arrogance.

And Cortot's performance is pure shit; there's no excuse for favoring it other than ignorance. Listen to Pollini's and see for yourself

[freaky011]

haha, sounds almost like you two met before.

ya, i know, cortot's performance didn't exactly sweep me off my feet either.

[laurion69]

Your brain is those of an amateur...

You have not been able to read and understand what I've told Cortot's rendition about.

It's evident that for your silly parameters if a great master mistakes some keys he cannot be considered a master anymore!

[flammesombres]

He is a master, of course, but his recording of that Chopin etude is absolutely dreadful. I understand perfectly why you like it, though; it's your own musical naivety that guides you toward it. And I would have thought that for all the time you've been trolling comment boards, you'd have at least picked up some insults that make sense. Apparently not.

[ugusmul]

what a performance

[markmando333]

great piece,,gould is brilliant

[cdpiano27]

Actually it was 2001. I played this Gigue like a virtuoso piece, and tried to think of it as the ending of the Prokofiev Seventh Sonata, even though it isn't. But I had to hold the tempo exactly, and I think I probably accelerated near the end for effect in the recital!!

[cdpiano27]

I actually played this piece in public at a conservatory recital back in 2002 from memory. It was so hard in every aspect and my teacher's teacher was a student of Schonberg. So I HAD to learn this piece!!!

[juaneco1980]

Hey! I tend to hate Schoenberg but this is quite funny, wich means it makes certain sense to me. Is this dodecaphonic? cause is not THAT bad. OMG I finally liked ONE Schoenberg´s pieces. Actually I just realized is Gould playing. Maybe I like it just cuz of Gould´s himself expression. Anyway would any of you drop a tear for this, like I would for any of Mozart´s pieces? Of course not. Not bad tho; it does makes some sense, I'll keep trying guys I'm making my fucking best.

[faustianliszt]

Did he record this more than once? I seem to remember it was a little different last time I listened to him play it

[VladekMeyer83]

I think you're right! He backs off a bit at several parts he hammered through in the recording I'm thinking of.

Sounds amazing, regardless!

[musicintheabstract]

I can't believe I've never heard the Gould interpretations until now! I have so many different versions of this suite but Gould's performance seems to breath more humanity into this usually 'dry' piece than I have ever heard before. So musically sensitive and effective!

Thanks for posting this.

[PointyTail]

My nightmare: "Say, could you memorize this Schoenberg?"

[Leibo07]

Don't worry, Gould could

(and a few others)

[tehJaR]

Hehe, i've tried, but not too hard, maybe later... It will definiteley take a few days. The problem with this piece is, that you cannot play it, without memorizing every goddamn note. Then, of course, there's the technical difficulty... Goddamn 1:24...

[Clittl15]

LOL.

[4444matthew4444]

uh.......OMG