So you are one of those that really think that one MHz = MHz no matter what? How come then a Westmere core at 2.6 GHz easily beats a Pentium 4 core at 4 GHz? The same way a PowerPC core beat the Pentium III back in the days, is the answer: A radically more efficient execution pipe.
in 1998 Intel had 450 Mhz CPU's, by 1999 they had upwards of 733Mhz CPU's and 1Ghz by early 2000. IBM, Motorola weren't the most powerful at the time. Steve Jobs is constantly telling lies.
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It's amazing how many people you can win to your side with commercials.
@nicholsml You maybe right but you should never think of the Frequency. A 300 MHz SPARC CPU kicks an 800MHz Pentium 3 in the ass. I don't really know how about the PowerPC...
@darijoe Well, Apple obviously didn't *HATE* Intel, since Steve acknowledged when he announced the official Intel transition that they had been compiling and running OS X on Intel processors since day 1. (After all, OS X was descended from NeXTstep, which ran on Intel processors just fine. The earliest developer betas of OS X (then called by the codename 'Rhapsody') even ran on Intel.) It is claimed that until OS X came out, Jobs ran NeXTstep on a ThinkPad in his office at Apple.
@ehurtley Hmm that last sentence of mine was more of a joke than a statement. :) I have never worked for Apple and I concede they have not acknowledged any hatred, just a fierce competition against each other.
@JKBenchmarks 10.5 on a 450MHz G4, you can but would you want to? (rage 128, no graphics acceleration on that pretty gui either. g4 cube, runs leopard like a champ un-upgraded)
You can tell Jobs was thinking of moving to Intel since then, Intel sucks PowerPC is still the best, why would Microsoft put them in their Xbox 360 and have their Xbox engineers to work around the clock to make the old Intel based Xbox games be backwards compatiable on the 360
I wouldn't count on it. That was around 1996/1997 and during then the PowerPC was A LOT faster than Intel processors (which were the Pentium IIs). Apple switched to Intel so they could update their laptops since IBM wasn't really giving them any support on that, Microsoft moved because it was a better option for them, Nintendo and Sony use PowerPC too for the same reason.
First of all the XBox 360 is a freaking video game system. All the newer Apple computers are just that, computers.
I'm pretty sure that not everyone is going to be playing exclusively games on there computers, so they needed a chip that had all around power. The XBox engineers had to work around the fact they changed from NVidia technology to ATI.
There's some truth to what you said. When Apple was developing OS X for PowerPC, well, even from the very start, they were developing everything in parallel for Intel x86 as well. This is why there were developer releases of Rhapsody for both PowerPC and Intel x86. You can still find Rhapsody developer releases that you can run on an old Intel box. Very cool and rare fragments of computing history.
Motorola made the motherboards. In the white iBook G3s, the motehrboards burned up a lot and created bugs. I turned mine in so many times that they gave me a free iBook g4 which had just came out.
Indeed. And this has been proven time and time again. As far as no one caring in 20 years, my Quadra is 20 years old "nadav3333", many people still collect old Macs and learn from them.
Freuidan slip, perhaps? Maybe Jobs was anticipating when Apple might have to jump ship from PPC to Intel, like they finally did in 2006.
ThunderwingMatrix 7 months ago
400MHz.. wow
gerutgerut 10 months ago
hahaha HUUUGE fail.
theflatearthsociety 1 year ago
So you are one of those that really think that one MHz = MHz no matter what? How come then a Westmere core at 2.6 GHz easily beats a Pentium 4 core at 4 GHz? The same way a PowerPC core beat the Pentium III back in the days, is the answer: A radically more efficient execution pipe.
henriok 1 year ago 8
in 1998 Intel had 450 Mhz CPU's, by 1999 they had upwards of 733Mhz CPU's and 1Ghz by early 2000. IBM, Motorola weren't the most powerful at the time. Steve Jobs is constantly telling lies.
.
It's amazing how many people you can win to your side with commercials.
nicholsml 1 year ago
@nicholsml You maybe right but you should never think of the Frequency. A 300 MHz SPARC CPU kicks an 800MHz Pentium 3 in the ass. I don't really know how about the PowerPC...
Bluedino549 1 year ago
WTFFF?
vancar6 1 year ago
400 mhz....vs dual core 2.5ghz...pahahahaha
MattySP34Ks 1 year ago
@MattySP34Ks This was over ten years ago.
SlightyDisturbedNBK 1 year ago
COPPPPEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRR
ripin150 1 year ago
LOL that was funny.
DeltaPhi79 2 years ago
I did not understand what Jobs said in the video...
iCamiloTV 2 years ago
Steve said "Motorola and Intel." He meant to say "Motorola and IBM." Apple hated Intel back then.
darijoe 2 years ago 13
@darijoe Well, Apple obviously didn't *HATE* Intel, since Steve acknowledged when he announced the official Intel transition that they had been compiling and running OS X on Intel processors since day 1. (After all, OS X was descended from NeXTstep, which ran on Intel processors just fine. The earliest developer betas of OS X (then called by the codename 'Rhapsody') even ran on Intel.) It is claimed that until OS X came out, Jobs ran NeXTstep on a ThinkPad in his office at Apple.
ehurtley 8 months ago
@ehurtley Hmm that last sentence of mine was more of a joke than a statement. :) I have never worked for Apple and I concede they have not acknowledged any hatred, just a fierce competition against each other.
darijoe 8 months ago
If you look at the one on the right (The one he is referring to) it says IBM on it. IT IS A MISTAKE.
dfoggin 3 years ago
what the hell is he whearing it like a sweater vest suit thing
Doomsdesire360 3 years ago
400 megahertz? Lol.
th3sp0rk 4 years ago 4
Remember, this is a pretty old video. About 8 years old.
7031 4 years ago 4
yah, i know. just laughing about how much tech has innovated in a short period of time. Now we are at about 3 and a half Gigahertz.
th3sp0rk 4 years ago
400 Mhz? yes, can you still use it? of course! Mac OS X 10.4 can run under 400 Mhz....
iCamiloTV 2 years ago
Vista can run on a pentium 2,
but do you want to? ;)
JKBenchmarks 2 years ago 12
Yeah, but 10.4 will run well enough to work with it on a 400MHz G3. I do have a PowerMac with 450MHz G3 and it's actually usable with 10.4...
northstah 2 years ago
@JKBenchmarks 10.5 on a 450MHz G4, you can but would you want to? (rage 128, no graphics acceleration on that pretty gui either. g4 cube, runs leopard like a champ un-upgraded)
myid9876543 1 year ago
You can tell Jobs was thinking of moving to Intel since then, Intel sucks PowerPC is still the best, why would Microsoft put them in their Xbox 360 and have their Xbox engineers to work around the clock to make the old Intel based Xbox games be backwards compatiable on the 360
Dinowarrior18 4 years ago
I wouldn't count on it. That was around 1996/1997 and during then the PowerPC was A LOT faster than Intel processors (which were the Pentium IIs). Apple switched to Intel so they could update their laptops since IBM wasn't really giving them any support on that, Microsoft moved because it was a better option for them, Nintendo and Sony use PowerPC too for the same reason.
Shrimp4074 4 years ago
First of all the XBox 360 is a freaking video game system. All the newer Apple computers are just that, computers.
I'm pretty sure that not everyone is going to be playing exclusively games on there computers, so they needed a chip that had all around power. The XBox engineers had to work around the fact they changed from NVidia technology to ATI.
stonedgeek 4 years ago
don't forget the Red lights that the Box gets for unknown reasons...
VoidKeeper 4 years ago
There's some truth to what you said. When Apple was developing OS X for PowerPC, well, even from the very start, they were developing everything in parallel for Intel x86 as well. This is why there were developer releases of Rhapsody for both PowerPC and Intel x86. You can still find Rhapsody developer releases that you can run on an old Intel box. Very cool and rare fragments of computing history.
necro2607 3 years ago 2
Rhapsody on x86? I did not know that, maybe I will find it on the net and run it on VirtualPC. I could make many videos out of this.
iCamiloTV 2 years ago
I found a g3 mac in a skip
Thamasigsrp 4 years ago
nice! :D
willieturnip 4 years ago
Funny that Intel never made a G3. That's IBM's baby.
atariboy84 4 years ago
Motorola made the motherboards. In the white iBook G3s, the motehrboards burned up a lot and created bugs. I turned mine in so many times that they gave me a free iBook g4 which had just came out.
GranitW 5 years ago
ibm, intel, motorola, microsoft, who cares? :)
runn1ng 5 years ago
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exactly, who gives a fuck? Anyway... in the next 20-50 years from now, will anyone really even care?
nadav3333 4 years ago
Its called history you douche bag. You better learn from it to know where you are headed. Get a clue.
thepiratemonkies 4 years ago 3
YEs. If we repeat history, life will get worse.
drivojulianrobotnik 3 years ago 2
Indeed. And this has been proven time and time again. As far as no one caring in 20 years, my Quadra is 20 years old "nadav3333", many people still collect old Macs and learn from them.
thepiratemonkies 3 years ago 2
whoopsy!
wvziccardi 5 years ago
uh?
Hexley 5 years ago