Daniel film of John F. Kennedy assassination

[hownos]

why would he not keep the camera on the car - what an idiot.

[Dogheadj]

@hownos He probably didn't know that was an historic moment. I doubt he knew that JFK's head had been shot off at that time.

[micmoable]

Filming for this one wasn't too well executed-----but the president was!

[sabih21]

damn! i was hoping to see the intensity inside the limo.

[pajasa62]

Interesting thing about where this was filmed, (just past the underpass) this is very close to where Dan Rather was standing and waiting for KRLD's Jim Underwood to literally throw film out of Camera Car 3 so it could be processed and aired on TV as quickly as possible.

[surrealdirector]

We should all demand that these gov't files be unsealed and revealed NOW.

[bapyou]

Think about it:

Let's assume that Lee Harvey Oswald was a lone-nut psycho case. What reason, then, could the government have for keeping all of the Warren commission evidence sealed for decades? What? If he's just a lone mental case, why all the secrecy? Who the hell is so afraid - and what are they afraid of - that they keep all the information secret?

Unless, of course, someone is awfully guilty of something. Who/what is being protected? & for what end(s) are they being protected?

[lurkersteve]

Can you let me search your house and computer? I mean, if you aren't guilty of anything, then you wouldn't mind. Right?

[bapyou]

"Can you let me search your house and computer? I mean, if you aren't guilty of anything, then you wouldn't mind. Right?"

You are trying (unsuccessfully) to corner me using a false analogy.

Here is why your analogy is false:

My home & my computer - and everything stored in them - were not paid for by the taxpayers of the United States of America. I and my house are not a public government institution.

Your analogy has no basis in social reality as it is.

[Dogheadj]

@bapyou You can search my home and PC anytime you'd like. You'll find nothing incriminating in either.

On the other hand, I'm a Libertarian, and I'm sick unto death of government intrusions of all types being forced upon us. If we don't stand up, America, we're going to go down.

I don't trust most of the political figures ruling our country. But I DO trust the American people to know what's right, and what's wrong. We had better get back to our foundations and Constitution.

[arther1045]

bapyou what do you know about gov't files. the nuts act like this is the first and only time gov't files have been sealed. You nuts just never stop.

[bapyou]

"what do you know about gov't files"?

What do you know? If Oswald was a lone nut, then what could there possibly be that the government needs to keep from the public? All of the Warren commission evidence & files are sealed for another twenty years. Why? What do they have to fear? Someone must be very afraid of something - or someone - else. What else can one conclude from such opacity?

There are five questions above. When you reply back to me, you will not answer one of them. Guaranteed.

[arther1045]

you argument is silly at best. many gov't files are seasled . This is typical of you people you want it to be a conspiracy so bad that you grasp at anything. If you don't know what is in the files then how do you know there is anything sinister. you are making that up.

[bapyou]

"If you don't know what is in the files then how do you know there is anything sinister. [You need a question mark there arther] you are making that up."

As I stated to you in my previous comment: You did answer a single one of the questions that I posed to you before.

"many gov't files are seasled (sic)"

True. But again: If Oswald was a lone nut, what could there possibly be that the government needs to keep from the public? If he acted alone, why not be completely transparent? Why?

[arther1045]

i see i am dealing with someone who takes the time to get online and correct peoples typing. you people amaze me with that.

now back to what is worth my time.

again you are obviously totally ignorant about sealed gov;t files and the reason for it. You don't know anything about it but you are trying to make a point with it.so you seriously think something is in the files to show a conspiracy? give me a break.

[bapyou]

"i see i am dealing with someone who takes the time to get online and correct peoples typing. you people amaze me with that."

Glad to be of service.

2. "you are obviously totally ignorant about sealed gov;t files...You don't know anything about it but you are trying to make a point with it."

OK, let's assume that you know something about sealed gov't files. What do you think is to be found in the files? And why are they sealed?

You have the floor.

[arther1045]

you are acting like the reason they are sealed muct be because there was a conspiracy. but you ignore many records of other cases are also sealed and they have nothing to do with crimes or assasinations. You are being silly to think the documents are going to show a conspiracy.

[Dogheadj]

@bapyou I agree with you on one thing, bapyou. Why would the LBJ administration seal the files for 75 years if there nothing to hide?

LBJ and J. Edgar Hoover were up to their nuts in this. LBJ was about to go to prison because of his connections with Billy Sol Estes and his cotton scam. He was also implicated in the Bobby Baker scandal. Do you remember, or were'nt you alive at that time?

JFK intended to drop LBJ from the '64 ticket, and intended to fire Hoover after he had won re-election.

[bapyou]

@Dogheadj Nobody fucked with J. Edgar Hoover and lived to tell about it.

What's the lesson in that?

The lesson is this: Never piss off a closted gay cross-dresser who hates himself.

[Lyndehouse]

Good point--evil can not answer truth in the light

[Lyndehouse]

Are you paid by the CIA or do you have authoritarian personality disorder? It's one of the two.

[arther1045]

lyne simple case of me not suffereing fools lightly.

[bapyou]

Simple case of you not being able to answer the questions posed to you.

Fool? Fuck you, you insulting asshole. Who died and made you the fucking Pope of YouTube?

2. Here's the deal: I've read back through our exchange. OK, let's a make another assumption. Let's assume that there is no conspiracy. Then why are the documents sealed?

You can't get around my questions because there is no reason for the documents to be sealed, unless they're fucking hiding something. Look at Dick Cheney today.

[arther1045]

againyou are ignorant of sealed documents. Warren wanted all the files opened in the 60s. The files are sealed ( and their are very few of them still sealed ) because peoples names were involved that didn't want their names known. There were accusations made against people, it was investigated and the accususations were proven to be nonesense. But peoples names were still involved. If you neighbor accused you of shooting a President and you didn't would you want your name out there.

[arther1045]

documents are sealed in all kind of cases that have nothing to do with conspiracies or murders. Again you need to study the issue. Merry Christmas by the way.

[Obelisk2290]

The documents were released in 1992 and where called the jfk act because of the movie

[rocknrollphilip]

so, this film was shot just after the shooting, as the limo came out from under the triple underpass? thanks for posting this dramatic footage.

[elperromagico]

God, was Zapruder the only person filming on that day who could hold a damn camera steady?

If you went only by the home movies, you'd swear Dealey Plaza was full of drunks on 22 November.

[JackKentC]

haha

[sabih21]

@JackKentC its not that werent holding them steady, its the fact that back in the day, it was just rolls of film(no digital media) , which meant if damaged or aged, they will have a shaky effect.

[lucapaliuca]

MAN, YOU're A CLOWN! I WOULD SAY - A REAL CONSPIRACY NUT in action!

[florchpod]

I am fascinated by the fact that whenever anyone challenges the findings of the Warren Commission they are considered a " clown " or a " conspiracy nut. "

I also find it interesting how many people choose to ignore all the information and facts that were discovered and brought out by the House Select Committee on Assassination back in the 70's.

[gonzalomolinolo]

I think Lee Oswald shot Kennedy, but I think the govt. hasn't revealed everything.

[bapyou]

"I think Lee Oswald shot Kennedy, but I think the govt. hasn't revealed everything."

Of course they haven't revealed everything. If Oswald was a lone nut, then what could there possibly be that the government needs to keep from the public? What?

All of the Warren commission evidence & files are sealed for another twenty years. Why? What do they have to fear? What?

Someone must be very afraid of something - or someone - else. What else can one conclude from such opacity?

[pajasa62]

Not that I'm one of these conspiracy clowns, but, but it was such a shame the person shooting this film didn't do a better job (or maybe positioned just been a little further away) because the car has just come from the underpass and was speeding to the hospital.

[CaptchaU]

pajasa62, 'men in suits' confiscated all film and photo evidence at the scene of the crime. Even the Zapruder film was later discovered to have a few frames missing, after Life magazine had possession of it a while. Obviously Abraham Zapruder was not seen that day since he was standing under a gazebo-like structure. But they got to his film later. Listen to witness interviews, they said men in suits id'ing themselves as Secret Service took their film. But no Secret Service was in the area.

[pajasa62]

You are not doing yourself a favor by involving yourself in the "for profit" conspiracy crowd. That Zapruder alteration comment is nonsense. Within an hour and 1/2, Zapruder was at WFAA-TV, trying to get the film processed while on TV. The station did not have an 8mm processor and he took the undeveloped film to a Kodak lab where the original and SEVERAL copies where made and he and others viewed the film. NEVER did Zapruder say the film was altered and in Life's next issue published 31 frames.

[CaptchaU]

It's what happened to it later, pajasa. And I'm not involved in any 'crowd', but why so intense about it?

[pajasa62]

Why so intense? Because so many people in these sites don't give their opinion, they state things as facts and are so polluted by the people that have personally profited from the assassination.

You talk about what happened later to the Zapruder film - given what I said above about the chronology of events on 11/22, as soon as Life mag. got it, they made MORE copies of it. Jim Garrison got a hold of the film and at the '69 trial Zapruder was called to testify and said NOTHING about altering.

[CaptchaU]

It was only discovered recently. And upon extremely close examination. Maybe research a bit more. Thanks for your side of it.

[pajasa62]

COMICAL. I give you detailed facts. - You have the cutes of talking about "research" while giving a few sentences phrases. To back up your statement.....you say NOTHING. (GEE, maybe no one will notice)

[CaptchaU]

No, I just have better things to do than sourcing things for an internet curmudgeon. And with that...

[jubjub444]

he gets shot at the end of the video you can see it

[deathshot]

Watch the video who shows the Driver. Match the driver and you will see the real assassin.

[koplamp]

driver shooting kennedy = a joke.

[Dogheadj]

@koplamp Bill Greer did not shoot JFK. Period. I believe there was a conspiracy (and I've been researching for over 40 years now), but the driver (Bill Greer) did not shoot JFK. God, I wish these kinds of stupid theories could just be laid to rest. Focus on the REAL murderers.

[pat442389]

@Dogheadj exactly i say if you had greer (supposedly willing to kill JFK in public with witnesses) why do you need oswald, other shooters, the w. commission and everything else? all you need to greer to kill JFK b4 or after a motorcade and have him killed or arrested right after. then i also say witnesses said what they saw and heard that day, why hasnt 1 ever said greer shot, or looked armed? they did say he stopped or slowed down though. investigate that

[Dogheadj]

@pat442389 Greer didn't shoot anybody. The videos that supposedly show Greer with a gun are simply reflections of off Roy Kellermans' hair. Kellermanwas the SS Agent in the front passenger seat.Clint Hill, the only man to react that day, was on assignment to guard Jackie. At the first shot, Kellerman should have thrown himself into the backseat, protecting both JFK and Jackie. The fact that he did nothing is either indicative of his cowardness, or his part in the assassination plot.

[pat442389]

@Dogheadj yeah i know all of that i was just saying to ppl who say greer did the kill shot why do they need oswald or a motorcade and all that. in my opinion kellerman was not at fault. he told greer to step on it and this was the strangest motorcade ever. usually theres SS men on the back and side along with police motorcycles. kellermen should have done that but i find flyod boring more at fault

[tvcommercialman]

I guess that's what Kennedy gets for trying to clean up the CIA and take power away from people who are corrupt. Sick bunch of shit, what people will do for greed and power. And by the way, 9-11 was equally played off on us Like were supposed to believe what happened is the way the told us. I guess "they" depend on vast ignorance fed by the media, and people to not care about the truth.

[Dogheadj]

@tvcommercialman I can't disagree with you. as a former corporate safety manager for a high profile demo company, I can tell you that those buildings did not come down due to forces of nature. They came down due to much more sinister forces. I worked there after the attacks. I know.

[EversmanSAT]

its a really touchy situation with asking where the shot came from, the shot was said to come from the front but wouldn't the exit wound be out the back of his head not the front? the only thing that backs it up is that his body shifts backwards instead of forward like the wound shows. the whole thing just cancels out the possibility of it being a sniper shot or a front seat driver shot...idk

[EddieJHamilton]

That's tragic. Waving at him and not knowing he'd been shot.

There is on YouTube, interviews with eyewitnesses who describe shooting from the grassy knoll. Get it from the source. Search for SM Holland. Only the government could cover that up.

[cdddraftsman]

Witnesses Make Wild and Wacky Statements and so does EddieJHamilton !.........Anybody who reads the unfiltered and unselected witness testimony will quickly find that even honest sober witnesses have wild, wacky, and often downright bizarre elements in their testimony. Consider, for example: Sam Holland, who thought that after Kennedy was shot Jackie "jumped up and tried to get over in the back seat to him."

[TrueNovice]

Holland also said he saw one of the SS men pull out a machine gun. This was thought not to be true until photos were published showing an agent brandishing an AR-15 (a civilian M-16). Holland was watching the motorcade from the overpass, from his vantage point that's probably what he thought was happening. Jackie did jump up over the hood.

[TrueNovice]

More importantly the retired cop thought shots were coming from the area of the picket fence in front of Kennedy. Even if, in retrospect, every aspect of what he said is not known to be correct, everything else he said seems to have had a factual foundation.

[BlargyBlue]

Well Jackie did jump onto the back part of the car. She later said that in her confusion she thought if she picked up the pieces of skull and brain she could put him back together again. So Jackie did "jump up" and try to help her husband.

[luckymazuma]

Laura Bush said the very same thing when georgie wacked his head on a fireplace mantle but for her it worked!I think her success was by putting the brain parts up george's ass and just leaving the other bits on her shoe.