We are out here to protect and serve the public. We put our lives in danger,We have family and friends and we never know if we will see them again every time go into our shift, You should respect that. We have bad and good days, Just like everyone. We are all human beings, I'm not sure if you noticed but they are good and bad christians, they are good and bad people, they will always have good and bad on planet earth and no matter how much life goes on it will always be there,MESSAGE ME 4 MORE
We need to take every possible safety measure steps, You never know what to expect as a police officer, It is a very dangerous job. If you are not a police officer or if you dont study about police officers jobs you will never be aware of why we take this safety measures, We all have 1 life and as a police officer its easy to lose that 1 life. You might "think" that we are being aggressive but we are not, We are simply protecting our lives.
@101Whiteboi You might not agree with me or any police officers but at the end of everyday, 1000's of lives are saved. We are honestly good people, Otherwise we wont be serving and protecting. Life is Life it wont stop until God says, Everything has a reason. Guess what - Deal With it -
@Neverforgethaiti Hmm, please list the federal statute that explicitly says you can film without consent. All I can find in the Electronic Communications Privacy Act is 18 U.S.C. §2511 (2)(d) where it states that it shall not be unlawful for a person not acting under the color of law to videotape IF they have prior consent of the parties. If you see the specific text that concerns recording in public places, please reply back.
@kqcrazii I'm not aware of any Federal Statute, but there is the recent Federal Case Law of Glik v. Boston that reaffirms that citizens have the right to film public officials carrying out their duties in the public.
You're a trouble maker. Why don't you just let these guys continue protecting you and your loved ones the way they have been doing it for years. What if you weren't in that group of kids at 3:00am and they were on their way to your house to kill you? Would you want the cop to stop and I.D. them in that case? Leave the guy alone and get a job.
@mpd0353 he's a trouble maker? how so? police are expected to protect society and uphold the law, no play god and make up laws in ignorance. Your a sheep if you think he's a trouble maker for holding a corrupt officer accountable.
@mpd0353 So then the police should have the right to stop and assault anyone that they want to at any time ? You are a moron ! Not everyne walking around at 3:00 am is a « bad seed » ! People are allowed to walk around at whatever time that they wish to do so without having the police use their power hungry actions to disturb them when to do absolutely NOTHING WRONG !
It doesn't seem quite clear whether you're legally allowed to record or not in that particular situation. And for those who argue otherwise, the law in many instances is not simply black and white. Looks like the guy was bullshitting, but so was the officer. "Integrity" of the investigation, lol.
What the cops did to this kid (if he's telling the truth) was wrong.
However, this kid is absolutely dead-wrong about recording on private property. There doesn't need to be any signage whatsoever, to warn you that you can't video or audio record.
This is private property, to which this kid is a guest. He can't record if one single person on the property objects.
This kid is confusing two different laws.
Just the same as a cop can't go into your house and start recording.
@counterstryke What part of the sibewalk,street or police station is private property. From your statement I take it that you call your police station there where you're at the cop house,as in the only cop in your town works out of his house. What part of this video was taped at,in or on private property? I missed that part. You got one thing right and thats on private property rights about filming and taping, well almost.. it only works for the property owner and those he gives power to do so.
Your question doesn't make sense. Street is public property just like a sidewalk unless the governing principalities decide to change this for some weird reason (like martial law or something) You already know this based on your response.
Anywhere where the residence property line goes to and intersects with a public street or side walk is the residence' property. You know this, I don't know why you're asking. Submitted taxes doesn't mean you own what the Gov wants to use it for
@counterstryke Freedom is something that needs no debate,yet counterstryke wants to debate it so it holds no value to him. I was asking a smartass question and yet he didn't get it, to bad for him. Freedom is not a hand out. It is and always will be something we need to fight for. The video I was talking about was in the public realm and has not a thing to do with private anything.
@counterstryke The sign they have posted on the wall at 2:38 legally forfeits any expectation of privacy anyone present may have. So, public place or not, recording is allowed, as ruled by the Supreme Court.
Yes, couldn't have said it much better myself. I noticed in the Glik case, the Federal Supreme Court, was annoyed that an officer would even try to claim immunity stating that it was unclear. It is quite clear, and their immunity claim was rejected. This case is important int hat it now becomes a case-law, which by the way, there are already case-laws out there regarding this issue. Law enforcement wants to coverup their misdeeds? This, disgusts me!
@counterstryke Actually, cops DO go into your house and start recording. If you let them in, or they have a warrant, they have free reign. As for private property, if it were, the station has a sign up ( 2:38 ) which forfeits their right to privacy since they're doing it themselves, as ruled by the Supreme Court. But that's unnecessary, since a Government building meant for public service (law enforcement) is the very definition of PUBLIC property.
nice job guy..the thing is that everyone should know and will soon find out that all cops are pigs and they can do what ever they want shoot you your dog your family and they have the whole state on their side. and there is nothing anyone can do about it. we need to destroy this rotten system
Oh come on. You want to take his statements in back so they are not recorded, plain and simple. Glad I live in a one party permission to record state. I do not have to ask for permission to record.
you are a little weasel and wouldn't have the balls to walk into a new jersey state police headquarters and file a complaint it's assholes like you that make police work more difficult.
Yes, the midnight shift supervisor IS enough. You think they don't know who works what days?
Even McDonalds keeps track of that shit.
You're just a sycophantic piece of human waste happy to suck up to authority and bow down for you lashing. YOU are everything wrong with this country. Pathetic human garbage that just loves to be a sheep.
@smedvek Of course not -- because midnight shift supervisor of which area?? there is more than on midnight shift superviosor. Its not like he was the only midnight shift supervisor in the entire country. Do you honestly think that will purse that any further without names or even a description of the guy.
At the end of the day he has no evidence what so ever --
@smedvek beside supervisor means nothing.. When I was working in a call center and people asked to speak to the supervisor I just passed the phone to the guy sitting next to me who just said he was supervising. If you put every idiot through to the actual supervisor when they demanded to speak to the supervisor the bosses would be overwhlemed with phone calls
@smedvek regardless they probably threw it in the bin anyway.. If he had a name of the midnight shift supervisor and had a case then he should take it to court.
But he can't because "midnight shift supervisor isnt enough and he has no evidence"
@smedvek Midnight shift supervisor is enough, as long as that's the proper (or reasonably close) title. The dept. can determine who it was in just a moment's research.
Surely you have a RIGHT to record your own complaint in whichever way you see fit.
They are all public servants. They work for you. I cannot see any reasonable excuse for preventing you to record this. Using "security" as the justification just does not cut it.
Didn't Benjamin Franklin say, "Those who give up liberty in the name of safety deserve neither liberty or safety"?
Perhaps you should remind the next officer you deal with of this? ;)
you have your rights but you will loose your case. they won't fire anybody or punish any cops for this incident. your basicaly wasting your time. i don't know that you will change anything with your complaint. you need to look up local laws for your state and county. they can be more strict then federal laws.
@jherrera980: A point of pursuing an administrative solution to a violation of your constitutional rights is that it then qualifies you to sue under 42 USC 1983.
Still, whether you sue under state law (as an alternative prerequisite for 42 USC 1983) or go the simple route, you still need to either learn a lot of law and spend a lot of time to pursue the lawsuit yourself, or pay buck to an attorney to pursue it.
How stupid are you? You just start giving him the facts right there in the doorway. The cops have your statement on audio and video since they are recording in the atrium! Cops = 1 Hippy = 0
When a cop tells you that you can not record them, it is because they are criminals, themselves and they do not want you to expose their tyranny. That is obvious.
funny when a high school kid has to educate the police of a capitol city
lucktr8 1 week ago
knowledge is power, thank you for this guys
bigdog7013 3 weeks ago
I love it. Scared of a Bic lighter? from a scrawny white kid with excellent oration skillz. Pleez. what total cowards.
FUMrBush 3 weeks ago
We are out here to protect and serve the public. We put our lives in danger,We have family and friends and we never know if we will see them again every time go into our shift, You should respect that. We have bad and good days, Just like everyone. We are all human beings, I'm not sure if you noticed but they are good and bad christians, they are good and bad people, they will always have good and bad on planet earth and no matter how much life goes on it will always be there,MESSAGE ME 4 MORE
101Whiteboi 4 weeks ago
@101Whiteboi CONTINUE -
We need to take every possible safety measure steps, You never know what to expect as a police officer, It is a very dangerous job. If you are not a police officer or if you dont study about police officers jobs you will never be aware of why we take this safety measures, We all have 1 life and as a police officer its easy to lose that 1 life. You might "think" that we are being aggressive but we are not, We are simply protecting our lives.
101Whiteboi 4 weeks ago
@101Whiteboi You might not agree with me or any police officers but at the end of everyday, 1000's of lives are saved. We are honestly good people, Otherwise we wont be serving and protecting. Life is Life it wont stop until God says, Everything has a reason. Guess what - Deal With it -
101Whiteboi 4 weeks ago
Whether or not you're allowed to film a person depends on local privacy laws.
kqcrazii 1 month ago
@kqcrazii Having the right to be recording in PUBLIC PLACES is a FEDERAL law, not a local law, its falls under wiretaping laws and that is FEDERAL !
Neverforgethaiti 1 month ago
@Neverforgethaiti Hmm, please list the federal statute that explicitly says you can film without consent. All I can find in the Electronic Communications Privacy Act is 18 U.S.C. §2511 (2)(d) where it states that it shall not be unlawful for a person not acting under the color of law to videotape IF they have prior consent of the parties. If you see the specific text that concerns recording in public places, please reply back.
kqcrazii 1 month ago
@kqcrazii I'm not aware of any Federal Statute, but there is the recent Federal Case Law of Glik v. Boston that reaffirms that citizens have the right to film public officials carrying out their duties in the public.
1775novten 1 month ago
just another police academy reject...
FenerbahceSK7584 1 month ago
You're a trouble maker. Why don't you just let these guys continue protecting you and your loved ones the way they have been doing it for years. What if you weren't in that group of kids at 3:00am and they were on their way to your house to kill you? Would you want the cop to stop and I.D. them in that case? Leave the guy alone and get a job.
mpd0353 2 months ago
@mpd0353 Wow... someone that believes security trumps constitutional freedom... Thomas Jefferson would slap the piss out of you
Elenkhos 2 months ago
@mpd0353 he's a trouble maker? how so? police are expected to protect society and uphold the law, no play god and make up laws in ignorance. Your a sheep if you think he's a trouble maker for holding a corrupt officer accountable.
RainbowCanyons 2 months ago
@mpd0353 So then the police should have the right to stop and assault anyone that they want to at any time ? You are a moron ! Not everyne walking around at 3:00 am is a « bad seed » ! People are allowed to walk around at whatever time that they wish to do so without having the police use their power hungry actions to disturb them when to do absolutely NOTHING WRONG !
Neverforgethaiti 1 month ago
It doesn't seem quite clear whether you're legally allowed to record or not in that particular situation. And for those who argue otherwise, the law in many instances is not simply black and white. Looks like the guy was bullshitting, but so was the officer. "Integrity" of the investigation, lol.
kawola17 2 months ago
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freesyboy91 3 months ago
all NH cops are moron's
paramedic218nh 4 months ago
What the cops did to this kid (if he's telling the truth) was wrong.
However, this kid is absolutely dead-wrong about recording on private property. There doesn't need to be any signage whatsoever, to warn you that you can't video or audio record.
This is private property, to which this kid is a guest. He can't record if one single person on the property objects.
This kid is confusing two different laws.
Just the same as a cop can't go into your house and start recording.
counterstryke 6 months ago
@counterstryke LOL you sir are wrong. it is a municipal building. It is payed for by public tax dolars. It is public property.
macchef01 5 months ago 2
@macchef01
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
counterstryke 5 months ago
@counterstryke What part of the sibewalk,street or police station is private property. From your statement I take it that you call your police station there where you're at the cop house,as in the only cop in your town works out of his house. What part of this video was taped at,in or on private property? I missed that part. You got one thing right and thats on private property rights about filming and taping, well almost.. it only works for the property owner and those he gives power to do so.
openbreakwhat 4 months ago 2
@openbreakwhat
Your question doesn't make sense. Street is public property just like a sidewalk unless the governing principalities decide to change this for some weird reason (like martial law or something) You already know this based on your response.
Anywhere where the residence property line goes to and intersects with a public street or side walk is the residence' property. You know this, I don't know why you're asking. Submitted taxes doesn't mean you own what the Gov wants to use it for
counterstryke 4 months ago
@counterstryke Freedom is something that needs no debate,yet counterstryke wants to debate it so it holds no value to him. I was asking a smartass question and yet he didn't get it, to bad for him. Freedom is not a hand out. It is and always will be something we need to fight for. The video I was talking about was in the public realm and has not a thing to do with private anything.
openbreakwhat 4 months ago 2
@openbreakwhat
If you think a police station is public property then you are not only a fool, you're an idiot.
counterstryke 4 months ago
@counterstryke Well fill me in then smart guy.
openbreakwhat 4 months ago
@counterstryke The sign they have posted on the wall at 2:38 legally forfeits any expectation of privacy anyone present may have. So, public place or not, recording is allowed, as ruled by the Supreme Court.
galathonredd 4 months ago
@galathonredd
Yes, couldn't have said it much better myself. I noticed in the Glik case, the Federal Supreme Court, was annoyed that an officer would even try to claim immunity stating that it was unclear. It is quite clear, and their immunity claim was rejected. This case is important int hat it now becomes a case-law, which by the way, there are already case-laws out there regarding this issue. Law enforcement wants to coverup their misdeeds? This, disgusts me!
fmnma1 4 months ago
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@openbreakwhat "is and always will be something we need to fight for."
LOL these days its more "whinging like a little girl" for you rights.
badpanda84 4 months ago
@counterstryke Actually, cops DO go into your house and start recording. If you let them in, or they have a warrant, they have free reign. As for private property, if it were, the station has a sign up ( 2:38 ) which forfeits their right to privacy since they're doing it themselves, as ruled by the Supreme Court. But that's unnecessary, since a Government building meant for public service (law enforcement) is the very definition of PUBLIC property.
They were wrong either way you look at it.
galathonredd 4 months ago
that fat cop is a discrace to LE everywhere
wms201 6 months ago 2
He looks like someone stole his lunch money at school...he looks 12.
1033go 6 months ago
nice job guy..the thing is that everyone should know and will soon find out that all cops are pigs and they can do what ever they want shoot you your dog your family and they have the whole state on their side. and there is nothing anyone can do about it. we need to destroy this rotten system
dillinger9999 8 months ago
nice job dude
cincinatus90 8 months ago
Oh come on. You want to take his statements in back so they are not recorded, plain and simple. Glad I live in a one party permission to record state. I do not have to ask for permission to record.
TheGrayman1234 9 months ago
i love the way you think, im a law major with lots of secret inside info, got screwed and feloned many a times....im 11 for 11 recently repping self
freight66 9 months ago
and you dont even have audio of the officer taking your phone..
Compliant with no evidence or names are useless..
otherwise every drunk idiot or crimincal who gets arrested would complain.
badpanda84 9 months ago
you are a little weasel and wouldn't have the balls to walk into a new jersey state police headquarters and file a complaint it's assholes like you that make police work more difficult.
alphadogs1 9 months ago
Nice work but what happened with the complaint?
Humanleague002 10 months ago
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badpanda84 9 months ago
@Humanleague002 unless he want to press charges they wont do anything with the complaint.
and if he wanted to press charges then maybe he should speak to his lawyers frist
besides without names or badge numbers they can't invesitage ( the "midnight shift supervisor" isnt enough).
badpanda84 9 months ago
@badpanda84
Yes, the midnight shift supervisor IS enough. You think they don't know who works what days?
Even McDonalds keeps track of that shit.
You're just a sycophantic piece of human waste happy to suck up to authority and bow down for you lashing. YOU are everything wrong with this country. Pathetic human garbage that just loves to be a sheep.
Go fuck yourself, you worthless sack of shit.
smedvek 9 months ago
@smedvek Of course not -- because midnight shift supervisor of which area?? there is more than on midnight shift superviosor. Its not like he was the only midnight shift supervisor in the entire country. Do you honestly think that will purse that any further without names or even a description of the guy.
At the end of the day he has no evidence what so ever --
badpanda84 9 months ago
@smedvek beside supervisor means nothing.. When I was working in a call center and people asked to speak to the supervisor I just passed the phone to the guy sitting next to me who just said he was supervising. If you put every idiot through to the actual supervisor when they demanded to speak to the supervisor the bosses would be overwhlemed with phone calls
badpanda84 9 months ago
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badpanda84 9 months ago
@smedvek regardless they probably threw it in the bin anyway.. If he had a name of the midnight shift supervisor and had a case then he should take it to court.
But he can't because "midnight shift supervisor isnt enough and he has no evidence"
badpanda84 9 months ago
@smedvek If the midnight shift supervisor IS enough then why dosent he take it to court. and sue ( and get some money out of it)
Because it isnt enough.. no court would accept that.
badpanda84 9 months ago
@smedvek Midnight shift supervisor is enough, as long as that's the proper (or reasonably close) title. The dept. can determine who it was in just a moment's research.
ytuseruber 7 months ago
Very well done.
Surely you have a RIGHT to record your own complaint in whichever way you see fit.
They are all public servants. They work for you. I cannot see any reasonable excuse for preventing you to record this. Using "security" as the justification just does not cut it.
Didn't Benjamin Franklin say, "Those who give up liberty in the name of safety deserve neither liberty or safety"?
Perhaps you should remind the next officer you deal with of this? ;)
TheHolySpirit 10 months ago
Ya...right when you happen to turn the phone off he snatches it... right
cahpSON 11 months ago
people in new hampshire have nothing better to do
barclayangus 1 year ago
you are lame but the PD is lamer
barker191 1 year ago
A.C.A.B.
yinzjagoffs 1 year ago
Where is the follow up on your complaint?
Did they (predictably) give the cop-2 step?
(We investigated and found no wrongdoing by any officer...)
HammerNH 1 year ago
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@HammerNH "Did they (predictably) give the cop-2 step?
(We investigated and found no wrongdoing by any officer...)"
Of course they did.. because he cant even identify the officers name...other than the "mid night shift supervisor"
badpanda84 9 months ago
More fat fucks on the taxpayers doughnuts & dime
NoLongerFooled 1 year ago 2
I get out of work at 3:30am. Does that make me a criminal?
Luvanicebum 1 year ago
Who's watching the guards the guards themselves? Sometimes cops get the idea they are above the law and forget who pays their salaries!
crossingtheswamp1972 1 year ago
you have your rights but you will loose your case. they won't fire anybody or punish any cops for this incident. your basicaly wasting your time. i don't know that you will change anything with your complaint. you need to look up local laws for your state and county. they can be more strict then federal laws.
jherrera980 1 year ago
@jherrera980: A point of pursuing an administrative solution to a violation of your constitutional rights is that it then qualifies you to sue under 42 USC 1983.
Still, whether you sue under state law (as an alternative prerequisite for 42 USC 1983) or go the simple route, you still need to either learn a lot of law and spend a lot of time to pursue the lawsuit yourself, or pay buck to an attorney to pursue it.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
How stupid are you? You just start giving him the facts right there in the doorway. The cops have your statement on audio and video since they are recording in the atrium! Cops = 1 Hippy = 0
ArrestAJudgeKit 1 year ago
Fight the power!
CaptainPommby 1 year ago
When a cop tells you that you can not record them, it is because they are criminals, themselves and they do not want you to expose their tyranny. That is obvious.
txballoonman 1 year ago
Keep fighting the good fight mate.
Police have their rights and responsibilities, but this stance they're taking universally disallowing photographing or recording is just not right.
Looking forward to updates.
bertomartin 1 year ago