Let's clear some things up. 1st, this was not written as a solo, it was written as a pure chop ram/ exercise that was played by the '93 QB. 2nd, It was actually written by 5 people, Mike Stevens, Bob Jones, Richard Galloway, Mark Muktoyuk, and myself. So, if you like it give Mike the credit, but if you think it's crap he only gets 1/5 of the blame :) As a side note, playing consistent block levels like this is harder than you think, if you can control it like this adding dynamics is easy!
@pyromaniac204060 Funny, I call it "boring." To each his own, though, and I am not saying I could do this or even come close. But I do have tastes and I prefer Tim's sound and dynamic contrast.
@pyromaniac204060 Trolls should copy that conversation to see how people can disagree maturely on the interwebs.
Also, I will point a flaw in my argument: this piece wasn't written by Bachman. Therefore, I cannot blame him for the lack of dynamic contrast; he was just playing the music as written.
@Inspadave they do produce a warmer tone but thats about it. you can get so many more sounds out of a stick. i mean yes you can be creative and probabily come up with some with a mellet but i guess im just aadjusting with whats going today. i used to use mallets but i prefer sticks. i got tired of the same sound.
@Inspadave I think the reason people are starting to prefer sticks is because of practice pads. You can't really use your mallets on a pad, but sticks work just fine. Having said that, I use both depending on the sound I"m looking for you. I know I'm out of control :P
@littlesnareboy I understand your point about mallets on pads, which is why I made sets of practice pads for the line I teach using discarded hoops, and actual drum heads. Not only do they get the feel of real heads they also have to work on not hitting rims. In performance they switch between several implements. I like sticks when playing latin music so I can get a timbale-like sound.
I dont think these are Remo Crimplock Pins are they Evans??? Help me out Im only keen on the Remo Series. I go White Ambassador but these sound sweet!!!
correction, yes they are TECHNICALLY quints, but they are also called quads even a full set of tenor drums are called quads in some places, i say Tenors for anything that has a spoc drum.. so you see tomata tomato!
i do however admire the fact that you tried starting an argument without knowing how you would finish it. great thought process! douche!
yeah dude, no worries. it's a fucking sweet solo, and i did the same, thinking that each new time i checked, i'd find it. The only misleading thing about the video "Reefed Beats" is that is sais pretty much everything (but it doesn't say not quite everything) that is in the video, is from out of Bill Bachman's Books, and Quad Logic being the only Quad Book he wrote, is assumed to have "Q" in it (as well as Opie's Changes). But it doesn't, it only has Geek, Opie's Opus, Beatlicious, and Guidance
I have no idea dude... I'm still checking if anybody, or any website has it though. I wouldn't necessesarily recomend getting reffed beats, mainly because it's not any more of a help than the book quad logic. If you're looking to see some amazing quad playing (basicly every solo out of quad logic is played by bachman himself in that dvd) and have some entertainment, get it, but if you're getting it because you want to improve as a drummer, you don't really need it. (quadlogic has you covered)
I would probably throw in Nick Werth as well. I believe he's one the most talented and underrated players of his skill and caliber, and easily falls in with Tim Jackson and Bill Bachman
LOL. The person that uploaded this to youtube is not the person you see playing. The one you see playing is legendary Bill Bachman.And if bachman wants to play with a wobbly stand, he can.
hahahahah you're joking right??? I seriously hope you're joking. That's one of the most ignorant things you can ask. Bachman played tenors for the University of North Texas (indoor drumline) and also played for the Cadets (Division 1 Drum Corp). Nuff said. Period
I love how my comment has a negative 1. There really are some dumbass people on youtube. If you actually saw ANY of bill bachman's drumset videos, and the complexity of his playing, maybe you'd shut the fuck up. p.s. If you really want to get technical, he's played with neal morse multiple times, (and if you don't know who that is, look it up. You'll be amazed. that is if you know anything about music) so if playing with a BAND is really all you care about, then yes, he can do that also.
i can only imagine what that sheet music looks like
ZebraBear88 2 months ago
Swiss triplets on tenors nom nom nom
PyroMaticChris 3 months ago
those asking if he knows what a rim is, his dad used to beat him with rims so now he never goes near them
swtenors 4 months ago
Let's clear some things up. 1st, this was not written as a solo, it was written as a pure chop ram/ exercise that was played by the '93 QB. 2nd, It was actually written by 5 people, Mike Stevens, Bob Jones, Richard Galloway, Mark Muktoyuk, and myself. So, if you like it give Mike the credit, but if you think it's crap he only gets 1/5 of the blame :) As a side note, playing consistent block levels like this is harder than you think, if you can control it like this adding dynamics is easy!
TheJeremygill 5 months ago
@TheJeremygill stickied
dbrddr 5 months ago
@TheJeremygill Are there any videos of this being played by the line?
MattKravetz 4 weeks ago
@MattKravetz Not that I know of.
TheJeremygill 2 weeks ago
He probably read the music and came to the rim parts going "rim? OH. so hit that thing around the drum head. Fuck, this is gonna be a hard piece."
MrFlyDrums 5 months ago
He dose his cross overs good but not a very good solo try to do better next time man
TheMightySemtex 7 months ago
mike stevens is my caption head this summer!! wooo pumped!!
crazyuki13 9 months ago
Something fun to do: randomly go forward and backward in the clip. It all sounds exactly the same. At least Tim has timbre and dynamics.
CCButtra 11 months ago
@CCButtra thats called "consistent sound quality"
pyromaniac204060 11 months ago
@pyromaniac204060 Funny, I call it "boring." To each his own, though, and I am not saying I could do this or even come close. But I do have tastes and I prefer Tim's sound and dynamic contrast.
CCButtra 10 months ago
@CCButtra I respect you for not being a internet troll. You are completely entitled to your own opinion.
pyromaniac204060 10 months ago
@pyromaniac204060 Trolls should copy that conversation to see how people can disagree maturely on the interwebs.
Also, I will point a flaw in my argument: this piece wasn't written by Bachman. Therefore, I cannot blame him for the lack of dynamic contrast; he was just playing the music as written.
CCButtra 10 months ago
It's so nerve racking watching him the whole time waiting to hear a rim...then at the end its just a huge sigh of relief...haha
ThePrestonMusic 11 months ago
...and like a real man he is using mallets, not sticks.
Inspadave 1 year ago
@Inspadave boo this comment haha
DieNaSty4me 1 year ago
@DieNaSty4me Boo my comment why? I do not see why people today prefer sticks over mallets. To me mallets produce a fuller sound. Sticks are wimpy.
Inspadave 1 year ago
@Inspadave they do produce a warmer tone but thats about it. you can get so many more sounds out of a stick. i mean yes you can be creative and probabily come up with some with a mellet but i guess im just aadjusting with whats going today. i used to use mallets but i prefer sticks. i got tired of the same sound.
DieNaSty4me 1 year ago
@Inspadave I think the reason people are starting to prefer sticks is because of practice pads. You can't really use your mallets on a pad, but sticks work just fine. Having said that, I use both depending on the sound I"m looking for you. I know I'm out of control :P
littlesnareboy 1 year ago
@littlesnareboy I understand your point about mallets on pads, which is why I made sets of practice pads for the line I teach using discarded hoops, and actual drum heads. Not only do they get the feel of real heads they also have to work on not hitting rims. In performance they switch between several implements. I like sticks when playing latin music so I can get a timbale-like sound.
Inspadave 1 year ago
he hit the rims on purpose at 1:48 just so the rest of the world wouldnt feel so much like shit.
trashbash2001 1 year ago
if bill bachman told me to kidnap the president i would say how many
thrashmetal1423 1 year ago 3
this is sick.
i love it.
unfabulous386 1 year ago
i hear an old song called square business in here? am i crazy
knightofdrknss22 1 year ago
his beating spots are perfect, zomg
Andman02 1 year ago
Bill Bachman- He hits rims because he wants to....
flyinhawaiian124 1 year ago 3
Can someone please tell me where to get sheet music for this?
KPNeil888 1 year ago
Unless this is a different Mike Stevens hes my marching band instructor.....W0W
RingMasterPB 1 year ago
@RingMasterPB do you go to tigard high school?
crazyuki13 1 year ago
It's like his arms and mallets become intangible and they just pass through each other to do those mind blowing crossovers!
0SukMunky0 1 year ago
He has the weirdest posture..but I love his drumming <33
Emdai7813 1 year ago
what happened to "don't look down or we'll break your ass boy?" O_O
Still great :D
lastupidproductions 1 year ago
Bil Bachman is like the Chuck Norris of drums... O_O
overmind232 1 year ago
there were only intentional rims in that. wow.
topgunne12 1 year ago
i was waiting to see if his quints exploded! LOLOL hes soo good
halo3general58 2 years ago
After watching this video, where BB uses mallets, go watch one where he uses sticks. The difference in sound is like night and day.
Inspadave 2 years ago
ohhhhh man the only rim in this is when he purposely hit it :x
iambiglucas 2 years ago 8
does he even know what a rim is??
haha
billybear12345 2 years ago 35
only when he wants to lol
supdog2112 2 years ago
haha lol
billybear12345 2 years ago
@billybear12345 yeah his father beat him with one often as a child so he would never go near one again lol
RKFTBxMJ 1 year ago
@RKFTBxMJ haha that reply just made my day!!!
Drummingwizkid 1 year ago
@billybear12345 yeah but only around the first 100 or so takes
DieNaSty4me 1 year ago
@billybear12345 only when he wants to
TairyGreen89 8 months ago
I dont think these are Remo Crimplock Pins are they Evans??? Help me out Im only keen on the Remo Series. I go White Ambassador but these sound sweet!!!
christc221 2 years ago
they might be evans....i think i see the evans symbol at the top of the 2nd drum head and the 1st.....but idk...
itscalledfutbol16 2 years ago
those are pinstripes. best tenor heads in the world
rreemmzzrruullee 2 years ago 2
bill uses remo crimplock pinstripes, they sound really great due the way their tuned
middleeasternguy36 2 years ago
my favorite thing about Bills playing is how clean his crosses are. he never clicks the rim do to missing the drum.
Stratocaster07 2 years ago
my friend won that set of quads
it was sick when i saw bill there and my friend accepting it...
i wish it woulda been me tho..lol.
TenorPlayer1800 2 years ago
where can i get music for crazy solos like this b.c im good and i think i could learn them i just dont know where to get them
ohyeahshift1 2 years ago
It may look like he is looking down, but in reality he is staring in to the 9th dimension because that's where the sheet music comes from.
TKGFILMS 2 years ago 4
best explanation of what hes looking at!!!
chuey352 2 years ago
Pretty cool.
KPNeil888 2 years ago
Goodness, I love his style of play.
-John
OhHowDreadful 2 years ago
Yeah we still won. Hahaha.
sportikus137 2 years ago
he judged at a competetion my HS drumline was at and nominated us for cymbal line caption. we don't have a cymbal line....
sportikus137 2 years ago
haha.
funkydrummer95 2 years ago
did you win? XD jk
sharkseatchainmail 2 years ago
we actually did. so it wasnt too bad
sportikus137 2 years ago
that is epic
sharkseatchainmail 2 years ago
nice...
bongohutter 2 years ago
Bill Bachman is the freaking Quad God, don't get me wrong, he's great.
I don't much care for this particular solo, I could just do with a tiny bit more structure, but that's just me.
Great playing nonetheless, five stars.
DrummerCoCa 2 years ago
How Much Structure Do Yo Possibly Need?
secondshen 2 years ago
hahaha agreed.
304hardc0re 2 years ago
i like his shirt.
bejay20x 2 years ago
These are quints, not quads.
CrayolaCoffeeCo 2 years ago
correction, yes they are TECHNICALLY quints, but they are also called quads even a full set of tenor drums are called quads in some places, i say Tenors for anything that has a spoc drum.. so you see tomata tomato!
i do however admire the fact that you tried starting an argument without knowing how you would finish it. great thought process! douche!
xpmpjce21x 2 years ago
dont know why you're so mad.
i thought the same thing.
and you dont know how he'd finish that.
i mean, what the hell?
drummaboyz007 2 years ago
dr. spock.
dustinlutzdrum 2 years ago
(the quad god) :P
JustinSkalaa 2 years ago
Sheet Music? Just Buy his book "Quad Logic" it has a bunch if his exersizes in it, it is a really cool book.
WGIChamp 3 years ago
Is this in it? i cant find it
yeahyeahyeahyeahya 3 years ago
"Q" isn't in Quad Logic
Tenorsarefun 3 years ago
"Q" isn't in Quad Logic. I have the book
Tenorsarefun 3 years ago
Ok that's what I thought lol. I went through my copy like 400 times looking for it : )
yeahyeahyeahyeahya 3 years ago
yeah dude, no worries. it's a fucking sweet solo, and i did the same, thinking that each new time i checked, i'd find it. The only misleading thing about the video "Reefed Beats" is that is sais pretty much everything (but it doesn't say not quite everything) that is in the video, is from out of Bill Bachman's Books, and Quad Logic being the only Quad Book he wrote, is assumed to have "Q" in it (as well as Opie's Changes). But it doesn't, it only has Geek, Opie's Opus, Beatlicious, and Guidance
Tenorsarefun 3 years ago
So is there any way to get "Q"? And would you recommend Reefed Beats?
yeahyeahyeahyeahya 3 years ago
I have no idea dude... I'm still checking if anybody, or any website has it though. I wouldn't necessesarily recomend getting reffed beats, mainly because it's not any more of a help than the book quad logic. If you're looking to see some amazing quad playing (basicly every solo out of quad logic is played by bachman himself in that dvd) and have some entertainment, get it, but if you're getting it because you want to improve as a drummer, you don't really need it. (quadlogic has you covered)
Tenorsarefun 3 years ago
Thanks a bunch man : )
yeahyeahyeahyeahya 3 years ago
Anyone have the sheet music?
yeahyeahyeahyeahya 3 years ago
I used to say Tim Jackson is better but....Bill Bachman is better. But I will say that Tim Jackson and Bill Bachman are the best ever.
MeGaMaGgOtT 3 years ago
I would probably throw in Nick Werth as well. I believe he's one the most talented and underrated players of his skill and caliber, and easily falls in with Tim Jackson and Bill Bachman
mackattack1 3 years ago
asome
GUTARKINGRYAN13 3 years ago
even owns on a wobbly stand! =D
topgunne12 3 years ago
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tim jackson is better.
THAisTheOne 3 years ago
bill bachman wrote the books tim jackson learned from lol.
Supernova325 3 years ago 39
@Supernova325 you mean rim jackson?
Matticusfoo 1 year ago
That guy's good...
sooldanbar 3 years ago
Bill wins life.
Linnehan13 3 years ago
hola solo quiero decir que bill bachman es el numero uno y espero tocar algun día como el apenas comienzo a estudiar tenor.
saludos desde México!!
ilpadrino94 3 years ago
duuuuuddddeee.
adjust your flippin stand yo.
those drums are wobblin' like crazy! I got dynastys and they don't wobble at all.
best ever!
carolyn103191 3 years ago
LOL. The person that uploaded this to youtube is not the person you see playing. The one you see playing is legendary Bill Bachman.And if bachman wants to play with a wobbly stand, he can.
Rpkist77 3 years ago 2
I know who that is.
He is freakin amazinnnnggg.
I was simply saying his stand was wobbly & dynastys are bitchinnn.
He can play on whatever he wants, either way he is the best.
carolyn103191 3 years ago
has your stand ever had to withstand the almighty power of bachman?
alexgilbert92 3 years ago 4
better then me
runbck43 3 years ago
He makes 57 seconds seem so long with so much notes
ChucoBabies 3 years ago
that is why he is thae Mastert of the Quads
jedimaster010 3 years ago
Master Bill teach us your ways of the Quads
jedimaster010 3 years ago
He did, its all in book called "Quad Logic"
t3n0r2009 3 years ago
oh cool how u know that
jedimaster010 3 years ago
i have the book of Bachman. It's full of useful etudes and info.
t3n0r2009 3 years ago
Damn I wan to learn that
jedimaster010 3 years ago
Don't we all?
vhsTenor2529 3 years ago 2
Yeah I know you can show off
jedimaster010 3 years ago
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he can play solo, but with a band? 0_o
jman60000 3 years ago
He marched tenors with the cadets, and led them to win 1st. He can PLAY!
t3n0r2009 3 years ago
hahahahah you're joking right??? I seriously hope you're joking. That's one of the most ignorant things you can ask. Bachman played tenors for the University of North Texas (indoor drumline) and also played for the Cadets (Division 1 Drum Corp). Nuff said. Period
Tenorsarefun 3 years ago
I love how my comment has a negative 1. There really are some dumbass people on youtube. If you actually saw ANY of bill bachman's drumset videos, and the complexity of his playing, maybe you'd shut the fuck up. p.s. If you really want to get technical, he's played with neal morse multiple times, (and if you don't know who that is, look it up. You'll be amazed. that is if you know anything about music) so if playing with a BAND is really all you care about, then yes, he can do that also.
Tenorsarefun 2 years ago
hahaha. I will raise yours back up to 0 from -1 because you are right.
dustinlutzdrum 2 years ago
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you shot is too tight
MAWFmicrowrestling 3 years ago
thats how real tenors sound :D bill is a badass and really nice in person
lvcavender 3 years ago 6
he's really funny too lol
yeahyeahyeahyeahya 3 years ago
nice shirt.
HNIC94 3 years ago
Dude it's looks like they speeded up the video (I know they didn't),but he's fast.......
realautumn 4 years ago
ha quad god. so true.
Chops321 4 years ago 5