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  • "We're uh, ready to sell you some."

    $2400

    Yeah, good luck with that.

  • 2400??? LOL i can get 4 saiga 12's for that price!

  • Neat gun but unless you're running various ammo types and want to be able to easily switch between then I don't think it'll sell very well.

    I agree that I'd rather have a detachable mag gun (I think the Saiga's just about it as far as I know) and have lots of money left over for training and practice ammo before I matched it's price point.

  • The problem I have is you have to rotate the magazine manually every 4 rounds. I would rather have stick mag system like the Saiga.

  • I threw up in my mouth a little when I saw the price

  • I want to see this gun in action!

  • Great idea. 

  • interesting idea, but the 4 shots and then turning that tube seems a bit akward. I think I will leave this one in the catagory of ongoing research experimental design.

  • wow , sticker shock , i'll keep my 870 and use the 2,400 toward a .338 lapua rifle instead

  • I like the innovation, but not so sure how practical it would be. Changing the tube every 4 rounds will get old and that price is a joke. I will take a KSG over this, but it's great to see some different ideas coming into the market finally.

  • Two thousand four hundred dollars?

    For that price it better be able to cycle 500000 different rounds without cleaning and have gold inlay engraving.

  • way way way over priced

  • It's the widow maker shotgun from Deus Ex!

  • That is kind of cool. Wonder how reliable it is?

  • Very cool, just way to much. Inventive idea though. 

  • This seems like a design that would be good for a bullpup shotgun.

  • pointless, now if it were calico stle mag where that mage was 1 mag that stored 16 it would be better but $2000+? it will fail

  • Yeah ill just get 4 saiga 12s instead LOL

  • LOOKS LKIE THE LSNCER FROM GEARS OF WAR LOL

  • legal in California? god i feel so dirty asking that stupid california

  • awesome gum

  • cool concept but the price is pretty steep for what it is

  • Hmm, why would I ever want this over my saiga 12?  Oh wait, I wouldn't.

  • I don't fault them for making something new, but this shotgun is only a novelty. There are so many better choices for a fraction of the price tag for this thing.

  • $2400!!! for a shotgun! Thats highway robbery, espically against the Kel-Tec shotgun, or a SAIGA 12, this is just laughable

  • Only $2300? I'm getting two! One in Fuscia and the other Cornflower Blue!

  • @556DOS45 lol

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  • There is no way this will be able to compete with the Saiga or the KSG in functionality or at that price point. Sorry but this one is a fail.

  • 2300 dollars for a shot gun? really? c-mon. laughable. 

  • @altops yep. $2400 for a shotgun is outrageous! When you can buy a saiga 12 for 200-300 then for about another 300 convert it including the purchase of a couple 20 round drum mags that require no rotation........yeah right. Looks cool, but not for me.

  • @b0xcrash

    Show me where to get a saiga for $200-$300 please...

  • @pickchicken I got mine for $300 maybe two or 3 years ago from a local gun shop. Had no idea they went up that much!?!? still...way cheaper than this :)

  • @b0xcrash I think its an offensive insult to price any shotgun as much, it better be made of gold, titanium, and have betsy rosses signature on it.

  • @b0xcrash Only a couple of the centerfire Saigas go for a little over 300. A Saiga 12 go for 600-700 new. Check gunbroker....

  • oooohh sorry Kel-Tec.

  • Awesome...Are you going to get one...

    I was thinking of the Moss 590A1...but now I might have to change those plans...LOL

    Target On...E1

  • @ETHRON1 They seemed interested in sending me one for T&E. I wasn't interested in it until I got to see one in person. Once I discovered that it automatically chambers a round when you rotate the magazine I became interested in it. It certainly seems to be very well made but only range time would tell how well it works for me.

  • @Sturmgewehre

    I'll stay tuned and look forward to it...

    E1

  • @ETHRON1 Get the 590A1 I owned one for a year it was phenomenal. Smooth handles all rounds well robust 12 shells+1 on the gun-I taught many first timers on it---not to mention a bayonet lug-- I paid 300 for mine, make sure to buy it **used** (it is virtually indestructible) and shop around allot you will find a deal.

    also 590A1 was the ONLY shotgun to withstand military testing.

    Just some food for thought

  • @GaetanoMurphy

    Thanks...I am still thinking on it....hell...maybe get both....Oh won't the wife be happy with me...LOL....Not.

    E1

  • @GaetanoMurphy

    Gee I thought the Marines were part of the military and they use the Benelli M4 as a shotgun.

    Pat

  • Since it wasn't mentioned, this is a semi-auto............

  • Looks cumbersome. I'll stick to my S12.

  • No thank you. This is nothing short of a novelty shotgun.

  • True..

  • Maybe if i started making $75 an hour.....

  • drop the price to close to 800 and 30-60$ mags, I think they will have a winner!

  • Nice, but y not just use a drum magazine..

  • @WhatHavU I think for them, it was too bulky

  • reminds me of a neostead. but looks more useful for police than civilian.

  • For $2400 this thing better wipe my ass when I'm done on the john.

  • Due to the war coming to a end in the near future, do you think ammo quantity will be more plentiful with lower prices in the civilian market.

  • 2400 bucks for a shotgun ???..... I'll just keep my 870 thank you !!!

  • Move over KSG?

  • good if you only need 16 shots

  • That is way too expensive. I'd stick to a decked out Saiga 12 for a fraction of the cost and the drum would hold 4 more rounds. With the money I save I would be able to buy a couple thousand rounds easily.

  • Personally IMHO the Kel-Tec KSG is all the shotgun I would need. Hell, my old Mossberg 590A1 is all I really need, heh. And like everyone else says $2400 is totally insane. That's like Kimber wanting $1400 for their new .380, lol.

  • I think it's a unique design, so I won't hate on it. If I had disposable income, sure I'd pick one up to try it out. But for anything needing sustained fire from a shotgun, my Saiga 12 will do just fine.

  • And me with a $500 Saiga-12 with Drum magazine. I could sell my Saiga-12 and for $2300 buy one of these that requires me to rotate the feed tube...... (can you hear the sarcasm).

  • other than being able to kill a shit ton of zombies in rapid succession should the apocalypse happen what is the practical use of this weapon? i have a benelli m2 with a 5+1 tactical configuration i use as my duty shotgun. I can honestly say i have never been in a situation where i would need to have 16 shells. seems overdone to me and entirely impractical for civilian and law enforcement use

  • But it doesn't rotate itself :-(

  • Fuck that. $2400 and it's ugly.

  • I have to agree with SemperFirearms and Everett07630. The price is just not right. It is a neat gun and concept, however that price is way out there even for the innovation. I mean, you can get the new Keltec KSG for about $800 (Their suggested retail price) and the Remington 870 (Tried and true reliable) for under $300. I don't see a large market for that kind of price.

  • If I had the money, sure, maybe... but 2,400??? I'll take a Gen 2 ACR over that but I like the gun... still, 2,400????

  • thats ugly as hell haha

  • these guns are available now and only for the low price of one of your kidney's

  • this gun makes no sense.

  • to bad there is no 4th Amendment in that State.

  • That guy sounded so desperate to sell his product!

  • turning the cylinder kills it for me personally. The xrail appears to be way better, specifically when the xrail is full integrated into the shotgun and replaces the original magazine tube instead of just extending it.

    But thanks for posting this video! always fun to see different guns; good or bad. If it goes "bang" i like it

  • Saiga 12 with 20 round drum = $800

  • hmm...i rember seeing this and was wonder when they going to release it wow

    you don't need to turn the xrail manually...if the SRM was that then it might be cool.

    A for effort though

  • It seems like a lot of people jumped on kel tecs idea of having more than one loading tube.

  • holy shit price tag.....no tac shotgun is worth that.

  • I'd totally buy it only if it was chambered "in the 40 Watt Range" LOL

    Phased Plasma Shotgun in the 40 Watt Range

  • Keltec's is cooler at half the price. They need to get this gun under $1K, then they may have something competitive with Keltec.

  • Yeah no thanks ill stick to my Mossberg

  • cough cough cough...how much?

  • Ill stick with my military-grade AA-12 with frag-12 rounds thankyouverymuch.

  • @section8solo Exactly.

  • KSG

  • wow!expensive!

  • cool but I'll pass on $2,400. I like the mag idea but think it was poorly executed. I can think of a few options right now I would substitute for this and buy myself a few more toys with the extra money

  • IDK

  • I would like you to give a critical review of the Beneli M4

  • The Remington 870 for the win ~ 7 shots, 18" barrel, and 100% reliable. Price less than $300.00

  • @Everett07630

    Or combat shotgun training, a few hundred bucks to learn how to properly use in action. Agree totally on the 870.

  • I have an idea.

    Review all the Box fed shotguns and Tactical shotty's, the Saiga, USAS, This model here ect.

    You're the man to do it and we all need it bad.

  • Kel Tec KSG - better & cheaper

  • @charliraq I was just looking at that, double tube feed.

    Is it a selector for which mag?

  • so the action works the same way as an HK G-3, 33, or MP-5?

  • meh

  • Looks kinda cool but I'll stick with Saiga 12...

  • Thats alot of money, Nice, But alot of money, Maybe the Bulpup High capacity shotguns will start to go down in price when more of them become available!! Im hoping anyway. Thanks for sharing!

  • Sweet

    

  • whoever came up with that idea? dear god...maybe a magazine fed bullpup wouldve worked better. 4 rotating tubes....sigh...really?

  • They've been trying to get that shotgun out for 4 or 5 yrs now. Seems like they would have put a more reasonable price on it.

  • Does not interest me... :-(

  • $2400,,, no thanks.

    

  • @SemperFirearms A saiga is only $500 I think we can all afford that and you can buy 20 round drums for those.

  • neat but, good god at that price

  • Are you going to the NRA convention in STL this April?

  • @1crimm Yes, that's the plan. I'll keep everyone posted on the Military Arms Channel facebook page.

  • @Sturmgewehre Cool, thanks.

  • "Pushing up with that, I guess, lever..."

  • first

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