Neat gun but unless you're running various ammo types and want to be able to easily switch between then I don't think it'll sell very well.
I agree that I'd rather have a detachable mag gun (I think the Saiga's just about it as far as I know) and have lots of money left over for training and practice ammo before I matched it's price point.
interesting idea, but the 4 shots and then turning that tube seems a bit akward. I think I will leave this one in the catagory of ongoing research experimental design.
I like the innovation, but not so sure how practical it would be. Changing the tube every 4 rounds will get old and that price is a joke. I will take a KSG over this, but it's great to see some different ideas coming into the market finally.
I don't fault them for making something new, but this shotgun is only a novelty. There are so many better choices for a fraction of the price tag for this thing.
@altops yep. $2400 for a shotgun is outrageous! When you can buy a saiga 12 for 200-300 then for about another 300 convert it including the purchase of a couple 20 round drum mags that require no rotation........yeah right. Looks cool, but not for me.
@pickchicken I got mine for $300 maybe two or 3 years ago from a local gun shop. Had no idea they went up that much!?!? still...way cheaper than this :)
@ETHRON1 They seemed interested in sending me one for T&E. I wasn't interested in it until I got to see one in person. Once I discovered that it automatically chambers a round when you rotate the magazine I became interested in it. It certainly seems to be very well made but only range time would tell how well it works for me.
@ETHRON1 Get the 590A1 I owned one for a year it was phenomenal. Smooth handles all rounds well robust 12 shells+1 on the gun-I taught many first timers on it---not to mention a bayonet lug-- I paid 300 for mine, make sure to buy it **used** (it is virtually indestructible) and shop around allot you will find a deal.
also 590A1 was the ONLY shotgun to withstand military testing.
That is way too expensive. I'd stick to a decked out Saiga 12 for a fraction of the cost and the drum would hold 4 more rounds. With the money I save I would be able to buy a couple thousand rounds easily.
Personally IMHO the Kel-Tec KSG is all the shotgun I would need. Hell, my old Mossberg 590A1 is all I really need, heh. And like everyone else says $2400 is totally insane. That's like Kimber wanting $1400 for their new .380, lol.
I think it's a unique design, so I won't hate on it. If I had disposable income, sure I'd pick one up to try it out. But for anything needing sustained fire from a shotgun, my Saiga 12 will do just fine.
And me with a $500 Saiga-12 with Drum magazine. I could sell my Saiga-12 and for $2300 buy one of these that requires me to rotate the feed tube...... (can you hear the sarcasm).
other than being able to kill a shit ton of zombies in rapid succession should the apocalypse happen what is the practical use of this weapon? i have a benelli m2 with a 5+1 tactical configuration i use as my duty shotgun. I can honestly say i have never been in a situation where i would need to have 16 shells. seems overdone to me and entirely impractical for civilian and law enforcement use
I have to agree with SemperFirearms and Everett07630. The price is just not right. It is a neat gun and concept, however that price is way out there even for the innovation. I mean, you can get the new Keltec KSG for about $800 (Their suggested retail price) and the Remington 870 (Tried and true reliable) for under $300. I don't see a large market for that kind of price.
turning the cylinder kills it for me personally. The xrail appears to be way better, specifically when the xrail is full integrated into the shotgun and replaces the original magazine tube instead of just extending it.
But thanks for posting this video! always fun to see different guns; good or bad. If it goes "bang" i like it
cool but I'll pass on $2,400. I like the mag idea but think it was poorly executed. I can think of a few options right now I would substitute for this and buy myself a few more toys with the extra money
Thats alot of money, Nice, But alot of money, Maybe the Bulpup High capacity shotguns will start to go down in price when more of them become available!! Im hoping anyway. Thanks for sharing!
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I like the Akdal mka 1919 better. They just need to put an adjustable stock, left hand charge, and get rid of the rhinestones!
njvw177 1 week ago
"We're uh, ready to sell you some."
$2400
Yeah, good luck with that.
socalitex 1 month ago
2400??? LOL i can get 4 saiga 12's for that price!
BigSean1992 1 month ago
Neat gun but unless you're running various ammo types and want to be able to easily switch between then I don't think it'll sell very well.
I agree that I'd rather have a detachable mag gun (I think the Saiga's just about it as far as I know) and have lots of money left over for training and practice ammo before I matched it's price point.
Steelheart357 1 month ago
The problem I have is you have to rotate the magazine manually every 4 rounds. I would rather have stick mag system like the Saiga.
Alaskapopo 1 month ago
I threw up in my mouth a little when I saw the price
TheTacticalShooter 1 month ago
I want to see this gun in action!
FellixGuns 1 month ago in playlist Другие видео от пользователя Sturmgewehre
Great idea.
millster101 1 month ago
interesting idea, but the 4 shots and then turning that tube seems a bit akward. I think I will leave this one in the catagory of ongoing research experimental design.
Jesses001 1 month ago
wow , sticker shock , i'll keep my 870 and use the 2,400 toward a .338 lapua rifle instead
soldierZ28 1 month ago
I like the innovation, but not so sure how practical it would be. Changing the tube every 4 rounds will get old and that price is a joke. I will take a KSG over this, but it's great to see some different ideas coming into the market finally.
AshogNorth 1 month ago
Two thousand four hundred dollars?
For that price it better be able to cycle 500000 different rounds without cleaning and have gold inlay engraving.
VicariousReality7 1 month ago
way way way over priced
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
It's the widow maker shotgun from Deus Ex!
Mrarmageddon8 1 month ago
That is kind of cool. Wonder how reliable it is?
idahoshootist 1 month ago
Very cool, just way to much. Inventive idea though.
timmyjunior1 1 month ago
This seems like a design that would be good for a bullpup shotgun.
MaccyMan1 1 month ago
pointless, now if it were calico stle mag where that mage was 1 mag that stored 16 it would be better but $2000+? it will fail
TheAlexagius 1 month ago
Yeah ill just get 4 saiga 12s instead LOL
coolbuddykermit 1 month ago
LOOKS LKIE THE LSNCER FROM GEARS OF WAR LOL
crazylucifer0 1 month ago
legal in California? god i feel so dirty asking that stupid california
shitpickle1128 1 month ago
awesome gum
XFILESPT 1 month ago
cool concept but the price is pretty steep for what it is
boltjet135 1 month ago
Hmm, why would I ever want this over my saiga 12? Oh wait, I wouldn't.
Moonshield23 1 month ago
I don't fault them for making something new, but this shotgun is only a novelty. There are so many better choices for a fraction of the price tag for this thing.
SirJarred 1 month ago
$2400!!! for a shotgun! Thats highway robbery, espically against the Kel-Tec shotgun, or a SAIGA 12, this is just laughable
DaytonaRoadster 1 month ago
Only $2300? I'm getting two! One in Fuscia and the other Cornflower Blue!
556DOS45 1 month ago 2
@556DOS45 lol
altops 1 month ago
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RadekCT 1 month ago
There is no way this will be able to compete with the Saiga or the KSG in functionality or at that price point. Sorry but this one is a fail.
proximal13 1 month ago 21
2300 dollars for a shot gun? really? c-mon. laughable.
altops 1 month ago
@altops yep. $2400 for a shotgun is outrageous! When you can buy a saiga 12 for 200-300 then for about another 300 convert it including the purchase of a couple 20 round drum mags that require no rotation........yeah right. Looks cool, but not for me.
b0xcrash 1 month ago
@b0xcrash
Show me where to get a saiga for $200-$300 please...
pickchicken 1 month ago
@pickchicken I got mine for $300 maybe two or 3 years ago from a local gun shop. Had no idea they went up that much!?!? still...way cheaper than this :)
b0xcrash 1 month ago
@b0xcrash I think its an offensive insult to price any shotgun as much, it better be made of gold, titanium, and have betsy rosses signature on it.
altops 1 month ago
@b0xcrash Only a couple of the centerfire Saigas go for a little over 300. A Saiga 12 go for 600-700 new. Check gunbroker....
SirJarred 1 month ago
oooohh sorry Kel-Tec.
altops 1 month ago
Awesome...Are you going to get one...
I was thinking of the Moss 590A1...but now I might have to change those plans...LOL
Target On...E1
ETHRON1 1 month ago
@ETHRON1 They seemed interested in sending me one for T&E. I wasn't interested in it until I got to see one in person. Once I discovered that it automatically chambers a round when you rotate the magazine I became interested in it. It certainly seems to be very well made but only range time would tell how well it works for me.
Sturmgewehre 1 month ago
@Sturmgewehre
I'll stay tuned and look forward to it...
E1
ETHRON1 1 month ago
@ETHRON1 Get the 590A1 I owned one for a year it was phenomenal. Smooth handles all rounds well robust 12 shells+1 on the gun-I taught many first timers on it---not to mention a bayonet lug-- I paid 300 for mine, make sure to buy it **used** (it is virtually indestructible) and shop around allot you will find a deal.
also 590A1 was the ONLY shotgun to withstand military testing.
Just some food for thought
GaetanoMurphy 1 month ago
@GaetanoMurphy
Thanks...I am still thinking on it....hell...maybe get both....Oh won't the wife be happy with me...LOL....Not.
E1
ETHRON1 1 month ago
@GaetanoMurphy
Gee I thought the Marines were part of the military and they use the Benelli M4 as a shotgun.
Pat
Alaskapopo 1 day ago
Since it wasn't mentioned, this is a semi-auto............
Patriot36 1 month ago 2
Looks cumbersome. I'll stick to my S12.
ElTerrible666 1 month ago
No thank you. This is nothing short of a novelty shotgun.
awakennomore 1 month ago
True..
WhatHavU 1 month ago
Maybe if i started making $75 an hour.....
warnerd14 1 month ago
drop the price to close to 800 and 30-60$ mags, I think they will have a winner!
boyjune26 1 month ago
Nice, but y not just use a drum magazine..
WhatHavU 1 month ago
@WhatHavU I think for them, it was too bulky
theTicklemehellmo 1 month ago
reminds me of a neostead. but looks more useful for police than civilian.
nejinaji 1 month ago
For $2400 this thing better wipe my ass when I'm done on the john.
ProGunTexan 1 month ago
Due to the war coming to a end in the near future, do you think ammo quantity will be more plentiful with lower prices in the civilian market.
skipwadoo 1 month ago
2400 bucks for a shotgun ???..... I'll just keep my 870 thank you !!!
unknwnshooter 1 month ago
Move over KSG?
tacticaltrigger 1 month ago
good if you only need 16 shots
shummyshum 1 month ago
That is way too expensive. I'd stick to a decked out Saiga 12 for a fraction of the cost and the drum would hold 4 more rounds. With the money I save I would be able to buy a couple thousand rounds easily.
DoubleTapLasVegas 1 month ago
Personally IMHO the Kel-Tec KSG is all the shotgun I would need. Hell, my old Mossberg 590A1 is all I really need, heh. And like everyone else says $2400 is totally insane. That's like Kimber wanting $1400 for their new .380, lol.
MThrow 1 month ago
I think it's a unique design, so I won't hate on it. If I had disposable income, sure I'd pick one up to try it out. But for anything needing sustained fire from a shotgun, my Saiga 12 will do just fine.
CFOofEVIL 1 month ago
And me with a $500 Saiga-12 with Drum magazine. I could sell my Saiga-12 and for $2300 buy one of these that requires me to rotate the feed tube...... (can you hear the sarcasm).
frankgon4 1 month ago
other than being able to kill a shit ton of zombies in rapid succession should the apocalypse happen what is the practical use of this weapon? i have a benelli m2 with a 5+1 tactical configuration i use as my duty shotgun. I can honestly say i have never been in a situation where i would need to have 16 shells. seems overdone to me and entirely impractical for civilian and law enforcement use
crazy0ace1 1 month ago
But it doesn't rotate itself :-(
williamED15 1 month ago
Fuck that. $2400 and it's ugly.
SniperRick666 1 month ago
I have to agree with SemperFirearms and Everett07630. The price is just not right. It is a neat gun and concept, however that price is way out there even for the innovation. I mean, you can get the new Keltec KSG for about $800 (Their suggested retail price) and the Remington 870 (Tried and true reliable) for under $300. I don't see a large market for that kind of price.
MrTotez 1 month ago
If I had the money, sure, maybe... but 2,400??? I'll take a Gen 2 ACR over that but I like the gun... still, 2,400????
lightningwu 1 month ago
thats ugly as hell haha
darthcollosus 1 month ago
these guns are available now and only for the low price of one of your kidney's
808Arsenal 1 month ago 10
this gun makes no sense.
HARVSTO 1 month ago
to bad there is no 4th Amendment in that State.
JWnFL 1 month ago
That guy sounded so desperate to sell his product!
kagapeme 1 month ago
turning the cylinder kills it for me personally. The xrail appears to be way better, specifically when the xrail is full integrated into the shotgun and replaces the original magazine tube instead of just extending it.
But thanks for posting this video! always fun to see different guns; good or bad. If it goes "bang" i like it
boxdoutfoot 1 month ago
Saiga 12 with 20 round drum = $800
the308capital 1 month ago
hmm...i rember seeing this and was wonder when they going to release it wow
you don't need to turn the xrail manually...if the SRM was that then it might be cool.
A for effort though
FirstPistolSammy 1 month ago
It seems like a lot of people jumped on kel tecs idea of having more than one loading tube.
THEKOOL4iDMAN697 1 month ago
holy shit price tag.....no tac shotgun is worth that.
JonnyC308 1 month ago
I'd totally buy it only if it was chambered "in the 40 Watt Range" LOL
Phased Plasma Shotgun in the 40 Watt Range
TACTICALCHICKENSTRIP 1 month ago
Keltec's is cooler at half the price. They need to get this gun under $1K, then they may have something competitive with Keltec.
prescottbill 1 month ago
Yeah no thanks ill stick to my Mossberg
CArtOfTheMAn 1 month ago
cough cough cough...how much?
Czechsix 1 month ago
Ill stick with my military-grade AA-12 with frag-12 rounds thankyouverymuch.
section8solo 1 month ago
@section8solo Exactly.
sbrown7210 1 month ago
KSG
wayne1one 1 month ago
wow!expensive!
bobsolla 1 month ago
cool but I'll pass on $2,400. I like the mag idea but think it was poorly executed. I can think of a few options right now I would substitute for this and buy myself a few more toys with the extra money
DickWheels 1 month ago
IDK
DickWheels 1 month ago
I would like you to give a critical review of the Beneli M4
762gunr 1 month ago
The Remington 870 for the win ~ 7 shots, 18" barrel, and 100% reliable. Price less than $300.00
Everett07630 1 month ago 48
@Everett07630
Or combat shotgun training, a few hundred bucks to learn how to properly use in action. Agree totally on the 870.
joesphx19 1 month ago
I have an idea.
Review all the Box fed shotguns and Tactical shotty's, the Saiga, USAS, This model here ect.
You're the man to do it and we all need it bad.
americanbandwidth 1 month ago
Kel Tec KSG - better & cheaper
charliraq 1 month ago
@charliraq I was just looking at that, double tube feed.
Is it a selector for which mag?
americanbandwidth 1 month ago
so the action works the same way as an HK G-3, 33, or MP-5?
Nb1PatrioticAmerican 1 month ago
meh
burgerboy13 1 month ago
Looks kinda cool but I'll stick with Saiga 12...
lighthammer2531 1 month ago
Thats alot of money, Nice, But alot of money, Maybe the Bulpup High capacity shotguns will start to go down in price when more of them become available!! Im hoping anyway. Thanks for sharing!
1GUNTOTINGTEXAN 1 month ago
Sweet
OilTheGun 1 month ago
whoever came up with that idea? dear god...maybe a magazine fed bullpup wouldve worked better. 4 rotating tubes....sigh...really?
labartic 1 month ago
They've been trying to get that shotgun out for 4 or 5 yrs now. Seems like they would have put a more reasonable price on it.
GunznGear 1 month ago
Does not interest me... :-(
geardog32 1 month ago
$2400,,, no thanks.
SemperFirearms 1 month ago 60
@SemperFirearms A saiga is only $500 I think we can all afford that and you can buy 20 round drums for those.
TheeBedazzler 1 month ago
neat but, good god at that price
ManlyManFilms 1 month ago
Are you going to the NRA convention in STL this April?
1crimm 1 month ago
@1crimm Yes, that's the plan. I'll keep everyone posted on the Military Arms Channel facebook page.
Sturmgewehre 1 month ago 6
@Sturmgewehre Cool, thanks.
1crimm 1 month ago
"Pushing up with that, I guess, lever..."
SamInBuda 1 month ago
first
liswiwiikn 1 month ago