this is good technique but against wooden sword, slow motion and if your enemy is your schoolboy. But against ragging enemy with real weapon is something else. Beside there are many strikes that cant be blocked by bare hands or legs nor change direction or even avoid the incoming hit. Why not? Because if you try your arms or legs will be not part of your body anymore. Please tell me how you can block this:
In what i have learned tachi waza means standing technique. I guess a different character is used for tachi ? Or is it because it's most likely to use a tachi in a standing position ? Ambiguous.
About the technique, we usually do it with an omote type of entrance, because the uke tries to turn towards nage and cut at the abdomen, after the shomen uchi. If done this way, uke trying to cut means my hand grabs the bokken right between his hands.
I have a tendancy to doubt the stories I hear about streetfights because it's those stories I don't enjoy recounting, but I see neither do you. In terms of your attitude to fighting, it's the right one. Here in Glasgow (the knifeing capitol of the world) having the wrong head for fights get's you stabbed.
Funnily enough, there was a sword death last year. Some tit (untrained) from the south side attacked one of the people at my dojo with a katana and it ended up cutting him.
Funny, my grandfather came over here from Aberdeen. He married a full blooded Indian but no one knows now what tribe she was from...too bad!
I guess I have the old Irish/Scottish ire in me to this day even though I'm now 63.
I appreciate you 'collected' response. But to be more clear... I never claimed that my experiences with Aikido proved anything other than they've helped me out of a number of jams. It just so happened that certain Aikido techniques seem to lend,
Well, I reckon there are those who'd most certainly disagree with you...me for one! Unfortunately, I've had to use Aikido techniques on two different occasions, and they most certainly did work.
That being said, I 'hear' what you're saying. I believe that in order to defend one's self against a genuinely vigorous and vicious assault it'd require a very high level of skill. Much higher than most practitioners and even many teachers possess.
You have defended yourself against a sword from an attacker meaning to kill you...twice, please stop me when this sounds rediculous. I said "mortal duals" (typo), you have never been in a mortal duel. They probably work in street fights but the weapon techniques are bullshit.
You never specifically clarified that the attacks had to be sword attacks. The attacks against me were both hand to hand: The first was a knife attack...one on one. The second was against a seven person gang armed with a baseball bat.
As far as I'm concerned, ANY attack is a potentially "mortal duel".
When I said dual I meant with a trained martial artist, not some thug who's more likely to fall on their knife than stab you with it (and it's really easy to make them). I've been in fights before but none of them have made me fear for my life and only one was with another kenshi. I've never taken a sharp weapon to someone and never plan to. To claim your experiences have properly tested aikido against other styles of weapon arts is unfounded.
That's not the problem. The dodge is doable the problem is that this technique only works with single edged blades. If he tried this with a double edged weapon, he would lose a hand.
its a lot easier than you think. true, it is hard to get used to the timing, but in any good committed strike there is a point where you cant change the angle of the attack, so only after that point should the one doging move. trust me, it doesnt seem like it works, but you really do have the time to move out of the way. a blade is only a few millimeters wide, it doesnt have to miss by much for it to miss.
I'm so tired of people saying " What if his opponent was as good as him" or " That might not always work" I'm pretty sure 95% of the world on uneducated useless drones who's weapon of choice is a snapped pool cue or broken beer bottle. It would be rare to come accross a self defense scenario where you must defend yourself from another Aikido Master.
Second, It does not claim to raise you to godhood. Thats only if you collect all the Headbands. Otherwise, they are as mortal as you or me.
He says: onegaishimasu. This is a Japanese word meaning such as "please". It is used as: "Please take care of me", and is used before an excercise or lesson.
This is a pretty advanced Tech, not something that you teach a kid for fun. I took Aikido as a college class and the teacher was an old guy. Some of the other kids wanted to see if Aikido 'really works'- and the teacher had me attack him, full speed, full force. Granted it was empty hand, but this guy moved so smooth and fast it blew my MIND! I've been a Marine for 9 years, so I like to think that I know pretty well how to take someone down- not this guy. I was on the mat every time.
man, it's good that you gave it a go to find out, i know what you mean though, when i started i was like 'whoa wtf just happened... i'm on the floor now?' lol
Unrealistic. If anyone thinks they can disarm a person with a sword, try the following experiment. Get a foam "swimming noodle" that is about 4 ft long, and paint half of it black. Immediately (while the paint is still wet) have a buddy try to really strike you with the noodle. The defender wears a white shirt and a white pants. I guarantee you that the defender will have black marks ALL OVER his body, head, arms, and legs. This kind of video clips will get you killed
the difference between your scenarion and this is that this guy is a trained and he's talking about a sword. a sword is a hard piece of metal and has a limited reach. it is also heavier than a swiming noodle thus harder to manoeuvre you can't compare an ant to a spinach dood.
The way he's demonstrating it makes it seem unrealistic, because it's slow and a demo. If someone did strike straight down with an object, you wait until that last split second until they are committed, then you move. If this was done at speed you would be able to see its effectiveness, however no one would be able to see what he's doing to make it that way.
excuse me but i can't stop laughing at there pants hahaha
shadowdudeable 5 months ago
this is good technique but against wooden sword, slow motion and if your enemy is your schoolboy. But against ragging enemy with real weapon is something else. Beside there are many strikes that cant be blocked by bare hands or legs nor change direction or even avoid the incoming hit. Why not? Because if you try your arms or legs will be not part of your body anymore. Please tell me how you can block this:
- horizontal strike
- diagonal strike
- vertical upper strike
- fast combo strikes
LORDVADER357 1 year ago
In what i have learned tachi waza means standing technique. I guess a different character is used for tachi ? Or is it because it's most likely to use a tachi in a standing position ? Ambiguous.
About the technique, we usually do it with an omote type of entrance, because the uke tries to turn towards nage and cut at the abdomen, after the shomen uchi. If done this way, uke trying to cut means my hand grabs the bokken right between his hands.
anrei0000 1 year ago
The second part of my response should have served to have actually helped to substantiated your basic claim/opinion.
You should be cautious when ascribing to someone whom you don't know what their experiences have either been or have not been.
I've had every manner of weapon drawn on me. Not brag, just fact! Luckily, simply by using my wits I've been able to survive them all.
I really don't desire to have any more exchanges concerning this 'argument'.
Thanks.
Part Two...
zenmeister451 2 years ago
@zenmeister451
I have a tendancy to doubt the stories I hear about streetfights because it's those stories I don't enjoy recounting, but I see neither do you. In terms of your attitude to fighting, it's the right one. Here in Glasgow (the knifeing capitol of the world) having the wrong head for fights get's you stabbed.
Funnily enough, there was a sword death last year. Some tit (untrained) from the south side attacked one of the people at my dojo with a katana and it ended up cutting him.
ihaterobbie123 2 years ago
ihaterobbie123,
Funny, my grandfather came over here from Aberdeen. He married a full blooded Indian but no one knows now what tribe she was from...too bad!
I guess I have the old Irish/Scottish ire in me to this day even though I'm now 63.
I appreciate you 'collected' response. But to be more clear... I never claimed that my experiences with Aikido proved anything other than they've helped me out of a number of jams. It just so happened that certain Aikido techniques seem to lend,
Part One
zenmeister451 2 years ago
...themselves to those situations at the time. I am familiar with other styles though.
I make no claim as to being a bad-ass fighter, because I'm not! I've just been quite lucky.
Thanks for the exchanges. Jeff
zenmeister451 2 years ago
ihaterobbie...
Well, I reckon there are those who'd most certainly disagree with you...me for one! Unfortunately, I've had to use Aikido techniques on two different occasions, and they most certainly did work.
That being said, I 'hear' what you're saying. I believe that in order to defend one's self against a genuinely vigorous and vicious assault it'd require a very high level of skill. Much higher than most practitioners and even many teachers possess.
zenmeister451 2 years ago
You have defended yourself against a sword from an attacker meaning to kill you...twice, please stop me when this sounds rediculous. I said "mortal duals" (typo), you have never been in a mortal duel. They probably work in street fights but the weapon techniques are bullshit.
ihaterobbie123 2 years ago
ihaterobbie123,
You never specifically clarified that the attacks had to be sword attacks. The attacks against me were both hand to hand: The first was a knife attack...one on one. The second was against a seven person gang armed with a baseball bat.
As far as I'm concerned, ANY attack is a potentially "mortal duel".
Part One...
zenmeister451 2 years ago
@zenmeister451
When I said dual I meant with a trained martial artist, not some thug who's more likely to fall on their knife than stab you with it (and it's really easy to make them). I've been in fights before but none of them have made me fear for my life and only one was with another kenshi. I've never taken a sharp weapon to someone and never plan to. To claim your experiences have properly tested aikido against other styles of weapon arts is unfounded.
ihaterobbie123 2 years ago
He keeps demonstrating the move in parts but never performs the technique with unbroken speed.
zenmeister451 2 years ago 5
@zenmeister451
That's because the techniques don't work. Aikido was developed after mortal duals were made illegal and so has never been tried properly.
ihaterobbie123 2 years ago
I dont think you can dodge an attack like that...
Hackerx72 2 years ago
That's not the problem. The dodge is doable the problem is that this technique only works with single edged blades. If he tried this with a double edged weapon, he would lose a hand.
Ryooken 2 years ago
thats why you use a one sided sword(katanas)
tomoyabj 2 years ago
Understandable but these techniques should be universal.
Ryooken 2 years ago
not really because its for a certain style not for every kind
tomoyabj 2 years ago
its a lot easier than you think. true, it is hard to get used to the timing, but in any good committed strike there is a point where you cant change the angle of the attack, so only after that point should the one doging move. trust me, it doesnt seem like it works, but you really do have the time to move out of the way. a blade is only a few millimeters wide, it doesnt have to miss by much for it to miss.
superwazn 2 years ago
well i think we all know this would not happed quite like that but a nice display all the same
wheelerdealer66 2 years ago
Well, the hardest part is dodging like that.
Ranziel1 2 years ago
sure, how about if his counterpart is as good as him?
tom14854 2 years ago
I'm so tired of people saying " What if his opponent was as good as him" or " That might not always work" I'm pretty sure 95% of the world on uneducated useless drones who's weapon of choice is a snapped pool cue or broken beer bottle. It would be rare to come accross a self defense scenario where you must defend yourself from another Aikido Master.
Second, It does not claim to raise you to godhood. Thats only if you collect all the Headbands. Otherwise, they are as mortal as you or me.
TarantioDaceRW 2 years ago
Tachi issnt another word for blade, it was the name for the blades used by the samurai before the Katana was created I believe...
it was slightly longer and slightly more bent....
lordtains 2 years ago
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mortydoty 2 years ago
He says: onegaishimasu. This is a Japanese word meaning such as "please". It is used as: "Please take care of me", and is used before an excercise or lesson.
lordtains 2 years ago
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mortydoty 2 years ago
it will work....the first move is the key..you can do anything after the first move.
LordKaseem 2 years ago
This is a pretty advanced Tech, not something that you teach a kid for fun. I took Aikido as a college class and the teacher was an old guy. Some of the other kids wanted to see if Aikido 'really works'- and the teacher had me attack him, full speed, full force. Granted it was empty hand, but this guy moved so smooth and fast it blew my MIND! I've been a Marine for 9 years, so I like to think that I know pretty well how to take someone down- not this guy. I was on the mat every time.
hommedebois 2 years ago 10
man, it's good that you gave it a go to find out, i know what you mean though, when i started i was like 'whoa wtf just happened... i'm on the floor now?' lol
Snakeguevara 2 years ago
Unrealistic. If anyone thinks they can disarm a person with a sword, try the following experiment. Get a foam "swimming noodle" that is about 4 ft long, and paint half of it black. Immediately (while the paint is still wet) have a buddy try to really strike you with the noodle. The defender wears a white shirt and a white pants. I guarantee you that the defender will have black marks ALL OVER his body, head, arms, and legs. This kind of video clips will get you killed
bsumiko 2 years ago
I agree that this move is unrealistic howver, katanas are not pool toys.
EyeOnTheTV 2 years ago
the difference between your scenarion and this is that this guy is a trained and he's talking about a sword. a sword is a hard piece of metal and has a limited reach. it is also heavier than a swiming noodle thus harder to manoeuvre you can't compare an ant to a spinach dood.
gwiguig 2 years ago
is your buddy a 3rd dan akido expert though?
robswift008 2 years ago
so will being an idiot, but your still alive
mrgruber 2 years ago
The way he's demonstrating it makes it seem unrealistic, because it's slow and a demo. If someone did strike straight down with an object, you wait until that last split second until they are committed, then you move. If this was done at speed you would be able to see its effectiveness, however no one would be able to see what he's doing to make it that way.
Peace :-)
ChadMaestro 2 years ago
very cool
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