Scion FR-S Reveal - Interview, GReddy & GT5 Data logger

[totaleclipse99]

C&D say this car base price is $26,000

Are you F*king me? 26g for a car that push 200hp?

You can get a new 370z for $30g walkout! Scion is doing down if they think this car could save their ass!

[maddmatt02]

@totaleclipse99 like the guy said, its about the driving experience(I take it as he isnt claiming it to be FAST, but will handle well). I want the BRZ myself, and even though its not FAST, its gonna be faster than my car now. plus from the reports Ive read its gonna handle WAY better as well.

[MrBallywhacker]

200 Crank horse power.. That is soooo gayyyyy

[loserwing]

this car competes with miata's and s2ks LOL but i want one imma save my money!

[c0c0asauce]

I see this car in someone garage with no engine sitting next to a 2jz and a man with a mischievous look on his face...Its about time Toyota started making a Rwd car again. Hope its not expensive though, someone has to make a cheap rwd sports car since the miata starts at $23,500.

[KevInvincible83]

All they are gonna use that data for is to void warranties!!! LOL

[100percentGetDatCash]

Subaru BRZ kills this!! That's were my money is going. Just my two cents..

[titusdrakemovies]

watch them price the MSRP at like 22K and then all u chuckle heads will want one

[houseslipperz]

For the average guy who can't afford the Lexus LFA

[Amortepec]

Wow. Does the FR-S really get 30 mpg!!!?!?!?!

[reno94587]

I wouldn't even care if the car was over $30k - its not the money. My wife wanted one so badly when the concept rolled out and this is so bland in comparison. The wheels are FUGLY on the red/introduction car.

[DietzA3]

Faction, thats a fwd compact sedan? No comparison, honda does need something but thats not it

[factionxvt408x]

I wish I wish with all my heart...to fly with dragons in a land apart? No. I'm jk. But Honda seriously needs to figure out a way to get its FD2 CTR over here (USA) to compete with this thing. There is a good market for cars like these! Don't let VW scoop up all the sales through its GTI's! Come on Honda! Get! Get!

[Lukeentertainment]

The concept was so pretty and then the final product looks like a Hyundai coupe. Shame on you Toyota!

[spectowin]

scion pre assembled tuner junk

[doctorken2k]

WHy they ruined my car? I hope it drives better than it looks.

[flamejame]

ok so now there are three Toyota FT-86s renamed into various things...

Toyota GT-86

Subaru BRZ

and now the Scion FR-S

abit annoying theres 3 versions of the same car but atleast u kno the scooby and the toyota will be better than the scion considering the scion is being released now and the other two are still being improved

[dukie827]

@flamejame Do some research, Scion didn't release this car, it's just the debut of it. It's literally the Toyota version with cosmetic changes.

[flamejame]

@dukie827 Why would i research what an American car company is doing when there are two Japanese companies doing the same thing with most of the tuning market for these cars in Japan and especially when scion doesn't even exist in my country....

[dukie827]

@flamejame You were claiming that the Scion will be crappier than the other two variants. I told you to do some research because what you said was completely wrong. You don't have to actually do the research but don't be going around saying things about cars that you don't even know the facts to.

[flamejame]

@dukie827 if people didnt say anything about cars they didnt kno the facts to then there would be very little comments on any cars unless that person actually owned to car or worked on the car so in short fuck off

[dukie827]

@flamejame It's fun talking to the immature people that end up using curse words to help define their comments. Many people have opinions about cars that they know nothing about that they talk about. Ahh...didn't think about that, now did you?

[flamejame]

@dukie827 ok if i know nothing about this car then tell me something that most people wouldnt

[chingdingdong]

@flamejame Knowledge is power. Acquire some.

[UHPdriver]

Anyone notice the production FR-S in that GT5?

[DOOM77666]

Affordable to me is 10000 haha but I'm sure it's probably going to be about/around 22000 hope so at least lol case I want one so badly

[BF703]

aes better



[MoeJae86]

Yes this "successor to the ae86 Light weight, good power to weight, daily driver, easy on the pump, fun to drive, with manual transmission form and hopefully on good terms with the insurance" will definitely be the car for me.

Could it be the era of the 80's 90's coming back? Wonder how Nissan will respond.

[iceSCREAM88]

666th video

[ricanxd]

Good explanation of what the car is supposed to be. This is a tuner/drivers car nothing else. Aftermarket support for this will be crazy.

[FrozenBlaze]

I can't tell you guys how much I hate the "Dear Santa..." comments.

Especially when they are always the top rated comments in car reveal videos.

But when I saw this one and read the stats... I said to myself "...Dear Santa..."

[marcust510]

it's ugly now..man they shouldve stuck with the concept look and design. it looks just like the subaru br-z..disapponted

[OldManPhillips]

I hope the Gran Turismo guys took pictures of the Supra and 2000GT while they were there.

Seriously, why these two cars are not premium in GT5 is BEYOND me.

[nervx]

those complaining about the downgrades on certain cosmetic features have to realise this is the base model. led headlights, touch nav, digital AC controls and so on will be upgrade options.

[grecsy]

i'd choose the Greddy version

[v0odoochild001]

Can't wait to sell my daily and get this and rebadge it as Toyota (or just get the Subaru version). Those Rays wheels look really good but probably out of my budget. I'll probably get some 17x9 RPF1's for it after they make coilovers for it.

[MikeJ0nes2000]

@v0odoochild001 rebadge all the way

[3g2000gt]

is that boxer engine n/a or turbo, at first i heard it was turbo now im hearing its n/a 

[YupImBatman]

@3g2000gt Naturally aspirated.

[CIDVICIOUS831]

kinda looks like a RX8

[clos19851]

uh we put exhaust and uhh we put interior uhhh and intake make by gredii and uhh we put tires." so u didnt do anything worth a damm " uhhh yeah it was a tough build

[alitap]

i don't want the scion frs, everybody knows that the gt86 took a shit and what came out is the scion frs piece of shit. this car is so down graded all the way to the interior and exterior. I DON'T WANT IT

[CJAEY]

@alitap

What's up with badge whores like you? Whining about the same car with a different badge. Want a Toyota GT86? Buy an FR-S, get a hair dryer, floss, and get Toyota badges.

[alitap]

@CJAEY its not even about the badge, well very little but, the frsis so down graded in quality of the interior finishing and even the headlights are not the same. very disappointed in the frs. the only good thing they have is the flat 4 boxer RR. besides that it look so crapy

[CJAEY]

@alitap

Personally I think the car still generally looks the same. How can you be too sure that the cars differ in terms of quality? Have you sat in either FR-S or GT86? From pictures alone, I think the Scion FR-S' interior looks just as good. You're right about the headlights but the argument reminds me of the whole JDM vs USDM Integra thing.

[RoarOfZonda]

holy shit... mind blown

[AFGNAV]

Stupid fucking idiot got me all excited for the car and they give me an ugly car so I can put a body kit and make it look good... Well I am not gonna buy it because I like the concept look it looked functional. But this is bullshit.. Smart move but at the same time it do the same as the Hyundai genesis... If anything maybe worse cuz it looks like shit and no performance. At least the Hyundai has some balls with the turbo.... Shame on u two companies to come out with a car with combined ideas ye

[ciriusn]

Like many already said, SUBARU BRZ, TOYOTA GT 86, SION FR-S, who's next to release the same car and pretend its something new or special?!

[ciriusn]

I hate when they do that, this is the same body as the new Bubaru BRZ!!! lamme, not bad looking but lamme move.

[sebo1990]

They should of kept the more aggressive FR-S concept body. It has too much of a Mazda look to it.

[livewoutlimit]

so toyota gt86, subaru brz, and scion? who the fk else is going to release the same car?

[metaljar02]

@livewoutlimit just toyota n subaru

[krazyhooligan]

Look the same as the Subaru BR-Z......

[KLINGY94]

GRADUATION GIFT.............i hope!!!!

[ShadesNshoes]

This car is gonna look sick with some deep dish rims!

[YupImBatman]

Guys guys guys. It's not in the horsepower alone. Think about power to weight ratio. This thing weighs what, 2700 lbs? AND good gas mileage (around 30 mpg). For what your paying, which its rumored to start at $25k, this isn't a let down at all in my opinion. Plus it's not supposed to compete with 370z's/mustangs and STi's anyway. Everyone calm down.

[Jah2070]

@YupImBatman On car and driver and the other magazines they say weight is 2800-2900 lbs. and this car's power to weight ratio is not that good (around 14). They should at least had a small turbo with horsepower near 220. That seemed reasonable. Or used a turbo charged motor in general instead of an NA.

[metaljar02]

@YupImBatman HP is not the problem, a light and good handling car is what we want. people buy new civics si and dont even have that much HP and lets not even mention TRQ plus is a FWD and they don't complaint. Now we have a affordable car and people are hating? if speed is all you want then get a 8 cyl car and shut you azz up..not u, but for the haters lol..

[e199sigma]

@YupImBatman So true, man, so true. Besides--the FR-S was designed as an homage to the AE86 Corolla. That car's engine was even MORE gutless--just a bit over a hundred horsepower out of the factory. The key for both the FR-S and the AE86 is tuning--not just of the engine, but of the drivetrain, the suspension, the brakes--it's a good car out of the box, but it has the potential to be a monster, given the right modifications. That's what this car's all about.

[YupImBatman]

@e199sigma Theres someone who knows his cars :D

[Hebert6760]

@YupImBatman fuck gas mileage im going to take that engine out burn it and put a 2jz on it and put a toyota logo

[YupImBatman]

@Hebert6760 Yes totally. Figuring as the 2jz gte engine swap would cost over a quarter of what your paying for the FR-S itself. You'll need the engine, trans, ecu, etc etc and then pay for labor. Have fun!

[Hebert6760]

@YupImBatman good news my friend , i have a daily driven 652hp 532tq 2jz in my 300zx so parts i dont have to worry about plus i dont few swaps myself and to put a rwd engine in a rwd car its like putting butter in a bread :)

[Iamwolf134]

@YupImBatman "you are so annoying you moronic horsemeat eater" "scion blows goats" "huur duur shuddafuggup yuo faggid" Is what I would anticipate some trolls would say to you.

[halokid130]

@YupImBatman i thought the price was going to start at $18k cause im on a budget and i really want this car and im not paying $25k

[halokid130]

@halokid130 im going to badge my as Toyota

[Dood1494]

@halokid130 well, the price has only been said to be "well under $30k" so anything you hear about it or think for now is merely speculation... though they may reveal more at the detroit auto show next week

[1993Ney]

Thought it would be a drifter... Then I saw the engine stats.

No torque means no fun!

[GinoJerry86]

For every one who thinks the scion fr-s looks like the Subaru brz and Toyota gt-86 (not ft-86) that's because they are 99% the same exact car!!! These 3 companies teamed up together.

[porschturb]

You ruined the concept. Toyota you had a concept that would have sold extremely well and you turned it into a miata look alike. SAD

[clos19851]

Get your constipation fart cans ready

[clos19851]

200 hp 155 tq why not just buy an integra for 5000 and a type R motor for 5000 and youll get the same shit for 10,000

[squirlybmx]

@clos19851 Because Honda's are FWD pieces of shit. By your logic, throwing a giant supercharger on a 5.0 so it pushes 500+ hp means it's just as good as GT-R or a 997 Turbo S.

[clos19851]

@squirlybmx Wtf are you talikng about I think your a little over assuming here.. And a Moron for discriminatiing a car just cuz its Badge.. 2.0 200hp 155 tq as advertised @ 25000$ vs 1.8 197 Hp 133 Tq for 10,000 Big fukin Differance...

[pavcon]

isn't this the new FT-86???

[pavcon]

@pavcon I'll answer that...

yes it is but the interior looks poorer

[ofnir123]

AM I the only one that thinks that besides a few details, this looks EXACTLY like the Subaru BR-Z?

[BrabusTKR]

They better make a freaking turbo version, I mean my slow ass 325 could probably tale this thing

[ShadesNshoes]

@BrabusTKR No it cant. 325s are slow as shit.

[BrabusTKR]

@ShadesNshoes you dont know shit, i match S2000s

[jokerfreak11]

The concept version of the FR-S looks way better, now it doesn't look aggressive at all

[lJavieR7l]

its still a FT-86 in my eyes

i want one !

[MitsuJDM99]

the front end reminds me of a LFA

[kirbienstien]

150lb ft of torque.... sad sad sad. Why build a 2700lbs car and give it no power.

[lltysonll]

Still a very good looking car.

[samanta82260]

woooww super autos bien bien

[lltysonll]

Shod have brz front but then both cars would look the same being that's the only difference.

[jake5344]

Not sure if i will but the Subaru BRZ, the Toyota ae86, or this Scion FR-S. THey are just all so different and offer different power and handling capabilities.

[DZoneTV]

I for one welcome the FR-S but I think they should've stuck with the first concept. But seeing that you can't stick with one design all the time, you have to make changes as you move closer to the debut and production date. That's the reason why the design has been constantly changed. However, I think most people are just mad at the FR-S because it's branded as a Scion. I see nothing wrong with that.

[KidWonder101]

@DZoneTV Thank God! Someone understands

[brittonray]

Weak sauce. Ive been let down

[XenoRacing]

I wonder if they'll try a Shigeno Shingo version in Japan painted Panda colored. Also the BRZ reminds me of the old corolla levin which was called BZ-R iirc? its been on my mind. anyone know what BRZ stands for?

[YupImBatman]

@XenoRacing stands for boxer reardrive zenith. Boxer engine, RWD, and idk LOL

[XenoRacing]

@YupImBatman awesome lol thanks. Zenith reminds me of a car in Saints Row 1 and 2. xD

[cnknguyen]

ill take the supra on the stand :)

[YupImBatman]

@cnknguyen Me too:)

[toymachine135]

sounds like the first guys taking all the credit for the work that subaru did. all toyota did was the design

[whatdumd]

TRD Supercharger or turbocharger?

[toymachine135]

@whatdumd i think its naturally aspirated

[whatdumd]

@toymachine135

it is.

what i meant was if we will see a TRD supercharger as part of the tuning mods that will be available through TRD when the car hits showrooms

[XenoRacing]

@whatdumd doubt it since scion stopped offering the supercharger for the tc

[Jeisin914]

BRZ VERSION FTW.... SCION PFTTTTTTT LOL

[kfarkas84]

@KyoRedBladeZR1 - will be released as Toyota GT 86

[KyoRedBladeZR1]

I wish it was launched as the Toyota 86. :(

[GottfriedvonCramm]

100 dollars the scion ft-s is safer

[kewl10mac]

Mad vid Taro! arigato gozaimas

[kewl10mac]

0:54 is that Toshi Hayama from JDM Insider?

[2fast4all]

It throws me off that they ALREADY tuned a car that's not even on the market yet....

[CaribbeanGTR]

The new Scion was supposed to be a real car, RWD with the legendary 3SGTE turbo motor from the successful Celica GT4. What the hell is this the carried to sell us?

[CaribbeanGTR]

Lame-ass car which is rumored to cost $30,000. Why would I want that? And then I have to go to GReddy or HKS to make the car go? Go buy yourself a WRX or EVO for the same money.

[2fast4all]

@CaribbeanGTR Id go for a the other big 3, mustang, camaro, challenger. Starting off with a GT VS, RS, or R/T and still under 30k

[EPIKjdm]

disgusting.... the old concept @ NY auto show was MUCH MUCH better. This just now looks like a new scion TC... fail

[2fast4all]

@EPIKjdm Why no make it the new celica?

[xxKrazy2nRxx]

What should I do?? Use my money to get the FR-S or import an S15 here to the US?? I won't have the money till mid 2014 when I graduate college, so I got time to think but what would you guys do? I'm sure the FR-S will go down in price by then and maybe get some nice upgrades, but still which would be better?

[rickynogmail]

@xxKrazy2nRxx

There were rumors about a turbo version 1 year after the first model gets on the market. Keep an eye open about that.

[brittonray]

@xxKrazy2nRxx s15 dude. This is so lame

[noremorse126]

that does look nice though

[Xolition]

Great they took an awesome concept and made it look like a 4th gen Eclipse...

[nudypoo]

EPIC FAIL

[SubjectRei]

Writing FRS overlapping each other with only vertical and horizontal lines it becomes 86

[elmo1257]

somewhere around $20,000

[SexyAndlKnowIt]

poor man's lfa...

[rhythmnsmoke]

I so can't wait this baby..

[edphamer]

I wonder how many people regret of buying the new scion tc. If I'm one of them I would be like "man only if I knew the frs is coming out :("

[malehousecat]

Nissan Altima 2.5S 2.5L175hp 180Tq $23,600

Civic Si 2.4L 201hp 170Tq $22,200

Hyundai Genisis 2.0T 2.0L 210hp 223Tq $22,250

Scion FR-S 2L 200hp has to be priced to steal sales from the above, especially the civic.

Anyway, ive been waiting 9 years for a new Silvia, i will continue to wait.

PS. credit to Hyundai on 210hp and 223tq form 2L. Not a hyundai fan, but thats impressive

[MRJARDIM]

@malehousecat Thats not impressive...Thats a TURBO my friend. My 850 Turbo's got 240HP and 250tq from a 2.3...

[malehousecat]

@MRJARDIM Oh it is? I didnt know, thought they were squeezing that from an N/A block. Volvos are cool. You got the 850R?

[1johpo]

@malehousecat volvos SUCKS.!!!!!! THEY NEVER MADE A GOOD CAR IN THEIR LIFE WHEN YOU BUY ONE IT WILL BRAKE DOWN IN LESS THAN 1 YEAR. !!!!

[MRJARDIM]

@malehousecat Its the 850 Turbo. The 850R has different software and front +rear bumpers, and interior. other than that everything is the same.

[XenomorphLV426]

@malehousecat You forgot the Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V: 200hp and 180 ft-lbs. And 210 hp from a TURBO 2.0L isn't that impressive, especially since the 2.0T Genesis is actually slow and numb to drive.

Hopefully the Scion/Subaru project motivates Nissan to bring back the 240sx.

[TehJumba]

reminds me of a souped out miata ..

[rickynogmail]

When the concept was presented, I liked it. I still think it's nice for guys like me who are not all about tuning and enjoy a reliable sporty car, at a decent price, that will not cost a fortune in gas either. I really wanted a tC (the previous model), but I don't fit in, it's too small (eyes above the top of the windshield), and sad thing is, I'm pretty sure I can put this one aside with the same problem...

[sil40dori]

Toyota dropped the ball overall and is just continuing this farce of a car on hype. so in 2012 we will finally have the makings of a RWD ITR? wow. big fucking deal, way too little too late. should have listened way back when before you completely lost your balls toyota. now i dont even care, ill get myself a miata with a hardtop for under 8K and mod the fuck out of it not worrying about voiding any warranty.

[sil40dori]

@sil40dori I retract this negative statement after watching /watch?v=6B7hhG3q5CI . i can judge the car by the amount of happiness on his face.

[mrsquishyboots]

it needs 300lbs of torque. less bling in the wheels.

[iKnollex]

Wow, now I really wish I didn't get a Honda Civic Si....

[2fast4all]

@iKnollex Your K20 has hope, just wait.

[666TECHNO666]

@iKnollex cause they know what to stay away from when it comes to being shitty

[RedDragon1260]

To be honest the Subaru version is way better. I am glad they give you two options with this platform and i know if the Subaru version is priced in the same ballpark as this they will go for the Subaru instead.

[edphamer]

I thought the concept's headlights & taillights were more aggressive than this..:(

[kidkill04]

better start importing those toyota badges.

[Thesuperblack22]

The GReddy version looks pretty good though

[Thesuperblack22]

BRZ looks way better.

I was actually expecting this to look better of the two

[NikkoThePinoi]

if they didnt change the taillights it probably would of looked great

[Jester25ft]

So the question now which is the one to buy? Subaru,Toyota, or Scion? ummm...

[oishifunk]

LFA when she was a baby?

[sonomama82]

so its an FR right?

[Jester25ft]

@sonomama82 Yes

[KidWonder101]

When do you ever see a concept make it to production?

[enwordsand]

i like the concept better than this version :(

[hk417]

i'll take the white hachi on the left anytime over the fr-s....

[brandinsider1]

Pretty awesome Launch for SCION!

[hk417]

base model should be $18000, fully loaded at $22,000...... and i don't fucking care if you can put your logs into Gran Turismo 5 (only children will think that's cool you stupid shit)....

[WarpedNut]

now it looks cheap compared to the concepts

[theonlylolking]

@WarpedNut That is because most of the time concepts of a soon to be production car look better than the production car.

[PhantomR32]

Best part of the video at 0:18 2000gt <3

[TheBladeofaDemon]

love me some FRS

[StreetSurfer136]

rims fucking suck!

[paintborgfun]

got double the HP two the wheel in my 95 civic lol and its probable work less then half that car

[dude12345274]

@paintborgfun horsepower is not the point, like the guy said its the driving experience plus nowdays how often do you see rwd cars that are affordable

[DuudeWhatDoesMineSay]

Why do they rename their cars for the US?

[rotarycorvette1]

100 dollars the white ae86 is faster

[CJAEY]

@rotarycorvette1

Of course it's faster, that's the Bowls LA AE86, boosted 4AGE

[chriscas1993]

subaru should bring the BRZ as well

[boravw1]

is this car supposed to 1 look like a new Celica? and 2 are competition to a Civic SI?

[tyhyhh]

2:39 bring that back!