I guess I have the best perspective here, I served in the 15 USAFAD as par of the 45 Medium Regt RA in 1973. 39 RA was in Sennelager we were in Paderborn. The guns you see here might have originally belonged to 34 Bty. Good to see these guns being used to save infantry lives but we all KNOW what they were really intended for! You did not need guided munitions for their true purpose. Now I work providing them spare parts as the carriage only is supported and it is used on a scissors bridge.
A few corrections; it was 74 Battery, the Battleaxe company, 32 Heavy Regiment, Royal Artillery. And Geordie Walsh was a Bombadier (the equivalent of a Corporal in the Infantry) not, as shown, a Brigadier!
Oh my god! That was me! My gun firing in the first Gulf war, I've never seen the footage before. Wow. (I'm the number 3, breach creature. The guy on the far side of the gun seen shoving a pole up the breach- testing for ram)
Sometimes I wish the US Army still had some M110A2s in service. Even with advanced self-propelled 155mm guns, there is something to be said for these 8" (203mm) beasts.
The 175mm M107 was impressive too. Very long range.
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The M110 Howitzer was an excellent piece of ordinance in it's time. However it required a top notch gun crew to man it. Unfortunately too many burger flipping drop outs were assigned to artillery in the 80's. I spent half of my career running Artillery repair units working on these Kings of Battle. The majority of damage was due to incompetent gun apes and track commanders to lazy to maintain there equipment and train their men. Back then a top notch gun crew was highly respected.
@Hamm0ckjames gee, then the 45th ID had the best 8" crews in the army. Our assigned vehicles were the same ones visiting units (all branches) to Ft. Sill used. IF we wanted to shoot it usually ment bringing a deadlined vehicle up...changed out a fan tower in an hour on time. 12min hip shoots steel on target first round was a good day. 8^) RA units couldn't use the FADAC as fast as our guys could do it with slip sticks and charts. Usually beat them by a round or two.
@Hamm0ckjames Brother my gun ALWAYS made the field and ALWAYS FIRED I was the driver and I spent a lot of time in the motorpool making sure my gun was right.We were a top notch crew and I took pride in that hell I still do.I spent a helluva lot of time on my PMCS and my motorpool Sgt. loved me for it.
I was on M110 crew and most of the time approximately eighty per cent of the guns in our battery were broken for various reasons, and that was in peace times.
I think this huge beast was a big piece of american junk and has outlived it's usefulness by far.
I am really glad I didn't have to go into a fight with a weapon which was so outdated, unreliable and in some cases even dangerous to the own crew.
@jolf1245 This babe is a beast. At least it was during it's time. So i cant really call it a piece of junk. Maybe it is compared to modern self-propelled artillery guns but still it's one good piece of metal considering that some countries (including mine) still use it today
Truth be told though, i'm glad i wont be on it when we get to do a firing exercise in a month. Ours are pretty outdated and somewhat damaged too. I'll be in the operations center so at least it wont blow up on me :P
74 BTY(BATTLE AXE COMPANY) 32 HVY REGT ROYAL ARTILLERY....(F SUB)... IT WAS THE FIRST GUN TO FIRE IN THE GROUND WAR... GULF 1990-1991 I WAS A GUNNER ON THIS DETACHMENT(19YRS OLD) ...I`M THE ONE WITH THE MOP....HA HA HA ..
@tannalv The point IS that when you are firing counterbattery or are firing H&I against the enemy, your FDC(Fire Direction Center) WILL know where the impact of the round is. You NEVER just fire off a few w/o knowing where they'll hit. That's why you have FO's(Forward Observers) of some kind, be it personnel with the troops or a UAV or a Scout Helo. Is 20 miles and hitting a specific vehicle in a convoy accurate enough? The 8" will do it.
@22Weijin Not really sure who you mean. The FO or the firing battery? Using a computer(was paper and pencil, then TI handhelds in the 80's, now fancy laptops) the btry can calculate MPI and the CEP will usually be broad enough to take care of problem. Still, 'eyes on the target' to adjust fire are a big help as nothing is perfect. For area targets, a 3 or 5 rd 'stomp', just to make sure............!
@22Weijin Mainly it was just elementry ballistics/ algebra and common math! Have to admit I transferred into an ARNG artillery unit (M101A1 105mm Towed guns) AFTER they had transitioned to the hand-held Texas Instruments ballistics calculators. Regardless of method used, now or back in the 60's/, you STILL have to know the basics. If you have access, best way I know of is to check for used FM's on the subject via the Web or at gunshows. That's a LOT easier than me trying to explain it!
@22Weijin They mostly use computers now but they still have to know the traditional methods (map, pen and paper) in case you are found without electricity in the field. The calculations are pretty simple. You calculate the angle the gun must have and most of the stuff you need, you find them on books with tables of numbers. It's my specialty in the army so we do that kind of stuff every day. The guys on the gun dont need to calculate anything. Just input the numbers they're given.
@tannalv Even without smart munitions of modern era, you can be surprised how much more accurate modern artillery became. But still CEP of 5-10meters is achievable only with use of smart munitions. (see "Krasnopol", "Excalibur")
the m110 is an excellent counterbattery weapon. extremely accurate and with radar and computers it can have a shell in the air back at an enemy before his first shot has even arrived. arabs have found that out the hard way. a 200 lb. shell has a way of spoiling one's day.
There is a article in the newspaper,when ever Iraqi liberation Army destroy Abrams M1, Iraqi defecate and urinate on them as a "ritual",like job is done
doesnt really matter who makes the weapons.... usa and uk are permanent allies. this is why if the challenger turned out to be better than abrams it wouldnt really bother me...t-90 on the other hand well id be pissed. but we need not worry about that mass produced scrap metal :)
Actually that looked like a P Battery, The Dragon Troop gun. Battle Axe Company was also known as K Bty which was mentioned. I was in this regiment 81-85 prior to them switching over to MLRS. I remember Geordie Walsh who they were interviewing. Glad the lads saw some action finally.
No it's 73 (The Battleaxe Company) Bty, also it is not known as K Bty, which has the honour title Hondeghem. I tell you this from a position of first hand knowledge as I was in K Bty which is part of 5 Regt RA. 5 Regt were seconded to 32 Regt during the 1st gulf war, K Bty supporting 18 Bty and P Bty supporting 73 Bty.
@richardfarrington I was in RCT 77 to 94.I was LO to 32 bringing up the ammo to the gun line. So much for third line transport. Supported your lads from 88 to 91 Dortmund Germany. Then it all went pear shaped took the money in 94 and left
It's not gunpowder but propellant, but you are right charge and shell are separate, what you are seeing is the gun being fired at charge 1, charge 2 and three just add the next bag.
in any battle even with guerrilas remeber the vietnamese and the tactics to destroy air suppport hold up support units even technological superior forces have been
defeated due to coordination to attack
depending on the enemy. though many right now are uncoordinated it dosent mean we have to tone down just for pathetic rebels for china or russia to pick on us!?
so many grunts floating around ... that piece is doomed in a high tech battlefield ... a simple A10 would sweep away 20-30 of thos+crews in a single pass ... ok, I have to recognize that afghani peasants dont have A10, do they ? ;-)
Why so many soldiers milling about? I did both my IDF active service and reserve tours of duty on one of these. But with 7 soldiers in total per barrel. 4 on the ground and 3 on top. Great peace of artillery though.
that was one of the first missions we did. If i remember rightly, we were shotting against a Regiment of D30 towed howitzers,, max range of 18 km`s ish,, ours were 32km`s. Bit of a chicken shoot really. i think we fired 72 rounds per gun on the first mission. 12 x 72,,,.... It was awesome.. It was totally unlike Germany, it was hot,, no trees., and nothing to be scared of..
The M107 was a stunning gun. Oh,, difference between an M107 n M110... Barrel, one was 175 mm, other barrel (one we had in the gulf) was a 210mm. But to us gun bunnies,, it was still a M107. Pity they never came home with us. We got back to MLRS,, and that just about ruined the comradeship within the guys
yep, very false,, i had been a gun number on the M107-110. since 1985, they were very much the biggest guns of the British Artillery up to that point. Like i said in a previous post,, the guns never came back,, so that was the last, and probably the first time those guns fired in anger at an enemy whilst in British service. And didnt they do well :)
oh and,, i just realised Kate Aidey says,"out of retirement",, my arse,, they had been in service for decades. And a big up to Tommo a Gun No1 who tried to get Kate aidey to pull the landyard,, ..she didnt so he put his arm around her n had a good grope :)
EXCELLENT ARTILLERY MADE IN BRIT--ohwaitaminute...
redreaper2020 1 month ago
I guess I have the best perspective here, I served in the 15 USAFAD as par of the 45 Medium Regt RA in 1973. 39 RA was in Sennelager we were in Paderborn. The guns you see here might have originally belonged to 34 Bty. Good to see these guns being used to save infantry lives but we all KNOW what they were really intended for! You did not need guided munitions for their true purpose. Now I work providing them spare parts as the carriage only is supported and it is used on a scissors bridge.
jcalohio 5 months ago
With these lads in Germany and Gulf supplying ammo to 32 and 39
Steam engine gunnery!
Shoot and scoot was something else to watch
The best
steve007x 7 months ago
0:23 FFFFFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ariete05 8 months ago
Hopefully when i graduate from mechanical engineering i can get to design a big ass gun. Tis my dream!
davetonia1233 8 months ago
A few corrections; it was 74 Battery, the Battleaxe company, 32 Heavy Regiment, Royal Artillery. And Geordie Walsh was a Bombadier (the equivalent of a Corporal in the Infantry) not, as shown, a Brigadier!
Bucknihilist 8 months ago
Oh my god! That was me! My gun firing in the first Gulf war, I've never seen the footage before. Wow. (I'm the number 3, breach creature. The guy on the far side of the gun seen shoving a pole up the breach- testing for ram)
Cool!
Bucknihilist 8 months ago
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thank UK troopers with american troopers were in gulf war
bestamerica 8 months ago 2
Sometimes I wish the US Army still had some M110A2s in service. Even with advanced self-propelled 155mm guns, there is something to be said for these 8" (203mm) beasts.
The 175mm M107 was impressive too. Very long range.
ReconTeam111 9 months ago 2
Is the UK going to have to bring more mothballs to fight the next war?
stalkingalizee 9 months ago
3 bags of green puts it in to space!
Ivanrico238 9 months ago
MultiCarllewis 10 months ago
If you think the enemy has more artillery and the enemy thinks you have more artillery, then your both right.
Murphys military law
funnymanseven 11 months ago
Dear Santa...
hardware199 1 year ago
@hardware199 okay we had that dear santa on like... 2000 videos..its not funny anymore!
DalmatinskiPartizan 1 year ago
Wow! My BN CDR never stood next to the guns to call a TOT. Thats what he had FDOs for.
alpha18412 1 year ago
The M110 Howitzer was an excellent piece of ordinance in it's time. However it required a top notch gun crew to man it. Unfortunately too many burger flipping drop outs were assigned to artillery in the 80's. I spent half of my career running Artillery repair units working on these Kings of Battle. The majority of damage was due to incompetent gun apes and track commanders to lazy to maintain there equipment and train their men. Back then a top notch gun crew was highly respected.
Hamm0ckjames 1 year ago
@Hamm0ckjames gee, then the 45th ID had the best 8" crews in the army. Our assigned vehicles were the same ones visiting units (all branches) to Ft. Sill used. IF we wanted to shoot it usually ment bringing a deadlined vehicle up...changed out a fan tower in an hour on time. 12min hip shoots steel on target first round was a good day. 8^) RA units couldn't use the FADAC as fast as our guys could do it with slip sticks and charts. Usually beat them by a round or two.
GrigoriZhukov 1 year ago
@Hamm0ckjames Brother my gun ALWAYS made the field and ALWAYS FIRED I was the driver and I spent a lot of time in the motorpool making sure my gun was right.We were a top notch crew and I took pride in that hell I still do.I spent a helluva lot of time on my PMCS and my motorpool Sgt. loved me for it.
korakthekiller2 1 year ago
I was on M110 crew and most of the time approximately eighty per cent of the guns in our battery were broken for various reasons, and that was in peace times.
I think this huge beast was a big piece of american junk and has outlived it's usefulness by far.
I am really glad I didn't have to go into a fight with a weapon which was so outdated, unreliable and in some cases even dangerous to the own crew.
( I could tell stories... )
jolf1245 1 year ago
@jolf1245 This babe is a beast. At least it was during it's time. So i cant really call it a piece of junk. Maybe it is compared to modern self-propelled artillery guns but still it's one good piece of metal considering that some countries (including mine) still use it today
Truth be told though, i'm glad i wont be on it when we get to do a firing exercise in a month. Ours are pretty outdated and somewhat damaged too. I'll be in the operations center so at least it wont blow up on me :P
StormbringerRuler 1 year ago
why doesn't the west use 8" hows any more???
RVQ26 1 year ago
THE BEST GUN CREW I EVER WORKED WITH......
bigdog3077 1 year ago
74 BTY(BATTLE AXE COMPANY) 32 HVY REGT ROYAL ARTILLERY....(F SUB)... IT WAS THE FIRST GUN TO FIRE IN THE GROUND WAR... GULF 1990-1991 I WAS A GUNNER ON THIS DETACHMENT(19YRS OLD) ...I`M THE ONE WITH THE MOP....HA HA HA ..
bigdog3077 1 year ago
.16-.25
ashlee2015 1 year ago
Where were these guys to protect "democracy" in Gruzia august 2008 ... ha ?
aviomaster 1 year ago
So, they shoot huge chunks of metal without knowing where or what they will hit. Nor is it accurate. So what's the point?
tannalv 1 year ago
@tannalv artillary can be very accurate. someone in the chain of command knows what they are aiming for
mdb81 1 year ago
@tannalv The point IS that when you are firing counterbattery or are firing H&I against the enemy, your FDC(Fire Direction Center) WILL know where the impact of the round is. You NEVER just fire off a few w/o knowing where they'll hit. That's why you have FO's(Forward Observers) of some kind, be it personnel with the troops or a UAV or a Scout Helo. Is 20 miles and hitting a specific vehicle in a convoy accurate enough? The 8" will do it.
ShastaPacificRoad 1 year ago
@ShastaPacificRoad wait, do they have a computer to calculate the place the round will hit or do they have to calculat it themselves?
22Weijin 1 year ago
@22Weijin Not really sure who you mean. The FO or the firing battery? Using a computer(was paper and pencil, then TI handhelds in the 80's, now fancy laptops) the btry can calculate MPI and the CEP will usually be broad enough to take care of problem. Still, 'eyes on the target' to adjust fire are a big help as nothing is perfect. For area targets, a 3 or 5 rd 'stomp', just to make sure............!
ShastaPacificRoad 1 year ago
@ShastaPacificRoad yea that is what i need to know. So when they used pencil and paper for it, did they have a specific formula?
22Weijin 1 year ago
@22Weijin Mainly it was just elementry ballistics/ algebra and common math! Have to admit I transferred into an ARNG artillery unit (M101A1 105mm Towed guns) AFTER they had transitioned to the hand-held Texas Instruments ballistics calculators. Regardless of method used, now or back in the 60's/, you STILL have to know the basics. If you have access, best way I know of is to check for used FM's on the subject via the Web or at gunshows. That's a LOT easier than me trying to explain it!
ShastaPacificRoad 1 year ago
@22Weijin They mostly use computers now but they still have to know the traditional methods (map, pen and paper) in case you are found without electricity in the field. The calculations are pretty simple. You calculate the angle the gun must have and most of the stuff you need, you find them on books with tables of numbers. It's my specialty in the army so we do that kind of stuff every day. The guys on the gun dont need to calculate anything. Just input the numbers they're given.
bab7s 1 year ago
@tannalv Even without smart munitions of modern era, you can be surprised how much more accurate modern artillery became. But still CEP of 5-10meters is achievable only with use of smart munitions. (see "Krasnopol", "Excalibur")
BitnikGr 1 year ago
@tannalv Why...? Because we can.
tebbs94 1 year ago
the m110 is an excellent counterbattery weapon. extremely accurate and with radar and computers it can have a shell in the air back at an enemy before his first shot has even arrived. arabs have found that out the hard way. a 200 lb. shell has a way of spoiling one's day.
nomadnametab 1 year ago
My favourite mobile artillery :D
CommandoFin 1 year ago
There is a article in the newspaper,when ever Iraqi liberation Army destroy Abrams M1, Iraqi defecate and urinate on them as a "ritual",like job is done
nedeljko18 1 year ago
doesnt really matter who makes the weapons.... usa and uk are permanent allies. this is why if the challenger turned out to be better than abrams it wouldnt really bother me...t-90 on the other hand well id be pissed. but we need not worry about that mass produced scrap metal :)
MegaHungrybear 1 year ago
Not British guns, America makes both the M110 Howitzer as well as the MLRS.
TheSkyIsTheLimit1000 1 year ago
Actually that looked like a P Battery, The Dragon Troop gun. Battle Axe Company was also known as K Bty which was mentioned. I was in this regiment 81-85 prior to them switching over to MLRS. I remember Geordie Walsh who they were interviewing. Glad the lads saw some action finally.
PliskinLee 2 years ago
@PliskinLee
No it's 73 (The Battleaxe Company) Bty, also it is not known as K Bty, which has the honour title Hondeghem. I tell you this from a position of first hand knowledge as I was in K Bty which is part of 5 Regt RA. 5 Regt were seconded to 32 Regt during the 1st gulf war, K Bty supporting 18 Bty and P Bty supporting 73 Bty.
I was in the Regt 77 - 94 and miss it every day.
richardfarrington 1 year ago
@richardfarrington I was in RCT 77 to 94.I was LO to 32 bringing up the ammo to the gun line. So much for third line transport. Supported your lads from 88 to 91 Dortmund Germany. Then it all went pear shaped took the money in 94 and left
steve007x 7 months ago
it's the powder charge bag i think. yeah nearly sure it is!!
Benc68724 2 years ago
what is the white ,,tampax,, for???
dodoslovensko 2 years ago
Those are bags of gunpowder, for howitzers the powder and the round are loaded separately.
YoungJim409 2 years ago
@YoungJim409
It's not gunpowder but propellant, but you are right charge and shell are separate, what you are seeing is the gun being fired at charge 1, charge 2 and three just add the next bag.
richardfarrington 1 year ago
@YoungJim409
Not powder but propellant.
richardfarrington 1 year ago
this is a staged propaganda piece, I wouldn't take anything out of this.
roachbreeder69 2 years ago
@roachbreeder69 WRONG!
PliskinLee 1 year ago
@roachbreeder69
I wasn't staged they were firing on a Iraqi D30 battery.
richardfarrington 1 year ago
@roachbreeder69 YOU ARE WRONG ...THIS IS REALFOOTAGE I KNOW BECAUSE I WAS ON THIS GUN....THANKS.....
bigdog3077 1 year ago
203s and many other equipment thats
not technological is still commom because there cheap reliable , powerful
and not prone to errors found in technology.
emhot20 2 years ago
in any battle even with guerrilas remeber the vietnamese and the tactics to destroy air suppport hold up support units even technological superior forces have been
defeated due to coordination to attack
depending on the enemy. though many right now are uncoordinated it dosent mean we have to tone down just for pathetic rebels for china or russia to pick on us!?
emhot20 2 years ago
so many grunts floating around ... that piece is doomed in a high tech battlefield ... a simple A10 would sweep away 20-30 of thos+crews in a single pass ... ok, I have to recognize that afghani peasants dont have A10, do they ? ;-)
clustergarde 2 years ago
kid you have to understand warefare! in every situation anything can happen if the enmey is capable. air cover might be
hold up air support is busy and long range missles are to important to participate in a common batte. whereever
there is somthing heavy or great local suppport by203s are needed to suffienciently suppress the enemy
common battle.
emhot20 2 years ago 10
@emhot20 I hope English is your second language or you are talking in code.
Warpath2198 1 year ago
Why so many soldiers milling about? I did both my IDF active service and reserve tours of duty on one of these. But with 7 soldiers in total per barrel. 4 on the ground and 3 on top. Great peace of artillery though.
rwallage 2 years ago
hee hee,, that was the Bty i was in,, i was there on them guns :)
scud4984 2 years ago
What targets were you shooting at that day?
AMFvideos 2 years ago
that was one of the first missions we did. If i remember rightly, we were shotting against a Regiment of D30 towed howitzers,, max range of 18 km`s ish,, ours were 32km`s. Bit of a chicken shoot really. i think we fired 72 rounds per gun on the first mission. 12 x 72,,,.... It was awesome.. It was totally unlike Germany, it was hot,, no trees., and nothing to be scared of..
scud4984 2 years ago
The M107 was a stunning gun. Oh,, difference between an M107 n M110... Barrel, one was 175 mm, other barrel (one we had in the gulf) was a 210mm. But to us gun bunnies,, it was still a M107. Pity they never came home with us. We got back to MLRS,, and that just about ruined the comradeship within the guys
scud4984 2 years ago
So the M110 was due to be replaced but not before deploying to the Gulf? which makes the reporters claim of being brought out of retirement false?
AMFvideos 2 years ago
yep, very false,, i had been a gun number on the M107-110. since 1985, they were very much the biggest guns of the British Artillery up to that point. Like i said in a previous post,, the guns never came back,, so that was the last, and probably the first time those guns fired in anger at an enemy whilst in British service. And didnt they do well :)
scud4984 2 years ago
3rd 8" Howitzer Bn, 11th Marines, RVN 68,69, An Hoa, NAC, Semper Fi
2396168 2 years ago
oh and,, i just realised Kate Aidey says,"out of retirement",, my arse,, they had been in service for decades. And a big up to Tommo a Gun No1 who tried to get Kate aidey to pull the landyard,, ..she didnt so he put his arm around her n had a good grope :)
scud4984 2 years ago
@2396168 Semper Fi Devil Dog! R Battery 5/12 MCAGCC 29 Palms 1984/87 8 inch all the way! If you can't truck it, fuck it!
stizodd 2 years ago
one round red bag ready FIRE!
novass9 3 years ago 21
@novass9 lol that's the charge its wat's going to propel the artillery shell up the barrel
DaBestFilmsEva 1 year ago
ain't it cool how they fire then depress back to zero
novass9 3 years ago
actually you come back to what we refer to as loading elevation, "load el" for short which is nominally has a quadrant value of about 64 to 78 FYI
midfi101 2 years ago