audi doesnt have esp on. must have been 2wd. quattro would have pulled it out with the front tires. I got my rear wheels stuck on ice and they didnt hardly spin. it just drove out.
I'm not an audi nor a BMW fan boy... what is happening is normal torsen operation, is you want to exit a situation like that you just have to press the brakes, torsen diffs operates as an open diff when theres no resistance on one of the outputs. That was forced, and does not represent any real life situation... all it proved is that a bmw can exit a dyno with ease.
HAHA, they either had the ESP turned off, or they had an Audi with malfunctioning Quattro, OR they found themselves a rear drive Audi! lol... Too funny.
Older Audis with 2nd or 3rd gen. Quattro were the best, considering that the center and rear differential could be locked, so the car wouldn't move only if all rear and one front wheel were on rollers/air. The newer and simpler Quattros use Anti-spin to wheels with limited grip, so the power is sent to other wheels, either front or rear. Conclusion: This little trick has no more effect at 5th gen. Quattro.
This happens because A8 uses torsen differentials, which theoretically take the minimal amount of friction, multiply it *3, and send it to other wheels with better grip. When there's no grip (which happens only at rollers) there's nothing to mutiply (0*3=0) so it sends nothing to the other wheels.
Audi utilizes two different 4motion or quatro or 4wd or awd whatever u call it solutions. I have read an article somewhere, Mechanical Quatro system would get off the rollers no problem. Its the electronic one that was used in the audi in the vid.
@Akotube84 Kommt drauf an wleches Modell mit welchen Reifen man nimmt. Weniger welcher Allrad.
Wie z.B. in dem Video mit dem Allradvergleich, da sagt selbst der Kommentator am Ende das der Audi wegen der höchsten Motorleistung gewinnt. Und hier nur zur Info, wenn man einen Allroad mit Untersetzung, Geländereifen, Biturbo V6 mit 250PS und Offroad Suspension gegen einen 184PS X5 mit Strassenreifen ohne Untersetzung und 2t antreten lässt, ist es kein Wunder. Der Nissan hatte sogar Sommereifen!
Меня незаконно забанили(с пометкой снятия блокировки никогда) жидо-админы-сионисты на drom ru за то, что я написал под своими сообщениями подпись "НЕ ЕВРЕЙ" (да и то писал в комметариях на главной странице) и за это я получил пожизненный бан. Сижу в незаконном бане с 16 марта... :(
Правила форума не нарушал и нет у меня реальных баллов, чтобы сидеть в бане!
Наверное админы дрома каждое утро и вечером перед сном читают толмут с торой, типа, убей гоя и всё такое :(
ok for you i explain again: if you dirve a 4wd and your rearwheels are spinning (like on the roles or blank ice) and your frontwheels have traction you have to vlock your rearwheels with your handbrake to get the power to the frontwheels so you can get off the no-traction-ground where your rearwheels are...
@S2audicoupeS2 "if you have a 4wd and your rearwheels are spinning and you frontwheels have traction you have to lock your rearwheels with your handbrake"
Thats only true for old audis using the oudated torsendifferential. Its not possible on other awd cars especially not clutch based cars who don´t allow wheelspin in the firstplace.
And you cannot use the handbrake on modern cars since its electronic and is automatically disabled when you drive.
@HeavyweightThinker the xDrive system does all that for you!! you DON'T have to pull handbrake! that is all about this video. xDrive does that while quattro does not. this is how the facts are and there is absolutly no need for any explanation, how it does that.
well you see clearly that the BMW is using the handbrakes.. at his 2nd time on the roles he forst miss to use them you can clearly see the rearwheels spinning like the audi-ones - the he stop giving gas and uses the handbrakes and the car moves - this test is BMW-fake-shit! the A8 would get out of it in the same way.. just block the rearwheels and the power get moved to the front...
@S2audicoupeS2 "you clearly see the BMW is using handbrakes"
The BMW has a clutch based awd, the wheels cannot spin because the clutch provides a rigid connection between axles. The audi has a differential which allows wheelspin. Thats the actual point, not your handbrake nonsense.
"just block the rear wheels" Wow, what kind of innovative awd is that? Pull the handbrake?!?
And what about the new audis with electronic handbrake where you have to stand still and brake to activate?
esto es un fraude, esta mal utilizado el coche, y es una prueba publicitando bmw. el audi no sale por muchas circunstancias al cual se le estan aplicando. Habria que decir que los rodillos utilizan casi rozamiento neutro y en la naturaleza no existe...
@XtrAMassivEi totally, u need more gas, to save the brakes, it lets it roll for a bit before it sends power to the front, as an audi owner i know this first hand, all cars that have awd are set up defferently, you gotta know how it works to be able to use when u need it most, but in the real world, audi's quattro system is just great, it works when you need it to.
fuck all u Audi shit box fans. fuck audi the heavy peice of shit, good looking head lights and that it nothing else. BMW pumps audi on any day of the fkn week. u all cant just hack it.
This is not fake guys, read about Xdrive, its adaptive, so the full power of engine can go on front wheels if nessesery, and quattro has 40-60 or 30-70, so only 30 0r 40 percent of power can not move the veichle, do you understand that now?
That is not the point. All these test are worthless because they are all counting on disadvantage of torsen. The front wheels don't move because there is no torque on back wheels. If the ESP is on this usually doesn't happen and if it does, the simple trick is to press a brake and it moves. In real life situations, quattro shows what it's capable of. I'm not saying X-drive is bad, but this kind of videos are just stupid.
@XtrAMassivE "If the ESP is on this usually doesn´t happen"
The ESP was on. Its always on during those tests because its irrelevant whether its on or not. Thats because the threshold for the electronic differential is setup for high reving imbalance to prvent the engine from choking and sparing the brakes. Audi writes that in the torsen manuals for its mechanics.
The brake trick doesn´t work in that case either cause the brake applies 70% to the front.
@XtrAMassivE "In real life situation, quattro shows what it´s capable of."
Sorry bro but that is absolute nonsense. First of all both the torsen system used in the longitudinal engined audis as well as the x-drive system aren´t real awds. They have no LSD on no axle, they are dependend on ESP (which is deactivated above 100km/h for both cars), and the torsen is not lockable, its an open differential.
These are traction-aid systems for minor conditions and less important than the tires.
To make such a test fair, each car should be driven by its own factory test driver, not some biased marketing reps. Every car should be tested to make sure it's in stock configuration, and only then the results will show the top perfomer.
don't worry, those test are made for brainless BMW fans. First of all, that was an A8 and not a A6, so it's a heavier vehicle. The funny thing is that BMW has made a lot of similar videos and they try to show Audi and MB is a bad light but their test always come with different results because they are not so good faking it. And slamming on the gas just won't do it, even kids know...
@bele77 the wheels of Bmw where not spinning...look at it! He used handbrake so the rear wheels dont spin and to be grabed on the roller...and then the front wheels moved it out! Its a very popular trick for proffecionals to do it at their 4x4 on the mountain when their rear wheels are spinning
@geofx09 you look closely. the wheels are still spinning very slowly. the thing is, that he isn't pulling the handbrake, but the xDrive system is preventing wheels to spin. besides you see the wheels on BMW that they are stuttering a little bit, which is common for all electronic systems to do that.
Tja... Das Quattro System mit Torsen Differential ist eben für echte Offroad Situationen gebaut, nicht für irgendwelche doofen Rollentests!
Die einzige Schwäche des Torsens ist das benötigte Gegendrehmoment um vollständig sperren zu können. Dafür ist das Torsen schneller, leichter und zuverlässiger als all der elektronische und elektromechanische X-Drive Plunder!
This is FAKE! Advertising trick ... look at 0:22 ... if the guy kept pushing the gas pedal, the BMW would stay on place too. When the Audi was tested, the guy from behind was yelling "DO NOT PUSH THE GAS PEDAL" but it was not intended to make a fair test ... in such situation you should leave the gas so the system works. Absolutely fake test for advertising purposes ...
@RRT3am no, the guy on the back is saying "du muss ja echt gas geben", that means "u have to give it more gas", and the narrator says "no no no, u dont need to do that...."
@RRT3am "if the guy kept pushing the Gas pedal, the BMW would stay on place too."
No. It has a clutch based awd. The more gas, the faster it would jump forward.
"the guy from behind was yelling "DO NOT PUSH THE GAS PEDAL""
No he was yelling "du musst mal richtig Gas geben", womit er auch recht hat. Wenn du nur wenig Gas gibst greift die EDS nicht ein. Erst ab einer hohen Drehzahldifferenz. Steht so in der Audi Brochüre Nr. 363 Selbstudienprogramm Torsen.
Wer soll das glauben beim Bmw Gasgeben. Und bei den Audi nur im Leerlauf ist ja normal das der Audi mehr Antriebskraft hat auf der Hinterachse. Der Größste FAKE den es gibt.
BMW just LOVES switching off the TC in an Audi and imagine that they beat quattro. You don't see Audi doing that, because we all know who the king is. Quattro all the way.
@lbryan250 this is just so narrowminded comment. "quattro is the king". just why is that? it's like you don't want to see that anything else is better. quattro was good when they weren't any other good AWD. but it ain't anymore. man, look at all the facts, audi is getting worse every year in just about everything.
So- I was driving my Audi with Quattro down a incredibly icy road the other day. I was having no trouble at all- until I came across a set of these friction resistant rollers in the middle of the road. Gee, I hate it when this happens. My front two wheels lined themselves up perfectly on the friction resistant rollers and I stopped right on top of them- and I got stuck!! Can you believe the luck??!! Oh well. I should have bought an xDrive considering all the rollers all over the roads!
@dusky27 Okay, well if you have one end of your car over ice, and the other end over pavement you're going to have the same problem.. its not like this principle only applies to rollers specifically.
@millakilla Here's what I know is true. I can put either the front or the rear set of wheels on ice and the opposite set of wheels on dry pavement- and my Quattro A4 will move forward (or backward) with absolutely no problem at all. Although two wheels are on ice- there is still enough friction generated to enguage Quattro and send the power to the wheels that have the grip.
I'm just tired of tests made by BMW to show there system is soo much better on ROLLERS I don't get stuck on rollers I get stuck in SNOW. I know a dude who bought an x-drive 3-series and hated driving it in the snow since it felt jerky he just drove is whive's subaru instead. An I drove an audi A4 Quattro all winter and when my driveway was filled with 1 foot and a half of snow I pulled out.... my neighbor with the BMW....... he needed a shovel.
The A4 Avant 3.0 TDI Quattro of a friend weighs 1.8 tons compared to my 5 series e60 weighing 1.5 tons. And thats a different class of cars. Just an example. Most BMW are way lighter than most Audis. M3 is lighter than RS5 (about 200kg), M5 lighter than RS6 etc...
@HeavyweightThinker I don't know where you got that bullshit information from. The A4 Avant is 3814 lbs and the E61 5 series touring with xDrive is 4145 lbs. The new 2012 Audi A6 is also lighter than the 2011/2012 BMW 5 series even though the 5 is RWD and the A6 is AWD.
Which one? I was speaking of the A4 8K 3.0 tdi quattro. I don´t know what engines Audi sales in the US. The engine range is much wider in germany. But basically Audi builds the heaviest cars among Merc and BMW. There are several exeptions to the rule of course.
"The 2012 Audi A6 is alsom lighter than the .."
No its not. Both the 3 Liter Diesel (most sold 6 Cylinder engines in germany for these models) weigh the same exact 1795kg (both awd).
@Kitteh2006 And the 5 series has longer wheelbase and is overall more luxurious with more options as standard as well as possible.
You cannot compare these cars without mentioning the engines and transmission. For some models the BMW is lighter for some the Audi. But most Audis are heavier. Also all BMW petrol engines are aluminum/magnesium alloys, both inlet and outlet variable camshaft timing and valvelift. Most Audi engines which are also used in VW are ironcast, single camshaft timing
@Kitteh2006 A6 3.0TDI Quattro S-tronic sedan 1795kg Audi(dot)de webpage
530xdA sedan 1795kg bmw(dot)de
RS5 S-tronic 1800kg
M3 1680kg 1700kg with dkg
All official figures from the german websites. Even a TTRS with 2.5 Liter Engine, manual gearbox and clothroof weighs 5kg more than an SLK55amg with V8, automatic gear and metalroof.
I could go on and on... i´m not pulling anything out of my ass not in a hundred years
It's fun to read excuse after excuse after excuse from the fanboys sitting in the Volkswagon section! Hey little kids.....where are all the "fake" vids showing how much better the Quattro system is over BMW's XDrive? Huh? Ha ha ....the BMW owner gets to work on time in the snow, while the Audi driver is 30 minutes late. Boss asks the Audi guy, "I thought your Audi was a Quattro?" Audi driver shyly replies....."ummmmm, yeah....my Audi is a Quattro." Ha ha ha ha .......lol
It's fake.... Audi Quattro is one of the best tractions systems as well the Subaru symmetrical awd. Is well known that the xDrive of BMW is not the best, specially at the X3, bcause the X3 system is the old Mitsubishi's one, and when i say "old" is really old!
Wenn Torsen 0 Grip an einer Achse hat versagt die Kraftverteilung!
ABER: Mitteldifferential Mitteldifferential, EDS, und ESP würden das ausgleichen und der Audi würde munter von den Rollen fahren.. Ansonsten einfach leicht die Bremse treten..
Es wurde also Offensichtlich manipuliert, meiner Meinung nach sollte BMW dafür vor Gericht und Schadensgeld an Audi zahlen!
Dieses Video (+ das vom Q5) veranlassen mich niemals BMW zu kaufen bzw. einen blick zu würdigen! Einfach peinlich!
Nein, nicht aufgrund eigener Unwissenheit auf Täuschungsversuche anderer schließen.
"Mitteldifferential, EDS und ESP würden das ausgleichen"
Das Mitteldifferential ist ja gerade die Ursache für dieses Verhalten; EDS ist eine Unterfunktion des ESP und wird erst über Schrittgeschwindigkeit bei großer Drehzahldifferenz aktiv.
@Lenkobi Weil er mehr Gas gegeben hat. Jeder Torsenquattro egal ob A8 oder Q5 fährt von diesen Rollen ohne Probleme runter, man muss nur sehr viel Gas geben. Du siehst in dem Video ja schon wie er anfängt nach vorne zu rucken beim beschleunigen.
Diese Videos sind nur Techdemos um zu zeigen wie das System funktioniert.
this is a test done by bmw obviously false, what they mean? xDrive is better that the traction of quattro? BMW obviously are jealous for the efficiency of quattro. Audi when he won four races with the audi bmw where was it? to remember that the audi and bmw who raced home first in races with four-wheel-drive cars, and won, is the best home than BMW and Mercedes for the quattro.
; if an Audi A4 quattro which probably is made in the 90's, is able to move forward in this situation, I bet an A8 can easily do that. This is a fake test payed by BMW in order to discredit quattro system. Look at the backward lamps from the taillights of the A8. they remain ON when the car is trying to go forward.
Well of course the audi is gonna spin if you turn the cars ESP (electronic stability program) which operates engine braking and individual tire praking via abs to tranfer traction to wheels with grip since the quattro system is all mechanical the only thing the audi dont do is tranfer more then 75% to front or rear but if the esp was on it would braked the spinning rear wheels to tranfer power to front and pull of thr rollers if your gonna do a test do it correct
Ummm... I don't know if you guys are stupid but getting off that thing has everything to do with tire threads.. It has nothing to do with the acceleration.. They have bullshit tires on the vehicle if you can see those tires doesn't come on the real Audi A8.. Once again BMW if just fucking with you guys so that you can purchase their Hitler's mustache grill..
@Demineralize lmao, Hitler's mustache grill... actually the BMW xdrive is great but not as good as the quattro they did something, maybe they cut the drive shaft from the front wheels, its an old car and they can do it and fix it later, no on can mess with the quattro power
@Demineralize i dont hate them i just dislike them except for the M5 tho, my dad has one and my cousin too they look good but i just wouldnt replace my S4 with any BMW, cuz i would feel bad, its fast, very very comfortable and in winter its safe and dont lose control around corners
Billiger Populismus!Da wird beim BMW mit der Bremse gearbeitet und beim Audi nicht!Das sind "Verkaufsargumente" auf Kaffefahrtniveau!Nur Dumme fallen auf sowas rein!Hätten die Betrüger beim Audi auch die Bremse benutzt,hätte er sich genau so verhalten wie der BMW!
@28Griff Doesn´t matter if its on or off since ESP does only stabilise the car around the vertical axis and during braking and simualting an LSD between wheels of one axle. It doesn´t and cannot regulate the torque distribution between axles for which the torsen is there in the first place. So don´t talk nonsense when you don´t have a clue.
@redphiveII 2WD Audi would be FWD. The Audi in the video clearly also has back wheel drive, so it's a Quattro.
And yes Quattro loosing a complete axis will loose all torque to that axis. Check en wikipedia org Torsen section How they work: "so long as the higher traction side can handle the higher percentage of applied torque, no relative wheelspin will occur."
Still in the real world, not on a specific device but on snow/ice/... I'll take the Quattro :)
Na prima, hier wird die einzigste Schwachstelle vom Torsendifferntial für ne alberne Werbeaktion ausgennutzt. Bei meinem S3 und 1985er Audi 80 quattro klappt der Gag hier aber leider nicht. Der Zustand dass eine Achse völlig frei drehen kann kommt in 99,9% aller Situationen nicht vor und wenn dann tippt man kurz die Bremse an und gut ist...
Na prima, hier wird die einzigste Schwachstelle vom Torsendifferntial für ne alberne Werbeaktion ausgennutzt. Bei meinem S3 und 1985er Audi 80 quattro klappt der Gag hier aber leider nicht. Der Zustand dass eine Achse völlig frei drehen kann kommt in 99,9% aller Situationen nicht vor und wenn dann tippt man kurz die Bremse an und gut ist...
Quattro is just a tool and it is supposed to help in many situations including such cases. And yes, it sometimes may require driver's actions. I dont know if there is such cases for xDrive or not, I'm not familiar with that system at all. And for me the question here is not which AWD is better. I have a quattro, I know how to use it, while the driver of this A6 does not know. That's why he need couple of guys to push his car.
It'll works, if you add a lot of throttle. Put your foot on the brake pedal with adding gas, than release brake. Brake ballance is something like 60 to 40 , so it'll works. I've tryied this combination. It also could be helpfull if you have limited slipp diff on the back.
As far as I know x-drive is based on Haldex system, quattro on Torsen, so the "roler test" can not be used as an example, because Haldex measures the diffrence of weels' spinning and Torsen is based on difference of torque on different wheels. Rollers in this case eliminate any resistance and Torsen doesn't apply.
@52jato Yeah, thats why Audi won 90%+ of ALL Euro touring series races in 1995 & 1996 vs. BMW and all other brands. Finally Quattro was banned as an unfair advantage. Really must suck, idiot.
@supraman1953 "eah, thats why Audi won 90%+ of ALL Euro touring series races in 1995 & 1996 vs. BMW and all other brands."
95 was won by C-Class Merc and 96 by Opel Calibra V6. Secondly the Audi succes was due to to V8 with around 100hp more than the 4 Cylinder competition. Nothing to do with AWD.
And finally, which i think is the most important point, the Audi V8 quattro DTM drove with an electronic controlled lamella-clutch i.e. xDrive. Now you have something to chew on.
@supraman1953 Don´t buy the nonsense you hear from equally clueless people who know nothing about european/german touring car championchips. The DTM car was abandonned because it used an illegal 180° crankshaft for several years due to a gap in the regulations. After that they developped the A4 (code R7) DTM car, which didn´t win all racing series. Thats just nonsense. You could also claim that Ford was as succesfull because they won man races. Its racing nothing to do with production car
I find these Quattro vs xDrive videos hard to believe. I love both the X3 and Q5 but for god sakes. Audi invented the fully automatic AWD system in the Quattro. And I understand the concept of "Just because someone invented it doesn't mean they are the best." and I won't deny, I see xDrive as one of the best AWD systems out there. But Audi builds a legacy off Quattro while BMW first released xDrive on the BMW X5 in 2000. I think Audi knows what they're doing more than BMW.
@renescx Who said I was buying a Renault? And Renault didn't invent the automobile because Mercedes-Benz did. Well actually the gasoline powered automobile. I'm not doubting xDrives capability. On the contrary. I'm actually thinking of getting the X3 over the Q5 for many reasons. I guess the best option here is to experience it myself and use my own judgement.
this test proves nothing, I got x drive and quattro, the difference on real road conditions is huge, quattro is simply a beast whereas x drive just tries to "hang in there' both bmw and audi are great cars, but pn pure comparison between "xdrive' systerm vs "Quattro", QUATTRO is the absolute winner...
Sind ja als Jahrmarkts Attraktion ganz nett solche Tests und nichts anderes is das was die hier machen! Unter normal Bedingungen sieht man was xDrive taugt! Sehr schön hier "BMW X6 Xdrive fail vs Land Rover Top Gear" und "Audi Allroad vs. 4x4 "elite" zu sehen. Warum sieht man wohl keinen einzigen Test auf der Strasse oder so,somit würden sie alle "Vorteile" von xDrive die sie auf ihrem Rollen Konstrukt zeigen nochmal unterstreichen können!? Die Antwort darauf geben die beiden Vids:)
LOL warum zeigen sie nie im Gelände wie gut ihr Allrad is!? Deswegen! weil er nichts taugt alle male als Zirkusattraktion wie er hier vorgeführt wird mehr nicht! Die Vids zeigen was xDrive taugt! nichts! "BMW X6 Xdrive fail vs Land Rover Top Gear" und das "Audi Allroad vs. 4x4 "elite" sind vergleiche unter normal Bedingungen nich auf irgendwelchen Konstruktionen die sich BMW ausdenkt um ihr Produkt anzupreisen!
bmw prahlt mit dem x-drive systhem als hätten sie es erfunden genau wie mit dem kurvenlicht... bmw hat das x-drive systhem vom mitubishi evo kopiert und die habens von wem?
genau ausi... diese allradsysthem hat audi schon seit dem ur-quattro
und das kurvenlicht hat caddylack schon anfan der 70er jahre (zwar sehr vereinfacht) verbaut.
Rentner-Verarsche!
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Too bad I don't come across rollers on my daily commute; only ice, snow and rain.
krist0kes 1 week ago
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krist0kes 1 week ago
audi doesnt have esp on. must have been 2wd. quattro would have pulled it out with the front tires. I got my rear wheels stuck on ice and they didnt hardly spin. it just drove out.
chuck2271 2 weeks ago
I'm not an audi nor a BMW fan boy... what is happening is normal torsen operation, is you want to exit a situation like that you just have to press the brakes, torsen diffs operates as an open diff when theres no resistance on one of the outputs. That was forced, and does not represent any real life situation... all it proved is that a bmw can exit a dyno with ease.
WickedTRX 3 weeks ago
Really ridiculous. Noone's gonna bite that.
Dryzaum 1 month ago
another fake video from the bmw house... shame again on you! why they don´t want to akcept that audi quattro is the best???
shame on you, i can´t tell this 3 words enough
Naicul1000 1 month ago
That´s no Quattro!!!
It´s only a RWD Audi!
They cheat
TommyBeitz 2 months ago
@TommyBeitz
audi and RWD? it is new?
Zox68 2 months ago 3
Theres no way an AWD car would be thattt shitty in that test. BMW people are just sore losers and had to get a RWD Audi.
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/watch?v=QrQ765S-FiU
The truth.
BMW= fuckn dumbass
TheEryk03 2 months ago 3
1. Quattro
2. Xdrive
3. 4matic
slovakzpo 2 months ago 3
HAHA, they either had the ESP turned off, or they had an Audi with malfunctioning Quattro, OR they found themselves a rear drive Audi! lol... Too funny.
GethinJames 3 months ago
In such test everytime the result is different. I get the impression that they show what the tester paid to be shown.
BatkoRadko555 4 months ago
cheating with ESP
MrKnochen007 4 months ago 13
@MrKnochen007 buy he really won lol....
tranx4868 1 month ago
Older Audis with 2nd or 3rd gen. Quattro were the best, considering that the center and rear differential could be locked, so the car wouldn't move only if all rear and one front wheel were on rollers/air. The newer and simpler Quattros use Anti-spin to wheels with limited grip, so the power is sent to other wheels, either front or rear. Conclusion: This little trick has no more effect at 5th gen. Quattro.
noname69690 4 months ago
@noname69690 Took them long enough
soccerchamp531 3 months ago
This happens because A8 uses torsen differentials, which theoretically take the minimal amount of friction, multiply it *3, and send it to other wheels with better grip. When there's no grip (which happens only at rollers) there's nothing to mutiply (0*3=0) so it sends nothing to the other wheels.
noname69690 4 months ago
nteresting as I would my a6 quattro drove what to say bmw Rats!!! QUATTRO FUCK BMW ALL KNOW!!YOUTUBE DONT HELP YOU
MaciejTFSI 4 months ago
Consider buying xdrive if you spend most of the time on rolls.
0x3FB 4 months ago 5
They both do shitty. I have a Cherokee, S10 and Impreza and I'm sure they would all just walk off those rollers better than either of those cars.
ronmann606 5 months ago
bmw boys cheats again in a BMW parking...nothing new
golfr3260 5 months ago 17
it was a miserable trick done by bmw! thay disabled the EDL!
ccdanro 5 months ago
Audi utilizes two different 4motion or quatro or 4wd or awd whatever u call it solutions. I have read an article somewhere, Mechanical Quatro system would get off the rollers no problem. Its the electronic one that was used in the audi in the vid.
snowonweb 6 months ago
Ab auf die skipiste... mal sehn ob BMW 5 meter weit kommt wo audi auf dem pistenhöchststand wartet! ;)
Akotube84 6 months ago
@Akotube84 Kommt drauf an wleches Modell mit welchen Reifen man nimmt. Weniger welcher Allrad.
Wie z.B. in dem Video mit dem Allradvergleich, da sagt selbst der Kommentator am Ende das der Audi wegen der höchsten Motorleistung gewinnt. Und hier nur zur Info, wenn man einen Allroad mit Untersetzung, Geländereifen, Biturbo V6 mit 250PS und Offroad Suspension gegen einen 184PS X5 mit Strassenreifen ohne Untersetzung und 2t antreten lässt, ist es kein Wunder. Der Nissan hatte sogar Sommereifen!
HeavyweightThinker 6 months ago
Quattro accepts rear wheel spin for towing purpose
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Меня незаконно забанили(с пометкой снятия блокировки никогда) жидо-админы-сионисты на drom ru за то, что я написал под своими сообщениями подпись "НЕ ЕВРЕЙ" (да и то писал в комметариях на главной странице) и за это я получил пожизненный бан. Сижу в незаконном бане с 16 марта... :(
Правила форума не нарушал и нет у меня реальных баллов, чтобы сидеть в бане!
Наверное админы дрома каждое утро и вечером перед сном читают толмут с торой, типа, убей гоя и всё такое :(
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AlexandrFarEast 6 months ago
@trinidee247 you clearly don't know what @S2audicoupeS2 was talking about either. LOL
alext36 7 months ago
@trinidee247 did i say anything else?
but i see you never ever had a 4wd...
so why do i talk to you?
ok for you i explain again: if you dirve a 4wd and your rearwheels are spinning (like on the roles or blank ice) and your frontwheels have traction you have to vlock your rearwheels with your handbrake to get the power to the frontwheels so you can get off the no-traction-ground where your rearwheels are...
S2audicoupeS2 7 months ago
@S2audicoupeS2 "if you have a 4wd and your rearwheels are spinning and you frontwheels have traction you have to lock your rearwheels with your handbrake"
Thats only true for old audis using the oudated torsendifferential. Its not possible on other awd cars especially not clutch based cars who don´t allow wheelspin in the firstplace.
And you cannot use the handbrake on modern cars since its electronic and is automatically disabled when you drive.
HeavyweightThinker 6 months ago
@HeavyweightThinker the xDrive system does all that for you!! you DON'T have to pull handbrake! that is all about this video. xDrive does that while quattro does not. this is how the facts are and there is absolutly no need for any explanation, how it does that.
bele77 6 months ago 2
well you see clearly that the BMW is using the handbrakes.. at his 2nd time on the roles he forst miss to use them you can clearly see the rearwheels spinning like the audi-ones - the he stop giving gas and uses the handbrakes and the car moves - this test is BMW-fake-shit! the A8 would get out of it in the same way.. just block the rearwheels and the power get moved to the front...
S2audicoupeS2 7 months ago
@S2audicoupeS2 "you clearly see the BMW is using handbrakes"
The BMW has a clutch based awd, the wheels cannot spin because the clutch provides a rigid connection between axles. The audi has a differential which allows wheelspin. Thats the actual point, not your handbrake nonsense.
"just block the rear wheels" Wow, what kind of innovative awd is that? Pull the handbrake?!?
And what about the new audis with electronic handbrake where you have to stand still and brake to activate?
HeavyweightThinker 6 months ago 3
esto es un fraude, esta mal utilizado el coche, y es una prueba publicitando bmw. el audi no sale por muchas circunstancias al cual se le estan aplicando. Habria que decir que los rodillos utilizan casi rozamiento neutro y en la naturaleza no existe...
Apuril 7 months ago
///MPower
Iam18yearsolddddd 7 months ago
nice
75213rr 7 months ago
@XtrAMassivEi totally, u need more gas, to save the brakes, it lets it roll for a bit before it sends power to the front, as an audi owner i know this first hand, all cars that have awd are set up defferently, you gotta know how it works to be able to use when u need it most, but in the real world, audi's quattro system is just great, it works when you need it to.
jaszyfizzle 7 months ago
bwahahaha BMW make RWD Audi fuck BMW and their tests.
TheEryk03 7 months ago
fake!
Hehghse12 7 months ago
fuck all u Audi shit box fans. fuck audi the heavy peice of shit, good looking head lights and that it nothing else. BMW pumps audi on any day of the fkn week. u all cant just hack it.
1989kheir 8 months ago
@1989kheir BMW is the last choice now. Suck it up!
Network1One 8 months ago
This is not fake guys, read about Xdrive, its adaptive, so the full power of engine can go on front wheels if nessesery, and quattro has 40-60 or 30-70, so only 30 0r 40 percent of power can not move the veichle, do you understand that now?
blacklord769 8 months ago
@blacklord769
That is not the point. All these test are worthless because they are all counting on disadvantage of torsen. The front wheels don't move because there is no torque on back wheels. If the ESP is on this usually doesn't happen and if it does, the simple trick is to press a brake and it moves. In real life situations, quattro shows what it's capable of. I'm not saying X-drive is bad, but this kind of videos are just stupid.
XtrAMassivE 8 months ago
@XtrAMassivE "If the ESP is on this usually doesn´t happen"
The ESP was on. Its always on during those tests because its irrelevant whether its on or not. Thats because the threshold for the electronic differential is setup for high reving imbalance to prvent the engine from choking and sparing the brakes. Audi writes that in the torsen manuals for its mechanics.
The brake trick doesn´t work in that case either cause the brake applies 70% to the front.
You simply have to give more gas
HeavyweightThinker 7 months ago
@XtrAMassivE "In real life situation, quattro shows what it´s capable of."
Sorry bro but that is absolute nonsense. First of all both the torsen system used in the longitudinal engined audis as well as the x-drive system aren´t real awds. They have no LSD on no axle, they are dependend on ESP (which is deactivated above 100km/h for both cars), and the torsen is not lockable, its an open differential.
These are traction-aid systems for minor conditions and less important than the tires.
HeavyweightThinker 7 months ago
man this video is full of BULLSHIT
drainer2 8 months ago 2
@drainer2 what's bullshit about it then?
Hidezepickle 8 months ago
i dunno. i guess we'll have to give bmw some credit for being brave enough to suggest that xdrive can beat quattro.
lbryan250 8 months ago
To make such a test fair, each car should be driven by its own factory test driver, not some biased marketing reps. Every car should be tested to make sure it's in stock configuration, and only then the results will show the top perfomer.
grbquattro 8 months ago
@grbquattro
don't worry, those test are made for brainless BMW fans. First of all, that was an A8 and not a A6, so it's a heavier vehicle. The funny thing is that BMW has made a lot of similar videos and they try to show Audi and MB is a bad light but their test always come with different results because they are not so good faking it. And slamming on the gas just won't do it, even kids know...
sasho505 8 months ago
@sasho505 I'm just surprised how many people buy into those BS tests.
grbquattro 8 months ago
Audi hahaha
timak74 9 months ago
haha
AmerLeGrand 9 months ago
FAKE
jaster87jaster 9 months ago
LOOOOOOOL they used handbrake at the xDrive
geofx09 9 months ago
@geofx09 how did they use a handbrake if wheels are spinning??
bele77 9 months ago
@bele77 the wheels of Bmw where not spinning...look at it! He used handbrake so the rear wheels dont spin and to be grabed on the roller...and then the front wheels moved it out! Its a very popular trick for proffecionals to do it at their 4x4 on the mountain when their rear wheels are spinning
geofx09 9 months ago
@geofx09 BMW rear wheels can´t spin because it has a center clutch. It can only spin when front wheels spin and that is not the case in the video.
HeavyweightThinker 8 months ago
@geofx09 bmw doesn't need handbrake to move
razorree 6 months ago
@geofx09 you look closely. the wheels are still spinning very slowly. the thing is, that he isn't pulling the handbrake, but the xDrive system is preventing wheels to spin. besides you see the wheels on BMW that they are stuttering a little bit, which is common for all electronic systems to do that.
bele77 6 months ago
BMW hats anscheinend nötig :) quattro forever
derperre 9 months ago
Tja... Das Quattro System mit Torsen Differential ist eben für echte Offroad Situationen gebaut, nicht für irgendwelche doofen Rollentests!
Die einzige Schwäche des Torsens ist das benötigte Gegendrehmoment um vollständig sperren zu können. Dafür ist das Torsen schneller, leichter und zuverlässiger als all der elektronische und elektromechanische X-Drive Plunder!
MrLowAltitude 9 months ago
This is FAKE! Advertising trick ... look at 0:22 ... if the guy kept pushing the gas pedal, the BMW would stay on place too. When the Audi was tested, the guy from behind was yelling "DO NOT PUSH THE GAS PEDAL" but it was not intended to make a fair test ... in such situation you should leave the gas so the system works. Absolutely fake test for advertising purposes ...
RRT3am 9 months ago
@RRT3am no, the guy on the back is saying "du muss ja echt gas geben", that means "u have to give it more gas", and the narrator says "no no no, u dont need to do that...."
Driftuner 9 months ago
@RRT3am "if the guy kept pushing the Gas pedal, the BMW would stay on place too."
No. It has a clutch based awd. The more gas, the faster it would jump forward.
"the guy from behind was yelling "DO NOT PUSH THE GAS PEDAL""
No he was yelling "du musst mal richtig Gas geben", womit er auch recht hat. Wenn du nur wenig Gas gibst greift die EDS nicht ein. Erst ab einer hohen Drehzahldifferenz. Steht so in der Audi Brochüre Nr. 363 Selbstudienprogramm Torsen.
HeavyweightThinker 9 months ago
Wer soll das glauben beim Bmw Gasgeben. Und bei den Audi nur im Leerlauf ist ja normal das der Audi mehr Antriebskraft hat auf der Hinterachse. Der Größste FAKE den es gibt.
AudiA6Avant1990 9 months ago
@AudiA6Avant1990 Nein es ist kein Fake, es wurde beim Audi nur zu wenig Gas gegeben.
Und das natürlich absichtlich. Ist halt ein Schwäche des Torsenallrads...
HeavyweightThinker 9 months ago
audi fanboys here...
wesdsomething 9 months ago
BMW just LOVES switching off the TC in an Audi and imagine that they beat quattro. You don't see Audi doing that, because we all know who the king is. Quattro all the way.
lbryan250 10 months ago 2
@lbryan250 this is just so narrowminded comment. "quattro is the king". just why is that? it's like you don't want to see that anything else is better. quattro was good when they weren't any other good AWD. but it ain't anymore. man, look at all the facts, audi is getting worse every year in just about everything.
bele77 6 months ago
BMW WIN
TheMiki223 10 months ago
So- I was driving my Audi with Quattro down a incredibly icy road the other day. I was having no trouble at all- until I came across a set of these friction resistant rollers in the middle of the road. Gee, I hate it when this happens. My front two wheels lined themselves up perfectly on the friction resistant rollers and I stopped right on top of them- and I got stuck!! Can you believe the luck??!! Oh well. I should have bought an xDrive considering all the rollers all over the roads!
dusky27 10 months ago 21
@dusky27 Bmw works great in real life too... Type in "bmw x3 snow off road" to see xdrive work it's magic.
iceagescrat1 6 months ago
@dusky27 Okay, well if you have one end of your car over ice, and the other end over pavement you're going to have the same problem.. its not like this principle only applies to rollers specifically.
millakilla 4 months ago
@millakilla Here's what I know is true. I can put either the front or the rear set of wheels on ice and the opposite set of wheels on dry pavement- and my Quattro A4 will move forward (or backward) with absolutely no problem at all. Although two wheels are on ice- there is still enough friction generated to enguage Quattro and send the power to the wheels that have the grip.
dusky27 4 months ago
I'm just tired of tests made by BMW to show there system is soo much better on ROLLERS I don't get stuck on rollers I get stuck in SNOW. I know a dude who bought an x-drive 3-series and hated driving it in the snow since it felt jerky he just drove is whive's subaru instead. An I drove an audi A4 Quattro all winter and when my driveway was filled with 1 foot and a half of snow I pulled out.... my neighbor with the BMW....... he needed a shovel.
QCminifred 10 months ago
xDrive is also way heavier than Quattro
Kitteh2006 10 months ago
@Kitteh2006 No its not.
HeavyweightThinker 10 months ago
@HeavyweightThinker then why is every Audi equipped with quattro lighter than every RWD BMW
Kitteh2006 10 months ago
@Kitteh2006 Its exactly the other way round.
The A4 Avant 3.0 TDI Quattro of a friend weighs 1.8 tons compared to my 5 series e60 weighing 1.5 tons. And thats a different class of cars. Just an example. Most BMW are way lighter than most Audis. M3 is lighter than RS5 (about 200kg), M5 lighter than RS6 etc...
HeavyweightThinker 10 months ago
@HeavyweightThinker I don't know where you got that bullshit information from. The A4 Avant is 3814 lbs and the E61 5 series touring with xDrive is 4145 lbs. The new 2012 Audi A6 is also lighter than the 2011/2012 BMW 5 series even though the 5 is RWD and the A6 is AWD.
Kitteh2006 10 months ago
@Kitteh2006 "The A4 avant is 3184lbs"
Which one? I was speaking of the A4 8K 3.0 tdi quattro. I don´t know what engines Audi sales in the US. The engine range is much wider in germany. But basically Audi builds the heaviest cars among Merc and BMW. There are several exeptions to the rule of course.
"The 2012 Audi A6 is alsom lighter than the .."
No its not. Both the 3 Liter Diesel (most sold 6 Cylinder engines in germany for these models) weigh the same exact 1795kg (both awd).
HeavyweightThinker 10 months ago
@Kitteh2006 And the 5 series has longer wheelbase and is overall more luxurious with more options as standard as well as possible.
You cannot compare these cars without mentioning the engines and transmission. For some models the BMW is lighter for some the Audi. But most Audis are heavier. Also all BMW petrol engines are aluminum/magnesium alloys, both inlet and outlet variable camshaft timing and valvelift. Most Audi engines which are also used in VW are ironcast, single camshaft timing
HeavyweightThinker 10 months ago
@HeavyweightThinker No use arguing with a guy who pulls figures out of his ass. Not one thing you've said is actually true or verifiable.
Kitteh2006 10 months ago
@Kitteh2006 A6 3.0TDI Quattro S-tronic sedan 1795kg Audi(dot)de webpage
530xdA sedan 1795kg bmw(dot)de
RS5 S-tronic 1800kg
M3 1680kg 1700kg with dkg
All official figures from the german websites. Even a TTRS with 2.5 Liter Engine, manual gearbox and clothroof weighs 5kg more than an SLK55amg with V8, automatic gear and metalroof.
I could go on and on... i´m not pulling anything out of my ass not in a hundred years
HeavyweightThinker 10 months ago
@HeavyweightThinker okay, and the fact remains that the 2012 A6 is lighter than the BMW 5 series... period
Kitteh2006 10 months ago
@Kitteh2006 And the worst thing is that you can´t get any Audi at all with RWD. And none without a bad front biased wheight-distribution.
HeavyweightThinker 10 months ago
@HeavyweightThinker Also, the lightest A4 is 3100 lbs and the lightest 5 series is 3700 lbs.
Kitteh2006 10 months ago
It's fun to read excuse after excuse after excuse from the fanboys sitting in the Volkswagon section! Hey little kids.....where are all the "fake" vids showing how much better the Quattro system is over BMW's XDrive? Huh? Ha ha ....the BMW owner gets to work on time in the snow, while the Audi driver is 30 minutes late. Boss asks the Audi guy, "I thought your Audi was a Quattro?" Audi driver shyly replies....."ummmmm, yeah....my Audi is a Quattro." Ha ha ha ha .......lol
colderbeer 10 months ago
Yet ANOTHER failure for Volkswagon......it's like when a boy is sent to do the job of a man.
colderbeer 10 months ago
So ein Blödsinn.Aus einem Esel wird nie ein Pferd und aus einem BMW wird nie ein Allradauto
gebirgswurzn 10 months ago
@gebirgswurzn Genauso wenig wie aus einem Audi.
HeavyweightThinker 10 months ago
FAKE! He's pushing the front-brakes till the guys push the car. It is really disgusting what BMW try to make us believe here. Shame on you...
AngelitoAleman 10 months ago
which Audi is rear wheel drive??
plampila 10 months ago
LOOOL this audi not quattro.
reperMC 10 months ago
fake...
TheDriftRidge 10 months ago
It's fake.... Audi Quattro is one of the best tractions systems as well the Subaru symmetrical awd. Is well known that the xDrive of BMW is not the best, specially at the X3, bcause the X3 system is the old Mitsubishi's one, and when i say "old" is really old!
hwarangitf 10 months ago
Why are the reverse gear lights on,on the audi,and the wheels are spinning forward???
gfr1980 10 months ago
turn on the ESP system.....and more gass.Thanks
slovakzpo 11 months ago
F A K E !!
MrStarlight75 11 months ago
100% Fake!
Wenn Torsen 0 Grip an einer Achse hat versagt die Kraftverteilung!
ABER: Mitteldifferential Mitteldifferential, EDS, und ESP würden das ausgleichen und der Audi würde munter von den Rollen fahren.. Ansonsten einfach leicht die Bremse treten..
Es wurde also Offensichtlich manipuliert, meiner Meinung nach sollte BMW dafür vor Gericht und Schadensgeld an Audi zahlen!
Dieses Video (+ das vom Q5) veranlassen mich niemals BMW zu kaufen bzw. einen blick zu würdigen! Einfach peinlich!
Lenkobi 11 months ago
@Lenkobi "Es wurde offensichtlich manipuliert"
Nein, nicht aufgrund eigener Unwissenheit auf Täuschungsversuche anderer schließen.
"Mitteldifferential, EDS und ESP würden das ausgleichen"
Das Mitteldifferential ist ja gerade die Ursache für dieses Verhalten; EDS ist eine Unterfunktion des ESP und wird erst über Schrittgeschwindigkeit bei großer Drehzahldifferenz aktiv.
"sollte BMW dafür vor Gericht"
Hast du noch alle Tassen im Schrank?
"Einfach peinlich!"
Deine Dummheit, ja
HeavyweightThinker 11 months ago
@HeavyweightThinker
Dann erklär mir mal, warum der A8 W12 von meinem Kollegen munter von den Rollen runterfährt..
Lenkobi 10 months ago
@Lenkobi Weil er mehr Gas gegeben hat. Jeder Torsenquattro egal ob A8 oder Q5 fährt von diesen Rollen ohne Probleme runter, man muss nur sehr viel Gas geben. Du siehst in dem Video ja schon wie er anfängt nach vorne zu rucken beim beschleunigen.
Diese Videos sind nur Techdemos um zu zeigen wie das System funktioniert.
HeavyweightThinker 10 months ago
ITS A FAKE!!!!!!!
samsonator 11 months ago
@samsonator lol what? fake audi?
liud128 11 months ago
Die Leute hassen das Video man!!!(164HATER) BMWs sind geil keine Frage aber erlich so ein FAKE reinzutun...
for EVERYBODY
/watch?v=EyKstZ6a5ag
AUdi is the LAst one...look!!!!!!
samsonator 11 months ago
HAHAHAHA.....another fake BMW test....funny...X-drive better than quattro BIG LOL
bboot84 11 months ago
this is a test done by bmw obviously false, what they mean? xDrive is better that the traction of quattro? BMW obviously are jealous for the efficiency of quattro. Audi when he won four races with the audi bmw where was it? to remember that the audi and bmw who raced home first in races with four-wheel-drive cars, and won, is the best home than BMW and Mercedes for the quattro.
tonysmcv 11 months ago
All I know is my friends A4 does NOT do this. Check my videos of him in the snow.
Pendemic 11 months ago
Bottom line............ Audi quattro does not able to transfer enough torque to the front wheels. Same story with X3 and Q5 test.
jungroc 11 months ago
; if an Audi A4 quattro which probably is made in the 90's, is able to move forward in this situation, I bet an A8 can easily do that. This is a fake test payed by BMW in order to discredit quattro system. Look at the backward lamps from the taillights of the A8. they remain ON when the car is trying to go forward.
sonyhybrid 11 months ago
Well of course the audi is gonna spin if you turn the cars ESP (electronic stability program) which operates engine braking and individual tire praking via abs to tranfer traction to wheels with grip since the quattro system is all mechanical the only thing the audi dont do is tranfer more then 75% to front or rear but if the esp was on it would braked the spinning rear wheels to tranfer power to front and pull of thr rollers if your gonna do a test do it correct
saultdude24 11 months ago
Ummm... I don't know if you guys are stupid but getting off that thing has everything to do with tire threads.. It has nothing to do with the acceleration.. They have bullshit tires on the vehicle if you can see those tires doesn't come on the real Audi A8.. Once again BMW if just fucking with you guys so that you can purchase their Hitler's mustache grill..
Demineralize 11 months ago
@Demineralize lmao, Hitler's mustache grill... actually the BMW xdrive is great but not as good as the quattro they did something, maybe they cut the drive shaft from the front wheels, its an old car and they can do it and fix it later, no on can mess with the quattro power
hazemvirus 11 months ago
@hazemvirus I hate BMW's
Demineralize 11 months ago
@Demineralize i dont hate them i just dislike them except for the M5 tho, my dad has one and my cousin too they look good but i just wouldnt replace my S4 with any BMW, cuz i would feel bad, its fast, very very comfortable and in winter its safe and dont lose control around corners
hazemvirus 11 months ago
@Demineralize just because you can't afford it, doesn't mean you have to hate it
liud128 11 months ago
Billiger Populismus!Da wird beim BMW mit der Bremse gearbeitet und beim Audi nicht!Das sind "Verkaufsargumente" auf Kaffefahrtniveau!Nur Dumme fallen auf sowas rein!Hätten die Betrüger beim Audi auch die Bremse benutzt,hätte er sich genau so verhalten wie der BMW!
Basis211nsl 11 months ago
ah ah ah ah ah ah ah great audi
MrRemo0185 11 months ago
lies lies lies, rigged the a8 to fail!
eddiemoy 11 months ago
co to za syf
TheMaszyna 11 months ago
Its burned facts video..
Just look hear )
youtube.com/watch?v=0-FLbgL7KKQ
28Griff 11 months ago
ESP works alsow as antiskidding sistem.
its blocks free turned wheels by brakes, and shift torque to other axle.
28Griff 11 months ago
ahahahaahahhhahahahahahaah aahahahahaahahahah schiebennnnnnnnnnnnnn
dessanel 11 months ago
EPS was disabled
28Griff 1 year ago
@28Griff Doesn´t matter if its on or off since ESP does only stabilise the car around the vertical axis and during braking and simualting an LSD between wheels of one axle. It doesn´t and cannot regulate the torque distribution between axles for which the torsen is there in the first place. So don´t talk nonsense when you don´t have a clue.
HeavyweightThinker 1 year ago
im surpriced to see in all the xDrive vs quattro video, the so called AWD audi is always 2wd...
i dont think audi would be that stuipid to make a car to send all the torque to the tyres with no traction...
redphiveII 1 year ago
@redphiveII "i dont think audi would be that stuipid to make a car to send all the torque to the tyres with no traction..."
Thats how a torsen awd works... Just google it.
HeavyweightThinker 1 year ago
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@redphiveII 2WD Audi would be FWD. The Audi in the video clearly also has back wheel drive, so it's a Quattro.
And yes Quattro loosing a complete axis will loose all torque to that axis. Check en wikipedia org Torsen section How they work: "so long as the higher traction side can handle the higher percentage of applied torque, no relative wheelspin will occur."
Still in the real world, not on a specific device but on snow/ice/... I'll take the Quattro :)
Tfpsly 1 year ago
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Na prima, hier wird die einzigste Schwachstelle vom Torsendifferntial für ne alberne Werbeaktion ausgennutzt. Bei meinem S3 und 1985er Audi 80 quattro klappt der Gag hier aber leider nicht. Der Zustand dass eine Achse völlig frei drehen kann kommt in 99,9% aller Situationen nicht vor und wenn dann tippt man kurz die Bremse an und gut ist...
RO4undgut 1 year ago
Na prima, hier wird die einzigste Schwachstelle vom Torsendifferntial für ne alberne Werbeaktion ausgennutzt. Bei meinem S3 und 1985er Audi 80 quattro klappt der Gag hier aber leider nicht. Der Zustand dass eine Achse völlig frei drehen kann kommt in 99,9% aller Situationen nicht vor und wenn dann tippt man kurz die Bremse an und gut ist...
RO4undgut 1 year ago
lol 142 likes and 142 dislikes
142 audi driver and 142 bmw driver^^
Sirrio91 1 year ago
hahahaha this is the marketing power commercial.....
BMW rule....
Giapan84 1 year ago
Ha Ha Ha Quatro 40:60 therefore it can not go forward because it is too hard
bimes1987 1 year ago
don't understand this. Audi don't know four wheel drive?? doh!! had me fooled for years.
206range 1 year ago
the driver of the Audi does not worth that car. He dont know to drive a quattro.
karginartur 1 year ago
@karginartur
What AWD is it, if u need to know how to drive it? Isn't it more simple just to drive normally?
xDrive is more intelligent, faster to react but in some cases is Quattro better because of weight distribution.
iMarkk92 1 year ago
@iMarkk92
Quattro is just a tool and it is supposed to help in many situations including such cases. And yes, it sometimes may require driver's actions. I dont know if there is such cases for xDrive or not, I'm not familiar with that system at all. And for me the question here is not which AWD is better. I have a quattro, I know how to use it, while the driver of this A6 does not know. That's why he need couple of guys to push his car.
karginartur 1 year ago
@karginartur "I have a quattro"
Which Quattro? Quattro is just a marketing name under which 3 different awd systems are sold.
An A3/TT/Golf 4 motion/Touran etc.. as well as the R8 would not have any problems and wouldn´t require any drivers action in this situation at all.
HeavyweightThinker 1 year ago
It'll works, if you add a lot of throttle. Put your foot on the brake pedal with adding gas, than release brake. Brake ballance is something like 60 to 40 , so it'll works. I've tryied this combination. It also could be helpfull if you have limited slipp diff on the back.
kopaczp 1 year ago
In audi he should pull the ebrake, or press the foot brake with adding gas, and the car would go.
kopaczp 1 year ago
@kopaczp Not the footbrake though, it brakes front more than rear so it would have no effect.
HeavyweightThinker 1 year ago
hahaha, I love this video, truth about audi
AlexanderrrL 1 year ago
As far as I know x-drive is based on Haldex system, quattro on Torsen, so the "roler test" can not be used as an example, because Haldex measures the diffrence of weels' spinning and Torsen is based on difference of torque on different wheels. Rollers in this case eliminate any resistance and Torsen doesn't apply.
MrInorder 1 year ago
Audi sucks!
Rostman156 1 year ago
@Rostman156 your mom sucks
kaasiic12 1 year ago
@kaasiic12
You are so stupid:):):)
Rostman156 1 year ago
Fake test!
MultiCbv 1 year ago
this test is fake ! BMW used the handbrake and it was obvious
Moustafaemad 1 year ago
quattro system is the shith system ı have ever seen
52jato 1 year ago
@52jato Yeah, thats why Audi won 90%+ of ALL Euro touring series races in 1995 & 1996 vs. BMW and all other brands. Finally Quattro was banned as an unfair advantage. Really must suck, idiot.
supraman1953 1 year ago
@supraman1953 "eah, thats why Audi won 90%+ of ALL Euro touring series races in 1995 & 1996 vs. BMW and all other brands."
95 was won by C-Class Merc and 96 by Opel Calibra V6. Secondly the Audi succes was due to to V8 with around 100hp more than the 4 Cylinder competition. Nothing to do with AWD.
And finally, which i think is the most important point, the Audi V8 quattro DTM drove with an electronic controlled lamella-clutch i.e. xDrive. Now you have something to chew on.
HeavyweightThinker 1 year ago
@supraman1953 Don´t buy the nonsense you hear from equally clueless people who know nothing about european/german touring car championchips. The DTM car was abandonned because it used an illegal 180° crankshaft for several years due to a gap in the regulations. After that they developped the A4 (code R7) DTM car, which didn´t win all racing series. Thats just nonsense. You could also claim that Ford was as succesfull because they won man races. Its racing nothing to do with production car
HeavyweightThinker 1 year ago
bmw used handbrake, thats it
hardcorewithhardtech 1 year ago
hier noch ein anderer vergleich quattro vs. x-drive.
youtube: EyKstZ6a5ag
da schaut der audi aber wesentlich besser aus...
und was gibt es in der natur wohl mehr? rollenpruefstaende auf freier strecke oder schneepisten?
t00i 1 year ago
another fake test... like the one between q5 and x3.
mcpeter90 1 year ago
I find these Quattro vs xDrive videos hard to believe. I love both the X3 and Q5 but for god sakes. Audi invented the fully automatic AWD system in the Quattro. And I understand the concept of "Just because someone invented it doesn't mean they are the best." and I won't deny, I see xDrive as one of the best AWD systems out there. But Audi builds a legacy off Quattro while BMW first released xDrive on the BMW X5 in 2000. I think Audi knows what they're doing more than BMW.
85ZingoGTR 1 year ago
@85ZingoGTR why are you not buyin Renault? they are the inventors of the automobile.
You see, just having history doesnt meen you're better.
Opel is also older than Porsche, and guess who's better!? :))
Quattro relied to much on what they have done, and went down, but they will find the way back ....until than xdrive is just the better option!
renescx 1 year ago
@renescx Who said I was buying a Renault? And Renault didn't invent the automobile because Mercedes-Benz did. Well actually the gasoline powered automobile. I'm not doubting xDrives capability. On the contrary. I'm actually thinking of getting the X3 over the Q5 for many reasons. I guess the best option here is to experience it myself and use my own judgement.
85ZingoGTR 1 year ago
@TheTupchu
i mean that the audi is primaly a fwd und if the whells are spinning, the rear wheels help.
benzinbruder96 1 year ago
this test proves nothing, I got x drive and quattro, the difference on real road conditions is huge, quattro is simply a beast whereas x drive just tries to "hang in there' both bmw and audi are great cars, but pn pure comparison between "xdrive' systerm vs "Quattro", QUATTRO is the absolute winner...
trijjj 1 year ago
@trijjj what a coincidence that u have both -.-
zolob314 1 year ago
@zolob314 its not a coincidence, it is a fact.
trijjj 1 year ago
Sind ja als Jahrmarkts Attraktion ganz nett solche Tests und nichts anderes is das was die hier machen! Unter normal Bedingungen sieht man was xDrive taugt! Sehr schön hier "BMW X6 Xdrive fail vs Land Rover Top Gear" und "Audi Allroad vs. 4x4 "elite" zu sehen. Warum sieht man wohl keinen einzigen Test auf der Strasse oder so,somit würden sie alle "Vorteile" von xDrive die sie auf ihrem Rollen Konstrukt zeigen nochmal unterstreichen können!? Die Antwort darauf geben die beiden Vids:)
cultg 1 year ago
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LOL warum zeigen sie nie im Gelände wie gut ihr Allrad is!? Deswegen! weil er nichts taugt alle male als Zirkusattraktion wie er hier vorgeführt wird mehr nicht! Die Vids zeigen was xDrive taugt! nichts! "BMW X6 Xdrive fail vs Land Rover Top Gear" und das "Audi Allroad vs. 4x4 "elite" sind vergleiche unter normal Bedingungen nich auf irgendwelchen Konstruktionen die sich BMW ausdenkt um ihr Produkt anzupreisen!
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Moe180186 1 year ago
This obviously proves that Audi's quattro would lose in snow, ice, and rain as well
HoBoMoBob 1 year ago
wie arm ist das denn?
bmw prahlt mit dem x-drive systhem als hätten sie es erfunden genau wie mit dem kurvenlicht... bmw hat das x-drive systhem vom mitubishi evo kopiert und die habens von wem?
genau ausi... diese allradsysthem hat audi schon seit dem ur-quattro
und das kurvenlicht hat caddylack schon anfan der 70er jahre (zwar sehr vereinfacht) verbaut.
kingofh8 1 year ago
hahahaha proud peoples, you compare a normal audi (not quattro ) whith a 4WD BMW !!
MMTIR 1 year ago
@MMTIR Yeah, except that all non quattro Audis are FWD.
lejupp 1 year ago
@MMTIR for ur general information:1. Audi is building cars with rear wheel drive 2. all the Audi A8 TDI from 2003 have 4WD ;)
renescx 1 year ago