@devoid24 That's kinda my feeling too. It's probably a highley interesting and satisfying hobby, but all you really do is spend money on moving a heap of junk a few hundred meters up to a couple of thousand meters into the air, and then watch it come back down again... There's not really a purpose to it...
that beeping at the end was the bomb timer. it was sabotaged by the russians but they set the timer wrong. it later detonated and killed a small dog and a destroyed a cache of old playboy magazines.
also this whole thing was about $45,000 worth of balsa wood.
That was awesome!!! I have been building model rockets since the 70's and that is truely the best launch I have ever witnessed. I just wish I was there at the time of the launch!!! incredible indeed!
Excellent stuff! I salute your efforts and I hope to see more soon. It makes my own efforts seem even more pathetic though! I do have a bigger one planned for the new year but it's still only a few feet tall.
Not sure what the regs are since I was just a spectator, but regular folks like me were kept 1/4 mile away. Maybe the others you see were from the media and allowed to be closer?
A perfect launch, separation and landing with chutes..............these guys should work for NASA! The way the thrust came out the back was just like the real thing!
That was awesome! The only thing I would have done differently is put a camera on the rocket itself and show the launch from the rocket's prospective.
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Its amazing how the average or even above average persons understanding of mathematics is inadequate. This is not 1/10th scale. You can't just pick a single dimension (height) and make a comparison. Well maybe you can if you live in a world with one dimension but we don't, You have to compare the volume of space and use that to calculate. The weight is slightly more telling although still wrong in which case this rocket is only 1/41875th scale.
Weight doesn't work like that. Say you have a 1" cube of metal that weighs 1 pound. a 2" cube of the same material is only twice as large (2:1 scale) but has the mass of eight 1" cubes, so therefore weighs 8 pounds under the same conditions. Complex shapes make this far more complicated to calculate than I can express in a youtube comment, but you get the general idea.
Weight is not a good way to compare scales due to a difference in components and materials. The best way to determine the scale of a model is to measure the longest dimension of the object being modeled (typically refered to as "length") and divide it by the measure of the same dimension on the model. Any differences in the remaining 2 dimensions are inaccuracies in the model.
Thats what I thought........that scale only refers to dimentions like length, width and depth.....................never heard of scale being associated with weight........................or my space shuttle is actually 1/ 80 000 000 as opposed to 1/200!
Scale modeling, everything from a Revel model of the Blackbird to the models of test flight objects made by corporations or NASA to be tested in wind tunnels, and always quoted as scaled by a single linear dimension. Thus a 1:2 model is always half as long as the real design (and also half as wide, half as deep). A 1:2 scale model has 1/8 th volume, and mass is almost never considered because it is usually immaterial.
Your knowledge of real engineering is stunted, I'm afraid.
assuming materials are the same the weight tells you exactly how much larger an item is. As racrdave said earlier a 2" cube is 8 times the size of a 1" cube because it takes 8 1" cube to make one 2" cube. Most scale measurements are reported according to the longest dimension but thinking like that can take you down the wrong path quickly. Reporting scale by volume gives you a better comparison because you are comparing things that take up space.
You cannot make an assumption such as you suggest in this case, because:
1) The interior of the model is empty, having only the cluster of ALCP engines in it's base and the parachutes above.
2) The mass ratio depends on whether the real Saturn is fueled or not. The weight of the H2/O2 vs the content of the model are not at all commensurate.
3) In the rare cases that mass or weight is the metric of the ratio, "By weight" is appended to assure understanding.
In engineering, it is rare for your condition, that the materials are the same weight (you actually mean density, but we'll let that go), or even the same materials, to be met. Certainly in this case it is not. In common engineering practice as well as in this case, the ratio is the linear measure. It is what Werner von Braun would have expected when considering a 1:10 model. Get over it.
Yes, indeed. It very closely resembled the real thing except for the acceleration. The Saturn V seemed to take forever to run the tower height (actually only took about 10 seconds).
Reading your comment I've thought about something:
Could a model rocket like this Saturn, with the appropiate number of stages, reach orbit?...
I think the answer would be probably a "no", because of the difference in size and in the distance it has to climb until getting in orbit in relation to the real rocket, but maybe...
Well as long as it had enough fuel and if it reached at 18,000 miles per hour it would achieve orbit. If you had a rocket as big as Bert Rutans jet you could reach orbit so it probably is possible.
GREAT JOB!! WOO HOO!! That was way cool, I built a big one only 6' and it went parellell to the ground, but then I like to use dynamite as a payload though, Grfreat Job Man>
Maby the Smithsonion Institute Air and Space museum would be interesed in displaying the rocket since it was a record holder, and an achievement for pioneers of rocketry.
That was the most amazing apogee ever witnessed. Looked like it was literally floating in space for a while. What a stunning feat. Congratulations! I could watch this for hours.
Major congrats. I like that name the dude below proffered "the missile men." Corny but in a nostalgic kind of way, a new generation of rocket men. Do a larger-scale version and the whole world will be captivated by the human adventure.
Congrats Steve and Sat V Team. New generation of Steely Eyed Missile Men. Any velocity or terminal altitude data? Looked to even have a little G-Roll goin on there! Well done . . . what's next???? HA! Enjoy the moment.
From one rocketman to another, great job! I watched your FOXNEWS interview and I wish I had the garage space you have to build such colossal projects.
HD version is now available under my user name (rcgrabbag). Youtube doesn't seem to let me post a link in the Comments section here, so just look under my user name.
Was that Steve standing close to the rocket on launch with the camera? Kind of crazy to me, maybe the rocket fuel used is more stable than I thought. Isn't there potential for an immediate explosion on launch. Pretty cool!
It's completely stable. They are using solid fuel - (APCP) and the compound is more stable than what you would find in the small estes rockets (black powder). Far safer than fireworks. Same sort of thing that they use in the solid rocket boosters on the shuttle, more or less.
Great detailed coverage, the best yet! Can't wait for the HD version. In regards to the price tag on this project...$30,000 total. According to local area news coverage.
Yes, YouTube does accept HD. Encode it as H.264 720p. You won't notice ANY quality loss from what you upload. The actual normal player isn't 720p (640x360), but the full screen looks sick. You'll see what I mean.
Not to promote my stuff, but all of our recent videos are in 720p H.264. I don't think you have to be a 'YouTube Partner' for the benefit.
Thanks for capturing a great video for those of us who could not be there. Really appreciate the details like the component closeups, the crater, the blast deflector stand-thanks from Montana-
THAT IS SOOOO FREAKIN COOL!!!!.
I wish i had the time and money to do fun stuff like that because its fun and AWESOME!!!.
LordZacknafien 4 months ago
well yee haw mate. job well done , git r done. rednecks rule, granny porn is excellent.
MrSBChevy 4 months ago
I like how you spoke to people afterward.
N37BU6 5 months ago
I think it is really amazing, but I have to ask, "why spend what must have been a LOT of money, doing this"?
Someone said they it was $13,000 just for fuel.
the real rocket made it into space, why build a scale model that doesnt go into space and doesnt serve a purpose other than entertainment?
dont get me wrong, I LOVE rockets, but I just dont know why you would go to great expense to do this.
$13,000 could feed a lot of kids for a long time, kids go hungry every day in the United States.
devoid24 8 months ago
@devoid24 That's kinda my feeling too. It's probably a highley interesting and satisfying hobby, but all you really do is spend money on moving a heap of junk a few hundred meters up to a couple of thousand meters into the air, and then watch it come back down again... There's not really a purpose to it...
Tjita1 6 months ago
@devoid24 So you're an authority on how he should send the money he earned? If you want to feed the children you're free to use your own money.
Stevis82 1 week ago
Camera guy was like FUUUUCK! haha
cazaresgirl 8 months ago
What was the intended altitude? I know it went about 4500feet, but was it intended for higher?
Andrewlee2010 9 months ago
I really wanna ride it now.
goober239 9 months ago
a fitting tribute to the majesty and legacy of the Saturn V!
DBZparodier 11 months ago
Wow! Fantastic launch & a great looking rocket.
utoobLuvr8 1 year ago
that is actually about the size of a V2. If attempted this thing could get some serious range
oldmanwithers1 1 year ago
How high will it go? very cool video Joseph T fly2000jtb
fly2000jtb 1 year ago
Very very nice...
goodbuds4me 1 year ago
Very Nice Launch & Awsome Landing!,:-),Richard n Beaver Dam,Ky.42320-9746
kynumber1rocketman 1 year ago
a beautiful launch....congratulations
albinoporchmonkey 1 year ago
I can watch this many times. It was definitely cool over the webcast! Still cool today!
Roborocketry 1 year ago
bravooooooo beautifully saturn V model rocket
bestamerica 1 year ago
that beeping at the end was the bomb timer. it was sabotaged by the russians but they set the timer wrong. it later detonated and killed a small dog and a destroyed a cache of old playboy magazines.
also this whole thing was about $45,000 worth of balsa wood.
bandwagonretards 1 year ago
I would love to know how much it cost to build and launch somthing like that.
InfernalGaming 1 year ago
at 1:59 has one of the parachutes collapsed?
iliveonjupiter 1 year ago
@iliveonjupiter I think that is the chute bag. Not sure but I believe that is what it is.
Booger6995 1 year ago
sounds justb like a seadart launch lol. well done very impressive
yourasnotball 1 year ago
My GOD that's a big ship!
AdamEtheredge 1 year ago
That was awesome!!! I have been building model rockets since the 70's and that is truely the best launch I have ever witnessed. I just wish I was there at the time of the launch!!! incredible indeed!
MrAndyokun 1 year ago
how high did it go?
Lohman1464 1 year ago
1.2 kilometers
ezerteterterte 1 year ago
It came.
driftability 1 year ago
thats not a model rocket thats a freaking sidewinder missle
devanoo2 1 year ago 16
@devanoo2 It's BIGGER than a sidewinder missile...
plugs313 1 year ago
@plugs313 fine a SAM rocket
devanoo2 1 year ago
@devanoo2 Yup! I'd go for that... a BIG sam... is something like this even legal? in a farmer's field no less.
plugs313 1 year ago
i wish it staged and then re lit and then staged and re lit then staging then parachute down but still good what he did
iliveonjupiter 1 year ago
You have got to admire that level of dedication. I hate to think what it cost.
maxsmodels 2 years ago
i'm trying to make scarth built version of the kit as super bertha. i have the fins
newyorkcentrury 2 years ago
wow wow wow spettacolare!!!!
EdramBurt 2 years ago
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watto958 2 years ago
Excellent stuff! I salute your efforts and I hope to see more soon. It makes my own efforts seem even more pathetic though! I do have a bigger one planned for the new year but it's still only a few feet tall.
Wardy
WardyLion 2 years ago
How was that launch allowed with those people so close.
That had to be against Tripoil and AMA Regulations.
Rocketryman 2 years ago
Not sure what the regs are since I was just a spectator, but regular folks like me were kept 1/4 mile away. Maybe the others you see were from the media and allowed to be closer?
rcgrabbag 2 years ago
@rcgrabbag yea and high risk pay also.
dodoslovensko 1 year ago
Wow 36 ft height, that's massive. Really nice video!
qwasd0r 2 years ago
Best video version I've seen! Nice camera work...Thanks!
givemetoast 2 years ago 2
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watto958 2 years ago
thats amazing i launched a rocket yesterday and it only went 950 feet
ultimatevet 2 years ago
ITS not big ITS HUGE !!!
FellPonyz 2 years ago 3
A perfect launch, separation and landing with chutes..............these guys should work for NASA! The way the thrust came out the back was just like the real thing!
stegaflaps 2 years ago
Good work with the camera, dude!
Awesome rocket...
Eatboom 2 years ago 6
Very impressive.............how high did it get?
stegaflaps 2 years ago
4 thousand feet.
danschaoticmind 2 years ago
Very nice.. great job by the dude with the vidcam... that thing was moving.
rcjackass 2 years ago
almost look like a missile launch, that is one big rocket model!!!!
darkness2121 2 years ago
That was awesome! The only thing I would have done differently is put a camera on the rocket itself and show the launch from the rocket's prospective.
Load her up again!
TruthSeekingHoosier 2 years ago
Sorry...perspective.
TruthSeekingHoosier 2 years ago
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Its amazing how the average or even above average persons understanding of mathematics is inadequate. This is not 1/10th scale. You can't just pick a single dimension (height) and make a comparison. Well maybe you can if you live in a world with one dimension but we don't, You have to compare the volume of space and use that to calculate. The weight is slightly more telling although still wrong in which case this rocket is only 1/41875th scale.
iuliusceasar 2 years ago
So scale includes weight as well? So I guess my 1/200 model space shuttle is only really 1/40000?
stegaflaps 2 years ago
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Ah, you're learning :)
iuliusceasar 2 years ago
Weight doesn't work like that. Say you have a 1" cube of metal that weighs 1 pound. a 2" cube of the same material is only twice as large (2:1 scale) but has the mass of eight 1" cubes, so therefore weighs 8 pounds under the same conditions. Complex shapes make this far more complicated to calculate than I can express in a youtube comment, but you get the general idea.
racrdave 2 years ago
Weight is not a good way to compare scales due to a difference in components and materials. The best way to determine the scale of a model is to measure the longest dimension of the object being modeled (typically refered to as "length") and divide it by the measure of the same dimension on the model. Any differences in the remaining 2 dimensions are inaccuracies in the model.
AmericaFyeah1776 2 years ago 2
Thats what I thought........that scale only refers to dimentions like length, width and depth.....................never heard of scale being associated with weight........................or my space shuttle is actually 1/ 80 000 000 as opposed to 1/200!
stegaflaps 2 years ago
Scale modeling, everything from a Revel model of the Blackbird to the models of test flight objects made by corporations or NASA to be tested in wind tunnels, and always quoted as scaled by a single linear dimension. Thus a 1:2 model is always half as long as the real design (and also half as wide, half as deep). A 1:2 scale model has 1/8 th volume, and mass is almost never considered because it is usually immaterial.
Your knowledge of real engineering is stunted, I'm afraid.
puncheex 2 years ago
assuming materials are the same the weight tells you exactly how much larger an item is. As racrdave said earlier a 2" cube is 8 times the size of a 1" cube because it takes 8 1" cube to make one 2" cube. Most scale measurements are reported according to the longest dimension but thinking like that can take you down the wrong path quickly. Reporting scale by volume gives you a better comparison because you are comparing things that take up space.
iuliusceasar 2 years ago
You cannot make an assumption such as you suggest in this case, because:
1) The interior of the model is empty, having only the cluster of ALCP engines in it's base and the parachutes above.
2) The mass ratio depends on whether the real Saturn is fueled or not. The weight of the H2/O2 vs the content of the model are not at all commensurate.
3) In the rare cases that mass or weight is the metric of the ratio, "By weight" is appended to assure understanding.
puncheex 2 years ago
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In engineering, it is rare for your condition, that the materials are the same weight (you actually mean density, but we'll let that go), or even the same materials, to be met. Certainly in this case it is not. In common engineering practice as well as in this case, the ratio is the linear measure. It is what Werner von Braun would have expected when considering a 1:10 model. Get over it.
puncheex 2 years ago
really cool
djscary2004 2 years ago
Well Done looked awesome.
Love the Saturn 5, great way to tribute the anniversary.
You need to check out the Top Gear - reliant Robin Space shuttle weighting in at over 1400Kg
1/5th scale Space Shuttle.
Deadeye77 2 years ago
bravo zulu.
TURBOPOE 2 years ago
Now thats a model rocket launch!
RKurtzweil68 2 years ago
best rocket launch ever! looks like the "real" thing!!!!!
nice!!
gus23a 2 years ago
Yes, indeed. It very closely resembled the real thing except for the acceleration. The Saturn V seemed to take forever to run the tower height (actually only took about 10 seconds).
puncheex 2 years ago
AS AMAZING AS BEAUTIFUL!!!, great job!!!, I'd like to build my own rockets, Greetings from Mexico City!
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Mrann1990 2 years ago
WOW thats great I wish it had three stages it would have gone miles
Pyroguy92 2 years ago
Reading your comment I've thought about something:
Could a model rocket like this Saturn, with the appropiate number of stages, reach orbit?...
I think the answer would be probably a "no", because of the difference in size and in the distance it has to climb until getting in orbit in relation to the real rocket, but maybe...
Regards! :)
raptor22stealth 2 years ago
By "reading your comment" I meant "reading Piroguy92's comment"... :)
raptor22stealth 2 years ago
Well as long as it had enough fuel and if it reached at 18,000 miles per hour it would achieve orbit. If you had a rocket as big as Bert Rutans jet you could reach orbit so it probably is possible.
Pyroguy92 2 years ago
Just came back to say BRAVO one more time! Best model rocket launch I've ever seen. Historic.
JRCrowley 2 years ago
GREAT JOB!! WOO HOO!! That was way cool, I built a big one only 6' and it went parellell to the ground, but then I like to use dynamite as a payload though, Grfreat Job Man>
roadrunnermike 2 years ago
Maby the Smithsonion Institute Air and Space museum would be interesed in displaying the rocket since it was a record holder, and an achievement for pioneers of rocketry.
emo5derf 2 years ago
NASA has already contacted Eves about displaying it at the U.S. Space & Rocket Center in Huntsville, Ala., beneath an original Saturn V.
FlarFsNarfle 2 years ago
Coolest thing i have seen in such a long time. How much did that thing cost?
jwpierce07 2 years ago
well they said that the fuel for it itself costed like 13,000 or more i cant really remember
ejhsskater 2 years ago
That was the most amazing apogee ever witnessed. Looked like it was literally floating in space for a while. What a stunning feat. Congratulations! I could watch this for hours.
cardinaldriver 2 years ago
Major congrats. I like that name the dude below proffered "the missile men." Corny but in a nostalgic kind of way, a new generation of rocket men. Do a larger-scale version and the whole world will be captivated by the human adventure.
Rikotistic 2 years ago
Congrats Steve and Sat V Team. New generation of Steely Eyed Missile Men. Any velocity or terminal altitude data? Looked to even have a little G-Roll goin on there! Well done . . . what's next???? HA! Enjoy the moment.
NeverforgetElvis 2 years ago
Great work !
Felicitaciones from Argentina!
rocketry 2 years ago
From one rocketman to another, great job! I watched your FOXNEWS interview and I wish I had the garage space you have to build such colossal projects.
autoboxx 2 years ago
OK... I want to go for a ride!!!
oneilldm 2 years ago
Now N. Korea knows how build a successful rocket:^)
MatosUpNorth 2 years ago
Congrats Steve!
You've just surpassed Korea in rocket technology!
MalcolmXcrement 2 years ago 19
HD version is now available under my user name (rcgrabbag). Youtube doesn't seem to let me post a link in the Comments section here, so just look under my user name.
rcgrabbag 2 years ago
HD version is at: watch?v=z-X4z_cRLOY
Thanks for these.
RWBHere 10 months ago
HD upload crapped out last night. Sorry. Retrying upload now.
rcgrabbag 2 years ago
BRAVO, STEVE EVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cabrehm 2 years ago
Was that Steve standing close to the rocket on launch with the camera? Kind of crazy to me, maybe the rocket fuel used is more stable than I thought. Isn't there potential for an immediate explosion on launch. Pretty cool!
jgubbe2 2 years ago
It's completely stable. They are using solid fuel - (APCP) and the compound is more stable than what you would find in the small estes rockets (black powder). Far safer than fireworks. Same sort of thing that they use in the solid rocket boosters on the shuttle, more or less.
Sethry25 2 years ago
Uploading the HD version as I write here. Will post the link as soon as it is available.
rcgrabbag 2 years ago
@rcgrabbag what was the altitude that the rocket reached,before the fuel ran out???.
myleftnutts 1 year ago
I'm hoping Steve doesn't repair the damage before it goes on display (and I'm sure it will).
Looks kinda like the Liberty Bell...
Mainyard48 2 years ago
Great Video + Footage! go Steve!!!!
boumiz 2 years ago
Great detailed coverage, the best yet! Can't wait for the HD version. In regards to the price tag on this project...$30,000 total. According to local area news coverage.
63flyby 2 years ago
I will work on posting an HD version of this video tonight. I filmed it at 1080i and youtube is supposed to accept HD video now.
rcgrabbag 2 years ago
Yes, YouTube does accept HD. Encode it as H.264 720p. You won't notice ANY quality loss from what you upload. The actual normal player isn't 720p (640x360), but the full screen looks sick. You'll see what I mean.
Not to promote my stuff, but all of our recent videos are in 720p H.264. I don't think you have to be a 'YouTube Partner' for the benefit.
Send us a link when you get it uploaded!
BoxWrench 2 years ago
Thanx BoxWrench, still working on the vid and didn't get it loaded last night. Will try again tonight.
rcgrabbag 2 years ago
1/10th the scale and at about 1/1,000,000,000,000,000,000 the price
Meatpieandtatters 2 years ago
Amazing!
Meatpieandtatters 2 years ago
Great Video!
Dunno if this has already been asked but, how much did the whole project cost?
archon298 2 years ago
That darn shock cord gets 'em every time! The booster section was completely inverted when the chutes opened, so that must have been quite a jolt!
pablojr2 2 years ago
great job! congrats and awesome footage! u r the ttalk of the rocket community on this coast too(:
CascadiaRocks 2 years ago
Great camera work on the ascent! Excellent work Steve!!
gk123434534 2 years ago
great one!
timread7 2 years ago
IT'S COMING!!!
jrdnotlol 2 years ago
"You Build It...They Will Come"
Like "Field of Dreams"....a magical day out on the farm.
Congrats to Steve Eve and the whole MDRA crw for putting on a perfect show..it was something to see.
Dixiekraut 2 years ago
Finally a good video of this launch! Every other one is fucking awful!
CourtyardPigeon 2 years ago
Thanks for a great vid.
Congrats to Steve.
frestyle55 2 years ago
Excellent video, great tracking
blakejr 2 years ago
Great Video M8
Morphis 2 years ago
Spectacular! Great indepth video too.
HelloScottB 2 years ago
Awesome project and excellent video!!! Love all the up close post flight coverage!!! Mucho congrats to steve and his helpers!!!
tampafloridabeachbum 2 years ago
Thanks for capturing a great video for those of us who could not be there. Really appreciate the details like the component closeups, the crater, the blast deflector stand-thanks from Montana-
Congratulations Steve!!
vondeliusc 2 years ago
Beautiful build, fantastic flight!
Tremendous effort from Steve and his crew - super job.
This is the best video of the launch and recovery - Nice!
CAPNDigital 2 years ago
Awesome boost. Beautiful rocket Steve! Congratulations to all who were involved. Those Loki motors were perfect!
gmoldmule 2 years ago